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For 36 months, 15K miles, money rate of 0.00173, 60% residual
For 39 months, 15K miles, money rate of 0.00175, 59% residual
For 42 months, 15K miles, money rate of 0.00175, 57% residual
For 12K miles the money rate remains the same but the residuals increase by a percent. These are the base rates from Infiniti Financial Services. Tustin Infiniti initially added 0.00035 to these rates - was able to negotiate the increase away.
M35 - 45 cars
M35 Sport - 119 cars
M35 AWD - 37 cars
M45 - 78 cars
M45 Sport - 127 cars
Some dealers sold quite a few. Will be interesting to see what the April sales numbers will be. I'm guessing that they will beat March's.
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Enjoy your car!
Let's see: Days - April -30, May - 31, June -30, July -19th "could be your lucky day." If it comes in sooner more the better!
The sales manager at the Infiniti store here was with Lexus for 12 years during which time he said Lexus had to buy back two cars. Last year he worked for MB ... and they had to buy back seven cars!
I bought my Infiniti because I like everything about it ... the way it looks, the way it drives/handles, etc. I drove the new GS and everything about it was first class ... but it wasn't fun to drive. I'm a driver, not a rider. I had a '94 Q45 ~ bought IT because it was immensely more fun to drive than the LS. De ja vu all over again.
Agree, however, with an earlier post that Infiniti has been unable to compete with the Lexus LS and until it does deliver a true competitor for the LS it will remain a second tier luxury brand to some. And until BMW dresses up its cars and gives them some "polish" (the interior of the 5-series is ghastly and with anything less than the V8 it's a slug) in MY opinion it's a third tier luxury brand. The 7-series is, however, a worthy competitor for the LS. Bart
I agree, however, with an earlier post that Infiniti has been unable to compete with the Lexus LS and until it does deliver a true competitor for the LS it will remain a second tier luxury brand to some.
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I think you might be wrong about this. IMO, Lexus did so well early on primarily because of the absolutely glowing reviews given the LS400. I read those reviews, as many others did, and became a believer. Infiniti never got universally blown away reviews from the mainstream press until now. The reviewers from papers all over the country are absolutely astounded by this car. Much like the reviewers for the first LS400 and early BMW 5 series. This kind of press is creating a great new image for infiniti, and I believe they’re moving to Tier 1 in perceptions.
Take a look at these reviews:
Car And Driver: M45 Rocks, Game Over
USA Today: Making BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Audi and Cadillac irrelevant (PDF)
USA Today: The M is what the BMW 5 should have been.
Washington Post: Bess, You Is My Woman Now.
LA Times: Losing one's license in a blood-bubbling fit of speed narcosis
Detroit News: A standout in just about every way
Pete
Sorry to revisit the topic, but I would appreciate any advice/input on the subject, particularly from those who have personally dealt with the same scenario. Thanks in advance.
BTW, still the best I've ever felt in a new car. I'm flat out loving it.
I got mine for $50k all in. I'm getting a Twilight Blue M35 with the Premium Package. The invoice for the M35 with the Premium Package is just over $46k, but with a 7% sales tax for DeKalb county (I live in Stone Mountain), the taxes were a little over $3200. So in the end, I came up around $1000 over invoice. Far less than MSRP, which is a little over $51k for the M35 with Premium Pkg., and that's before the taxes are added on.
I came in with a pre-approved draft and the dealer gave me above Kelly Blue Book to make the deal happen. The whole transaction literally took about 20 minutes. I initially test drove the car at Infiniti at Gwinnett like you and went back to them. The salesperson I dealt with was very helpful; his name was Joe. Is this who you're dealing with?
BTW, I just received a voice mail earlier that the car will be here the first of July if not sooner. Can't wait!!
HP
I also have one station programmed in preset band A, number 6 and at least one station into each of the other preset bands (B and C). This way I can get to them very easily from the hard buttons.
I find myself using voice recognition quite a bit for radio tuning however.
I'm INSANELY jealous of you right now because you can at least drive yours....I've gotta wait!!!
