Toyota Tacoma 2005+

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  • raswankraswank Member Posts: 56
    Are they easy to keep clean? They would only be on during the summer. And what do you clean them with. Also what size tire do you have on them? Sorry for all the questions
  • boone88rrboone88rr Member Posts: 194
    Yeah they aren't hard to keep clean. I just use my wash mit to wash them when I'm done with the rest of the truck. I use Meguiar's Gold Class Car Shampoo. Then I put a coat of Klasse AIO on them when they are clean and dry. I have Toyo Open Country A/T tires on them. I put 265/70/16's but I'm pretty sure you can fit 265/75/16's on them as well without a lift.
  • raswankraswank Member Posts: 56
    I have 265/75 R16 on the current 5 spoke 16 inch rims. So I guess there would be no clearance issues. Plus I just bought the Swayaway 2.0 series coilovers to level it out 1 1/2 inches. Later I will use the coilovers to there full extent the 3 inches. I will use the Donahoe add a leafs in the rear.
  • cncmfgcncmfg Member Posts: 11
    Just got mail back from TRD apparently the Supercharger is still in development and should be out in "spring of 06". i should proably hassel Eaton find out more considering they buy their parts off me. oh well.

    considering the TRD warranty on S/C and my extended warranty, i think this will be my first major mod to my 06 TRD, short of some Donahoe Racing front coilovers and the free deaver full leaf's!! ;)

    stoked.

    this is a nice truck but the power is a little lacking.
    cant wait. only thing i couldnt find out was the price and what s/c kit options they will offer.
  • johndeerejoejohndeerejoe Member Posts: 19
    According to the service manual I'm supposed to change the spark plugs at 30,000. Can any one verify this. Seems like all the other cars out there change them at 100,000
  • cncmfgcncmfg Member Posts: 11
    JOHN,

    the 05 06 tacoma uses NGK iridium plugs, or another type. but hopefully this helps. i am quoting directly from NGK's website, they are actually 2 blocks away from me! kinda cool.

    " Q: How often should I replace my spark plugs?

    A: Unfortunately,there is no single answer to this question. As spark plugs grow older, they lose their sharp edges as material from the center and ground electrodes is slowly eroded away. As the gap between these two points grows, the voltage required to bridge the gap increases proportionately. Even the best ignition systems will be strained to supply enough voltage to completely burn the fuel. It is at this point, when fuel is being left unburned, that the time has come to change spark plugs.

    Replacing worn out spark plugs with new ones (with sharp new edges) effectively restores the ignition system's efficiency. Misfires are reduced, power is restored, economy of operation is enhanced and emissions are reduced.

    The best guide is the manufacturer's recommendation for your vehicle, as this particular service varies from brand to brand and model to model. In the absence of this information or in conjunction with it, you can rely on the advice of a mechanic who is familiar with your type of vehicle. In the best of all worlds, this would be a mechanic who is also familiar with the vehicle you own. If you find a good mechanic, whether dealer or independent, stick with him. The better he knows your personal vehicle, the better he will be able to diagnose and service it. The end result is very much like a doctor-patient relationship and, in the long run, you will have a healthier vehicle."

    i would stick with the manual. regardless, its always nice having a new set of plugs, and is usually a cheap and easy maintence. ;)
  • hhubardhhubard Member Posts: 2
    I am curious about the advantage of upgrading my new 4X4 '06 2.7L 5 speed Tacoma. Has anyone done this for a daily driver for little or no off road use. I like to maximize my toys but don't want to regret my decision.

    Thanks for your input.
  • cncmfgcncmfg Member Posts: 11
    i usually start with: www.google.com

    then type: "K&N"

    then after some menu surfing you end up here:

    http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=63-9026

    oh yea and after that you go here:

    http://shop.knfilters.com/KNShop/Product.aspx?pid=63-9026

    then you read the price $321.04 ( and note that .04 )for a whopping 7.41 dyno prooven hp@!

    $43.32

    thats what your spending per poney. but whos is really raping you is on the sales manager who upped that price a whole .04 cents.

    i think you have your answer :);)
  • hhubardhhubard Member Posts: 2
    Thanks for the good info.
  • boone88rrboone88rr Member Posts: 194
    Not all of the new model Tacomas come with Iridium plugs. If your manual says change them at 30k miles, then you do not. Change them at 30k and if you want put some Iridiums in there then and don't change them for another 100k.

