For those who thought I was just upset about being "passed by a GT" or those who just didn't believe the water leak problem. My car has been Lemoned by the BBB. Ford has completed the buy back worksheet and issued the dealer the package for vehicle replacement. For those that do have this problem, make sure you get as much paperwork as you can supporting the damage claim. Just don't waste your time with Ford they will NOT help you. Contact the BBB it took 6 mons 9 days, but I did eventually win.
Sorry to hear of your woes...what state are you in? Here in Florida our lemon law is pretty solid. Write a personal letter to Ford's CEO, outline the problem, attempted resolution, people you talked to at Ford, and final outcome (involving BBB). Also contact your local media affiliates, they love this kind of story. Good luck.
Just took Mustang survey, sent to me by email by Ford.
List of things I would want to see, in no particular order:
1. Locking gas tank lid that opens from the inside.
2. Aux input on the stereo
3. Satellite radio
4. Perfomance options offered by Ford: a) cold intake b) supercharger c) perfomance exhaust d) perfomance tires e) better brakes
Would be willing to pay as much as $10,000 more for performance features. Don't care a whit for cosmetic adornments, like hood scoops or stripes.
5) Nicer wheels (like the $1400 optional aluminum wheels on the Vette Z06 -- no chrome paleez!)
6) More colors to choose from (better paint quality)
7) But the most important improvement, by far: independent rear suspension!!
They asked some detailed questions about which engine options I would prefer and be willing to pay an extra grand for. Seems like they're thinking of offering a 370 HP twin turbo V6 that gets better mileage than the 4.6 liter V-8. Yum yum. :shades:
4. Go to the Ford Racing Performance Parts site. They have all your requests for sale and all carry a full warranty.
5. See #4 above.
6. Ford has killed off at least 2 colors and added 2 or more each year of the new Mustang's existence. That's not enough for ya?
7. Keep dreaming. But don't be surprised if an SE Mustang has an IRS shortly after the IRS equipped Camaro and Challenger arrive.
I'm pretty sure the Duratec35 has already been announced for the Mustang in '09 so a twin turbo V6, which the 35 is built for, is not out of the question IMO.
4. Want Ford to sell a car w/ these options, w/ full warrantee. Am strictly a bone stock user.
5. Colors offered are standard. Would like the option to customize colors -- remember the metallic sky blue of the '57-8 Eldorado? Paint quality is below average (pits, silver color is dull).
7. They must be thinking of offering independent suspension at extra cost, because they asked if I was willing to pay extra for it if available. The solid rear axle is the single worst mechanical design flaw of the car, imo.
Round-spoked 18" wheels suck, look like wagon wheels. Don't match the square lines of the car at all, imo. Would like to see some tasteful wheels, e.g., like those on the GT500 or C6Z06 Vette.
They also asked if I would mind if the new engine was built by a foreign company (they gave a list: Mazda, Toyota, etc.). Hell yes, I'd mind! Car is already being built on a Mazda line. If it has a Mazda engine, why even call it a "Ford"? :shades:
The V6 sounded interesting, but still love the droan of the V8. How about a Shelby motor/gearbox option? I like the shaker hood so that would catch my eye. Not a big fan of the current spoiler, wish something along the lines of a CDC/Xenon design was an option. Also wish Ford would go to electric fans, more efficient and puts more hp in the back.
Inside would like the aluminum pedals like the GTO comes with. How about a 160 speedo option?
Last but not least a cloaking device to hide from our dedicated law enforcement comunity............
4. Want Ford to sell a car w/ these options, w/ full warrantee. Am strictly a bone stock user.
Well, you could buy a GT500 or Shelby GT for some "stock" goodies now if you want to get technical. I'm a bone stock user myself but I've watched some shows where they bolted some of the aftermarket stuff on to an '05 Mustang and a 5 year old could do it. Let's just say I am now intrigued.
5. Customize colors from the factory? Good luck with that!
Round-spoked 18" wheels suck, look like wagon wheels.
