2008 Toyota Highlander

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  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
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  • 1headlight1headlight Member Posts: 24
    tidester,

    Thanks for the pic info. I luv pic posts. :shades:
  • dan719dan719 Member Posts: 1
    I'm having problems with my 2008 Highlander alarm as well. What did your dealer end up doing to fix this problem?
  • toyseekertoyseeker Member Posts: 81
    Replace hood latch.
  • ronnronn Member Posts: 398
    Can someone tell me why the 2008 review by the editors is not out yet, and the 2009 is already listed? With so many consumer reviews that are excellent, why has the 2008 Highlander not been rated?
    As for the consumer ratings, it has one of the most reviews of any SUV out there.
  • knwpskknwpsk Member Posts: 8
    THANKS to everyone who documented your problems/solutions with alarms going off. I have the same problem, started about a week ago. Going to print out the note from this forum about "electronic hood sensor" and take it to the dealer with me. Will report back here afterward.
  • mtairyordgemtairyordge Member Posts: 144
    I have a 2008 HL Limited push start. This is my 4th highlander and I know how to reset that maintenance required message on the older model.

    So I used that procedure on my 2008. No luck.

    Did it change? Can someone post it so I can recheck my self.

    Thanks -- - - - Geez! :P
  • bdymentbdyment Member Posts: 573
    We are curious. What do mean by Limited push start?
  • knwpskknwpsk Member Posts: 8
    Update on my own post regarding excessive panic alarms:

    Thanks to the hints on this forum (regarding the hood sensor switch), I may have solved my problem on my own. I opened the hood, checked for obstructions, and found a "pop rivet" (my words) near the latch that was loose. It's a little fastener that holds a plastic liner part to the metal frame. Pushed it back in, closed the hood securely. Haven't had an alarm since.

    Did the fastener/rivet have anything to do with the alarm? Who knows. But something changed. Maybe just reseating/latching the hood did the trick.
  • mtairyordgemtairyordge Member Posts: 144
    You have to get out and push the vehicle and pop the clutch..........LOL no only joking.

    Thre is a push button start of the engine. Not a bad feture, I like not having a traditional key in my pocket while at work or walking around the store. Only problem is that I sometimes forget to take it with me or even turn the damn car off when exiting the car. But I really do like the feature. :)
  • toyseekertoyseeker Member Posts: 81
    mtairyordge, check post 2681.

    enjoy
  • 4wheelinit4wheelinit Member Posts: 4
    I just bought a new 2008 Highlander Sport. While I have seen many posts and discussions about the automatic locking features and how to change them or modify them, I have a question I haven't seen covered.

    I noticed that no matter how the doors lock (automatically, manually) and whether the vehicle is moving or not, I can still pull on the door handle and open the door. Other cars I've owned haven't had this feature (none were Toyotas, though I've rented many Camrys and a 2006 Highlander and never noticed it). Is this feature intentional, and if so why? Is there a way to override it?

    I don't mind the automatic locking whether it occurs when you start the car or at a certain speed, but I don't understand why a locked car can be opened from the inside. While I don't expect to accidentally open the door and I always wear my seat belt, I'm not quite as confident with my generally responsible 10 year old son or others in the passenger seat. This strikes me as a safety feature that should be configurable.

    Is there any way to change this so that locked doors can not be opened simply by pulling the inside door handle?

    Thanks in advance,

    Mark
  • 1headlight1headlight Member Posts: 24
    I assume you are refering to the rear passenger doors. When the rear passenger door is open, look along the surface on underneath the door latch on the door that physically opens. There is a child safety switch that will have the option to allow the door to either open or remain locked when attempted to be opened from the inside.

    If it is the front doors, they should open at the lever from the inside on command at all times.

    Let us know what it is.

    Thanks
  • 4wheelinit4wheelinit Member Posts: 4
    Thanks for the quick response. I was actually referring to the front doors.

