I brought a Pilot in to Canada a few months ago from Washington state and I can tell you couple of details.... the warranty is most definitely voided, on both side of the border. As far as Honda is concerned, an imported vehicle is "grey market" and doesn't exist to them, so you can't take it back across the border for any work, either. It is not covered in either country. The only exception to this rule is if you are an American or Canadian who bought the car in the US while living in the US and you are moving to Canada with your vehicle. You don't need a letter from Honda re:recalls, because you can't get one and the RIV people know it. Call the number for RIV and they will email you a link with instructions for using the Honda website to search your VIN for recalls. You print out the information that you receive on the Honda site. That is all you will need when bringing in a Honda - no letter, no letterhead, nada. Honda refuses to write that letter unless you are can provide an American driver's licence number or a standard vehicle registration - again, if you are someone living in the States and moving to Canada. I bought my Pilot at RightWay Auto Sales in Burien, Wa. They specialize in low mileage, higher-end vehicles which are mostly still under warranty. I got a great deal on my Pilot through them and they were absolutely stellar to deal with. They faxed the paper work through to Customs in plenty of time for the 72 hour requirement, and they provided the 3 day temporary permit for me to drive the vehicle across the border. I did take my Alberta plates down anyway. I brought the vehicle through customs myself at White Rock (Truck Crossing) and it took 3 minutes on the American side and about 25 minutes on the Canadian side. The fees have changed for the import - the basic excise tax on air conditioning is gone, and each vehicle is assessed a fee based on its efficiency. The Pilot actually has a $0 fee now, so I just paid the import fee (around $200 which includes the Canadian Tire inspection) and the GST. I had to do the provincial inspection and have the running lights installed, and once I got my paper work from the feds in the mail, I went to Canadian Tire and they did the inspection and filed the paper work. It wasn't much of an inspection - they check the odometer, the VIN and see that the daytime running lights are working. A couple of weeks later, you get the sticker for the door of the car in the mail and you're done. We brought in an Audi A4 cab a couple of years ago from Texas and that was easy too - very much easier to deal with Audi over Honda. Audi honours the warranty. I bought a warranty for the Pilot through my local Honda dealer. They were very happy to sell it to me and I think it's a good deal. Because my Pilot only had 1600 miles on it, (it was a Honda corporate vehicle that sat in California at Honda's head office for 18 months) I was able to buy a "new car" warranty for $1700 and change that covers 5 years, 100,000 km, bumper to bumper including stuff like the Navigation system and heated seats. There is a deductible of $150 ($200 if I go somewhere besides the dealer that sold it to me) but the deductible is per visit, not per item, so I figured that was OK. I drove an Odyssey for 8 years from new and all I ever had done under warranty was brake work, so I'm hoping for the same good performance from the Pilot. However, I figured I saved so much money on this vehicle that it was still a great deal even with the extra money for the additional warranty. I'm interested in the class action law suit against these manufacturers - the cancelled warranties are ridiculous. Good luck to all who have to deal with Honda! It all works out fine in the end.
I am new to this so forgive my lack of understanding but all the regulations and comments have me confused. Toyota is on the RIV list (07s not 08s) so that means, in principal, we could buy a 07 Sienna but not an 08 in New England and bring it to Nova Scotia (easiest area for us to shop) BUT what about: - finding a dealer that will sell to us (does Toyota US have a nation wide rule not to sell to us? ) - will CDN Toyota dealers honor the warranty on 07s? - how do we know what items have to be added to meet CDN specs (minivans seem different than passsenger cars) and how much these will add to the US price? - can any of these be added in the US before going over the border? - do all Canadian Tires have these items or can they get them within the 45 day allowance period? - I was told the paperwork had to be at the border 72 hrs before now I see one has to have the vehicle there too?? - what are the real costs...6% taxes at border, ~$205 paperwork fee, $100 duty A/C, 8% taxes upon registering, the parts cost (TBA) but are there other costs beyond our time and the gas to bring it back and the gas for our other car down and back (we have family to stay with)?