I'm assuming you're talking about the "Bullitt" style wheels? I have the other 18" wheels on my '06, often called "fanblades", and I find them rather nice. They are the wheels Ford used on the concept Mustang back in '03 or '04. IMO Ford does have a wheel for everyone right now. That's what the Mustang is all about. What it's not about is customization from the factory.
Hell yes, I'd mind! Car is already being built on a Mazda line
I second that! Technically AAI is joint owned and not a Mazda plant. Ford has built vehicles there for quite some time now. I had the other car that's built there for a couple of years before I replaced it with the Mustang. It's amazing that two such different vehicles can roll down the same line.
Mine is an '06, has 13,000 miles, been groaning in turns since 6,000 miles. I tried syn lube and moly, but I suppose it needs an adjustment or different friction discs. I'd rather live with the noise than have other guy's hands in there. Has anyone had any real consequences such as a lock up or fragmentation?
I was under the impression that the radiator fan in the 2005+ Mustangs is electric. I'm pretty sure mine is but I never really dove in there to check for sure.
Okay, so I'm the village fool.....one of those things were the brain doesn't accept what the eyes see.
Which brings up another question. Driving in South Florida with the air on, after turning the vehicle off, I never hear the fan running as I have with other electric fan cooled cars I've owned. My bud who also has an 06 GT and son who had an 06 GT and now an 07 don't ever remembering hearing theirs run either.
I'm looking to get a new car this year, and now that I have a good job I'm ready to upgrade my 2002 V6 for a new GT, but there's a hitch. My wife and I are expecting our first child this fall. Does anyone have any experience with a child seat in the Mustang? I know it has anchors, but is it easy to get the seat in and out? Is it easy to get the kid in and out?
I think you'll find that even if the seat gets attached, there simply is not enough room between the back of the front seat and the rear seat for a child seat.
not to mention that you'll absolutely hate getting the kid back in there.
I'll ask my son, he puts his 2 rugrats back there in their seats (4/2 years old. Upside is my 12 and a 1/2 y/o sits in the back behind my wife but they (the wives) can't be over 5'5"..........
Don't listen to the naysayers cowbell. I put my two boys (1 year and 3 years old) in the back of my '06 GT every day to take them to daycare. It's a short trip and that's all I recommend putting the kids in the back for. Especially when they get older.
The car seats were very easy to install and fit just fine. Both seats are Cosco Alpha Omega full size seats for your reference. As they get older I'll graduate them to smaller booster seats (even thought the AO does triple as a booster) so their legs can stretch out more as they grow.
The 1 year old was just under 7 months old when I bought the Mustang so we did have a rear facing carrier back there for a while. DO NOT TRY TO PUT YOUR KID IN A FIXED REAR FACING SEAT!!! Use the carrier at all times because it will be impossible to get him/her in and out of a fixed rear facing seat. You're not supposed to use the carrier past a certain age/weight but we had no choice. It was still safer than no seat at all and you shouldn't turn them around until they've reached a certain age and weight.
With the rear facing carrier (behind the passenger seat) my wife did have to sit a little more upright than she would have liked but it wasn't dangerous to do so and, again, short trips were the key. Now that both are forward facing, everyone can sit normally and comfortably.
I also recommend that you do not get the power passenger seat because it's painfully slow (I don't have it on that side myself) and being able to slide the seat forward manually is a big time saver. I never power the driver seat forward to get my older boy behind me. He's lower maintenance and I basically just toss him back there then lean in and buckle him up. The I have to get one foot in the back well to hold the 1 year old in the seat and buckle him in. Hopefully that phase passes soon. :sick:
Let me know if you have any more questions as I'd be happy to answer them.
Also of note, the 3 year old calls my Redfire '06 GT "Lightning McQueen". Kind of cool! :shades:
I was driving in a parking lot slowly and i heard it and i stopped by ford they drove it heard it and put it up on the rack poured a little bottle of clutchpack conditioner in the rearend and it didnt make that noise again since .i also have the 06 gt torch red 15.000 miles 5 speed i love it .
Thanks. The friction modifier I used was a Dodge or Carquest product. Ford conditioner is probably more suitable. One mod I'm very pleased with are my lower Ford springs. The ride is still comfortable and the hobby-horse action during shifting went away. This I recommend especially for manual shift GT's.
