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"Make : HONDA Model : ODYSSEY Year : 2003
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 04V176000 Recall Date : APR 13, 2004
Component: POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 600000
Summary:
ON SOME MINI VANS AND SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES, CERTAIN OPERATING CONDITIONS CAN RESULT IN HEAT BUILD-UP BETWEEN THE COUNTERSHAFT AND SECONDARY SHAFT SECOND GEARS IN THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, EVENTUALLY LEADING TO GEAR TOOTH CHIPPING OR GEAR BREAKAGE.
Consequence:
GEAR FAILURE COULD RESULT IN TRANSMISSION LOCKUP, WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
Remedy:
ON VEHICLES WITH 15,000 MILES OR LESS, THE DEALER WILL UPDATE THE TRANSMISSION WITH A SIMPLE REVISION TO THE OIL COOLER RETURN LINE TO INCREASE LUBRICATION TO THE SECOND GEAR. ON VEHICLES WITH MORE THAN 15,000 MILES, THE DEALER WILL INSPECT THE TRANSMISSION TO IDENTIFY GEARS THAT HAVE ALREADY EXPERIENCED DISCOLORATION DUE TO OVERHEATING. IF DISCOLORATION EXISTS, THE TRANSMISSION WILL BE REPLACED IF DISCOLORATION IS NOT PRESENT, THE DEALER WILL PERFORM THE REVISION TO THE OIL COOLER RETURN LINE. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN ON MAY 12, 2004. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT HONDA AT 1-800-999-1009 OR ACURA AT 1-800-382-2238."
And just a few days ago, Honda announced another recall. This one is for 2000-2004 Acura CL and TL cars.
well its up there as one of the difficult ones to change because the put a TON of glue on the bottom and the guy had problems getting the glue cut off so the windshield would come out. the trim was pretty straight forward but it took longer then normal and its pretty big ... install was easy .. just the removal was a pain... got the PPG glass replacement which has besides the dots over the center area, a tint band all across the top (a bonus) - easier on the eyes from the sun
there was talk of an improved amp being released ... anyone get their amp replaced (this is on the optional higher end stereo DVD system)
Bobbie
Under the hood, on the left front side, just to the right of the horn is a place for (something). It connects to a vacuum hose and a 2-wire electrical connection.
I looked at a 2005 Touring, and saw the washer fluid pump in that location, but it doesn't *exactly* match the layout of my '04.
Can someone take a quick peek under their hood and tell me what the heck goes in that spot? It's something auxillary (like probably the washer fluid pump or something), but it annoys me to not be able to find out, and the local Chrysler parts guy wasn't able to figure it out "for sure", either.
Thanks!
Todd
Thanks, b25nut, and this would be, technically, part of the emissions, but since the connectors *were* plugged into something, I think I'm supposed to have it.
Todd
I had to stop by the dealership on an unrelated matter and the service manager thought it nothing more than "weird". He even went out and measured another car on the lot and found it was almost about 1/2 inch from one side to the other.
The car still drives beautifully, but this certainly can't be right. Anyone else had this problem or have any thoughts toward a solution?
I have read a couple of posts both here and elsewhere that indicate that others have had this problem. However, I don't see any information regarding the resolution of the issue. Has anyone with this problem had it properly diagnosed and repaired? If so, what was the cause?
Around town looks like 17-18 MPG.
But.. I just noticed rust in some aspect of the inner wheels. I have it headed in for service to remove a bumber mark and the service guy said all were like that. Anyone else have this issue?
We too have rust in the inner wheels. I noticed it prior to purchase. (ours was an executive car)
We were told that they are all like that. It doesn't really look good though.
I haven't addressed the issue yet I've been taking care of the other problems! Our memory seats do not operate properly even after changing out the memory unit, and we have a thumping noise when we stop or turn. In order to fix that, they have to replace a part which requires taking out the transmission!
Have you ever looked at many other cars' wheels? A lot of cars of various makes have this.
this is a more traditional way to estimate MPG. do this a few times to determine the accuracy of the computer estimate. that estimate accuracy will probably change depending on the type of driving city vs. highway.
The headlamp on the passenger side of my Pac went out a couple of weeks ago. I purchased a replacement lamp, and am trying to fix it.