I've learned to check tires at delivery closely after the delivery fiasco of my CLK430 5 years ago. Not only were the tires over inflated, but they were actually mounted at the wrong positions on the car. They were staggered size, unidirectional tires and my friends the Germans had actually mounted them so the outside of the tires said "inside". The salesman laughed it off and said they must have built my car during Oktoberfest. Amusing story but it made me wonder about the ContiSport blowouts I had on my previous car.
Anyway, lower the pressure to 32psi cold and you will find that the car rides much smoother and in my experience with less road/tire noise.
You will really love this car. i drove the other contenders but you know when you've met your true love and this was it. I actually WANTED to like the 530 more, because I consider myself a BMW guy. I drove the M and the 530 within 30 minutes of one another and frankly there was no comparison.
You guys will love this: my Infiniti salesman agreed to turn in my BMW for me, and to have its cracked windshield replaced at the Infiniti dealer before doing so (on my insurance, of course). Thse guys know how to do business! On the downside, i can see my lease end tab getting pretty fat after an Infiniti salesman drops it off for me...
Hang in there--the wait makes it that much sweeter!
In any case, the dealer is supposed to deflate it to the proper psi. Obviously, your dealer forgot (the guy getting paid $7 an hour to prep the car forgot). Just set it to the proper psi in the manual and you're good to go.
Also, a manager for one of the biggest Infiniti dealers said that the initial batch of M's were delivered with option/package/color combinations that weren't that popular (stupid Nissan forecasting).
I think the Journey/Tech package (whether M35, M45, or Sport) is the most popular combo. People shopping in this price range aren't shy about coughing up a few more thousand to get the latest goodies (Tech package), especially when even so equipped the car's price is still less than the competitors'.
I have yet to drive any of these cars but i think i have made up my mind just by reading reviews and from this reading comments on this forum. I am going for the M35x for sure. Probably go black w/ black interior and tech/journey package. Just want to test drive it and then i am all set. I asked around for some prices and bmw wanted $200 more a month for the 530xi over the M35x. that is way too much for 530 especially with that interior. Has anyone seen the M in black? which color is nicer, the black, diamond graphite or liquid platinum??? thanks alot
WOW! I am very impressed with your deal! I am also impressed by the fact that you were only in there for about 20 minutes! Since you got your financing elsewhere, what kind of interest rate did you get? Also what color interior did you get? I can't decide-wondering if the graphite leather will be too hot in the summer. I haven't attempted to bargain much, because I didn't think I could get an M35 for $1000.00 above invoice at this time, which is why I was going to wait until Fall. If I can get an M35 w/ Journey/Tech for $1,000 above invoice, I might have to get one sooner than I initially anticipated! THANK YOU so much for the great information! Looking forward to seeing another M35 on the road in ATL-enjoy!!!
Karen
I can pick up the car in Columbus or Nashville -- obviously, I chose Columbus.
Cincinnati friends said local dealer in Cincinnati was not easy to buy from -- the Internet was quick and easy.
Since I use a car seat in the middle, it is even more of a problem as I would have to take it out anytime I wanted to use the seat controls when traveling with less that three in the back seat.
For all of you waiting to take delivery, hang in there as your wait will be well worth it.
Now, I guess if the EXACT car we wanted was on the lot or could be had with a dealer trade, I would move forward -- but since 1977, this has only happened twice as I recall.
It is fun to order (it is like getting a new car twice about 3 or 4 months apart). Generally, the ordered car can be (CAN being the operative word) sold to you for less money since there will be no "floor plan" costs to the dealer.
We ordered two new cars in the past 30 days and although the "wait is difficult" it is like the song "Anticipation."
The Infiniti dealer where I will be picking up my M35X says that the cars have been selling well and that they don't sit long on the lot -- he CLAIMS that the majority of the M cars he sells are ordered cars not inventory cars. He seems to have one of every flavor to demo, but a pretty lean inventory (perhaps 8 or 10 cars).
