Chevrolet Malibu Oil Changes/Service Questions

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  • dkahldkahl Member Posts: 8
    I've checked the fuses marked "stop light" and the brake light and back up light fuses. They were all okay. I also didn't see any problems in the wiring at the brake itself, and it hasn't been in an accident.

    This morning, I discovered the "service engine soon" light is on, and the dash/radio lights don't dim when I turn the lights on.

    Nothing on the left side works except the back up light, including the license plate light.

    I guess I should have left the brake light out.

    Thanks for the help...any more ideas?
  • metomcatmetomcat Member Posts: 1
    Did the service tech give you an easy way to check it. The plug is located on top of transmission and under carb, ducting, steering wheel shaft, and only the man, knows what else. And if the engine is hot, have a medic close by. I hope they have changed this on the later models. I have a 2001.
  • sfulksfulk Member Posts: 1
    My 04 Malibu LS won't start sometimes. It is like something is wrong with the fuel pump. After a few times of the car starting funny I took it to my dealer to have them check it out. When I was pulling into the dealership my power steering went out. The mechanics said that the computer did not show any thing was wrong with it. However, clearly something was. They replaced some sort of little piece and said that should do it. A couple months later the same thing happened again. This time it had been cranking funny for about 2 weeks and then one day when I was pulling into a store the power steering went out again. When it was towed to the dealer ship this time they changed some sort of motor. Now 2 more months later, the dang thing is cranking funny again. I don't know what could be wrong with it but I know the mechanics that I go to can't find any thing wrong with it. So if anybody has had this problem and their mechanic fixed it please tell me what they did. Thanks.
  • e2helpere2helper Member Posts: 1,002
    It took a while to find the message you replied to (was over a year ago!).

    Sorry to hear about your troubles. Would you be willing to post back last 6 digits of your VIN (just the last 6) to allow figuring out when your vehicle was built?
  • maxx4memaxx4me Member Posts: 1,340
    well I rotated my tires for the second time since buying my Maxx and I have never seen tires which a) wore so evenly and b) look like I'm wasting my time rotating them since I cannot see any evidence of greater wear on the fronts. I'm not sure how these Bridgestones get a 320 government rating for treadwear; they look to me as if they'll last forever.
  • csandstecsandste Member Posts: 1,866
    I'm happy with them but they certainly look like a bad deal on paper. My assumption is that Chevy ordered the tire up (don't look like other sizes in the line) in order to get better mileage. Anyone switched out of the OEMs? Did MPG's go down? :confuse:
  • kurtamaxxguykurtamaxxguy Member Posts: 677
    My OEM tires are also wearing well, though their grip is only so-so.

    I've been thinking of Falken tires as ConsumersUnion felt they were very good (good ride, grip, etc.), but only one dealer in our area carries them, and they're pushing a Falken model that wasn't tested.

    Having been burned many times by replacement tires, Loathe am I to put unknown tires on a car any more. The Maxx is the first car I've owned that doesn't have a harsh ride over small bumps, and I'd really like to keep it that way. Tires seem to be a big factor for that.
  • csandstecsandste Member Posts: 1,866
    Haven't had bad luck with replacements at all...

    97 Cavalier. Crappy crude car but BFG Radial TA's were pretty good. Replaced two tires with Hercules, not a bad tire. TA's were still on the back when I got rid of it at 85000 miles.

    01 Elantra. Michelin Energies were pure overpriced crap. Wore out at less than 40K miles. Got Uniroyal TigerPaw GT-H's from Wally World. Less than half the price than the Energies and far better tires. Got a bit more than 40K on them.

    Interesting to me that 138 hp Elantra required H rated tires and Maxx with 50% more horsepower doesn't require them. I think choice of Michelins is a pure marketing scam. Manufacturers pay $10 for them and figure you'll either rip one of them, or be stupid enough to buy them as a replacement set for $500. But with a lot of dealers once on H rated tires, always on H rated tires.

    The Elantra dropped Kumho OEM's when it went "upscale" in 01. Interestingly enough Kumho gets the best bang for the buck ratings on TireRack and would probably be on my short list for replacements on the Maxx.