    This is the first car I've had where the door handle seems to override the locked status.

    I do see that the rear doors don't have this setting.

    Was this always that way for the Highlander? And what is the logic behind it? I admit it escapes me.

    Mark
  • bdymentbdyment Member Posts: 573
    This is an interesting observation. I just checked our 2009 Ford Escape Limited and the doors open the same as your Highlander. However, I don't think our 2007 Ford Escape opened this way, nor our 2004 Highlander. The door handles in the 04 Highlander and the 07 Escape would not over ride a locked door button. Strange. The dealers will probably tell us that this is a safety feature, so you can get out the vehicle in a hurry if there is an accident. Of course they will tell us anything.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    In an acccident the battery might fail, get disconnected, or get crushed. With the doors locked you would have no easy escape route. I never wish to own a vehicle without this "feature".
  • lucky_777lucky_777 Member Posts: 205
    I looked at it on my 08 HL and only front doors unlock automatically. Rear doors where kids normally seat require lock to be explicitly unlocked in order to open the door.
  • 4wheelinit4wheelinit Member Posts: 4
    Thanks to all of you for your replies. Even if the battery were to fail, aren't the locks controlled by your hand or the electric locking system which would make the argument for this "feature" unnecessary? I really don't know the answer, but having unlocked many "electric" locks by hand it seems like the mechanism is actually mechanical but power assisted.

    Trust me... I'm no engineer or car expert, so please bdyment or anyone else please correct me... or confirm if you agree.

    Thanks again,

    Mark
  • gdkogergdkoger Member Posts: 23
    I hate to back track.. But that is the way this forum works. You are exactly right about the NAV. And most people who argue this are lying and don't have a NAV or at least this version. Because this is the most annoying thing. If there reasoning is safety, then add more voice features. The voice features are useless and the NAV is useless unless you type in where you are going when you start. Or going home.. What did you do to fix this lockout.

    Thanks in advance...
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Member Posts: 7,160
    How is it that you find the voice recognition feature useless? In the deliveries I do on the Navi systems I make certain that every new owner understands when and how to use it before they drive off.
    You can control the audio
    You can give it POI groups, on the fly
    You can have it send you home, on the fly
    You can change the destination, on the fly
    What specifically is it that you want it to do that it won't do?
  • gdkogergdkoger Member Posts: 23
    Yes you can turn POI on or OFF, but it doesn't show where to go. It doesn't take you anywhere. Meaning I want to go to BK. I can only turn on restaurants. I can't find the closest BK to me right now. How good is that? 65 voice commands.. WOW great Radio features. ahhh AM, FM1 or FM2, SAT or CD Changer. What about stations? Change the destination?? What to Home? What tell it an address.. Good Luck! I have no accent, no draw, no lisp, nothing.. And it gets 2 out 10 thing correct that I say. But yet I can use a current Honda NAV, and all those features work by my voice, including setting the temp to 72 degrees for the driver side. I can also try and fake a voice and it works. I can also have a passenger type an address while in motion. So don't even try and sell this NAV as acceptable. You may sell them, but I don't believe you own one.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Member Posts: 7,160
    I do sell them and I know more about them than any salesperson within 500 mi. I've tested all the Toyota systems and except for the Avalon which is a PITA the Toyota systems are easy to use.

    The failure was in the delivery process because that salesperson was uninterested or unable to explain how it works. Maybe I can assist you from afar over the Internets...

    Home?
    New destination on the fly?
    Finding the closest BK?
    Dialing a restaurant or police station while enroute?

    Only the Prius has the 'Temperature' commands but it's a smaller car with no dual zone options. They are very easy to use. The vehicles with dual zone options - Tundra, Sequoia, Sienna, Avalon, Camry - don't have the 'Temp' commands.

