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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    I don't know exactly what the dealer cost for a GMPP on this model is right now, but remember that the selling prices of manufacturers' extended warranties are negotiable in most states. Furthermore, you don't have to purchase your extended warranty from the dealership that you plan on having your vehicle serviced at. You are free to do so from any GM dealer. If you are in the market for an extended warranty on your truck, you should e-mail or call several dealers for price quotes.

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  • maxx4memaxx4me Member Posts: 1,340
    here you go jegb11. It doesn't get any cheaper than this; I've done all the homework. Give 'em a call.
    http://www.capperautocenter.com/
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Good call on the link, maxx4me. I remember hearing that that particular dealer has very reasonable prices on General Motors extended warranties.

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  • maxx4memaxx4me Member Posts: 1,340
    thanks car_man. I do hate to see people waste money. I hope it works for you jegb11. The people out at Capper are wonderful to work with. You also have up to 12 months and 12,000 miles to buy a "new car" warranty. I plan on waiting for the last month; that way, I can more accurately calculate what my projected mileage per year will be, and buy the right warranty for my driving needs.
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    Am INCREDIBLY thankful for the ESC we bought for our 99 Dodge. Yeah, its a pain, being a Ford ESC on a Dodge (bought used at the Ford dealer) but so far its paid for $1500 in repairs including the oil pump that went on Monday. There are a few other things wrong with the truck that will be fixed in the next week (before we get the thing back). Paid $2200 for the ESC and still have 14k miles left on it.
  • minerminer Member Posts: 2
    My warranty on my 2000 Lexus ES 300 is about to expire. There a 40 K miles on the car. The Lexus dealer suggested I purchase an extended warranty from them. Is it worth it? What is the best way to extend a warranty. I have never done this before.
  • searchingsearching Member Posts: 1
    We just purchased a 2002 Bonneville SLE with 27,000 miles. We Love the car and researched and shopped hard for it. I Spent two days negotiating price and asked repeatedly about the extended warranty I thought I should purchase. I decided on the 4 year 32,000 mile for about $1,600.00. They assured me that the Factory warranty would be up July 2005. And the purchased extended warranty would bring me through 2009 or the mileage, what ever came first etc.
    I was going for a 5 year loan and I felt that I wanted it covered for as long as I was making payments. I asked repeatedly if we were understanding each other about what I was getting over a half a dozen times. Factory warranty up until 36,000 and then the extended warranty brings us up to.... etc. I purposely asked this to be confirmed, So I knew what we were getting.

    When it came to the signing, I was told that the remaining factory warranty is null and void and
    the extended warranty kicks in. There was so much double talk and when I challenged him, He said the rules changed, ""it use to be that way." I asked why is this car no longer certified? "They would have to charge me $100 he said and you do not need it.
    I had done all the research, negotiating, and haggling and then my Husband came in signed the contract.
    I just felt just totally defeated and deceived.
    I now see that I shoul have researched Extended Warranties!!!!
     
    Do they have a right to not extend the Factory Warranty? I only had verbal confirmation repeatedly for two days.
    We love the car, but they were so deceptive.
    Do We have a chance to have them honor the remaining Factory Warranty?
    We are talking about nearly a year of coverage actually.
    Did we just get taken? Forget it, enjoy the Car?
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi miner. There's no right or wrong answer on whether one should purchase an extended warranty or not. Vehicles like Toyotas and Hondas, and their luxury counterparts Lexus and Acura, tend to be very reliable, making it less likely that you will make your money back if you purchase an extended warranty for one. Obviously there is no guarantee that nothing will ever go wrong with your car though. It all depends upon how risk averse you are. If you do end up purchasing an extended warranty, make sure that you purchase an official manufacturer-backed plan. Your vehicle's manufacturer is much more likely to step up to the plate and cover your repairs than some random company that does not have a vested interest in keeping you as a happy and loyal customer. Furthermore, automakers are much more financially stable than many independent warranty providers. I have seen several independent warranty companies go bankrupt over the years, leaving their policy holders with worthless warranties. When shopping for a manufacturer-backed extended warranty, keep in mind that in most states the prices of these policies are negotiable. Furthermore, you do not have to purchase your policy from the dealer that you purchased your vehicle from or the one that you plan on having your service performed at. Shop around with several dealers for an extended warranty, either via e-mail or phone, find the one that has the cheapest price and give your local dealer an opportunity to match it. All things being equal it never hurts to purchase from the dealer that you will use for warranty work.