    Those Douglas (Kelly) touring tires @ Wal-Mart have an 80K warranty (think the uniform mileage rating is about 780). I don't have much experience with Goodyear-Kelly, but these look like a lot of tire for the money and interestingly enough I've had good luck with Wally World's tire shops (will probably pay $7 a tire to get lifetime balance and rotation on the Bridgestones). However, the potential for being linked to a truly bad tire that doesn't wear out for 80,000 miles scares me. Wal-Mart says these tires are quiet and they are A-A rated so the traction should be at least as good as the Bridgestones. If they knocked 2 mpg's off my mileage because of rolling resistance I'd be pode however.
  • bowlgodbowlgod Member Posts: 3
    Hi there. I have a 2000 Malibu with the same problem. This is due to a malfunctioning sending unit in the gas tank. The argument is this: GM blames Shell for bad gasoline and Shell tells them they are full of it. I call it just plain bad parts. Best suggestions are: replace the unit in the tank, or save yourself some money and use the trip meter and don't go over 400 km before your next fillup. Or, you might try going to the dealer and raising a ruckus about the Shell issue and tell them it's not your problem to bear. You might get lucky. Best of luck, Dave.
  • regninisregninis Member Posts: 1
    I am new to this sight and saw your issue. Don't know if you have resolved it yet. If a GM mechanic can not figure it out, try taking it to a Ford dealership. My sister had a similar problem with her tail lights. In fact, she didn't have anything for awhile and the Ford mechanics finally were able to put her on the right track, fixing all the problems another mechanic had created.
  • chuckr1chuckr1 Member Posts: 2
    This shell problem is true. In Canada, Shell had offered compensation for the problem. I had the problem with my 2000 Malibu, but was able to make a claim when my vehicle was still under warranty.

    http://www.autonet.ca/AutonetStories/Stories.cfm?StoryID=10599
  • mercuryarcmercuryarc Member Posts: 1
    My wife has a 98 Malibu and I need to service the transmission. Does anyone know any tricks to get a majority of the fluid out.
  • simonesimone Member Posts: 18
  • simonesimone Member Posts: 18
    Good Morning, Yesterday had my 2004 malibu LT serviced (35,000 miles) and my mechanic told me that my front struts were leaking... He told me that I should call the dealership, and have them replaced before my warranty expired...So I called and made an appointment to bring the car in have them look at the struts..
    My question and statement is. Has anyone else had this problem, since I mostly drive freeways I thought this was real strange...any way i thought i would pass this on and alert the rest of you using this forum which i think is just great..
  • simonesimone Member Posts: 18
    Just picked my 04 LT malibu at the dealership, both front struts replaced,front end alignment was done all under warranity. Drove car and can really feel the difference. Also had brakes/ rotors checked and all is ok..Car has performed beautifully and i am quite pleased with it, 16months 35,000 miles with a true mpg average of 32.8 vs the computer read out of 31.2 close enough.... :D:D
  • paopao Member Posts: 1,867
    sounds like you had a good experience at the dealership...did they give you any indication of why the struts would fail..or leak at this early stage .....while 35k is above normal driving for 16 months......surely it didnt contribute to what I would call premature failure of the struts.....
  • simonesimone Member Posts: 18
    Dealer could not give me a reason for the strut failure, in fact he indicated that they will normally last btwn 70 to 80,000 miles...In any case I'm glad they were taken care of, also found out that would have been covered under my extended warranty but shocks are not covered ...With all that I've read about the new malibu's here on Edmunds, I guess that I am quite lucky, other than this and the wayward steering column issue (replaced and corrected twice),the car has done all that was promised and I am quite pleased with it... :D:D
  • gig2gig2 Member Posts: 1
    I just bought a 2002 chevy malibu with 15k miles. the a/c is acting up, the lights blink on and off, the a/c goes on and off, the outside vent won't go off. Any body have any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks
  • Just reading through forum and saw this. It's ironic that GM has published TSB recommending use of a top tier gas. Shell is listed on the TSB as meeting the top tier rating.
  • simonesimone Member Posts: 18
    Can you share with the rest of us this list??? Don't know where you are located but here so cal, shell is usually one the highest cost per gallon stations, by chance would Costco would they be on this list??? :D
  • csandstecsandste Member Posts: 1,866
    http://www.toptiergas.com

    TOP TIER Gasoline Retailers:

    QuikTrip
    Chevron
    Conoco
    Phillips
    76
    Shell
    Entec Stations
    MFA Oil Company

    QuikTrip dominates the St. Louis market and seems to control most pricing within the market.
  • paopao Member Posts: 1,867
    interesting not to see exxon on this list....
  • jerrywimerjerrywimer Member Posts: 588
    I was thinking the same thing. If there's an Exxon nearby when my father fills up it's the only place he considers. I've sent him this list though.

