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Yep, We originally looked at the 3.5S, but we wanted power seats,(my wife was not sure she could get comfy in the manual seats) and the only way you could get them was the 3.5SL with the special edition package. The backup camera was a welcome edition as well, and has already found itself to be useful in maneuvering our tight driveway as well as parking lots. I am ashamed to say it, but it even stopped me from backing up when my errant niece ran behind the van without me seeing her. She was pretty far away and in the rear pillar blind spot, but when I saw the movement off to the side I stopped and got out to check.
We however did NOT want the DVD, the kids watch enough TV and they do not need to be whining for it every 10 minute trip. On the long trips we set up the portable DVD. However, the window sticker said it was wireless headphones compatible, and since the headphones are not available as an option, and another dealer says he does not even know how to order them, I am assuming they come with the car.
As for the heated seats, it may be a type-o, but if you look in the options matrix it shows the heated seats standard on the 3.5SL Spec Ed package. the list to the right of the equipment in the 3.5sl Spec ed package does not list the heated seats.
So far I do not understand why this van gets such bad reviews, it seems better in many ways to any other van we looked at, and the pure space is just super. why would anyone drive around in one of those overstuffed Toyotas?
Still have not heard form anyone about whether oil changes have to be done at the dealer...someone out there has to know.
For instance, the dealer we just bought from has a $29.99 oil change special listed on their website. I called the local Jiffy Lube and was given a price of $34.99 and can easily find a $5 off coupon online, so services are priced the same.
Sounds like you are really enjoying your purchase, and I agree, the roominess is just great!
> that have greater experience and could comment on why
> there may be such a spread, it would be appreciated.
dslunceford, you leased? In your first post (#499), it looks like your talk about a price for buying and a lease deal, and it wasn't clear what you did.
baxter3, you also leased, I see.
I don't think $711 under invoice is the real price for someone who is buying cash. It must be a nominal value for setting the terms of the lease, and there must be something in the lease, such as residual, money factor, or interest, that is favorable for Nissan and allows them to state the $711 under invoice in the lease. (Or maybe there is some kind of regional manufacturer-to-dealer incentive where you are.)
The reason is, I just don't see $711 under invoice in my market. Every dealer I've talked to starts to balk just before invoice, and goes to stone at invoice. Some won't go to invoice. One guy gave me a token under invoice.
Can anybody confirm a non-financed (at least not by F&I at the dealership), no trade, purchase (not lease) deal on a 2007 Quest for less than invoice?
BTW, dslunceford, you say in post #499:
> Couldn't find holdback info for the 2007s yet, but it was
> around $1000 for the 2006 SE's, so I'm figuring the
> dealer still made $300+ on the sale of the vehicle (which
> was in stock).
But the things I've read say that a dealer wants/needs $1300 or $1400 gross profit to make his net profit, and the holdback is a primary source of that gross that he won't give up. So a dealer making $300 gross is dubious to me.
Comments welcome.
I'm not really for screwing dealers, even though they do screw customers frequently. If they treat me okay, and give me what I want at a price that I'm agreeable to, that's a good deal for me (and probably for them).
The only problem is "a price that I'm agreeable to" depends on the market, and is very hard to know well because the dealers and manufacturers are always playing games with prices.
It shouldn't matter to the dealer whether or not you buy or lease (unless they are able to offer lease specials, which they would then push -- there are no such specials I'm aware of currently).
Since earlier post, I found holdback info for Nissan is 2% of Invoice (http://www.edmunds.com/advice/incentives/holdback/index.html), so that would mean on my vehicle holdback would have been around $688.
I don't know why they made the deal, necessarily, except it was stock on hand, was a holiday weekend, and Nissan wants to finally find some success in the minivan space?
Funny, though, since you and baxter3 got the same deal, it must have been some circumstance common to both of your dealers.
I guess some more information would be helpful, if anyone has something to share.
Also, not to be argumentative, but if you look in the options matrix it shows the heated seats standard on the 3.5 SL with the Spec Ed package (the little box has SL in it denoting the Spec Ed package not the L denoting the leather package). The packages list to the right of the equipment matrix for the 3.5SL Spec ed package does not list the heated seats so one or the other must be incorrect.