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  • maxx4memaxx4me Member Posts: 1,340
    The car only has 27k on it?? Then it is still covered under the GM 3/36 factory warranty.
    Now, go to http://www.capperautocenter.com/ and give them a call. You'll save a bundle of money on your GMPP (General Motors Protection Plan) extended warranty. Forget the dealer!
  • boomer1bboomer1b Member Posts: 316
    Most aftermarket warranties are 2nd in line to pay IF your vehicle is still under tne GM new car mfr. 3/36 warranty.

    MOST ex-warranties are all different also.
    Some start on the day and mileage when you purchase, some the day your factory warranty expires, and again some start from DAY 1 when the vehicle was purchased new !

    You must read the contract closely for start, end, mileage, whats covered, whats NOT etc.

    Don't rely on any verbal stuff you may be told.
    Anybody can be mistaken, dishonest etc.

    Be afraid, very afraid when someone wants you to part with YOUR money !

    Take it from ME ! Buy only a mfr. backed ex-warranty !
    I got burned once ! They cost more....BUT !
  • maxx4memaxx4me Member Posts: 1,340
    boomer is right. Stick with the manufacturer's warranty.....but don't buy from just any dealer when there are deals to be had. Capper sells only GM Protection Plans.
  • minerminer Member Posts: 2
    Thanks for the very helpful advice. Much appreciated.
  • johnbjohnb Member Posts: 32
    Okay, quick question.

    I bought a 2004 Saturn VUE back in April 2004. It has 3yr/36k manufacturer's warranty (I think). We have about 4k miles on it now.

    When its gets around 30k (in about two years), I'll decide if I want to trade up to a minivan or keep it for a while longer.

    That said, I looked at capperauto and didn't see a link for Saturn under the GM plans they offer.

    Does Saturn have it's own Manufacturer-backed warranty plan?

    Also, am I going to pay more for the ex-warranty by waiting two years before getting the extended warranty (but making sure I get it before my original 3/36 warranty expires)?

    Thanks.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    In some cases I've seen that prices went up after 12 months or 12k miles. Not sure if that's for GMPP, though.

    -juice
  • maxx4memaxx4me Member Posts: 1,340
    capper is good up to the 3/36 mark. I'm assuming GMPP covers Saturn. I'm also assuming that capper ran out of room to cover all of GM's logos. Give them a call. They are great folks.
  • brian_kbrian_k Member Posts: 4
    I am in the market for a used Audi A6 4.2 or BMW 540. I have a friend with a dealer's license who could facilitate the purchase of a car coming off lease from the finance arms of the above manufacturers at one of the dealer-only wholesale auto auctions. I would lose the benfits of buying a certified car from a dealer (loaner car during service, roadside assistance) and would have to try to purchase an extended warranty from the manufacturer. Does anyone know that value of these extended warranties? Calls to Audi USA and BMW USA directed me to the dealer for info and to purchase an extended warranty. Several local dealers didn't want to even take time to help me if I wans't buying a car from them. Any suggestions on what these warranties cost? If I can save $4000-$5000 off a $40K car, I think it would be worthwhile to buy from the auction. Your thoughts?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I bet if you bought the car first, then went warranty shopping, you'd have more luck.

    There is more profit margin on the warranty than on some cars.

    Try shopping via e-mails to dealers.