I drive my kids every day and that includes my daughter in the car seat. I have had no problems or complaints. I have even done a couple trips from NC to NY. Put a portable DVD in between the seats and your all set! The last thing I need to see in my neighborhood is another minivan!
Most folks I've run into who put their kids in the back say the same thing. In fact, the kids love it because they think it's a race car and love the sound of the engine/exhaust.
A convertible might be a different story though. I'd imagine it gets pretty windy back there with the top down. I know it did in the '87 vert my girlfriend at the time had but I don't know what the current model is like.
I would imagine the folks who say it's ok are not used to using a minivan or SUV. If the mustang is the only thing you've used then of course it seems fine because there is nothing to compare it to.
Thanks for all the feedback, everyone. It's good to know it can be done, even if there might be a lot of bending and twisting involved.
And I was also thinking that now would be the time to get the Mustang, because by the time I get a new car, the kid would be getting to size that comfort would become an issue. Plus I'm 6' and my wife is 5'10", so we would usually have the seats pretty far back.
I would imagine the folks who say it's ok are not used to using a minivan or SUV.
I have to disagree. I think they are people who do have a minivan or SUV as their second vehicle. Our second vehicle is a 2006 Explorer BTW. I had a 2004 Mazda6 S before the Mustang and it was a lot easier getting the kids in there. But, while the 6 is a great car, it is nowhere near as fun as the Mustang. The decision to trade was easy and I never regret it.
Interestingly, the 6 was bought because I was driving the crap-box '96 Civic coupe my wife bought before we married and I could not stand putting the kid, only one at the time, in the back of that thing. I wanted four doors ASAP. Funny how you'll change your mind for a particular car.
One other thing, my wife drove an Escape while I drove that Civic so an SUV was still our second vehicle while we had the Civic coupe.
Plus I'm 6' and my wife is 5'10", so we would usually have the seats pretty far back.
I too am 6' and my wife is 5'8" so we have the seats nearly all the way back as well. The boys won't fit back there forever but I'll have something else by then while the Mustang gets pushed to weekend only duties. At least that's the plan anyway.
I have changed my hood to a ram air hood. I would like to find out if I can change the air intake to ram air and if I do will that void my warrenty? Or can I change it to cool air intake and will that void my warrenty?
Mods do not "void" your warranty. Obviously, the new parts are not covered by warranty. In addition, an damaged that occures to a "factory" part that is caused by the modded part is not covered under warranty.
Nothing "voids" your warranty. You can however have damage not covered by warranty as I described above.
I read that Mustang sales are tanking lately. (I attribute this to winter weather, which often affects RWD/coupe sales. But some journalists are decidedly more pessimistic.)
But if Ford wants to invigorate Mustang sales, I think it should offer a 4cyl base engine.
Remember, the 1960s Mustang was a success because women liked it, and purchased it in droves, with the base 6cyl. Not a powerful mill, but peppy enough. And the unlamented Mustang II was actually a huge seller, and its engines were tuned for economy. But how many women buy the Mustang now, with its thirsty 4.0L 6cyl? Does Ford even market the stang to women?
The redesigned Mazda6 will have a 2.5L 4cyl. Ford should pump that up to 185 hp and put it under the stang's hood. Zero to 60 times will rise to 9 seconds or so, but who cares?
Doesn't it delight the senses to imagine the Mustang stealing sales from the Civic coupe???
but, seriously, how could they not see the decline coming. they announced that they are redesigning it, so, on one hand, you have folks waiting for that. On the other hand, they still sold almost 15k mustangs last month. There are plenty of cars out there that don't sell that much in a whole year.
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Well, I'm waiting for the redesign too. I want that new 3.5L multivalve 6cyl. (Or is it 3.6L ??) The 4.0L is decent....but the stang must enter the 21st century.
FoMoCo should consider dropping in either the motor from the T-Bird, or supercharging a 6. Anybody in Dearborn only has to look across either ocean to see the successes in pumping up smaller motors w/o sacrificing CAFE numbers (too much). Also the 6 v. 8 helps with the insurance companies.