HondaKid
HONDAkid
P.S. and this offer is for the 07 Quest?
May we NEVER talk again!
Sincerely,
HONDAKid
This is what I got out of my local dealer:
The MSRP: 26775
The discount: -1293.00(what that is for I dont know)
Rebate: -3000.00
Sale Price: 22482.00
State & Local Taxes:1155.13
License , Title, Reg. Fees: 80.00
I'm wondering if it is still possible for them to come down some on the price. Any suggestions? :confuse:
Take a look on Edmunds for invoice pricing for the Quest S special edition. You may want to invest in a DVD player with 4 boys.
We have 3 little ones so I was moved to respond to you.
I follow all the online advice from Edmunds et al and refuse to deal from MSRP; I start with Invoice. This has worked for several years / vehicles / dealers for us.
It's hard to comment on your price because an S-SP can still come with additional options and we can't tell from your MSRP what else is on that van. I can say the MSRP you typed is about 1300 higher than Edmunds base 06S SP MSRP (25450), so it probably has a couple options or dealer add-ons on it. Edmunds says invoice is 23537, so add that same 1300 to reach 24837 sale price. You have them nearly 2400 cheaper than that, which suggest to me you *might* be getting a decent price. There could be several other factors to look at. Discount could be because they need to move all the 2006s out now that 2007s are coming in. SOme of it could be that they had a local aftermarket guy put something on there and tried to mark it up 500. Dealers pay interest for every unit on their lot because they borrow money to buy them, so that's another reason they need to move them, especially older ones. The longer they have that van, the more its price will drop. Rebate is from Nissan, that's yours no matter what. They still make money in other ways (i.e. holdback) you won't even see.
You might want to consider looking at the new Hyundai Entourage. I am - even though I'm a Nissan lover and have 2 2004 Quests now. I had to look because they offered virtually all the same options at thousands less. They have incredible warranty coverage, which should be all the more important to single moms of many on a budget. The worst difference for me is the CD stereo power difference, which I'd bet won't matter to you like it does me. The spare is inconvenient, but they give you some years of free roadside assistance anyway..
Food for thought, hope this helps and good luck! Let us know what you do.
What I want:
2007 SL
SL Prem. package
Skyview w/ Sirius
SL upgrade
Seat package
micorfilter
MSRP $36415 but no VDC
invoice $33132
...they have offered this Quest w/ misc options(they have 6 in FL region w/ MSRP of $36855..must have floor mats or whatever also...started "$400 over invoice" $33950 supposedly non-negoitable)
But the 2007 SE with VDC and DVD/tech package list out $38055 w/o misc crappy addons...that should be included ie floor mats...I figure same price of $400 invoice so car would be $1500 more to get VDC
Long winded ...is the Nissan VDC(vehicle Dynamic control) worth that much
If anyone in the Toronto Ont area has this info, would you please post it.
Thanks In Advance,
TSXKid
It will be hard to get an apples to apples comparison this late int eh model year. I would sit down and decide what is the closest I can get in each vehicle, determine what options are the most important (ones you must have and the ones that you can do without) and negotiate the best price for each van. All three manufacturers want to clear out their 2006 since 2007 will be on the lots next month. I know Nissan is giving the Quest a makeover for 2007 and are aggressively selling the Quest. The Sienna and Odyssey will be a tougher negotiation but you shoudl be able to get a decent deal. I doubt your friend's saleman will give you the same price if they have to deal with another dealership.