I want to make sure I am doing a fair comparision. It is hard enough to make sure we cost out the same vehicle as models here include so many extras, where in the US, these have to be added to the LE FWD 7 passenger model to be equal. Your comments are very much appreciated. :confuse:
Thanks - you've confirmed what I thought, 6.1%. I found a decent, apples to apples, comparison of 07 demos (one in US and one in Toronto with similar mileage and packages) and by my calculations, you save about 15% on the all-in cost ($8844 saved on $59,204 cost in Canada - so, yes, still great savings). My calculation assumes that you are paying state tax of 6% when you buy. If you pay no sales tax at purchase, the savings goes up to 19% or around $11238. Other than buying in New Hampshire, Oregon or Montana where there is no sales tax, any other way to avoid paying sales tax in US when the vehicle is bought?
Thanks for your input. They charged me $100.00 excise tax in addition to the GST when I passed thru Customs. I assumed it was for the Air/Conditioning tax. They also charged me $212 for the Form. I am now waiting for the ok to proceed to Canadian Tire.
I'm also interested in the class action law suit against these manufacturers - the cancelled warranties are ridiculous.
I just brought my 07 Sienna into Canada last week. The epilogue to my MSO saga is that I was able to convince the dealer to issue the MSO in my name (even though the bill of sale was in my friend's name), and everything went smooth at the border. Now I'm waiting for the RIV paperwork so I can do the Cdn Tire rubber stamp and get it registered.
The only thing (I think) you need to make sure the Sienna has is the daytime running lights. I'm pretty sure everything else is standard. I think it's easier getting an option that includes DRL, as you'll get lots of other goodies and you'll be paying a lot less in the end than getting some aftermarket option installed.
You'll need to fax the border your MSO or title in your name and a worksheet 72 hours prior to crossing. The vehicle doesn't need to be there.
As for models, it appears that in the States, the LE is kind of like our CE, and their XLE is kind of like our LE. We purchased an XLE with package #5, which is "almost" like our XLE (the only thing it doesn't have is the laser cruise), but for about $15,000 less than our XLE. If you go for the top of the line XLE Limited, with the Nav, backup camera, etc, you'll end up with a van that you can't even buy in Canada, yet still cheaper than the best you can buy here.
Two tidbits I've learned that might be useful for someone else to know: 1. If you get a friend or family member to purchase the vehicle on your behalf, you must either get the MSO in your name, or wait for the title, which can then be signed over to you. If you wait for the title, the dealer doesn't need to know anything about a Canadian being involved in the deal, which could be a show-stopper at some dealers. To avoid paying state sales taxes, your friend will NOT want to register the vehicle. Read the other posts about state sales taxes and do your research on the state you plan to purchase in. (I don't think NH as a sales tax.) 2. When you cross the border, the value of your vehicle kind of blows away your $400 allowance, so you might want to take it easy on the shopping while you're driving back.
Hi JP, I see you've gotten a lot of replies to your posts. Can you stand one more? I was wondering if you would mind sharing how you found your car in the US? I've just started looking into this and so far I've been searching individual Volvo dealer websites, which is tedious. Is there something more centralized which will search larger databases? Thanks. DW
In order for your friend to get the title, does he have to register the vehicle? And do you know apprx. how long it takes for the title to arrive in the mail?
The title thing is still questionable in my mind, but this is my understanding: - my assumption is that an out-of-state purchase is most likely to avoid paying state taxes; - in Nevada, we were told that you just have to send the MSO to the main motor vehicle office in Carson City, and they would mail the title back in 5 to 6 weeks. If you want it sooner, they recommended couriering the MSO along with a prepaid courier envelope for a return of 7-10 days. - there was no mention of sales taxes to get the title. This may not be the case in all states.
If anyone has any definitive information on this, please share!