Ladies would less intimidated and the guys still get a kick in the pants when the SC/Turbo does its job.
i own a 06 gt 5speedwith 1200miles on it from day 1 car made noise i drove right back to dealer . made app to look at it but ford closed the dealer the next week. put car a way for winter .just took car to another ford dealer.they heard noise but do not know what it is .they called me and said they test drove a 07 gt and it makes the same noise.to me this is crap does any body out there have the same problm and was it fixed
Go to the Blue Oval News website and from there you should be able to navigate to the tech forum (actual Ford service technicians run it). Look around for any previous discussion or originate a new thread. Pretty good info.
I 've decided to order a GT (or higher ) for 2008. I don't want to speak to dealers yet. I have read and seen some photos with sheet metal changes, possibly more horsepower( a new V-8) for 2009 , but nothing for 2008.I like the current body as is. I assume it will be mostly color option changes and possibly some minor trim details for 2008. Haven't read more about a factory Boss 302 which was promised down the road.
Does anyone have DEFINITIVE details about next year ? Please spare me from speculation , thank you.
My V8 GT Premium Mustang has been letter perfect and a joy. I look out over my hood at all those V6 Pony's with disdain: Not the same car, not the same engine, not the same transmission, not the same suspension, not the same exhaust, not the same brakes, not the same wheels, not the same tires, and, in most instances, not the same interior or audio. :shades:
I am hoping to get a little more educated about my Mustang.
There is a light on the dash, which is blinking, non-stop. It is the anti-theft signal, and remains on after we shut the car down for the night, in the garage, unlocked.
The local Ford dealer claims that this is completely normal, to get this once-a-second or so blinking light.
I read the owner's manual, and it provided two ways to shut this blinking light down; in our case, neither worked.
Perhaps one of you can shed a little light (pun intended) on this for me?
In NJ, the PATS system (Passive Anti-Theft) entitles you to a 15% savings on the comp part of your auto policy. The catch is that the car has to have a visual deterrant informing a would be theift that the vehicle is protected. Hence the light. Now why would you want to shut it off?
PS. the whether the doors are locked or not has nothing to do with it blinking.
Nothing personal towards you with the CR thing. I just learned that the Mustang was rated by CR as being below average for reliability. I don't subscribe to any of their methods and I don't hear of too many problems with the Mustang so I'm stumped as to how they came to that conclusion.
Back to your issue. I'm not sure why you would want to turn it off actually and I know I don't want to turn it off so I can't really help. The other response to your original post is more or less what I would have said about it. It's not blinking while you are driving is it? If it is, then you do have a problem.
I gots a 2006 GT - not yet a year old. Battery drained to dead after a winter week w/out driving in my garage. Once jumped and driven, it would then be dead within 3 days of non-driving. What gives?
The internal voltage regulator inside the altenator may be bad or you have a bad cell in the battery. Take it to an Autozone or another large parts chain and they should be able to load test it free on the vehicle.
Another possible cause. If you have the upgraded anti-theft system it may be draining your battery faster than normal too. You do get a larger battery with that system but it still drains fast.
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List of things I would want to see, in no particular order:
1. Locking gas tank lid that opens from the inside.
2. Aux input on the stereo
3. Satellite radio
4. Perfomance options offered by Ford:
a) cold intake
b) supercharger
c) perfomance exhaust
d) perfomance tires
e) better brakes
Would be willing to pay as much as $10,000 more for performance features. Don't care a whit for cosmetic adornments, like hood scoops or stripes.
5) Nicer wheels (like the $1400 optional aluminum wheels on the Vette Z06 -- no chrome paleez!)
6) More colors to choose from (better paint quality)
7) But the most important improvement, by far: independent rear suspension!!
They asked some detailed questions about which engine options I would prefer and be willing to pay an extra grand for. Seems like they're thinking of offering a 370 HP twin turbo V6 that gets better mileage than the 4.6 liter V-8. Yum yum. :shades:
1. Still not available.
2. Standard for '07.
3. Optional Sirius has been available since MY06
4. Go to the Ford Racing Performance Parts site. They have all your requests for sale and all carry a full warranty.
5. See #4 above.
6. Ford has killed off at least 2 colors and added 2 or more each year of the new Mustang's existence. That's not enough for ya?