    BTW Toyota uses Denso spark plugs.
  • msibillemsibille Member Posts: 275
    Just FYI-
    While it would seem a simple thing to "upgrade" to iridium or platinum if the engine was originally supplied without, I learned that it's not always a good idea, even if using the plug mfr's recommendations. I had a 1994 Suzuki Sidekick- great vehicle, but I "upgraded" to platinum plugs on my first plug change and had to eventually toss 'em as it ran like fecal matter. Performance and fuel economy was much better with the "std" plug.
    That may not be the case w/ all vehicles, but I am going to keep the same type as delivered on the vehicle
  • ba_ba_booeyba_ba_booey Member Posts: 5
    I bought a 2005 Tacoma in June of 05. Absolutely love it. Have had sedans for a few year prior, but then opted to give the car to my wife and go for a 6 speed. I have enjoyed it immensely.

    I also have Sirius in the cab now and rather than have to use the FM transmitter and fight the local channels on random ends of the dial (feels like every channel is taken in Boston) I wanted to install an FM Modulator Relay (img below: link title ) offered by a few vendors. Harmon Kardon and Directed Electronics both make one. Goal is to have the line out from the satellite receiver and then when the satellite is on it will feed the stereo through its antenna. When the sat is off, the FM resumes as it would normally.

    I am somewhat new to the truck behind its dash and want to know if anyone could give me a sense for where/who I can get to the 05's antenna link to the stereo? Do I remove the stereo plate and if so how w/o cracking a $300 part?

    Any thoughts greatly appreciated. Thanks! :confuse:

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  • boone88rrboone88rr Member Posts: 194
  • pab5pab5 Member Posts: 20
    Has anyone attempted to install running lights after purchase? I have a 06 Taco Prerunner SB
  • pab5pab5 Member Posts: 20
    I have checked tirerack and have found similar comments about the Dunlop 265/65/17 tires. Unfortunatly there does not appear to be any oter tires in that size that appear to have better ratings. Has anyone discovered a suitable tire in this size for this great truck.
    PS. I only have 800 miles on my set so I can not comment on them.
    Thanks!
  • ba_ba_booeyba_ba_booey Member Posts: 5
    boone88rr-

    Thank you a ton! This could not be more perfect in terms of instructions. I assume you were essentially doing the same thing but with an ipod relay? Did you also need to have the antenna go through a bypass?

    Thanks a ton!
    booey
  • boone88rrboone88rr Member Posts: 194
    Glad I could help.

    This was actually not my write-up, just another member with a good description and pictures on how to remove the radio.

    I installed something similar to him. It is just an iPod adapter that plugs into the unused cd changer port in the back of the stock radio.

    Go Sox!
  • bowen1bowen1 Member Posts: 12
    Look into the revo's by Bridgedtone. They have the best ratings. I run the 265-70-17 and really like them. Real quite and smooth, blackwalls out on stock chromed sport wheels. :D
  • boone88rrboone88rr Member Posts: 194
    I have Toyo Open Country A/T tires on mine. Tire Rack doesn't carry them so that's why there is no rating. I love them. They've been great so far in the little snow and ice we've had this year. I have 16's so I'm running 265/70/16 but they also make a 265/70/17 which will fit as well. Consumer Reports rated them just under the Revo. They rated the Nitto Terra Grappler #1. Nitto and Toyo are the same company just use different branding. The Toyo's are also cheaper than Revo's and have a better warranty. My two c's.

    http://toyotanation.com/forum/t103636.html
  • lamikelamike Member Posts: 27
    I couple of weeks back I spoke to Doug at SOS turbo about this S/C thing. He stated that TRD as well as most who are looking into this are not having much luck with keeping the 4.0 liter together using more than 4psi boost. It seems that the bottom end (rods and pistons) is soft and cannot stand up to the extra boost. He also said that at 4psi you are looking at only about 40-50 hp so the gains may not be worth the cost of the S/C. He thinks it may be selling for 5-6K. That's too much for 40 hp.