    Regarding the fact that Toyota has blocked access to typing on the screen or entering a tel # on the screen while the vehicle is moving is a conscious decision on it's part. They obviously designed it that way intentionally. If Honda allows it that's a conscious decision on its part. The companies are different.
  • gdkogergdkoger Member Posts: 23
    Are you saying there are more than 65 commands (give or take a couple)? While driving how do I find the closest BK, and have it take me there? And also, how about finding and calling the closest Outback on my way to my destination?
  • mtairyordgemtairyordge Member Posts: 144
    I also find the Toyo Nav system to be less than user friendly. Granted my salesperson did not provide me with a review of it. I have been learning about it via this and other forums, Toyota Nation for one.

    My wife's Acura Nav (tech) system is so much better and flexible. If I could take that system and drop it in the Highlander I would be a happy puppy.

    But lets get to it......What is the over ride for the Toyota system? I know that some have developed a hardware override, but I have never heard of a software override.

    kdhspyder - where are you located? It would be great if someone could explain how to get the voice recognition to understand simple commands. I got a list from this forum.

    One example: dialing a number by voice. When saying "0" the word "ZERO" causes two 00 to be in the phone number like 41005558746 guess what too many numbers. But if you say OH then only one 0 is used like 4105558746.

    Understanding how the voice recognition works would make this a more enjoyable vehicle.
  • mtairyordgemtairyordge Member Posts: 144
    I purchased a 2008 HL Limited around Memorial Day. I have owned a 2001, 2003 and a 2004 HL Limited.

    The brakes on the 2001 where horrible. They never stopped the vehicle in time and I developed a pattern of slowing down way in advance of a stop, not a bad thing. This was annoying if not actually dangerous in panic type stops. As a result I traded that in after 12000 miles on a 2003. The 2003 brakes where adequate and got the job done. I traded that on a 2004 after 15000 miles for additional features. After 70000 miles I traded for the current 2008.

    Now the 2008 brakes are more like the 2001 than the 2003 or 2004. What's up with that? Anyone else experience the same thing, or have an explaination.

    :D
  • bdymentbdyment Member Posts: 573
    Perhaps you should go for a longer test drive before buying to fully check out the brake operation.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Member Posts: 7,160
    I just spend 15 min in a brand new 2008 with Navi and BT. I tried all the normal commands that I give to the VR system when a customer is taking delivery. There were no significant problems.

    The BT took about 30 sec to program then I used it to 'Dial by Number' to call our switchboard that has 3 zeros in it. It clearly understood. Then I commanded it to "Dial" and it went through.

    There are less commands in the new Navi systems than there are in the Prius; 'Temperature XX' for example and changing preset radio stations by voice are not available. The other audio, BT and map commands were tried; all seemed to work fine. Why do the newer systems eliminate the 'Temp' and 'Preset' commands? I think because they are triply redundant. In the Prius you can
    ..use the touch screen
    ..use the steering wheel toggles
    ..use voice commands
    Why all three? The voice commands are not necessary to change radio stations nor to change the temperatures.

    As to overriding the blockage on the screen for entering a new destination and or to find nearby POI's they all work easily by voice command.

    Entering a new destination on the fly is done on the Map screen ( "Map" ) by the following commands
    "Map"
    "Address"
    Say the State: "New York"
    Say the City: "New York"
    Say the Street: "Hudson Street"
    Say the Number: "3-4-5"
    Say Enter Destination: "Enter Destination"

    Try "I'm Hungry" when in the Current Position mode when within 2 mi range.