7. Keep dreaming. But don't be surprised if an SE Mustang has an IRS shortly after the IRS equipped Camaro and Challenger arrive.
I'm pretty sure the Duratec35 has already been announced for the Mustang in '09 so a twin turbo V6, which the 35 is built for, is not out of the question IMO.
5. Colors offered are standard. Would like the option to customize colors -- remember the metallic sky blue of the '57-8 Eldorado? Paint quality is below average (pits, silver color is dull).
7. They must be thinking of offering independent suspension at extra cost, because they asked if I was willing to pay extra for it if available. The solid rear axle is the single worst mechanical design flaw of the car, imo.
Round-spoked 18" wheels suck, look like wagon wheels. Don't match the square lines of the car at all, imo. Would like to see some tasteful wheels, e.g., like those on the GT500 or C6Z06 Vette.
They also asked if I would mind if the new engine was built by a foreign company (they gave a list: Mazda, Toyota, etc.). Hell yes, I'd mind! Car is already being built on a Mazda line. If it has a Mazda engine, why even call it a "Ford"? :shades:
Inside would like the aluminum pedals like the GTO comes with. How about a 160 speedo option?
Last but not least a cloaking device to hide from our dedicated law enforcement comunity............
Well, you could buy a GT500 or Shelby GT for some "stock" goodies now if you want to get technical. I'm a bone stock user myself but I've watched some shows where they bolted some of the aftermarket stuff on to an '05 Mustang and a 5 year old could do it. Let's just say I am now intrigued.
5. Customize colors from the factory? Good luck with that!
Round-spoked 18" wheels suck, look like wagon wheels.
I'm assuming you're talking about the "Bullitt" style wheels? I have the other 18" wheels on my '06, often called "fanblades", and I find them rather nice. They are the wheels Ford used on the concept Mustang back in '03 or '04. IMO Ford does have a wheel for everyone right now. That's what the Mustang is all about. What it's not about is customization from the factory.
Hell yes, I'd mind! Car is already being built on a Mazda line
I second that! Technically AAI is joint owned and not a Mazda plant. Ford has built vehicles there for quite some time now. I had the other car that's built there for a couple of years before I replaced it with the Mustang. It's amazing that two such different vehicles can roll down the same line.
http://www.themustangnews.com/tech/st-0706_ozirs.htm
The survey asked if you would pay $200 more (as in if the car itself were $200 more) for IRS.
Mark.
The V6 doesn't have electric fans?
Which brings up another question. Driving in South Florida with the air on, after turning the vehicle off, I never hear the fan running as I have with other electric fan cooled cars I've owned. My bud who also has an 06 GT and son who had an 06 GT and now an 07 don't ever remembering hearing theirs run either.
Sorry.
I think you'll find that even if the seat gets attached, there simply is not enough room between the back of the front seat and the rear seat for a child seat.
not to mention that you'll absolutely hate getting the kid back in there.
Mark.
The car seats were very easy to install and fit just fine. Both seats are Cosco Alpha Omega full size seats for your reference. As they get older I'll graduate them to smaller booster seats (even thought the AO does triple as a booster) so their legs can stretch out more as they grow.
The 1 year old was just under 7 months old when I bought the Mustang so we did have a rear facing carrier back there for a while. DO NOT TRY TO PUT YOUR KID IN A FIXED REAR FACING SEAT!!! Use the carrier at all times because it will be impossible to get him/her in and out of a fixed rear facing seat. You're not supposed to use the carrier past a certain age/weight but we had no choice. It was still safer than no seat at all and you shouldn't turn them around until they've reached a certain age and weight.
With the rear facing carrier (behind the passenger seat) my wife did have to sit a little more upright than she would have liked but it wasn't dangerous to do so and, again, short trips were the key. Now that both are forward facing, everyone can sit normally and comfortably.
