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I would like if someone can help me in this scenario
I have my brother living in New Jersey, he is willing to help me all the way in buying a new car (and screw the greedy Canadian automakers and dealers...). I may not be able to pay the whole price of the car in cash upfront so how we can get advantage of his US residency and established credit record to get the car financed through the US dealership then transfer the car into my name and import it to Canada.
thanks
A pissed off canadian
I have a question regarding to the MSO when crossing the border. Were you able to pass customs with the MSO in your name and your friend's US address? Did the customs people ask you to show US identification with the same US address?
I am trying to do the same and my dealer agree to put my name on the MSO but insist he must put my relative's US address on the MSO. I don't have any US identification with my relative's US address so want to make sure I can do so with my Canadian ID.
Tony
My suggestion -- arrange a personal loan in Canada. That way your debt is in Canadian dollars and you don't get snagged by currency risk.
Good luck!
This is my first post, just found this forum. Thanks everyone.
Carl
I live in the US and my parents are in Canada. They wanted to purchase a new 08 Rav4. My local dealership was willing to sell the car to them as long as they could put a US address on the sales form. I was planning on using an out of state PO Box so we could avoid paying taxes.
Everything was going great until he called me yesterday stating that Toyota had sent a letter to all dealers stating they could not sell to Canadians. Fine, then sell the car to me and I would resell it to my parents. He was fine with that but stated we could no longer user the out of state PO Box since Toyota would check to ensure it was registered in that state. So the only way he will sell it to me now is by using my local address which means I would have to pay sales tax!
Any way of doing this so I don't have to pay sales tax? Go to an out of town dealer perhaps?
I am waiting for Honda US to submit their 2008 passenger vehicles to Transport Canada. Then Transport Canada can update the list that the RIV uses to approve Form2. I understand that many...many people have purchased 2008s and have been allowed into the Country based on the temporary - intransit permit.
Last week someone on this site indicated the file would be updated this week.
The RIV now tells me that my file will be on hold until Honda US does its thing and that I should not be driving the car even though I have a valid in-transit plate. They still insisted that I keep the car off the road until the file is updated!
What have the rest of you folks been told??? My dealer wants to issue me another in-transit to get around the problem. He has also indicated that Honda US contacted them last Thursday October 11 and will not allow them to sell to Canadians any more. Needless to say this is upsetting to everyone involved. It appears that they had been selling 10- 15 cars a week to Canadians.
Thanks again Ben!!!
I was lucky in that my dealer elected to make out the MSO using both my name and my Canadian address. It appears, according to some recent posts, that crossing the border won't be a problem as long as the MSO is in your name. When I crossed, they surprised me by asking for the bill of sale, which wasn't in my name. I told him and he said that was fine.
Mind you, I haven't yet got my RIV paperwork, so it's not yet registered in Canada. I do have a private bill of sale from my US friend, and hopefully they'll find that sufficient for the Canadian registration. You might want to talk to a registry about the requirements on the bill of sale to get your vehicle registered in Canada.
Dan
the Toyota dealer cannot sell you a car using an out of state address to avoid sales tax anyway.
If you are a resident of the state,you pay taxes in that state.
I was told by the border agent that completing the online payment is the fastest way to get the inspection form. So I immediately processed my payment, assuming that RIV would send me the inspection form and we'd go from there. After a week I called them and they asked if I had sent them my recall letter yet. Apparently, this has to be done at the same time as making the payment, and there is no indication of that on the online payment pages.
I also asked a registry about driving with temporary or in-transit tags. Apparently, that's a bad thing to do and we're going to have to park until we can get all the proper paperwork in place. oops! :shades:
So, it appears the fastest way to get your US vehicle on the road is to: 1. go to www.RIV.ca once you've got Form 1 from the border; and 2. fax your recall clearance letter to the RIV at the same time at 1-888-642-9899. Once you get the inspection form, you've got 45 days to get it inspected and registered.
Dan
A few days later I found out that the 2008 car was not on the "admissible" list. But it was not on the "inadmissible" list. So now I am in limbo.
Note: If you supply your email address the RIV will send you form 2 by e-mail, that is if your car is on the "admissible" list.
The main issue is that are government departments seem to be on the defensive when dealing with the car manufacturers. These departments should tell the these big boys to stop playing games. They are wasting everyones time and money trying to protect a market that will soon disappear if they don't get with the program.
One item that impressed me though, that thru this whole thing every Government employee I dealt with was extremely proffessional and ppleasant to deal with.
I am trying to import an 08 toyota highlander and once my relative talked about the recall letter, they turned down the deal.