The owner's manual gives the instruction to remove the screws holding the light assembly in place, and to slide the headlight assembly out. Darned if we can get the thing out.
The screws come out okay, which loosens the assembly, but it refuses to slide forward so we can access the bulbs.
Has anyone attempted/completed this maintenance item yet? Can you tell me if there's a trick to getting it out? I hate to have to pay the dealer to do something I should be able to do on my own.
Thanks!!
which bulb went out the high or the low beam? also make sure you do NOT touch the new bulb or it will burn out quickly. use a clean tissue to hold the base and try not to touch the bulb even with the tissue if possible
Anyway, it was scheduled for a service this morning so I spoke to the service writer who told me to just bring the bulb in that I'd bought and they'd install it for $10 or $15 bucks. I hadn't yet seen your reply, clueless, or I'd probably have given it another shot.
If I had, though, I'd have been disappointed yet again. It seems that the headlamp replacement bulb that I bought was the wrong one (strange, since I bought the type that the owner's manual told me to)...service guy said I'd gotten the high beam lamp and not the regular headlight. He showed me the correct bulb. Since it was already there, I went OK'd the part to get it fixed. I was pleasantly surprised when the service writer told me they wouldn't charge me for the bulb, and would keep the fee for fixing it at the $15 he'd told me before (the bulb was $25).
Anyway...to get back to your explanation. Is it really ok to just push it a little from behind? It seems difficult to even get your hand behind there. As for the tabs, I did see a couple of metal tabs or clips on the outer edge of the assembly (looked like they held the clear plastic covering)...are there other tabs further inside that I'm to be concerned with?
Thanks so much for your help. The thought of having to get lamps replaced by the mechanic is just ridiculous to me, so I want to make sure I get this one down.
Ours goes dim sometimes and other times
goes completely out......... This among
all the other problems that people are having..
This Pacifica was in the Dealers SHOP for 16
straight days because they couldn`t figure
out why the battery went dead and wouldn`t
start the car........... Finnally they changed
the dashboard cluster guages.... Car is going
into the SHOP tomorrow 8-23-04 for LED prob.
noise-passenger side front, sounds like a
broken shock-absorber or something, right-
brake light is out, car pulls to left going
down the highway-will change lanes in less
than 1/4 mile.......... It`s done this since
the first trip we took... Guess what, the DEALER
says they can`t make it do this... Also the
sagging rubber over the doors, the noise shift-
ing gears, and the locks don`t lock and unlock
the way they should. This trip to the DEALER
will make it 5 times for a total of `23` DAYS
and COUNTING, which in the state of Iowa is
within the LEMON - LAWS.........
We buoght this car last October... We have
16,600 miles on it... This is My 7th or 8th NEW Car..
I`m 62 years young, and have never had so MANY problems
with a car as this PACIFICA.................
LATERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
in relation to Jeffew...........
to call tomorrow 8-24-04 to Set up a Meeting
with the District Rep.
When this metting happens, the Rep. will get
an EAR-FULL about the LEMOM-LAWS.........
Now let My ask You......... Doesn`t your state
have LEMOM-LAWS.???
I`ll be back with Info. as this progresses...
LATERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Best advice is not to yell and scream, but to put it in their hands: "What can you do to keep me a satisfied customer?" If not this Pacifica, DC wants you in one that makes you happy, so that you buy their products again later.
kcram
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Well said.
However, there are none so deaf as those who REFUSE to listen.
The store where I bought it did say the next generation of Nextel phones will probably have Bluetooth, but until then I really wanted this to work.
Any idea of adapters out there that do work?
I have an i730
Linda
This seems like a trivial item to add to an already decked out car. My last cars, Volvo 740, Nissan Maxima, Jeep Cherokee, Chevy minivan, ALL HAVE HAD THIS FEATURE. I cannot believe they would cheapen out on this.
I've already left the lights on once for 4 hours in the garage. The garage door opener light was on, the kids were being loud, so I didn't hear the little ding ding trying to tell me my lights were on. Only several hours later when I went to get something out of the car did I see them on.