Custom broker was recommended by transport company. Peninsula Custom Brokers, Fort Erie Ontario. They made the whole process a breeze. We were in personal contact throughout the whole process, in effect they were holding my hand. There seems to be a lot of angst on this board regarding the process of importing a car from the US. The few hundred bucks ($350) you'll spend on a custom broker will be the best money you can spend. Find the right car at the right price and they'll take care of the rest! The process doesn't have to be hard.Regarding state sales tax its a great benefit not to pay it. Here in California (sales tax 8.25%) Canadians don't pay sales tax. The process is simple. Purchase car from dealer in your name. Car is picked up by auto transport company (car is never driven on California roads - therefore no sales tax), cleared by custom broker and delivered to your Canadian address.
I was getting quotes and hearing from dealers in Upper Michigan until today when GM dealers started saying that they were not allowed to sell to Canadians.
(It seems to me that violates NAFTA and is totally illegal but maybe we'll see another class action.) :mad:
I refuse to buy a new truck or any new vehicle in Canada when such bully tactics are used so if anyone can tell me of a dealer that will sell to Canadians I'd greatly appreciate it.
Can you PM (fsabbagh@yahoo.com) the 5 or more dealers that are willing to sell a Volvo to Canadians? None seem to want to sell it to me. Maybe they don't like Quebecers?
Car manufacturers have got to be breaking every anti-trust, and price-fixing laws in the land. With the CAN$ above par with the greenback and expected to stay that way for the foreseeable future, I find it obscene that we have to pay so much more than our US friends. :mad: Just like you, I'm willing to boycott the Canadian dealers until the manufacturers start playing fair.
fsabbagh, Try calling dealers in the west, Washinton, Oregon, Cali, Idaho. Contact them by email, that way they won't hear your funny accent. Just kidding.
Hi Silverfox, would you be able to share your US dealer information / what you bought and paid for it, etc. with us, we're also in Alberta looking for a reasonable location to import an XC90 from. You can email me at surferdude1966@shaw.ca. Thanx.
"1. If you get a friend or family member to purchase the vehicle on your behalf, you must either get the MSO in your name, or wait for the title, which can then be signed over to you"
When the purchaser asks the dealer to put some name on the MSO, will they need to first verify the identity of that person, such as by mailing them forms to be signed if they are not present at the time?
I was under the impression that dealers won't care that the person dealing with them is Canadian as long as the bill of sale indicates that the sale is to an American person or address.
Question: to satisfy the 72 hour rule, could a cooperative dealer hypothetically fax their blank copy of MSO to the US customs BEFORE you pay for the vehicle? This sounds like a way to inspect the vehicle first before buying then immediately drive it back across the border after purchase. Or does a name have to appear on the MSO when it is faxed?
RIV describes what has to be in the letter - the vehicle has no outstanding recalls. The dealer can write it as long as the letter head includes the vehicle's brand name. This what I used though the manufacturer eventually sent a letter too - but I didn't need it. The 72 hour wait is real - and can be more than 72 hours. It is three full US business days - no less. Weekends and holidays don't count. And the US holidays include Thanksgiving in November, Martin Luther King Day etc. Your dealer should help in all of this. If they won't then get another dealer or brand of car.
Subarus are worse -- close to 40% on a Tribeca 7 passenger limited. Anyone that buys a Subaru in Canada is either rich and lazy, or completely unaware of how massive this scam is.
Subaru will honour the warranty (have to pay for warranty service and submit pre-approved for reimbursement; clearly some risk here). Subaru will also happily sell to Canadians. None of the Toyota / Honda crap.
911's even with the 2008 price reduction are about $30,000 less in US vs. CAN. Porsche says warranty is covered, no problem. Anyone have personal experience??
BMW 335xi coupe (AWD + Turbo) price out to OVER $20,000 less!! Are they nuts?? Warranty is also no problem. Neighbour brought over a 635 Cabriolet recently...
Website will not publish the new prices. They are on all 2008 dealer window stickers and dealer inventory lists...and listed as "M.A" (for market adjustment).