    -juice
  • ljsssljsss Member Posts: 1
    I have read this entire thread and I realize that the general concensus is to not buy an extended warranty, and if you do buy an extended warranty - then only buy from the manufacturer. Having said that, the GMPP is pretty expensive. I have a 2002 Tahoe with 34K miles on it. Sam's club offers an extended warranty backed by Assurant. I bring this up because usually Sam's Club/Wal-Mart does pretty good due-diligence before they offer something like this. Anyway, this is what they are offering me:

    Titanium plan, exclusionary coverage.
    60 months/100,000 miles with $0 deductible is $1,435.

    That is a good bit cheaper than the gmpp. I feel that one major repair within the next 65K miles would pay for that. Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    but Sam's Club and Wal-Mart don't do warranty repairs on your truck, so you have to assume there won't be miles worth of hassle when you take this policy in for work at a GM dealer - if they're set up for direct billing, and it's very likely they're not, you get to pay the bill up front and hope like heck you get your money back.

    The best bet is to negotiate on a real GMPP contract from a dealer.

    When I was in F&I, I sold contracts all day to our credit union and cash buyers for $100 over cost - I'd take out my cost book, go over the plan, help them choose the right one for their mileage and driving requirements, and git 'er done...
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,241
    I don't think anyone is saying you should not buy an extended warranty - for some people it is a great option, because having peace of mind down the road is worth much more than the initial cost of the extended warranty. The decision is totally dependent on what's important to you and how long you intend to keep your vehicle.

    But, you need to read any contract very carefully and note all of the exclusions and requirements. Some can be worded very nebulously, so that problems due to "wear-and-tear," or "owner negligence," which are excluded on every policy, can be attributed to most anything that goes wrong.

    As driftracer rightly pointed out, many non-manufacturer backed warranties may require you to pay first, then submit for reimbursement. Others claim that their policies are accepted directly by service centers, but you would have to check on which shops in your area actually accept that warranty, and decide whether that's where you want your vehicle repaired.

    Most folks on this board would recommend against the third-party just for those reasons - plus, if the backing company folds, you can be out the money AND the coverage (see Warranty Gold thread). Only you can decide what risks and cost you're willing to incur, but no matter which route you choose, I wouldn't buy before a careful review.

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  • slrommelslrommel Member Posts: 4
    My wife and I just purchased a 2004 Accord EX with leather. We are considering purchasing an extended warranty ("Honda Care") through the dealership. We were offered a 7 year/ 100 K mile warranty for $1050 plus tax. The deductible is $50, and if we were to never use the warranty within the warranty period, we would receive the $1050 back (minus the sales tax).

    Has anyone had experience with a Honda Care extended warranty? If so, how does this price compare to what you were offered? Any advice would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
  • maxx4memaxx4me Member Posts: 1,340
    wow, from a GM owner's perspective, that's an amazing price for a warranty; I'd take it (after I negotiated a better price at some competing dealers in your area of course)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Solid price. I'm not sure if it's that Hondas cost less to fix, break less often, or just that the market creates less supply for that warranty, but go for it.

    One thing is Honda doesn't include roadside assistance with their new cars (last time I checked), so that warranty gives you 7 years of roadside assistance, which definitely adds value.

    -juice
  • postcepostce Member Posts: 4
    What state are you in? We were offered a 7 yr./75,000 mile warranty for around $1250 for the Honda Odyssey but no guarantee for money back. Wondering if we are missing out?
  • postcepostce Member Posts: 4
    Can you negotiate the price of a warranty with the dealer? We purchased the vehicle already.
  • madcowzmadcowz Member Posts: 7
    I've been shopping around for warranties, and recently got a call from Continental Warranty:

    http://www.continentalwarranty.net

    WOW, talk about HIGH pressure sales, I've never felt SO pressured in my ENTIRE LIFE talking to a salesman. The guy kept on saying if I wait and call back to give a decision, I would not be able to get any of the additional offers, or the low rate quoted with the extra month/1,000 miles. This is stated on their homepage, which might I mention is QUITE meager in it's content:

    "Incentives such as: Roadside Assistance, Trip Interruption, Car Rental Allowance, Waiver of Vehicle Inspection Fee and 0% financing are only available on the initial contact."

