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Thanks for the compliments
The axle ratio is a little more important with the Cummins because of the limited rev range. Unless you're dragging a house, the 3.54 will work very well behind the V10.
One thing about third-party warranties: many of them are "breakdown" policies, meaning you can only get coverage when something fails. The factory warranty is always in place, and I have had a few warranty jobs performed on parts BEFORE they failed by eagle-eyed mechanics at my dealer. Considering dealers get less for warranty work than for a regular repair, that means A) I have a great dealer, and
Your dealer can authorize a Cummins shop to do warranty work, but you cannot bring it to a Cummins shop on your own for warranty service.
As for the mirrors, there are a few manyufacturers of clip ons - I will look up a few and provide some links.
The Farm Bureau discount is not currently listed, but may be institued for the 2001s. A dealer would have that information sooner than I will.
kcram
Community Leader/Smart Shopper Conference
Gee, you think you could post some prices from this century. No really, thanks.
I've been doing some surfing trying to find answers, and most of your pricing is identical to what I've found, which is cool.
However, the 2HH package was still priced the same as 2000 models, and no mention about a rebate or code change was noted. Also the SLT+ pkg (ATK) had an invoice of $1777. 2000 models had invoice at $1836 per edmunds.com. I like your prices a lot better.
Is the code TST a new option for 2001? There is no mention of LT235/85's in my 2000 RAM brochure book.
Is the 2BH (2HH) package still consist of the same items or has it changed with the re-coding?
My source of 2001 prices was http://www.carsdirect.com and under the criteria of a 2001 model, 2500 LWB.
Gee, you think you could post some prices from this century. No really, thanks.
I've been doing some surfing trying to find answers, and most of your pricing is identical to what I've found, which is cool.
However, the 2HH package was still priced the same as 2000 models, and no mention about a rebate or code change was noted. Also the SLT+ pkg (ATK) had an invoice of $1777. 2000 models had invoice at $1836 per edmunds.com. I like your prices a lot better.
Is the code TST a new option for 2001? There is no mention of LT235/85's in my 2000 RAM brochure book.
Is the 2BH (2HH) package still consist of the same items or has it changed with the re-coding?
My source of 2001 prices was http://www.carsdirect.com and under the criteria of a 2001 model, 2500 LWB.
Pricing may be different possibly because the micro-print they show their pricing in is NOT dealer invoice. The amount they show is the carsdirect price. Every price they have listed is higher than invoice.
http://www.dodgeram.com/buying_info/Order_status.htm Rich
Both automatics should be equal. I know, people are knocking both, as problem ridden, but check with actual owners, and don't accept the answer of the tranny is junk. Find out just what happened to make it fail, and what maintenance was performed. Most people I have talked to have not had any problems with either brand. Remember, it could have been a screw-up from day one.
Now to make you choice, drive both about 5 to 6 different times. Do things in both you normally do in your present one, windows up and down, adjusting mirrors, controls, etc. Are you really comfortable in it? Be really critical about each one, make a list of likes and dislikes.
I have driven 2 PSs since we bought the 99 Cummins, just to be sure we did not make a mistake. For our money, we did not. This is not chump change we are talking about.
Good luck, Wildman
I would be pretty certain that you could add the Wiring Harness later but, the way Dodge wires it is pretty slick, it has a plug under the dash, next to the fuse panel, that you just plug the supplied wiring harness (with directions) into the Brake Box. I have had to wire trailer lights and Brake Boxes before, and what a pain it can be.
I am not sure I have seen a titan receiver, maybe you could go to a Titan dealer and see what the cost comparison is between the factory Tow Package and the Titan w/wiring, or ask the Titan dealer if a factory Class IV would handle flat towing a Jeep w/ an extension.
Ron,
I now have almost 3000 miles on my 2500 4x4 QC Sport Cummins 5spd. mileage keeps getting better all the time, I just did a 350 mile trip to St. Louis last weekend (alot of hills and empty)and pulled down 17 MPG @ 75 MPH, beats the heck out of my old Dodge Ram with a gas engine. The last time I trailered a Ford Pickup (approx. 6000lbs. w/trailer) I got right about 12.5 to 13 MPG. I wish I would have waited for the 6 spd. that (1) extra gear between 3rd and 4th would be nice sometimes, I criused at 70 MPH with the trailer easily up and down hills. I have the Tow Package, and Camper Package it really helps with stability when loaded. If you buy a 3500 Dually it carries an obscene amount of payload, I think my 2500 is rated at 2600 lbs and some change, and I would not have a problem with putting more in it, the axles are the same as the 3500, Dana 80 (R) Dana 60 (F). The last time I loaded it with
Firewood, it rode alot better, not that the ride is bad now.........Bill
My last question is concerning the axle ratio. I will be getting the 6-speed with the Cummins and would like the 3.54. Can I still get the anti-spin differential with this ratio? I know that if you order the 4.10 you are also required to get the anti-spin. Just not sure why. Thanks again.
-ddd
Eskota,
Gee, you think you could post some prices from
this century. No really, thanks.
I've been doing some surfing trying to find
answers, and most of your pricing is identical to
what I've found, which is cool.
However, the 2HH package was still priced the same
as 2000 models, and no mention about a rebate or
code change was noted. Also the SLT+ pkg (ATK) had
an invoice of $1777. 2000 models had invoice at
$1836 per edmunds.com. I like your prices a lot
better.
Is the code TST a new option for 2001? There is no
mention of LT235/85's in my 2000 RAM brochure
book.
Is the 2BH (2HH) package still consist of the same
items or has it changed with the re-coding?