The dealership said they are only available on the 2005 AWD package if you purchase xenon head lamps. Otherwise you are SOL. They will not install them on. They are currently checking to see if they know of a service who can add for a price.
So, I'm now left with; paying someone from an outside company to install some, or buying myself a new set of jumper cables and looking for a good samariton who won't "mug me" if leave them on by accident some dark evening in what will mostlikely be in a dark parking lot.
WAKE UP CHRYSLER!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT A STUPID, STUPID, STUPID SAFETY ITEM TO LEAVE OFF!!!!!!!!!!
I can't understand the logic behind Chrysler's packaging for 2005 Pacifica - some options are only available if one chooses AWD, like auto-dimming rearview mirror, memory for seats/pedals/mirrors... Where I live, in South Florida, most dealers stock up on FWD Pacificas, so I could not get these options that I really like.
When you Pair the phone, UCONNECT ask for confirmation code to pair the phone. the phone must prompt you for the code that you reply back.
I see that there are plenty of happy and unhappy people that have Pacificas.
Well I have some info that may prove helpfull for some:
The Audio System: Poor quality from both the permium and reg system is covered by a TSB that either replaces the head unit and/ or the amp too. It is more noticable on copied CDs.
Fuel Gauge Erratic: There is a reflash for the Fuel sender unit avaiable on a TSB.
TPM: TSB to Reflash the module
Clunk on an incline: A design issue, there is a spec that DCX has for disengagment on an incline, the Pac isnt there.
Leads left/ right: A TSB is there to adjust camber.
I have had 2 pacificas in the past 13 months, I put 30K on one AWD in 10 months and I 7K on a FWD since July. The car is great, yes it has issues like all cars, thats no excuse, just a fact.My kids love the DVD and it is very comftable. Both cars are loaded with no issues.
The best advice I can give any of you is when you go to the dealer with an issue, ask if there is a TSB out for that issue, more than likely there is, ie the audio crackle, TPM issues and so on. They have to fix it if there is a TSB out there. TSB' s are there because there are known issues and these cut down on root cause time at the dealer.
I'm glad you were able to get just the lamp replaced - I haven't had to do that yet, and have been worried I'd have to replace the whole module!
Todd
We have had 3 Chrysler products in the last 10 years.
One Minivan lemon-lawed free replacement after
3 transmissions in 34,000 miles.
second (1996) w/197,000 miles.
third (2003) ok.
You should not buy one of these behemoth cars from Chrysler (minivan, pacifica, durango, etc.) unless you
1) get the extended 100,000 7 year b-b warranty.
(make it condition of sale and dont pay more than
700-900 for it. Just build it into price because it is a must have.)
2) have a third car (if married), 2nd if single
for all the TSBs and repairs you will need.
But if you have buy the 100,000 warranty and have another get-around car, the vehicles have proved great value to us, considering the prices you can get them at at end of month or end of year, sometimes 10,000 or more off sticker. that makes up for a lot.
if you get the warranty, live near the dealer (one with a good repair record or best of all, the regional assigned repair shop) and just get used to running the car in and out for warranty fixes, you will get great practicality, performance, and value (price).
if you're used to an acura or honda or toyota
and must have reliability every day, think twice.
and must have reliability every day, think twice.<<<
Yeah, my 2002 Acura TL-S is on its 4th transmission at 45K miles (the first one blew at 6,100 miles when entering a busy highway). When the tranny #3 had to be replaced, by car was in the shop for 3 weeks.
- 1988 Chrysler Lebaron Convertible
- 1994 Dodge Ram 1500 Pickup
- 1997 Dodge Intrepid Sedan
- 2004 Chrysler Pacifica SUV
And have had very few problems, on average. I have 150K+ miles on the truck, 160K+ miles on the convertible, and 120K+ miles on the Intrepid. I have experienced no more problems on them than my prior vehicles:
- 1994 Ford Ranger
- 1991 Chevy Cavalier
- 1986 Buick Regal
- 1984 Chevy Chevette
- 1966 Chevy C10 Pickup
Of all of the cars & trucks I've owned, the Dodge pickup and Intrepid have been the most reliable (and have the most mileage, too).
I almost bought a Honda Pilot instead of the Pacifica, but got a better deal on the Pac (plus the safety rating).
Todd