    In any case, after spending about 40 minutes on the phone with him mulling over it and asking a million questions, I FINALLY caved in. I'm usually good at saying NO to high pressure sales, but the offer was too good, and I never seen a rate this low. Basically I got 25 months/25,000 mile coverage for a 96 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro with 99,600 miles for $1698.

    I believe 1SourceAutoWarranty was over $3,000 for similar coverage, and the lowest I could find elsewhere was at warrantywarehouse for about $1,880 24months/24,000 miles.

    I know what I got sounds too good to be true, and it probably is, but I was too in the moment, pressured into making a decision right then and there, and the reassurance that I can cancel for a full refund within the first 30 days is what sealed the deal.

    But even with that reassurance I'm still concerned. First of all, he would not send me the contract first without me giving the deposit (which is supposed to be fully refundable 1st 30 days), and 2nd of all, I could not find ANY info on this company or any reliable feedback from actual customers anywhere on the internet. I'm still confused whether they are backed by a reputable reinsurer's company or by a retention risk group which of course no one would want.

    Plus, who in their right mind would offer an extended warrantee on any car without requiring any inspection on their end? Currently my car has no problems and I didn't lie, but it just makes no sense to me.

    Should I be concerned? Anyone have any info on this company or personal experience?
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    not to make matters worse, but to answer your question...

    "who in their right mind would offer an extended warrantee on any car without requiring any inspection on their end?"

    Someone who had no real intention of paying claims.

    I'd be cancelling immediately, and not nearly as prone to a telephone sales pitch next time.
  • chrisgivenschrisgivens Member Posts: 14
    All those companies you mentioned are backed by Risk Retention Groups. Be very careful!
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,241
    "First of all, he would not send me the contract first without me giving the deposit (which is supposed to be fully refundable 1st 30 days), and 2nd of all, I could not find ANY info on this company or any reliable feedback from actual customers anywhere on the internet."

    Two clues that you should cancel as fast as you can. Never, I repeat never sign any contract without being allowed time to fully read it. Second, you should always check with reliable sources before purchasing anything over the phone or Internet. It costs virtually nothing to run a small operation by phone or by Internet, therefore making those media susceptible to use by scam artists.

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  • vinsonavinsona Member Posts: 13
    All,

    We got a great deal on a 04 Sienna LE and wanted to see what type of Extended Warranty deals people are getting.

    I am not sure if we are really interested in the Extended Warranty (depends on the price), I need some numbers for reference if the "pitch" is thrown.

    I am sure that they will hit me with the high numbers because I got the mini-van for about $200 over invoice.

    I think something in the 7/75 or 7/100 range would fit our needs

    Thanks in advance!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi postce. In most states, the prices of extended warranties are indeed negotiable. Furthermore, you do not necessarily have to purchase the extended warranty for your car or truck from the dealer that you bought it at or the one that you plan on having your service performed at. Consumers are free to purchase manufacturer-backed extended warranties from any dealership that sells they type of vehicle that you have. If you are interested in getting an extended warranty for your new ride, it is in your best interest to shop around with several dealers, either via e-mail, telephone, or in person. Once you have gotten several price quotes, give the dealer that you plan on having your repairs done at the option to match the lowest one. While you don't have to purchase your extended warranty from the dealer that you are having your repairs done at, it never hurts to do so.

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  • madcowzmadcowz Member Posts: 7
    Just received the contract in the mail today, here are some key sections. I already don't like the terms, however, I don't know if this stuff is standard for most extended warranties. Perhaps someone could help me evaluate it?:

    (this is just select parts of the contract)

    Definitions:
    * Breakdown - The failure of any COVERED PART to perform the function for which it was intended, due to a mechanical or electrical defect. Breakdown does not include the gradual reduction in operating performance where a failure has not occurred.

