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I thought it came with a full spare tire.
Will the hybrid w/NAVI come with the new navigation system? I know the TL still comes with the old navigation system.
I'm more likely to get the right answers here than at a dealership where the most technical thing they usually can answer (50% correctly) is what colors they have in stock.
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Can anyone make any reccommendations. I don't really want to spent $700 at this time. Does anyone know a reliable shop in East Bay, California. And finally If I were to do one thing -how would I get the most "bang for my buck?"(heavy bass in not important for me-I'm a "Big Band" kind of Guy.) Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
This page updated November 9, 2005
Enactment of the 2005 Federal transportation bill allows California to fully implement California Assembly Bill 2628. AB 2628, signed into law on September 23, 2004, allows single-occupant use of High Occupancy Vehicle (HOVs) lanes by the cleanest alternative fuel, hybrid, and full-electric vehicles. Use of these lanes with only one occupant requires an identification sticker issued by the California Department of Motor Vehicles
http://arbis.arb.ca.gov/msprog/carpool/carpool.htm
Vehicles not allowed
FORD
2005-2006 ESCAPE HYBRID - not qualified due to fuel economy less than 45MPG.
HONDA
2005 ACCORD HYBRID - not qualified due to lack of compliance with ATPZEV emission standard and fuel economy less than 45MPG
2005 INSIGHT HYBRID - not qualified due to lack of compliance with ATPZEV emission standard.
LEXUS
2006Rx400h HYBRID - not qualified due to fuel economy less than 45MPG and lack of compliance with ATPZEV emission standard.
MERCURY
2006 MARINER HYBRID - not qualified due to fuel economy less than 45MPG.
TOYOTA
2006 HIGHLANDER HYBRID - not qualified due to fuel economy less than 45MPG and and lack of compliance with ATPZEV emission standard.
If you are serious about upgrading the sound, I'd suggest listening to some speakers - every person has their own opinion of what is good but if you read the acura forums, I can safely say I'm not the only person to say the older acura radio is crap.
My preference for reasonably priced but good sounding car speakers are polk and alpine. Part of the problem with most car speakers is tweater placement - if they aren't aimed right for your ears they sound pretty bad. The other is cheap paper cones - they degrade signficantly due to sunlight and general fatique. Do you happen to have the specs for amps/watts of the one in the honda?
Try listening to the speakers at a resonably low level at first. When you are in the car they will probably be playing much louder but if you listen to them at a loud level right off the bat, you won't be able to tell the difference from one set of speakers to the next very easily.
Go to an install place that specializing in quality installs, not just subwoofers the size of your trunk or one of the major retailers that is all about percentage. I'd avoid al&eds - often a bad place for installs but OK to listen to stuff. Installers who are serious compete - you might want to look for competition awards - kind of like a doctors diploma - you can be sure if they compete they have them hanging prominently.
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cal_cal, "Honda Accord Hybrid Owners: Accessories" #9, 28 Sep 2005 12:47 pm
To date, I have replaced the speakers.
David
My current '05 HAH is really a "piece of machinery" as Dennis put it. It has more power than a V6 EX Accord yet consumes gas as an I4 Accord. I feel I ride on a long-legged greyhound when I drive it on freeways. When one "goes up" to buy a V6 car he/ she probably does not want to "go down" to an I4.
PS - we used to live in a shoebox and worked 26 hours a day. Seriously though as much as I wanted a car in college, I'm glad my parents didn't spoil me with one. Unless you have the ultimate discipline in college it is way too easy to get distracted and want to do other things.
I saw a lady who was driving a brand new '05 HAH on highway yesterday and I gave her a V sign to congratulate her for her smart decision to buy it.
I have it being looked at right now at my dealer, but they are trying to tell me the light doesn't turn off, and that's normal. Well, I opened it last night and the light was off, so I thought the bulb had burned out. But then opened it again and it was on again. Anyone else with this problem? It seems to me that a light in the glove compartment should not remain on at all times!
As for the Auto Stop, the engine needs to be warmed up after about 1 mile before it works. Sometimes, for some reason it does not work at stop lights. But 99+ % it works.
Saves them all that excess weight of a glove box switch.