Hope that helps...Just check specific dealer inv. and compare 2008 vs. 2007... Also more optional eq. included for 2008.
"When the purchaser asks the dealer to put some name on the MSO, will they need to first verify the identity of that person, such as by mailing them forms to be signed if they are not present at the time?"
I don't think too many dealers will want to put a Canadian name/address on the MSO, unless they've been dealing with that Canadian since the beginning. That's why you might want to wait for the title if the dealer isn't cooperative.
"Question: to satisfy the 72 hour rule, could a cooperative dealer hypothetically fax their blank copy of MSO to the US customs BEFORE you pay for the vehicle? This sounds like a way to inspect the vehicle first before buying then immediately drive it back across the border after purchase. Or does a name have to appear on the MSO when it is faxed?"
The dealer could complete a copied MSO and fax that to the border to satisfy the 72 hours rule (that's actually what my dealer did, and it's a good thing, since they first issued it in my friend's name), but I highly doubt any dealer would do that prior to receiving payment. If you're concerned about inspecting the vehicle first, I suggest you make two trips. With brand new vehicles, there should be less risk that there will be any hidden surprises. Mind you, I was pretty nervous sending a foreign dealer a cheque for a vehicle sight-unseen.
bodble2, MSO is Manufacturer's Statement of Origin. It's actually used for dealer to dealer transfers and for registering the original owner with the state. If you do a Google on +MSO +"Manufacturer's Statement of Origin", you'll find out more than you'd ever want to know.
msteve, That's a really cool tidbit on the Sienna DRLs. I don't know for sure, but that's probably a $100/$200 Crappy Tire/Toyota touch. :-)
I called the US dealer we had been working with over the past few days to finalize the purchase of our Ridgeline today, and he informed me that the sale could not proceed at this time. The dealership has suspended all deals with Canadians, as a result of the recent letter from Honda USA. Does anyone know if auto brokers are still permitted to buy vehicles, and if so, can anyone recommend one?
you don't pay sales tax if you don't live there - Canadians don't pay the tax. We bought in Texas and in Washington and in both cases were exempt with our Canadian address.
Once the news about the Porsche price reduction (based soley on lost sales ....450 911's alone were imported so far in 2007) by Porsche gets some publicity...I'm sure that will pressure others to follow suit.
Mercedes, on new C-class has optioned the car out so that fully equipped with Nav it is about $52 as opposed to $58-59 last year...so IT IS coming!
I am hopping to buy a 2008 highlander with about 5,000 miles on it from my brother-in law. (He wants to upgrade to the Limited) The 2008 Highlander is not on the list and transport canada told me yesterday that you cannot bring it into Canada until it is on the list OR they said if I could get a letter from Toyota in the US saying that the vehicle complied with canadian safety standards etc etc that would suffice. Problem is I can't see Toyota US giving "little" me such a letter. Maybe that is how they control Canadians buying US vehicles and importing them.
The dealer originally wanted me to use a US address, but I worried about problems at the border. I'm not 100%, but I suspect that at a minimum you should be able to match the name/address on the MSO to your identification.
I suggest that you call the border about any specific questions. They are surprisingly helpful, and have likely seen every possible scenario, since they apparently do hundreds per week.
I am in a similar boat. Want to buy a new or slightly used 2008 Highlander.
You can pretty much bet that Toyota is NOT going to issue you a compliance letter. However, my understanding is that the RIV listing should be updated with more '08s in a few weeks. It's not just Honda and Toyota that are slow to submit their paperwork on US models to Transport Canada!
Hang in there. You don't want a paperweight in your driveway, and your brother-in-law probably doesn't want two Highlanders!
I have tried to contact some Honda dealers in Montana. They don't seem to want to deal with Canadians. I am living in Alberta. Can anyone let me know where I can find a Honda dealer who is willing to sell to Canadians? If you don't want to post the info here, please email me at aladinl@hotmail.com. Thx.
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Did the auto transport company look after the brokerage or did you use a brokerage company. If so which brokerage company did you use?
regards..