    * hmmm, the guy on the phone told me wear and tear is covered....

    ** Emergency Roadside Assistance Coverage:
    Coverage Provided by Emergency Response Marketing. Max Benefit of $100 per incident applies.

    *** Mechanical Coverage
    Our Obligations:
    During the mechnical coverage term of this contract, we will pay on your behalf or reimburse You for pre-authorized expenses incurred for the repair or replacement of a COVERED PART which experiences a BREAKDOWN*. We will make payment or reimbursement by check, Mastercard of Visa. Such expense(s) are not to exceed the manufacturer's suggested retail price for a part and the average costs for similar repairs, or as nationally published. Labor rate times shall be determined using standard Alldata, Chilton or Mitchell labor rate time guides. Replacement may be made with a part which is of a like, kind and quality comparable with the original specifications and wear tolerances of Your Vehicle.

    COVERED PARTS:
    Engine - blocks, cases, housings, rotor housings, cylinder heads and all internal lubricated parts; turbocharger assemblies; supercharger assemblies; water pump

    Transmission and Transfer Case - cases, housings and all internal lubricated parts; torque converter; front pump

    Front and Rear Wheel Drive - differential, final drive, drive axles, transaxle assembly and all internal lubricated parts; axle bearings; constant velocity joints.

    Air Conditioning - Compressor

    Brakes - Master Cylinder; vacuum assist booster; disc brake caliper; wheel cylinders; compensation valve; brake hydraulic lines and fittings; wheel speed sensors, pressure modulator valve, isolation dump valve and accumulator.

    Cooling System - Cooling fan motor; thermostat and heater control valve.

    Electrical - alternator; starter motor; back up light switch; window switches; blower motor, front wiper motors.

    Fuel System - Fuel pumps; fuel distributor; fuel injectors; metal lines; fuel pressure regulator; fuel tank and sending unit; diesel accessory vacuum pump.

    Steering - steering gear, steering rack and power steering pump assemblies and all internal lubricated parts; intermediate shaft; main shaft; seals and gaskets.

    Limits of Liability:
    The total of all benefits paid of payable under this Contract shall not exceed the actual cash value of the Vehicle on the Contract Effective Date. This determination will be made using the N.A.D.A. Official Used Car Guide for an average condition vehicle at the Contract Effective Date. The total benefits payable for any single repair or replacement shall not exceed the actual cash value of the Vehicle on the Breakdown Date. This determination will be made using the N.A.D.A Official Used Car Guide for an average condition vehicle at the Breakdown Date.

    The liability of anyone performing under this Contract for incidental and consequential damages arising from performance or failure to perform under this Contract or breach of any implied warranties, including the warranty of merchantability, arising by operation of law by virtue of performance under this Contract, is expressly excluded. Such incidental and consequential damages include, but are not limited to, property damage, loss of use of the Vehicle, loss of time, inconvenience and commercial loss.

    **** Events which are NOT covered: (list is long, i'll include the one's worth noting)

    - Any repair(s) and/or replacement(s) not authorized by Us prior to the commencement of any repair(s) and/or replacements

    - Consumable items and scheduled maintenance, adjustments and wear items, including but not limited to: batteries, belts; brake friction materials and parts; brake drums and rotors; hoses other than steering and air conditioning hoses; light bulbs; manual transmission clutch disc and lining, throw out bearing and pressure plate; clutch master and slave cylinders; spark plugs and ignition wires; distributor cap and rotor; tires; wheel balancing; and wiper blades. Filter, lubricants, coolants and refrigerants unless replacement is required in connection with a Breakdown

    - A breakdown caused by negligence, misuse, improper servicing, or failure by You to perform manufacturer required or recommended maintenance services.