My source of 2001 prices was
http://www.carsdirect.com and under the criteria of
a 2001 model, 2500 LWB.
The code change (2HH/2BH) is only for the 2001 models, same thing different name. I also like my prices, because I am paying $100 over invoice, for a total price of $35,589. Not bad for a 3500 with everything.
My only questions were about:
Owner Communication Program $20 YDH
Dallas Zone -PPA $120 A36
Dallas Zone -PPa $260 T29
What are they?
Glad to help, I have the 3.54's with a no spin in my 2500, it works pretty well, not like a locker but it beats an open diff any day. We have the same rear axle Dana 80, it is just yours has alot more tires on it LOL...............Bill
-ddd
I think I have the same fear as you about the rear fender thing, I was trying to teach my niece how to drive a manual tranny the other day, and she even cut off a corner, if I would have had a Dually she would have probably taken out a Fire Hydrant or a house. That is alot of weight and I would want a Dually, how many feet is that Lance?
I cannot see Dodge getting rid of the Dana 80, that would be crazy, when you look at the truck from behind it is all differential. my 5 spd. does pretty well at compression braking, but when I buy a travel trailer I will also buy the Jake Brake, I would suggest it with that 3200 lb. monster plus your Willys in tow.......Bill
As far as the Jake Brake goes, the Dodge dealer quoted me $1800 just for the part. I believe that you can get it for about 1/3 the price directly from a Cummins shop.
-ddd
Wildman
You have a pop-up Lance camper? How is the interior as compared to the hardwalls? i.e. bathroom, and kitchen area. I think that is a little steep for the Jake Brake, I think I will probably pass on that and just use gears and brakes, I have driven plenty of Tractor Trailers without them, you just have to prepare for the hill earlier, but a Jake sure does make it somewhat painless. I looked into slide in campers but I have a shortbed, and the biggest I could go I think was an 8.5' floor length, it would be a little small with my family and pets. I really like the drop down ramp trailers for carrying toys in the back. That is a big darn receiver, 2.5" you could just alleviate that problem and give me the 46 Willys LOL.................Bill
I also looked at some drop down trailers--the Willys would fit right in, but I don't think the wife was sold on the idea.
Are you getting good mileage out of your service brakes? I have a friend with a 2500 auto and he only gets about 20k miles on the flat.
Keep me posted,
-ddd
I have heard that about the automatics, it makes sense because if driving slow you would always be braking with the torque the engine puts out, plus the truck weighs over 6400 lbs. I can start out with mine in second gear from an idle. I saw a 28 foot, drop down trailer, at Bass Pro Shops, that was very nice, it weighed in at 8800 lbs. loaded, easy pulling, fully self-contained w/generator.......Bill
-ddd
Yes it has a mini garage in the back, but the tail of the trailer is sloped up about a foot and there is a bunk over the garage portion. The one I was looking at had the garage area completely sealed with walls, my wife had the same concern about the smell if it was an open trailer all the way to the back, I am not sure if that would handle the weight of your Willys. I plan on getting some Quads hopefully when I retire in a couple of years, and start another career........Bill
Autobytel did not work! Not a single response from them. I spent the day emailing directly to the fleet managers of the dealers in our area and found a very responsive one. He says that he will order me a 2001, 3500 Quad, 4x4, ETH, 6-speed, with all options for $99 over invoice. Then the 10-week wait begins.
I sure wish I was retiring in a couple years! A couple of Quads would really add icing to the cake!
-ddd
I could not wait that long, to impulsive I guess that is why I ended up with a 5 spd. and you will get a 6 spd. I can retire from my present job in two years, but I am to young to quit working, and my kids are still in school. I will just collect some toys on the way, I have the biggest thing now, the Tow Truck (my Cummins). I am still trying to figure out where to go when I retire from present job. Awhile back the local dealer had a 3500 Sport, 6 spd. QC, 4x4, White, on the lot, it lasted about a week, price tag was $39,000 and it was loaded.................Bill
-ddd
Where did you buy your truck for $99 over invoice? Anywhere in California (in or near the SF Bay Area)?
Thanks for reminding me about retirement. What is the B55,T55, Bay Area thing? You got a wonderful deal on that truck, that is roughly what I paid for my 2500 Sport, around here they do not mark up vehicles, I noticed that alot on the west coast, Washington to California, that is pretty sad that they can do that and still sell them (easily). That is one reason I bought mine out here before I went back to the west coast, plus Rams are made about 1 1/2 hours from here, what would your truck have sold for on the lot? did you get the 3.54 gears?.....Bill
-ddd
I have no idea what the B55/T55 are but I believe that I read in an earlier post that it was a non-negotiable advertising fee--It seems to be more expensive in California. The part that really ticks me off is the $9 for two gallons of gas (I sure hope they mean diesel).
As per your advice, I did get the 3.54 gears and anti-spin differential.
Could you please inform me on how to shift into 4WD. It seems to me that I read a bulletin that says that you must be moving to do so. Is this true? What if you get stuck first? Thanks,
-ddd
It averages 625 on an idle, but I've been told it *should* idle higher. That and I've been expecting it to race at a higher rpm when I first start it--am I being paranoid over my beautiful new truck, or might this be normal? Other than that, the engine is smooth and quiet, and it's got plenty of kick in it with no hesitation.
Thanks for the info about Redwood City Dodge. We'll be ready to order in another month or so and I was trying to figure our where and how to go about ordering a truck. I've spoken to our local dodge dealer (I live in Newark) and wasn't too impressed but Redwood City is only about 20 min away so we'll definitely give Jim Povio a call. Thanks again for your help.
Mark
-ddd
Thanks,