    BTW..command the system!
  • thardgravethardgrave Member Posts: 57
    This is a really strange complaint on this board....in over a year now since the 2008 were introduced, I remember hearing of several other complaints, but never regarding the braking. I also clearly remember reading many road tests and driving impressions, and never remember reading anything other then good or very good brakes....most of the complaints have been with the electronic assisted steering and the lack of center feel in it.
    I have put about 15,000 miles on my 2008 Limited, including driving in hilly areas and in busy freeway traffic and have never had any issues with either braking effectivenes or fading, so not sure what to say. Maybe others can chime in if they have had issues also.
  • lucky_777lucky_777 Member Posts: 205
    Brakes on my HL are excellent and this is a first complaint I've heard about HL brakes. Get your car checked out by the dealer.
  • sunilvsunilv Member Posts: 26
    Hey last day I played with the NAV while driving in 40 miles.
    Here is how I went to the nearest BK. I selected the MapView on the screen and selected Display POI and then selected Fast Food. (Or you can use the voice command fast food) So it listed all the fast food centers in the map (like BK, McDonalds, Subway...) I zoomed out the screen and saw the nearest BK and selected the BK Icon and hit Enter. That's it......... the NAV then assigned the destination as BK.

    I think the only thing you can't do is to type an address or number while driving.
    Reply me if I am wrong.
  • toyseekertoyseeker Member Posts: 81
    Yes, have them checked out by the dealer. My 08 HL Ltd. stops remarkably quick even while towing a 2,000lb trailer without trailer brakes.
  • lilstinklilstink Member Posts: 4
    Anybody with an '08 HL that mountain bikes? I am torn between a Sienna or HL. I have rented a Sienna before and know there is plenty of room for 2 bikes and gear. Anybody have experiences with putting bikes inside their HL?
  • toyseekertoyseeker Member Posts: 81
    Nope.. I use a trailer hitch mounted rack.. keeps the mud outside - love it :) Plus my bikes have rather large frames !

    That said, my friend has a Sienna and it is truly carnivorous.
  • mtairyordgemtairyordge Member Posts: 144
    I am not sure what a longer test drive would do as most test drives are not "real world conditions" that is to say that you can never drive the car on the streets and times that you would normally do in your everyday life.

    It just so happened that I took 6 test drives from November to May when I purchased the vehicle. I drove sport and limited models without much difference to what I was use to 2003 HL Lmtd. What I have noticed on the 2008 in a very pronounced way if the transmission downshifting to assist in stopping the vehicle.

    It's not a showstopper for me cause I enjoy so many other things about the HL

    I guess I am more sensitive than others to these peculiarities.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    The '09 FWD HL is available with improved FE via a 187HP 4 cylinder so I would suspect a 4 cylinder Sienna will not be far behind.

    Worth the wait..??
  • toyseekertoyseeker Member Posts: 81
    Rent one. Drive it for a day or two. Two of my last three Avis rentals were base Highlanders. I am so happy I sprung for the Ltd. (over the base).

    After driving a 5-speed for most of my life, all automatics drive me nuts. Somewhere around 2004 Toyota seems to have added the downshift thing to their cars - both on braking and with the cruise control on. Both drive me nuts .. I'd love to modify that code !
  • mherr05mherr05 Member Posts: 14
    I hate to say it but I have buyers remorse on our new Highlander Sport.

    I had been admiring the car for quite some time and I was excited when we got it but there were some things that I overlooked. After having it a month there are some things that just seem cheap about it. Like the fact that several controls in the car (passengers windows, auto lock, light dimmers,etc) that are not illuminated at night. That just seems odd to me and should be a standard feature. Also, the captains chairs are sorta a pain since we cant put our child's car seat in the center without it covering up the seat belt latches on either outer seats. That is sorta frustrating. And, we were under the impression it was satellite ready but further investigation shows we have to actually buy the antenna and receiver, which costs at least $200 and probably more to install. Bummer. And the dealer was not clear on this. The third row is handy, and while we dont really use it (right now), there is absolutely no room in the back when it is up. So I would not be able to put much of anything back there like a stroller. So we have been thinking of getting storage for the roof rack. And I dont know about other people but there are some major blind spots in the car and neither myself or my husband have been able to find a comfortable seating position for driving.