She also felt the 2007 drove better
The Toyota on the Limited has few options unavailable on even Top lIne Quest
My wife loves here new 2007 Quest 3.5 SE with SE Tech/ SIrius and DVD (she moved from 2001 ML320).. except Nav/Pax package(only option we did not get)
Also, I disagree if the vehicle is on a lot fairly close it will cause zero issues IMHO...our 2007 was 200miles away
Wholesale/ Retail
Base Price: $30769/ $33650
Destination: 650/ 650
19" Run Flat Tire
(VDC): 738
Splash Guards: 113
Seat Upgrade: 690
Mats: 119
Dual DVD screen: 1648
Cargo Cover: 44
Nav System: 1561
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Final: $36287/ $39925
Dealer pirce: $36637
Minus Rebate $33637
plus tax/tags
This is $6288 under MSRP. I have read that $8-10k under MSRP is what you can expect. I have no need for the Nav System, which I cannot avoid with this package. Without the Nav system, I am paying $32066, which is $7849 under MSRP. I would probably be comfortable if they accepted the offer of 32066, but it still seems to be more than what others say they are paying. If we dropped it to wholesale, I would net the $350 above invoice and would be 8199 under MSRP at $31716. How does this price compare with others' experiences?
The $31,716 gets you in the $8k-$10k range. Start negotiating at $31,5k and see what happens. If you are sold on the Quest, you should get quotes from th other dealerships in your town. You should casually mention that you have visted the other dealerships as well.
Color: Nordic White Pearl
DVD DUAL SCREEN
FLOOR MATS
SEAT PACKAGE
SPLASH GUARDS
S/R WIND DEFLECTR
OTD price: $35,200
I thought it was a good price but wanted to know if anyone has gotten a better deal.
I believe the number "$15200" is a typo. Look up a few earlier posts you'll see that's actually $35200. Sorry to have your heartbeat going up for nothing!
I am looking to buy 2007 Model Minivan either Odyssey or Quest.
I haven't made much research on Quest till now. I am thinking of buying Odyssey all the time.
They best price I got on Odyssey EX-L with DVD system is 27,200.
Today, I came to know, I will get better options and Skyview in Quest for less than the above amount.
Can you tell me the best price I can get 3.5 SL Quest Model with SkyView & DVD System?
Thank you
Model
3.5 SL
Packages and Options
Splash Guards
Fold-Away Seat Package
3.5 SL Panasonic® DVD Entertainment System
3.5 SL Leather Package
Rear view monitor
No Skyview.
Accessories
Cargo Organizer
Floor Mats, Carpeted
Roof Rack Crossbars
Retratable Cargo Cover
Total MSRP:$34,560.00
The dealer offer $28,000 not including TTL.
I didn't buy it because there's 400 mile on the meter. Should I buy it? or how much more I can negotiate?
Thank you.
The 400 miles on the van shouldn't be too much of an issue. The problem you run into now is the dealer will give you a great price but normally only for car already on the lot. They have their end of year numbers to worry about.
that's a great price, where are you located?
i'm in socal and the best i got so far is $24xxx for a 2008 3.5S with driver's package. no leather, no skyview...
not so many write ups about purchases here. 100s for odyssey/sienna.
no one like the quest? prob cuz the 2009 is coming out in a new body style this fall.
thanks!
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.ee9c851/35098
How much would you take in to consideration for a "never titled" demo depreciation?
The Nissan dealer had a 2007 Quest SE demo on the lot w/ 4k miles on it. The only other options added were the Nav & entertainment systems. Edmunds TMV for this vehicle used is 30k. The dealer wanted to sell it for 35k.
Is "never titled" worth 5k?
I am not sure what the total value added should be. Any help on how to research this would be helpful. Thanks!
In this economy, the demo is used in my mind...and no title is not worth $5K....you need to find out out what a low mile 2007 Quest SE goes at auction, then you know the bottom price..I would offer $30K and see what they say....
However, what kind of gas mileage are you getting? What was the expectation?
Dealer Email:
One Quest we have retails at $35,810.00. It is an SL model, with Silver exterior, Sunroof package, dvd system, and the SL leather group. We ordered this vehicle, and tried to order as close to a SE (the top model) as possible. It is a demonstrator and has 5,400 miles. There is also a $3,500.00 reduction from a factory rebate. There is no in-service date yet, so the factory warranty would start from the date of your purchase, and mileage from 0 miles, through 36,000. Also there is a 5 years or 60,000 mile warranty on powertrain components and labor.