You don't need a letter from Honda re:recalls, because you can't get one and the RIV people know it. Call the number for RIV and they will email you a link with instructions for using the Honda website to search your VIN for recalls. You print out the information that you receive on the Honda site. That is all you will need when bringing in a Honda - no letter, no letterhead, nada. Honda refuses to write that letter unless you are can provide an American driver's licence number or a standard vehicle registration - again, if you are someone living in the States and moving to Canada.
I bought my Pilot at RightWay Auto Sales in Burien, Wa. They specialize in low mileage, higher-end vehicles which are mostly still under warranty. I got a great deal on my Pilot through them and they were absolutely stellar to deal with. They faxed the paper work through to Customs in plenty of time for the 72 hour requirement, and they provided the 3 day temporary permit for me to drive the vehicle across the border. I did take my Alberta plates down anyway. I brought the vehicle through customs myself at White Rock (Truck Crossing) and it took 3 minutes on the American side and about 25 minutes on the Canadian side. The fees have changed for the import - the basic excise tax on air conditioning is gone, and each vehicle is assessed a fee based on its efficiency. The Pilot actually has a $0 fee now, so I just paid the import fee (around $200 which includes the Canadian Tire inspection) and the GST. I had to do the provincial inspection and have the running lights installed, and once I got my paper work from the feds in the mail, I went to Canadian Tire and they did the inspection and filed the paper work. It wasn't much of an inspection - they check the odometer, the VIN and see that the daytime running lights are working.
A couple of weeks later, you get the sticker for the door of the car in the mail and you're done.
We brought in an Audi A4 cab a couple of years ago from Texas and that was easy too - very much easier to deal with Audi over Honda. Audi honours the warranty.
I bought a warranty for the Pilot through my local Honda dealer. They were very happy to sell it to me and I think it's a good deal. Because my Pilot only had 1600 miles on it, (it was a Honda corporate vehicle that sat in California at Honda's head office for 18 months) I was able to buy a "new car" warranty for $1700 and change that covers 5 years, 100,000 km, bumper to bumper including stuff like the Navigation system and heated seats. There is a deductible of $150 ($200 if I go somewhere besides the dealer that sold it to me) but the deductible is per visit, not per item, so I figured that was OK. I drove an Odyssey for 8 years from new and all I ever had done under warranty was brake work, so I'm hoping for the same good performance from the Pilot. However, I figured I saved so much money on this vehicle that it was still a great deal even with the extra money for the additional warranty.
I'm interested in the class action law suit against these manufacturers - the cancelled warranties are ridiculous.
Good luck to all who have to deal with Honda! It all works out fine in the end.
Toyota is on the RIV list (07s not 08s) so that means, in principal, we could buy a 07 Sienna but not an 08 in New England and bring it to Nova Scotia (easiest area for us to shop)
BUT what about:
- finding a dealer that will sell to us (does Toyota US have a nation wide rule not to sell to us? )
- will CDN Toyota dealers honor the warranty on 07s?
- how do we know what items have to be added to meet CDN specs (minivans seem different than passsenger cars) and how much these will add to the US price?
- can any of these be added in the US before going over the border?
- do all Canadian Tires have these items or can they get them within the 45 day allowance period?
- I was told the paperwork had to be at the border 72 hrs before now I see one has to have the vehicle there too??
- what are the real costs...6% taxes at border, ~$205 paperwork fee, $100 duty A/C, 8% taxes upon registering, the parts cost (TBA) but are there other costs beyond our time and the gas to bring it back and the gas for our other car down and back (we have family to stay with)?
I want to make sure I am doing a fair comparision. It is hard enough to make sure we cost out the same vehicle as models here include so many extras, where in the US, these have to be added to the LE FWD 7 passenger model to be equal.
Your comments are very much appreciated. :confuse:
I'm also interested in the class action law suit against these manufacturers - the cancelled warranties are ridiculous.
