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By the way, when trying to help I asked you some questions about that rattle from the engine (post #904). You didn't answer. That should be a cause for concern.
About the washer fluid I didn't know it beeps at you all the time !!! That's funny ! I'm sure it would drive me crazy too.
Any insight as to what this re-programming does would be appreciated.
---Paul in Southern NJ
Both times upon driving away and trying out the seat it did not work. Anyone have any suggestions? I'm getting tired of dragging my car back and forth to the dealer. I think they need to start doing some trouble-shooting instead of just replacing this module.
Has anyone else had this problem and their dealer was able to fix it?
This morning, I awoke to sub-freezing temps in NJ. While driving this morning to the store, everything was fine. I shopped about an hour, then headed back home. About 1 mile into the drive, tire warning came on indicating low pressure in 3 tires. Kind of surprising, since I visually look at the tires every time I drive and they all looked fine to me.
Stopped at a second store, about 30 minutes. Began driving again and now warning is telling me only 1 tire is low.
Last stop, about 45 minutes. Now, 2 tires low.
Temps in the area today are running about 10-15 degrees, wind chills in the single digits.
Can this possibly be a false reading because of the cold?
It could be that pre the cold temps you were running close to the warning range (25 psi in my Infiniti) The cold could have lowered the the pressure to below the threshold.
It did not do this immediately when you started the car because it takes a while 5-6 minutes for the computer to get the readings from the wheels initially. Your Subsequent stop and go let some wheels warm up and some cool off that why you are getting strange readings.
In the winter you should up your pressure maybe 3-5 psi higher than what is normally used to account for the cold weather.
I imagine how much $$ this would be when out of warranty. That's why I ordered FWD.
Actually this doesn't sound too appealing, overall reliability wise ...
I agree that the Pacifica concept is the best on the market for most families. The problem is that Chrysler lacks the japanese determination (and desire ?) to build a rock solid product, reliability wise. All the Pacifica reports we have are for cars less than 2 years old. They should have either no problems at all, or just one or two problems (for instance bad gear boxes at Hondas, bad engines at Toyotas). Error is human, but not anywhere. Even a great company can make mistakes, but the rest of the new car should be perfect. If there are problems anywhere you are not talking about human error, but about lack of interest. Probably those workers are more interested in union fights and layoffs, than in car quality.
Anyway I am almost decided to "chicken out". My $500 deposit could be lost because the Cyrville Chrysler dealership in Ottawa, Canada refuses to refund it. I will probably go to the small claims court (because the contract was signed by me but not by them, so I don't know if it has legal value), but even if I won't see the $500 ever again, my health won't suffer.
I am about 40 yrs old and I began to feel the value of time. I don't want to waste it because of a damn stupid car. I am looking for a car who behaves like a refrigerator. I want to forget it exists. I don't need any features at all. I just plug it and forget about it. In this Internet era, when people are really busy and stressed, the manufacturer who doesn't understand this is plain stupid.
Why give up your NAV? get the NAV and get your kids a portable DVD player. For the outrageous prices of installed DVD players you can get 6 or 7 portable DVDs and every passenger could have their own! a good portable can be had for less than $200.
Enjoy the Pilot.
How long have you had your Pacificia?
We are looking at a FWD loaded 05. Really like the ride. The parking lot at the dealership was a mess because we had 21 inches of snow along with freezing rain last week.
Drove the Jeep Liberty and the Buick Rendezvous.
Didn't think the ride was as nice.
How do you like pulling in and out of parking spaces? We have a minivan right now and that is one of issues - difficult to do.
Despite the size the Pacifica is very maneuverable in parking lots, no problem at all in those tight underground city garages or in crowded mall parking lots. Just point it and it goes where you want, not like our Ford Taurus that you have to drive like it's an ocean liner.
Negative -
The Pacifica is WIDE and the doors are THICK and the interior trim (armrest, etc) protrudes WAY into the space you need to get out of the car in a tight parking spot. There have been times I had to repark to get out of the car because I was too close the car next to me. Granted, I am more than a bit fat but I think the PAC is worse than others in this respect. A sliding door and walk-through to the back like a minivan would solve this issue but then you would be in a Town & Country, not a Pacifica. Worst comes to worst I figure if I get really parked in I can crawl in through the hatch like in that Ford Focus commercial a few years back.
I am very grateful for this site. The discussions helped us with many of the problems that our car experienced. When our Chrysler service department tried to tell us that the problem with the stereo was due to the poor quality of our tapes and CDs, we were able to tell them that there was a TSB out for the stereo, thanks to a thread here.
So good bye and happy driving to all of you!
I will be the first to say the PAC is sexier and more stylish than the Pilot - no question. On the other hand no matter how stylish it is, no one will see you in it if it is always in the shop!
People saying they have 12,000 trouble free miles on any car does not impress me at all. I mean if you drop $30K on a car you should at least expect it to run that long, right? I am more interested to see where we are at with 30 to 50K miles.
rsharp: You need to go post in the Pilot discussions. Last time I read through there were enough problems in the Pilot to keep you busy over there instead of trolling the Pacifica discussion. For a car that was built off the Odyssey design (right?) it should have had NO flaws and drive perfectly.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I feel the same way about the Pac, although it's not as much fun to drive as the Passat. I bought the Pac for design, safety and the utilitarian packaging, not to mention the sexy design. And by the way, preference for sexy design is not unique to America, it's even more important in Europe.
Oh, and I also have a sexy refrigerator.
My last fridge was real dependable. It had the GM mark of excellence on it: a Frigidaire from 1975. My wife made us trade it. She didn't like the Bicentennial Red any more.
I don't believe I want my car built with the same philosophy as refrigerators.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Free and open discussion is the idea of a forum right?
I have quite a bit of first hand, behind the wheel time in a PAC, nearly purchased one, and purchased one of the PACs nearest competitors instead. I think I at least have the right to post a comment or question, ok?
The Grand Cherokee, I bet , has a flatter roof towards the rear of the vehicle, allowing air to "pass over " the vehicle more quietly and smoothly at speed.....
My wife has a Lexus es 300 with a sunroof and the turbulence is not bad, it has a very flat roof and a small, built in air deflector that pops up when the roof is open..........
My 2004 PAC AWD will lose power, start afterburning (engine knock), and the mileage will drop (5 mpg drop from ~18 to ~13) once it has been highway running and is up to operating temp.
Loss of power causes you to have to "step down" on the gas pedal to keep up speed (you notice you feel like your flooring it almost), and often it has to down shift for slight hills or for passing (even with no load).
This is accompanied by engine knock, presumably because it is running too lean since I am having to step into the pedal so much. Engine knock (or afterburning) sounds like old carb problem of rich mixture or late firing/retarded timing.
Of course with all this fuel dumping into the engine the mileage drops down to 12 or 13 mpg from my usual 18-20 on the highway.
Been to dealer 3 times, of course they can't re-create the problem (they need to drive it for week including longer highway trips!), there are no codes stored in the computer, there is no TSB on this type of problem, and I have had all the recalls done, including the power module reprogramming.
Other than a blown (and replaced) EVIC unit, we have had very little problems: Rear hatch power lift (replaced), front bearing/wheel clunk (recall fixed), DVD-remote-handphones don't always communicate (not fixed yet).
Anyone have a thought for loss or power / engine knock - gas sucking PAC problems. My dealer "doesn't know what I can do for you"...
Thanks
After owning many mini-vans, it was hard to convince her to consider anything else.......until she drove the Pacifica. Now I expect the same resistance if we consider replacing the Pac with anything other than another Pac. We are very satisfied owners.
Anyone experiencing similar problem???