    (We've discussed GM recommendations, fuel octane, fuel brand before. He's a big proponent of big name [ Exxon ] and high octane [ 91 or higher ] in all of his vehicles, regardless of what the manufacturer recommends.)
  • kurtamaxxguykurtamaxxguy Member Posts: 677
    and we have lots of Arcos here in S.Calif.

    No Vallero either, but Vallero processes high sulphur oil and I suspect their gasolines are second or third tier. Chevron's Techtron additive comes in handy when using the lo qual stuff.
  • crosby1crosby1 Member Posts: 23
    Sorry for the month delay on responding. I hope I don't screw up the flow of the conversation on gas. It is an important topic. I have had my mechanic flush the trany fluid a couple times on my 88 Lesabre. He uses no special tools. The Amsoil web site has detailed instructions which are exactly how my mechanic did it. This may not work on all cars and it needs to be done carefully to prevent damage to the trany.
    Just dropping the pan and changing filter get out less than 2/3 of fluid. I always change out the filter while I'm at it. It is a good way to get synthetic fluid in the trany if your car did not already come with it.
    It wouldn't hurt to check with someone who knows your car before doing this, however.
  • gmac4gmac4 Member Posts: 1
    im new to the site and am having a similiar problem with my malibu i was wondering if you ever got the issue resolved and if so what was wrong
  • peterfapeterfa Member Posts: 2
    Check with your Chevy Dealer. Had same problem on 2000. A/C module was at fault
  • peterfapeterfa Member Posts: 2
    The fan for the heater-a/c doesnt work on 1 and 2 for my 2000 malibu. It needs a new blower motor resistor. Anyone know where it is located?
  • beedublubeedublu Member Posts: 236
    Has anyone had any experience with this?

    My dealer keeps plugging this, especially now that I've reached 12000 miles on my 04 Maxx LS. It's supposed to be some kind of cleaning process of the fuel injectors and intake; they claim it removes crud that reduces fuel mileage and performance. The price: $89.95. :surprise: Is it worth it, or is this just a high-profit add-on?
  • I think many dealers are resistant to GM's simplified maintenance schedules introduced for the 2004 model year because it negatively impacts their bottom line. These dealers still push the maintenance routines for earlier model years, where you bring the car in every 3K for something. To make up for lost revenue, they also try to sell you all these other unnecessary services. In my opinion, unless the engine is not running right, this service is not needed.

    In fact, I came across TSB 04-06-04-051A which GM issued Sept 2004. The rest of this post contains the text from this bulletin.

    General Motors is aware that some companies are marketing tools, equipment and programs to support fuel injector cleaning as a preventative maintenance procedure. General Motors does not endorse, support or acknowledge the need for fuel injector cleaning as a preventative maintenance procedure. Fuel injector cleaning is approved only when performed as directed by a published GM driveability or DTC diagnostic service procedure.

    Due to variations in fuel quality in different areas of the country, the only preventative maintenance currently endorsed by GM regarding its gasoline engine fuel systems is the addition of GM fuel system treatment, P/N 12345104 added to a tank of fuel at each oil change. Refer to corporate bulletin number 03-06-04-030A for proper cleaning instructions.

    IMPORTANT: The addition of GM fuel system treatment should not be necessary for those customers who exclusively use Top Tier Detergent Gasolines only.
  • paopao Member Posts: 1,867
    would agree ....no need....I use a top tier gasoline brand...(chevron)...its all about the the detergent quality of the fuel for not leaving deposits in the fuel system.....unless its not running right or some other indicator..not need....add a good fuel additive every couple of tanks if in doubt.....most oil change places push the fuel injector cleaning service as well.......but again...no need...my two cents
  • kurtamaxxguykurtamaxxguy Member Posts: 677
    while this is no absolute indicator, the shape of GM fuel treatment bottles are identical to the Chevron Tectron additive bottle.
  • jendeejendee Member Posts: 1
  • montebumontebu Member Posts: 10
    We may see this advertisement someday:
    "Mr.Goodwrench Transmission Fluid Level Check Service For Your New Malibu - $25"
    Or $30, or $50. Who knows how much they would charge to put your idling car on a lift to access that little hole on the transmission to check your hot transmission fluid. Something that you could do yourself if GM hadn't deleted the dipstick. How much did GM save by doing this? If they would have made the dipstick an option I would have bought it.
    So, if you want to check for burnt, foaming, or low fluid level, you have to crawl under your car or over your engine to do it.
    Or take your car to Mr. Goodwrench. I'm sure he'd be happy to do it for you. $$$$
  • cwesleygcwesleyg Member Posts: 64
    I hadn't noticed this omission from under my hood. the car is three weeks old and I hadn't bothered checking trannie fluid... I guess I won't bother... just keep checking for the red oil slick in the driveway I guess...
  • clarencehollowclarencehollow Member Posts: 60
    I put in a quart of EOS Assembly Lubricant in all our new vehicles. A one time event - best $5.00 investment and I DO notice better MPG, and NO wear.
  • meandmymaxxmeandmymaxx Member Posts: 134
    I believe GM was trying to avoid people using a dirty rag to clean the dip stick and then contaminating the tranny fluid when the now dirty dip stick was placed back in. And by some of the rags I have seen shops use to wipe the stick, I think it was a great idea by GM. It is the same reason why they went to sealed batteries years ago you could not open. it don't take much dirt to ruin fluids.
  • roekingroeking Member Posts: 1
    I have the same problem on my wife's 98 Malibu