I just brought my 07 Sienna into Canada last week. The epilogue to my MSO saga is that I was able to convince the dealer to issue the MSO in my name (even though the bill of sale was in my friend's name), and everything went smooth at the border. Now I'm waiting for the RIV paperwork so I can do the Cdn Tire rubber stamp and get it registered.
The only thing (I think) you need to make sure the Sienna has is the daytime running lights. I'm pretty sure everything else is standard. I think it's easier getting an option that includes DRL, as you'll get lots of other goodies and you'll be paying a lot less in the end than getting some aftermarket option installed.
You'll need to fax the border your MSO or title in your name and a worksheet 72 hours prior to crossing. The vehicle doesn't need to be there.
As for models, it appears that in the States, the LE is kind of like our CE, and their XLE is kind of like our LE. We purchased an XLE with package #5, which is "almost" like our XLE (the only thing it doesn't have is the laser cruise), but for about $15,000 less than our XLE. If you go for the top of the line XLE Limited, with the Nav, backup camera, etc, you'll end up with a van that you can't even buy in Canada, yet still cheaper than the best you can buy here.
Two tidbits I've learned that might be useful for someone else to know:
1. If you get a friend or family member to purchase the vehicle on your behalf, you must either get the MSO in your name, or wait for the title, which can then be signed over to you. If you wait for the title, the dealer doesn't need to know anything about a Canadian being involved in the deal, which could be a show-stopper at some dealers. To avoid paying state sales taxes, your friend will NOT want to register the vehicle. Read the other posts about state sales taxes and do your research on the state you plan to purchase in. (I don't think NH as a sales tax.)
2. When you cross the border, the value of your vehicle kind of blows away your $400 allowance, so you might want to take it easy on the shopping while you're driving back.
Good luck on your quest!
Dan
So you can take title of a vehicle (if relative buys it) and not register it?
Thx!
Fariss
In order for your friend to get the title, does he have to register the vehicle? And do you know apprx. how long it takes for the title to arrive in the mail?
Thanks a lot!
- my assumption is that an out-of-state purchase is most likely to avoid paying state taxes;
- in Nevada, we were told that you just have to send the MSO to the main motor vehicle office in Carson City, and they would mail the title back in 5 to 6 weeks. If you want it sooner, they recommended couriering the MSO along with a prepaid courier envelope for a return of 7-10 days.
- there was no mention of sales taxes to get the title. This may not be the case in all states.
If anyone has any definitive information on this, please share!
Dan
Custom broker was recommended by transport company. Peninsula Custom Brokers, Fort Erie Ontario. They made the whole process a breeze. We were in personal contact throughout the whole process, in effect they were holding my hand. There seems to be a lot of angst on this board regarding the process of importing a car from the US. The few hundred bucks ($350) you'll spend on a custom broker will be the best money you can spend. Find the right car at the right price and they'll take care of the rest! The process doesn't have to be hard.Regarding state sales tax its a great benefit not to pay it. Here in California (sales tax 8.25%) Canadians don't pay sales tax. The process is simple. Purchase car from dealer in your name. Car is picked up by auto transport company (car is never driven on California roads - therefore no sales tax), cleared by custom broker and delivered to your Canadian address.
http://www.siennaclub.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=3772
(It seems to me that violates NAFTA and is totally illegal but maybe we'll see another class action.) :mad:
I refuse to buy a new truck or any new vehicle in Canada when such bully tactics are used so if anyone can tell me of a dealer that will sell to Canadians I'd greatly appreciate it.
Can you PM (fsabbagh@yahoo.com) the 5 or more dealers that are willing to sell a Volvo to Canadians? None seem to want to sell it to me. Maybe they don't like Quebecers?
Thanks!
Try calling dealers in the west, Washinton, Oregon, Cali, Idaho. Contact them by email, that way they won't hear your funny accent. Just kidding.
When the purchaser asks the dealer to put some name on the MSO, will they need to first verify the identity of that person, such as by mailing them forms to be signed if they are not present at the time?