    He stated that SOS is looking into dropping a supercharged Lexus V8 into the Tacoma engine compartment instead. If they are successful, and you can afford it, you may be able to squeeze out 400-450 hp since the Lexus V8 is a strong and reliable engine.

    The only other option is to beef up the bottom end of the 4.0 with aftermarket components and increase the boost to 8-10 psi. With that you may get an extra 100 hp from the 4.0 (at cost).

    I wouldn't hold my breath for the TRD S/C. Hopefully someone will come out with a bottom end kit and S/C that could be used to get some usable horsepower at a reasonable price.

    :shades:
  • cncmfgcncmfg Member Posts: 11
    The Toyota GR engine family is a V6 piston engine series. The GR series has a 60° die-cast aluminum cylinder block but the steel cylinder liners are cast-in-place, it also has aluminum DOHC cylinder heads. It uses MFI fuel injection, has 4 valves per cylinder with bucket tappets and features a forged steel connecting rods, a one-piece cast camshaft, and a cast aluminum intake manifold.

    The fact that it’s running 10:1 compression is reason enough for lower boost. I have yet to figure out the strength of the pistons, I doubt their forged.

    I have contacted Toyota, and have contacted TRD, who both confirmed that an S/C will be coming out for the 1GR-FE come spring of 06.

    For those of you who aren’t familiar with manufacturing, I work in the Workholding industry. iam an CMTSE (Certified Machine Tool Engineer) and sell the chucks and tools Toyota TRD, Eaton, Vortech, GM and a whole host of other automotive manufacturers use in their CNC machines to manufacture their parts. Iam not saying I have some inside line with any of them. But I would trust Toyota, and TRD, and Eaton's word, over "Doug" with no name Turbo CO.

    But to my point. Iam not familiar with Doug, or SOS turbo. But I wouldn’t hold his opinion too highly. Maybe he is just trying to up sell you into a v8 Lexus motor for your truck, and then again maybe he’s just talking out his [non-permissible content removed].

    Here is another little factoid for you:

    TRD Superchargers - Dealer-installed TRD Supercharger systems are warranted by TRD for 12 months or for the remainder of the vehicle's Toyota Powertrain Warranty when installed by a Toyota dealer.
    The TRD supercharger warranty covers not only the defective dealer-installed TRD supercharger, but also any Toyota-warranted part that is damaged or caused to fail by the defective dealer-installed TRD part.

    So, regardless if the bottom end isn’t built to hold out. Not my problem. that’s something for Toyota and trd, to deal with..

    Oh yes one more thing... this is where Doug was really talking out his [non-permissible content removed]... 5-6k for a supercharger, I highly doubt it. Have you ever seen a super charger sell for 5-6k? I don’t think novi 2000's even sell for that much. Let’s compare the price of the 00-04 supercharger, which is aprox $2500-$3000. It’s not a flux capacitor. And worst case scenario, it does cost 5-6 grand; it won’t stay that way for long if others start making aftermarket blowers. Their not going to spend money on R&D to make a blower that’s not going to be competivly priced.

    and rather than spit out HP estimates on a part that’s not even out yet.... lets once again reference the 00-04 s/c. those were producing 60-70hp, and im sure allot more torque. And the torque is what really matters at the end of the day, not the hp. not trying to drag race my truck, I have an lT4 for that.

    thanks for your opinion.
  • gonesurfinggonesurfing Member Posts: 5
    The rear end didn't change the noise at all. The dealer changed the transmission and transfer case fluid to synthetic since it was difficult to shift while cold. The new fluid fixed the shifting problem and now the noise is much better.
  • searayguysearayguy Member Posts: 14
    Does anyone have 16"x9" wheels on their Tacoma 4x4 with 265/75/16 tires? If so, any rubbing problems?
  • priscprisc Member Posts: 16
    Hi folks!

    My family and I just when to the Washington DC auto show last weekend. My kids (9 & 5) fell in love with the idea of a pickup truck, namely the Tacoma. I’ve been interested in possibly purchasing a pickup for a while. So, I started doing a little research on reviews, write up and the option packages.