    I know, I know.....shoulda woulda coulda. I am just saying I am a little disappointed in some of the features compared to other cars out there. We bought the highlander for Toyota's reliability and safety so I am happy there, but I dont think it will be very functional for us in the long term as we expand our family. Looks like we could be trading it in a few years. :(
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Member Posts: 7,160
    Size-wise unless you step up to a GM lambda ( assuming that they are still in business then ) all the crossovers are the same size. Put a 3rd row in any of them and there's no room in back.

    A minivan has all the room a growing family needs. But it's a minivan. Some love them and some won't be seen in one. Choices.!!!
  • toyseekertoyseeker Member Posts: 81
    Having rented a few base models and a sport on various business trips, I must say that the LTD is definitely worth the price... or at least the backup camera is. I was surprised how much different the base is to backup from the limited.

    I am 6'2" and have surprisingly little blind spot when driving it, given its girth. I think the big mirrors help a lot. I usually set my mirrors so I can just see down the side of the vehicle and I always turn my head glance back before changing lanes.

    I agree on the lack of lighting in the car, but for the last 11ish years I've only had Toy's, I am so familiar with the controls, it doesn't need light. But.. Toyota should have lit them up.

    I don't have kids, but my wife is much smaller than me so memory seats would have been nice... and lumbar on the passenger side front is missing.

    3rd row seat in a crossover = severe drain on storage space. To have both, you either need a small trailer or roof rack if you're tall enough, or a minivan / suburban. To think we used to survive (space-wise) in K-cars and Pinto's ?

    PS: someone said earlier in this forum that installing the satellite module was very laborious... something about removing the drivers seat and dashboard. But, given how much Sat radio 'skips', I would personally never bother with it - even if it was easy to install.
  • mherr05mherr05 Member Posts: 14
    Toyseeker: what is the difference with the LTD that would make backing up different? Are you talking about the backup camera?

    Responding to both posts.....

    I agree about the third row and extra space for crossovers. You are correct at that. I guess the only option I saw was the Saturn Outlook as it does have more space with the third row, but it is very dull and boring inside. And everyone I know said DO NOT buy an american car (GM, Chevy). Although I think they have gotten better over the years. I checked the ratings on the Saturn OL, Chevy Tahoe and they are pretty good. But def more expensive to maintain with gas and all.

    My husband and I are both about 5'6" so I guess we cant do much about the blind spots in a bigger type of car. We used to have a Nissan Altima. I would have loved a memory seat option too as my husband and I are always changing everything when we get back in. Oh and blinker lights on the mirrors would have been awesome as well. One nice feature is the led that shines down on the console at night. Niice feature.

    I think we may check out an independent satellite control. I dont think we are up for tearing apart the whole dash and paying X amount of $$ to install.

    So, for now the Highlander is good for us, but im afraid when we decide to have more kiddos it will start to get cramped.
  • toyseekertoyseeker Member Posts: 81
    Yes, and to my surprise, the camera was a "don't care" to me when buying. I thought they were most useful so as to not backup over your kids (of which I have none). Anyway, the camera has been invaluable in 'single shot' parking when backing in to a tight spot, hooking up the trailer, etc. I even put some tape on the garage floor so I can always park at the same distance from the door (I always back into the garage due to the configuration of my driveway). I just backup until the tape disappears under the bumper - no fear of closing the door onto the front bumper !