    I found this link which shows where it is: http://autorepair.about.com/library/illustrations/bl629a-lib.htm

    Good luck
  • maxx4memaxx4me Member Posts: 1,340
    Well, it has been nearly 10 months since I first put a CAF in my Maxx. While it was not totally black, it was dark enough for me sooo, I cut myself another 50 cents worth of furnace filter and slipped it in. My prescription would be to replace it once a year. In comparison, I have to replace my Vibe's CAF every 3-4 months. I wonder why there would be such a disparity? Thanks again e2helper for telling us about this hidden feature and making my cabin a little nicer to drive in.
  • redmaxxredmaxx Member Posts: 627
    I found that suggestion as well as the one that said that the Ion's CAF fits. I started with a regular furnace filter but that was a huge mess. I'll spend the $12 every 2-3 months so my hands don't get cut up. Plus, I found that the Ion filter doesn't need a frame, it just slips in and out 3 months later with no trouble. After 2 months, mine was very dirty.
  • greekmaxxgreekmaxx Member Posts: 1
    Hi All...I'm finding it next to impossible to keep these seats clean. When using plain water...it leaves a ring...use clear carbonated water per owners manual...it leaves a ring...clear bottled water...it leaves a ring...foam cleaner...it leaves a ring. I've never had a car with such a light color upholstery and am finding a bit frustrating. Was just wondering if anyone else has noticed this or are using seat covers. My past GM seats were of the velour type and am just not use to this 'smooth fabric' type. :confuse:
  • willscarywillscary Member Posts: 21
    OK, I did a search on this and came up with the two posts right here. Is there a cabin filter? Where is it? Is there simply a spot for one that Chevrolet decided not to use? Could you please tell me more?
  • maxx4memaxx4me Member Posts: 1,340
    From my post #4481 of the Malibu page:

    1. open glove box
    2. empty all contents
    3. there are two plastic pegs; one on each side of the lower back side of the box allowing the box to pivot. Squeeze (VERY HARD ) the sides of the lower box inward to allow the pegs to exit the side holes. I wiggle the glove box back and forth violently while pushing in. Don't worry about breaking the the pegs; I have done mine 5 times now, and each time I have to push as hard as I can to get the box to push inward and release the pegs.
    4. once inside, you will see the black plastic snap to enter the cabin filter door. Lift the snap upwards
    5. slide in your 8 x 10 inch (one inch thick) cardboard high efficience furnace filter cutting.
    6. close your glove box (the plastic pegs slide easily back into place)

    update: I just put a new one in this week. It still is unbelievably hard to push in on the sides to get the plastic pegs to release from their pivot points. I had a little better luck this time pushing in on the left side (console side) of the glove box first and releasing that peg. Anyway, the car did not come with a cabin air filter; only a slot for one.
  • redmaxxredmaxx Member Posts: 627
    Be very careful on step 4. I did it the wrong way and broke the plastic snaps off. Now I've got a couple of very strong pieces of tape (the kind with the threads in them, very strong stuff) holding the thing in. Works, but not pretty. Then again, who is going to see it? :P
  • mccoy3mccoy3 Member Posts: 1
    I'm also having brake light problems with a 98 Malibu. Both the right and left brakelights quit working, but the third center brakelight in the rear window still works. I have checked the fuses and they are okay. There are two switches under the dash that activate when the brake pedal is depressed and they appear to be functioning proberly. I have examined all of the wiring in the trunk area that is exposed and it appears intatct. Does anyone have any suggetions.
  • e2helpere2helper Member Posts: 1,002
    OK you have checked some things here are a few more things to look at.