At the moment, when I ordered the car, the "rule" was to get the "Internet Price" I had to order one, that it would not be sold for the Internet Price if it was already in stock.
Maybe things are different now. I started the inquiry process in February, placed the order with the Internet on March 31. I assume it was placed at the next order window, which for Infiniti is once per month at the beginning of the month.
When we ordered a new BMW, the order went in on Monday, we made the deposit at the close of biz on a Friday.
Car companies hate this, but I think all cars should be ordered, not just taken off the lot (unless the lot has THE exact car.) Lots of folks seem to "take Black," (or whatever) even though they wanted some other color, for example. Or they will say, "it had this or that option on it, and I didn't really want it, but I took it anyway to be done with it."
My wife's favorite song is Frank Sinatra's "My Way." About the only way to get it my way is to order. Just allow about 4 months (just in case) and you'll be fine.
And btw, you don't need to post your email address. If you want folks to be able to see it, just make it public in your profile.
Since we are an online community, we'd really prefer that conversations that can benefit lots of people take place here rather than in email anyway.
Patience may be a virtue but it's one that I'm lacking. Waiting three months for my toy probably would have killed me.
BTW, a page or two of message ago, Pete gave a few links with reviews of the M, and I just wanted to point out that anyone who hasn't read the review from USAToday should---It is not just the most positive review I've read of the M, it may be the most positive review I've ever read of ANY car- I don;t know what this guy's credibility is like, but he is clearly in love with this his car (apologies to Queen :>0). Here's the link...
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/reviews/healey/2005-03-17-m-series_x.htm
They are very helpful and they tell you what the deal is via email and/or telephone. The credit ap process is handled via Fax (no email worries about your Social Security #) and the deposit ($1,000) is a credit card read over the phone.
The pickup is perhaps the issue, since the pickup is in the three above named cities.
I suspect "things" change regularly -- the invoice price may have changed, the deal may have changed (for better or worse), etc.
Once you come to an agreement you will receive a fax of your order and it shows the final agreed upon price.
You can buy it, finance it or lease it -- there does not appear to be any selling going on with this program. The deal is the deal and the terms are the terms. Everyone agrees, signs off, so to speak via email and an approximate del date is given.
My intial human contact was with a sales rep who actually was in Denver. The final pickup point is Columbus and there is an Internet sales person who is my contact since I am not flying to either Denver or Nashville to retrieve my car.
Costco has good deals, the Internet has good deals, some geographies apparently are able to hold the line pretty close to MSRP -- unless you pay MSRP, whatever you end up with will be better than some deals and there will always be someone who beat your deal.
If you really want THE BEST DEAL, search this discussion line back 4 or 5 days and find the best price you can and if you can figure out how to get the car from the dealer that gave our fellow poster the deal you want, contact that dealer and make the offer and secure it with your deposit and an email and/or fax document.
Infiniti4Less - that's it.
The universal praise the M has thus far received will help immensely, and people are being enticed to look ... and looking leads to buying. Unfortunately, as great as this car is and as much as I like it's eye appeal it's NOT sufficiently distinctly Infiniti to turn heads ... yet. There is, however, a very real family likeness with the G-cars and maybe that's the way they're heading. We'll see.
Bart
Anyway, I was wondering if there's anybody out there from Jersey who has an M, and did you have to order it or were there enough to choose from the dealer. I'm going to get mine next month-thanks
Not much else I can say here, but it's not a mission impossible to find it ...
(Does "mission impossible" date me too clearly??
Oh...I guess I have to throw in some reference to the M....I'll bet that they would love to use an M45 sport in a sequel.
Other than that, and the occasional voice command miscue, I love this car. 35x, twilight blue, tech/journey. I work in a building in downtown Chicago with a valet lot in the basement. The guys have upgraded me into the spot of honor right up front by their booth. There are TONS of Lexus GS, BMW 300/500 and a fair share of Mercedes in this building.
The guys have said they have started to charge folks to look at my M.
I've only seen one on the road between downtown and the far west burbs.