Could anyone tells me how to get a recall letter from toyota, and any dealer that is willing to deal with you.
email erictong@shaw.ca (<- Canadian email, safe to send)
Are there going to be any problems getting reimbursed?
Is there a chance of Subaru not honoring the warranty?
will a canadian dealer refuse this warranty work?
Thanks
I’ve been following this forum for quite a while now, and I can feel the level of anger and frustration of the member of this forum, also I noticed that there’s kind of apathy here, nobody is willing to get a positive move and do something about it only one member that asked us to write to our MP’s
Let us prepare a letter, we all will get involved, everyone with his opinion on it, and let us make noise and send it everywhere to MP’s, to ministers, to newspaper, to those greedy Canadian automakers, to NAFTA, to free trade organizations, to judges, even to our PM. Why sitting like a lame ducks , let’s challenge their practices in courts, where’s our charter of rights, why they force the US dealers to discriminate Canadians because of their citizenship.i’m working my butt off for my money , and it’s my right to stretch it to the maximum and when I’m importing a car from US, I follow all the laws and regulations set by my government and I pay all the taxes and duties nothing illegal according to my government so why I have to face all kind of dirty practices by some greedy companies who want to suck our blood dry. Any legal advises is appreciated any lawyers here that can help us and we will be very grateful. Come’n people let us make some noise .
Have any of you heard back from your MPs?
So if any manufacturer is refusing to give out the recall letter, write to RIV about the details and ask them to make an exception for something that is impossible to get.
It's something to keep in mind, because it does effect resale.
Life would be much simpler if the readout was all digital and had a miles/km switch as some cars do.
The real issue to some of us is that Honda US has not yet submitted the paperwork to Transport Canada to declare that the 2008 Honda Passenger vehicles meet Canadian Safety Standards. The Transportation department then updates the list that the RIV uses.
The major flaw is that the Transport department operates in a passive role to the detriment of the Canadian consumer.
The way I see it is that if:
1) all 2007 Honda passenger cars that were made for use in the U.S. have all passed very stringent U.S State Safety Standards.
2) all 2007 Honda passenger cars that were Manufactured for use in the US even the States of New York and Alaska have been deemed to be acceptable by Transport Canada. They require the owner to go to Canadian Tire and install Daytime Running lights and possibly a children’s tether latch. That is the only difference between the Safety Standards of 50 US states and Canada.
3) All 2008 Honda passenger cars that were Manufactured for use in the United States have passed all the safety standards of all 50 states! As a matter of fact the new Honda Civic EXL features Daytime running lights and Outboard lower Anchors and tethers for children and the ability to switch from miles to kilometers with the press of a button.
4) all 2008 Honda Passenger cars that were manufactured for use in Canada and those Manufactured for US in the US have a couple of minor differences that are spelled out in the Owners Manual... These were the same differences in 2007. (Windshield washer reservoir size and indicators and labels on the dash are as "pictures" to accommodate bilingualism rather than just the words in English. (Note to self: they even have the same owners manual)
5) therefore if A = C and B = C then A = B.
Why can't the Transport Department work in this proactive fashion!
Am I overlooking something?
Dan
Even the dealership is refused to print out anything regarding the recall ...
Would you mind sharing with me the Volvo dealer names that are willing to sell to Canadians? I don't seem to have any luck with all the Honda/Acura dealers I have contacted. Now I need to look at other alternatives. Please email aladinl@hotmail.com.
My brother wants to import a new Toyota Camry into Canada. Has anyone (Canadian) successfully bought a new car from an American Toyota dealer within the last few weeks?
Tx.
I think that the first good step will be to post here correct addresses of people and organizations we need to lobby (NAFTA, MPs, newspapers, PM etc...). It will certainly facilitate everyone's task.
This corresponds to the amount they include as a cost in every vehicle to give leases that attractive 3.9% rate over the realsitic 8@ market rate for autu loans. Will people ever wake up about the hidden up front costs (in this case $3000 for cost of financing) hidden into each auto when leasing?????
Thanks for the info. Very Helpful. I have a couple of questions if you don't mind responding.
Can you confirm the following transaction Details. I believe all this was done remotely since your brother is in Toronto. a) Select the RX 350 remotely and negotiate the price b) Make initial deposit with the dealer c) Wire the remaining funds to the dealers bank account d)Dealer couriers the Bill of Sale and Vehicle Title and other DMV forms to be signed by the buyer e) Buyer couriers the documents back to the Dealership f) Transport company picks up the car along with the Bill of Sale, Title Document and Recall clearance from dealership g) Custom company clears the custom forms and delivers them to your residence
Please confirm the above process before I engage the custom brokers and the transport company.
Thanks for your help.