I also recommend that you do not get the power passenger seat because it's painfully slow (I don't have it on that side myself) and being able to slide the seat forward manually is a big time saver. I never power the driver seat forward to get my older boy behind me. He's lower maintenance and I basically just toss him back there then lean in and buckle him up. The I have to get one foot in the back well to hold the 1 year old in the seat and buckle him in. Hopefully that phase passes soon. :sick:
Let me know if you have any more questions as I'd be happy to answer them.
Also of note, the 3 year old calls my Redfire '06 GT "Lightning McQueen". Kind of cool! :shades:
One mod I'm very pleased with are my lower Ford springs. The ride is still comfortable and the hobby-horse action during shifting went away. This I recommend especially for manual shift GT's.
Most folks I've run into who put their kids in the back say the same thing. In fact, the kids love it because they think it's a race car and love the sound of the engine/exhaust.
A convertible might be a different story though. I'd imagine it gets pretty windy back there with the top down. I know it did in the '87 vert my girlfriend at the time had but I don't know what the current model is like.
And I was also thinking that now would be the time to get the Mustang, because by the time I get a new car, the kid would be getting to size that comfort would become an issue. Plus I'm 6' and my wife is 5'10", so we would usually have the seats pretty far back.
I have to disagree. I think they are people who do have a minivan or SUV as their second vehicle. Our second vehicle is a 2006 Explorer BTW. I had a 2004 Mazda6 S before the Mustang and it was a lot easier getting the kids in there. But, while the 6 is a great car, it is nowhere near as fun as the Mustang. The decision to trade was easy and I never regret it.
Interestingly, the 6 was bought because I was driving the crap-box '96 Civic coupe my wife bought before we married and I could not stand putting the kid, only one at the time, in the back of that thing. I wanted four doors ASAP. Funny how you'll change your mind for a particular car.
One other thing, my wife drove an Escape while I drove that Civic so an SUV was still our second vehicle while we had the Civic coupe.
I too am 6' and my wife is 5'8" so we have the seats nearly all the way back as well. The boys won't fit back there forever but I'll have something else by then while the Mustang gets pushed to weekend only duties. At least that's the plan anyway.
saw a new cali special, same basic colors. it was sweet!
Nothing "voids" your warranty. You can however have damage not covered by warranty as I described above.
Mark.
But if Ford wants to invigorate Mustang sales, I think it should offer a 4cyl base engine.
Remember, the 1960s Mustang was a success because women liked it, and purchased it in droves, with the base 6cyl. Not a powerful mill, but peppy enough. And the unlamented Mustang II was actually a huge seller, and its engines were tuned for economy. But how many women buy the Mustang now, with its thirsty 4.0L 6cyl? Does Ford even market the stang to women?
The redesigned Mazda6 will have a 2.5L 4cyl. Ford should pump that up to 185 hp and put it under the stang's hood. Zero to 60 times will rise to 9 seconds or so, but who cares?
Doesn't it delight the senses to imagine the Mustang stealing sales from the Civic coupe???
all automatic 6-cyl models are for women. ;b
but, seriously, how could they not see the decline coming. they announced that they are redesigning it, so, on one hand, you have folks waiting for that. On the other hand, they still sold almost 15k mustangs last month. There are plenty of cars out there that don't sell that much in a whole year.
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Ladies would less intimidated and the guys still get a kick in the pants when the SC/Turbo does its job.
Does anyone have DEFINITIVE details about next year ? Please spare me from speculation , thank you.
I am hoping to get a little more educated about my Mustang.
There is a light on the dash, which is blinking, non-stop. It is the anti-theft signal, and remains on after we shut the car down for the night, in the garage, unlocked.
The local Ford dealer claims that this is completely normal, to get this once-a-second or so blinking light.
I read the owner's manual, and it provided two ways to shut this blinking light down; in our case, neither worked.
Perhaps one of you can shed a little light (pun intended) on this for me?
Thanks.
PS. the whether the doors are locked or not has nothing to do with it blinking.
Mark.
I'm not saying you did that denniss. Just thinking out loud.
So much for a nice, civil, helpful forum.
Back to your issue. I'm not sure why you would want to turn it off actually and I know I don't want to turn it off so I can't really help. The other response to your original post is more or less what I would have said about it. It's not blinking while you are driving is it? If it is, then you do have a problem.