Dan
Dan
Has anyone else encountered this? I could understand a moderate increase, but over 50%? I prefer to use the dealer, but $50 with tax seems an awful lot to pay for an oil change.
Well, over at the website where real-world MPG is reported by actual owners, the HAH is averaging 30 MPG overall. But that includes a large number of people who are not TRYING to achieve good numbers, and are driving it just like a regular car. We all know that strategy is not best for hybrids. We know that a trained hypermiler can get over 40 MPG in that car no problem. And YES the HAH uses VCM.
Second, HOW the HAH achieves better highway mileage IS relevant. IF the better highway mileage is due more to aerodynamic improvements/tire selection than the powertrain, wouldn't this be good info to know? Wouldn't the owner of a regular Accord like to know if he can substantially improve his highway mileage by simply using the same tire selection as the HAH? Does the HAH use the same final drive ratio as the regular Accord?
You now are getting into topics that only the most techie of buyers will care about. I can assure that MOST Accord Hybrid buyers care FAR LESS about "technically HOW?" than they care about "can I really get that MPG?" What matters in the end is the MPG which can be achieved.
Many people, myself included, think Honda made a mistake by going with the V6 engine for the Accord Hybrid, rather than putting it on the I4 Accord. When Toyota comes out with an I4-based Camry Hybrid and starts selling 8,000 of them per month, compared to about 1,500 Accord Hybrids, we'll know for sure that Honda blew it.
Fair enough. However, if I want to know what the real-world mileage differences are between the HAH and the regular Accord, wouldn't I be MORE interested in the results of folks who drive it just like a regular car?
IOW - is it fair to say "well, if you drive it like a hypermiler you can get over 40mpg, but if you drive a regular Accord like a regular driver, you'll only get 28 (or whatever), so the hybrid is worth a whopping 12mpg!!! Woohoo!!!" In reality, how much of the 40mpg is due to DRIVING IT responsibly and how much is due to hybrid (and other gas saving) technology?
Bottom line: if the two vehicles are DRIVEN THE SAME (and have the same aerodynamics, tires, etc.), how much of a benefit to highway mileage is hybrid technology?
On the Accords, I'm not sure. But if the Accord hybrid had been made with the I4 engine, it would be a larger margin in favor of the hybrid.
But regardless, the people who benefit most from Hybrid technology are the people who LEARN TO DRIVE IT TO MAXIMIZE MPG. If you want to drive a hybrid like a regular car, then just buy a regular car.
I would say the fuel savings on the HAH is 90% the driver, and 10% the hybrid technology. Out of 61 HAH owners reporting, the highest average anyone is getting is 39 MPG. There are Accord 4C drivers getting much better averages than that. One reports 47+ MPG with his new 4 Cylinder Accord. Unless the additional performance of the HAH is your cup of tea. The Accord 4C is a smarter PZEV choice.
The most controlled number for something like that comes from EPA. It shows a 23% improvement.
And while the following excerpt from a test drive (autosite) does not apply to Accord, it does say a little about what hybrid technology brings to the plate:
“We managed a 47.1-mpg average in a drive that covered two-lane country road, an 80-mph blitz down the freeway, and rush hour city driving. Not bad. And the air conditioning was cranked the entire time. The 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid’s combined power rating is 110 horsepower, and we never felt as though the car lacked verve.”
Dan
And I (of course) turned out to be correct....once the new cars were broken in and warmer weather came along, the MPG for the HAH began to reach acceptable levels for the worried owners.......:D
I bought a Accord EX-L 4 Cyl to get me at least part of the improved mileage I was seeking. I'll probably revisit the hybrids in a couple of years as I still like the technology and results.
Dan
My sales rep gave me another 5 digit code and it wouldn't work either. The service manager called me back and had me enter the 4 digit code using the power button and the tuning knob.
The radio now works but the NAV does not. The display simply displays touch buttons 1-0, "delete" and "done".
The service rep says to bring it in but I'm an hour away from the dealership. Any suggestions?
Also, has anyone come up with a way to get the audio from an MP3 player into the sound system? I've tried a "FM transmitter" that was less than satisfactory.
John