    I guess what surprised me the most was how much more difficult it was to park without the camera, relatively speaking of course.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Maybe a Sienna or Odyssey? I know minivans aren't cool right now, but compared to an SUV they have noticeably more room, ride better, get better mileage and are probably less likely to roll in an accident. I've had both and the minivan was a much better buy for the buck unless you really need the ground clearance.
  • thardgravethardgrave Member Posts: 57
    Having a Highlander and also having a daughter with 3 kids and a Sienna, I tend to agree with most of the other posts....if you really need 3 seats plus meaningful luggage space, then none of the crossovers are really going to work.........to get that kind of room you need either a full size SUV, which will be huge or a minivan such as the Odessy or the Sienna. The Sienna has a very useful and deep rear storage area even with all 3 seats up, and also gets decent gas mileage.........but, a number of folks wouldn't be caught dead in one.
    As to any of the GM products, including the Tahoe and the 3 crossovers (Acadia, Enclave, Outlook), the very latest issue of Consumer Reports gave all of them only a mediocre rating as to reliability, etc. The highly touted Mazda CX9 also did not fare all that well, and none of these gets quite as good as mileage. Consumers bases their findings on actual feedback surveys from current owners. For all of those reasons, the Highlander remains there top rated crossover, so not sure there is one best choice for you. I also have the Limited and find the rear camera very useful when backing up in parking lots, and I also do like the large rearview mirrors. I also think most of these utility vehicles are going to have some amount of blind spots due to their size and body style, compared to most of the sedans.
  • lilstinklilstink Member Posts: 4
    Are any of the 2008 and newer HL owners concerned about lack of tire choices on the 19" wheels? From what I could find on tirerack.com there are only a couple of choices.
    I personally don't understand the larger wheel trend, especially for a car like the HL. Would it be correct to assume that 17" wheels could be retrofitted to the Sport and Limited versions since the base model has 17" wheels? Wouldn't 17" wheels give a smoother, more compliant ride? I am just trying to do as much research as possible before making a new car decision...
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    Larger wheels on an SUV are for visual appeal ONLY....!!

    On the other hand most of these "crossover" SUV's will never be driven on anything but relatively s..m..o..o...t...h paved roadbeds.

    So there is little requirement for the tire to be a significant part/portion of the suspension system.
  • dj_davedj_dave Member Posts: 16
    Has anyone recently bought weathertech mats for their highlander? I had heard they were having some mold problems back in the spring that was causing the mats to not fit properly. Weathertech seems the most talked about -- are there any other brands (aside from the OEM mats from Toyota) that work well as all weather floor mats?
  • vtgk7vtgk7 Member Posts: 17
    I bought the Husky Heavy Duty floor mats for my Highlander Ltd. last year and they have worked out great, so much so, that I leave them in the vehicle year round.
  • pilot21078pilot21078 Member Posts: 5
    I found a 2008 Sport 4WD in wave line pearl with leather interior, towing prep package, with bluetooth/9 speaker JBL system for 29,651 before taxes, tags, processing fee. The on the road price I was quoted was 31,919. It seems pretty much in line with edmunds.com TMV pricing. I'm thinking it's a pretty good deal but was wondering what others on the board thought of this pricing. Can I do better?
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    If you need, truly need, 4WD, that is NOT what the HL has.

    The HL, RX, Sienna, and possibly the RAV4, are all F/AWD, Front torque biased AWD, basically a FWD vehicle with some minor marketing aspect added on. These vehicles are equipped ONLY with a simple, totally open, center diff'l with TCS used to apportion torque in times of need. Absent the TCS', Traction Control System's activation the only time all four wheels will be driven is when all four tires have roughly equal (high or low) roadbed traction. Mostly, basically, at the times you have absolutely no requirement for same.

    After years of owner frustration over this matter Toyota (and Lexus), as recently as maybe a year ago, is providing a means to disable TCS for those times (adverse, slippery roadbed conditions) it is more, much more, of a detriment than an asset.

    The only sideways mounted engine, F/AWD, SUV on the market today that I would trust is the Acura SH-AWD system.

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  • damifinomikedamifinomike Member Posts: 64
    Greetings:
    I bought the WeatherTech mats approx one year ago when I bought my 08 Highlander. Only bought the Front mats and cargo liner for rear since I leave the 3rd row seat in Down position most of the time anyhow. So far, great mats and like them a lot. Friend has a 2000 Highlander and he has those mats installed since his vehicle was new. Thus, no problems. I bought the tan colored ones to match tan leather interior on the Highlander Ltd.
    Cheers.
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