    - A breakdown caused by the lack of proper and neessary amounts of coolants or lubricants or caused by sludge buildup, contaminant(s), or foreign object(s)

    - Sales or other taxes applicable to replacement or repair of Covered Parts

    - Breakdown caused by accident, civil commotion or riot, collision or upset, glass breakage, earthquake, explosion, falling objects, fire or smoke, flood, fluid contamination, freezing, fuel contamination, hail, lightening, malicious mischief, oil contamination, rust or corrosion, theft or larceny, vandalism, flood, water, water contamination, windstorm and other external forces or events

    - Turbocharger, Supercharger, Diesel, Four Wheel Drive, All Wheel Drive or All-Wheel Steering components, parts or related breakdowns unless the corresponding surcharge item is listed on teh Declaration Sheet.

    - A breakdown caused by a failure of a non-covered part.

    - Damage caused by Your failure to take or cause to be taken, reasonable precautions to prevent further damage when an apparent problem exists

    - Vehicles with modifications or alterations to the powertrain, suspension (including tire or wheel sizes or offsets) or the exhaust system not approved by the Vehicle manufacturer.

    ***** Your Responsibilities:
    You must follow the procedures below in order for you to receive the coverage benefits provided by this Contract. If you do not follow these procedures and such failure causes a Breakdown, further damage or unnecessary repairs, or prevents us from obtaining the necessary information as indicated below, coverage will be denied or reduced.

    - You must have your vehicle maintained as recommended by the manufacturer, keep all fluid(s) at proper levels between service intervals and save all sales receipts, invoice or work orders showing the date, odomter reading, a description of your vehicle, the VIN and the maintenence services performed, including parts and fluids used to complete these services.

    - You must authorize any charge(s) necessary to determine the cause of failure. This includes necessary diagnostic and tear down charges. If it is determined that the failure does not constitute a Breakdown under the terms of this
  • madcowzmadcowz Member Posts: 7
    If it is determined that the failure does not constitute a Breakdown under the terms of this Contract, you must pay for all diagnostic, tear down and repair charges

    - You are responsible for payment of sales or other taxes applicable

    - You must cooperate in Our investigation of the Breakdown. You must allow us to inspect your vehicle if we ask to do so.

    ****** If you have a Breakdown Claim
    No repairs or payment shall be made without prior authorization from us
    - Emergency repairs outside of claims hours may be made withour prior approval; however, total cost is limited to $350 and you must save all failed parts.

    - You must upon request, provide us with verifiable copies of all sales receipts, invoices, and work orders showing that the Vehicle has been properly serviced and maintained according to manufacturer specifications
  • chrisgivenschrisgivens Member Posts: 14
  • boomer1bboomer1b Member Posts: 316
    Pay the extra $$$ get a mfr. backed warranty.
    Shop the net for a mfr. warranty. They CAN be had for a reasonable price that may be lower than your selling dealer.

    I got ripped off ONCE by a non-mfr. aftermarket warranty.
    Once bitten twice shy............
  • sandman46sandman46 Member Posts: 1,798
    From all those restrictions...what is covered...lol! Get a manufacturers backed warranty if you must have one, I'm getting an uneasy feeling with this one!
    Seriously, it's your money, so do what you want. But for true piece of mind, spend the extra $'s for the factory warranty.

    The Sandman :-)
  • voicemailkingvoicemailking Member Posts: 83
    have a 2000 odyssey with 90,000 miles. when new bought the 7/100,000 extended....i have used it twice without a problem, BUT had problems with the warranty company covering the power doors (EX Model)...they will not pay for adjustments only complete breakdown (sometimes), my dealer (rick case) here in florida could care less...Also own an Acura (yea rick case again)...because of attitude etc, will never buy Honda again *nor would i buy Honda Care warranty..Just my opinion!!
  • vatvat Member Posts: 1
    i am buying a GMC envoy 2002 with 41,000 the dealer has quoted me $1790 for 3yrs warranty.. is this a good or bad deal....... should i shop around ....... thankyou
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    "they will not pay for adjustments"

    Most BASIC warranties won't cover adjustments past 12,000 miles, just for your information.