    Is it just the brake lamps that don't work (turn signal and back-up lights are OK)? There are 2 brake lamps per side - all 4 don't work?

    The brake lamp bulbs also act as rear tail lights (they turn on when you turn on parking lights) at a lower intensity. Does that function work or is it also inoperate?

    Have you removed the rear lamp assemblies (procedure in owner manual) and checked the bulbs? I think this is a bulb #3057.
  • gmaxxgmaxx Member Posts: 10
    Recently my 2004 Maxx passed the 30,000 mile mark, and I was thinking that was the mileage at which my Ford manual had recommended transmission fluid and screen change. I asked my dealer's service dept. what mileage they recommended, and they said 30,000. When I asked the charge I was told that they had a special including the "recommended" checks for the fuel system, brakes, hoses, belts, etc. I jokingly asked "How many hundred $$$ would that be?" The serious reply was $400.00. I quickly responded that I felt that was too much. They told me that it was actually a discount for all that they would do, and that it was cheaper than what I would eventually spend anyway. I asked the price for just the transmission fluid and screen change, and was quoted $120.00. I checked another dealer and they told me $79.95.

    Then, to top it all off, when I thoroughly read the owners manual I found that it said except for heavy duty usage (taxi, etc.) which required service at 50,000 miles, the fluid did not require changing!

    I come from the old school of preventive maintenance, but with advanced technology and prices to match, I really wonder. I am nervously trusting the engine "oil life" indicator, and changing when it says around 10%. I use Mobile 1 5w-30 synthetic lubricant and a Fram "7,000 mile" filter. Yet, it all seems to be a gamble, with the players being opportunists, new technology, ignorance, experience, high prices, and trust. I don't want to be foolishly cheap, but nothing is really inexpensive anymore. My dealer also told me that my 3.5 engine would cost $6,000.
  • maxx4memaxx4me Member Posts: 1,340
    Wow, take a deep breath.
    OK, now before another person on this board tells you what a great idea preventative maintenance is, I'll tell you to simply follow the manufacturer's recommendations which says exactly what you stated above. Please don't waste your money on 30k service. This is simply a way to take money from your wallet. I normally would get the tranny fluid evacuated at the Jiffy Lube for the $79 you quoted. They have the exact same machines as the dealer. I've been going there for years, and they do a great job. I even watch the fluid coming out the hoses and see that they are running clear fluid through the waste line before unhooking my car. The Malibu contains Dexron III, which I believe is a new fluid on the market. You would need to ensure that your technician has that type of fluid. But, if GM says you never need it done, yet you still want it done, and do not tow or drive in the mountains all the time, I'd shoot for 70k to have it done.
    As for the oil, I use the same oil. I change mine every 6k myself. I think your 7k is just fine since you obviously are doing a lot of highway mileage to get to 30k so fast. I do recommend using the high end Frame XG filter and not the ordinary Fram.
    While there is nothing wrong with having your car inspected at 30k, have your trusty mechanic do it, not the dealer. Seeing that you put that many miles on in such a short time, I seriously doubt you have cause for concern. Save your $400 and buy me lunch.
  • paopao Member Posts: 1,867
    Jim,

    well stated...Im about to turn 46k on my Maxx...04LT as you remember....and no problems as all...Im over to syth oil now...running and changing every 6K or so...usually the GMOL is at 40% by the time I get it changed..seems to go 10% for every 1000 miles or so of driving.....Im averaging 750-1000 miles a week with a new commute....but that will go down to 35 miles..come 1 Oct...but been doing this one since July..coupled with 4 trips so far to SC and back this fall for football....Im very happy with this car...no problems....over 30K on the new tires and no sign of real wear, gas mileage down a little...but suspect that is the 17inch rims and larger profile tires...getting about 28-30 on the interstate and 24-26 around town..but happy with those numbers....all in all..very satisfied with my Maxx....and I agree..just followed the maintenance schedule in the owners manual....and find a good mechanic you trust after that 36K mark.....
  • crosby1crosby1 Member Posts: 23
    Does the Maxx come with synthetic trany fluid?
    I have an 04 Maxx which I bought new and intend to keep forever. I am contemplating flushing the trany oil, even though the car has less than 13,000 miles, to get the clutch fibers and machining residue out of the system. I would flush it for sure if it did not come with synthetic trany fluid.
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