I was under the impression that dealers won't care that the person dealing with them is Canadian as long as the bill of sale indicates that the sale is to an American person or address.
Question: to satisfy the 72 hour rule, could a cooperative dealer hypothetically fax their blank copy of MSO to the US customs BEFORE you pay for the vehicle? This sounds like a way to inspect the vehicle first before buying then immediately drive it back across the border after purchase. Or does a name have to appear on the MSO when it is faxed?
Is there a good, unbiased site that would be the equivalent of Consumer Reports?
Thanks.
This is a scam.
Subaru will honour the warranty (have to pay for warranty service and submit pre-approved for reimbursement; clearly some risk here). Subaru will also happily sell to Canadians. None of the Toyota / Honda crap.
Hope that helps...Just check specific dealer inv. and compare 2008 vs. 2007... Also more optional eq. included for 2008.
Nevertheless...still about $30,000 over USA$
We are in Toronto
"When the purchaser asks the dealer to put some name on the MSO, will they need to first verify the identity of that person, such as by mailing them forms to be signed if they are not present at the time?"
I don't think too many dealers will want to put a Canadian name/address on the MSO, unless they've been dealing with that Canadian since the beginning. That's why you might want to wait for the title if the dealer isn't cooperative.
"Question: to satisfy the 72 hour rule, could a cooperative dealer hypothetically fax their blank copy of MSO to the US customs BEFORE you pay for the vehicle? This sounds like a way to inspect the vehicle first before buying then immediately drive it back across the border after purchase. Or does a name have to appear on the MSO when it is faxed?"
The dealer could complete a copied MSO and fax that to the border to satisfy the 72 hours rule (that's actually what my dealer did, and it's a good thing, since they first issued it in my friend's name), but I highly doubt any dealer would do that prior to receiving payment. If you're concerned about inspecting the vehicle first, I suggest you make two trips. With brand new vehicles, there should be less risk that there will be any hidden surprises. Mind you, I was pretty nervous sending a foreign dealer a cheque for a vehicle sight-unseen.
bodble2,
MSO is Manufacturer's Statement of Origin. It's actually used for dealer to dealer transfers and for registering the original owner with the state. If you do a Google on +MSO +"Manufacturer's Statement of Origin", you'll find out more than you'd ever want to know.
msteve,
That's a really cool tidbit on the Sienna DRLs. I don't know for sure, but that's probably a $100/$200 Crappy Tire/Toyota touch. :-)
Dan
"Nevertheless...still about $30,000 over USA$"
That sucks! But 911 is way beyond my budget anyway. Now, maybe Cayman.....
Realistically, I'm hoping BMW would follow suit with the 3 series and X3.
Mercedes, on new C-class has optioned the car out so that fully equipped with Nav it is about $52 as opposed to $58-59 last year...so IT IS coming!
Does anyone have any insight they can offer?
I was thinking more about using an out-of-state US relative's particulars -- would they need to mail or fax forms for them to sign?
And what about a Canadian name with a US address, would they go for that?
I suggest that you call the border about any specific questions. They are surprisingly helpful, and have likely seen every possible scenario, since they apparently do hundreds per week.
You can pretty much bet that Toyota is NOT going to issue you a compliance letter. However, my understanding is that the RIV listing should be updated with more '08s in a few weeks. It's not just Honda and Toyota that are slow to submit their paperwork on US models to Transport Canada!
Hang in there. You don't want a paperweight in your driveway, and your brother-in-law probably doesn't want two Highlanders!
Please look at section SECTION 5 - MULTIPURPOSE PASSENGER VEHICLES on the http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/importation/VAFUS/list/VAFUS.pdf
cheers
Ben
Thx.
If you relly want the confirmation from RIV.
1/. Call RIV
2/. Give them the exact model/year/ of VAN/SUV that you want to import
3/. Ask the agent to give you the file number for the confirmation
Cheers
Ben
would mind sharing the "Shipping Vehicle" company?
Thanks
Ben
Great people