    Warranties, in general, cover breakdowns and failures, not adjustments. I think your expectations are a little too high for ANY warranty.
  • boomer1bboomer1b Member Posts: 316
    SMASH it ! Then its broke for sure no adjustment necessary ! Extreme for sure.........

    PS: Don't tell anybody your honda has problems at 100k miles.
    Some folks will think your honda bashing and won't believe you!
    Only GM cars have problems from what I read here! LOL.................
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    don't smash it, because then, it's damage...

    I sold extended warranties, and was very strong as an F&I guy, like three acres of green onions.

    At a Honda store, my warranty sales covered only 7% of the total contracts. At a GM and Chrysler store, with Pontiac, Buick, GMC, Dodge, Jeep and Chrysler, I averaged 45%.
  • madcowzmadcowz Member Posts: 7
    Although the rep tried to convince me to keep it as I expected, surprisingly cancelling seemed pretty painless. I thought I might get some trouble! She did mention it takes 10-30 days to process the cancellation and receive my refund, but since there's a 30 day review period that I was under in which I could cancel for a full refund, they better not hold it out and then 'process' my cancellation 30 days later! At least I have a lawyer in the family just in case anything goes wrong!
  • boomer1bboomer1b Member Posts: 316
    Yea.I know......Good for a laugh tho !

    Drift..Did they ever find your MC that was stolen last year ? How about your PT issues?
    Haven't seen ya post much about them and was wondering ...............
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    The PT is going strong at 53k (!), but is getting ready to be sold - replacing it with a 2005 Ford F-350 Crew Cab SRW 4x4 w/Powerstroke and 6-speed manual.

    The wife said she wanted another truck, so I'm getting a TRUCK. We've owned 2 duallies, both crew cabs, a crew cab SRW, and two Suburbans, so she'll be fine with it.

    With the 6.0 Powerstroke issues and fuel delivery issues I'm seeing in lemon law cases, I'll be getting the Ford ESP Premium Care "Wraparound" for it for sure...

    At least the Ford is way back (statistically) from the GM diesel cases I'm seeing - those Duramaxes, and especially the Allison transmissions are dropping like flies.
  • boomer1bboomer1b Member Posts: 316
    A lot of those $500 each injector problems/woes on those Duras on the GM truck sites. The Allie is also troublesome !
    Diesels are funny...The guys either swear by them OR AT them !............LOL !

    Me ...A Chevy 2500 x-cab v-8 gasser with a regular L480e auto. and a snow plow is a bulletproof combo for my needs!.

    Wish I was in Philly sitting at Johns steaks having a YUMMY cheesesteak or roast pork sandwich!

    Hey is that big ship the USS United States still sitting there at the pier ? I read a cruise line bought it and was gonna put it into service again.
    That ship still hold the speed record of some kind I read...........
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    I only know about the New Jersey - lots of respect for that boat and it's many crew - it was dropping shells on the lines in Kuwait from 23 miles out, supporting us in Desert Storm...

    THAT'S support fire when they're hurling shells the size of Chevy Aveos at the bad guys to help you out!

    I like the Dodge, but it's WAY too loud, and I have a good bud (fellow Edmundser) who I'll be getting the Ford from at a steal price...
  • boomer1bboomer1b Member Posts: 316
    SS United States not the Navy ship.

    Its still docked in Philly. You can see it from Johns steaks... http://www.ssunitedstates.org
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    I was also thinking about the Constitution, a sailing ship...
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,241
    ...and now back to our regularly scheduled programming - the myth and magic of extended warranties!

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  • gm02gm02 Member Posts: 49
    Considering an ext warranty for my 2002 Chevy Silverado, will only go with MFG as I was caught up in the WG fall out, did get my $$$ back from the CC so I consider myself lucky.

    GM has offered a 5year/50K, zero deduct for $1485. It is 5yr/50k from the time I purchase.
    From what others have seen, is this considered a good deal? Where are some other places(web)I can be looking to shop.
    Thanks
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