    I currently drive a 1996 5spd manual camry. This car has been very dependable, great on gas but a bit boring. I’ll probably hold on to the camry as a back/commuter car. Currently my commute is only 4miles one way; but, it has been as bad as 35 miles one-way. Anyway, I’m looking at the Tacoma to be a fun vehicle to drive and something that we take on family camping trips (pulling a 3000lb popup) and vacations.

    So, I’m interested in the 2WD, Pre-Runner V6 crew-cab. I’m leaning towards the long bed right now. Since this will be a family type truck, I’d like the following options:

    Vehicle stability control (VSC)
    Side curtain air bags (SCA)
    Towing package
    One of the sport package (just for fun :shades: ).

    The problem I’m having is, based on the eBrochure available from Toyota’s web site, the only way I can get VSC & SCA is with:

    4x4 Double Cab V6 5-Speed Auto SB (7594); MSRP* Starting At: $25,115.00
    & Option Combo F $5,435.00

    So, instead of looking at a $25K LB 4x2 truck I would have to get a $30K SB 4x4 truck :mad: . I realize no one is paying close to MSRP on the Tacoma these days.

    Does any one you if the Tacoma’s can be special ordered with packages not shown in the eBrochure? If this is done, would I have to pay MSRP?

    Does anyone with a SB double cab really feel that they should have gotten a LB version?
    Does anyone with a LB double cab really feel that they should have gotten a SB version?

    Has anyone made the trade-off as to whether a 4x4 is real worth the extra up front $ and money at the pump?

    I’d appreciate any and all comments.

    Thanks in advance,
    Jack
  • raswankraswank Member Posts: 56
    What is the difference in height if any of a 265/75 R16 or a 265/70 R17
  • raswankraswank Member Posts: 56
    70 series or 60 series. I like the polished look. Are they both obnoxiously loud.
  • lamikelamike Member Posts: 27
    Actually, SOS has been working with TRD and have a good relationship with them. If he tells me that he's destroyed 3 engines in testing while trying to determine the safest level of boost I have to go on his word.

    Also, we all know that TRD has some of the highest prices around for their add-on equipment so 5K for an S/C is not out off the question. Shopping vendors may get you a better price.

    Why don't you give him a call, don't take my word for it! You can get his number via the link below.

    Also, I forgot to mention that SOS has a nice rear disk brake kit for anyone who's interested.
    :shades:

    http://www.sosperf.com
  • pab5pab5 Member Posts: 20
    Has anyone out there had experience with the Borla Exaust?
  • boone88rrboone88rr Member Posts: 194
    Well Alpine Developments has been in touch with us about making a S/C for the 2.7 (Why??? Who the hell knows.) They are the original manufacturer for the previous generation 2.4/2.7 S/C that TRD just rebadged. Haven't heard any progress on that one and they said they would begin work on a 4.0 S/C after that. My guess is that unless TRD is going to another source the only S/C this spring will be a 2.7.

    http://toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109696

    I don't know anything about SOS other than I don't like the way the Tundra kit looks and also the point that cncmfg made, if it craps out, you are outta luck.
  • tjyodertjyoder Member Posts: 22
    We have the SB Double Cab 4x4 off road package (manual - love it). We have a 1985 Toy pickup and a 1991 4runner. This truck is LONG. If you are not used to driving a big vehicle this truck will seem huge - although the turning radius is better than my altima. I have yet to have an issue with the size of the SB. If you get the LB you are looking at a lot of truck. You may want to measure your garage and make sure you can even fit it in there.

    As for the options - I would probably go to a local dealer and find out exactly what packages are built for your area. Once you know what packages are available I'd get on the internet and start getting some competitive pricing. In general you probably can get about $500 over invoice. Thats what I paid and then I had another $150 in doc fees and other BS - but that price included the advertising charge which a lot of dealers don't include as part of the invoice price. If the package you want is not available in your area - it may be available in another area if you are willing to travel. My understanding is Toyota will not "custom" create a vehicle that is not part of their assembly line - but take that statement with a grain of salt.
  • pb2themaxpb2themax Member Posts: 471
    An R16 is for a 16" wheel. R17 is for 17" wheel. You have to decide what size wheel you want first.

    The 75 will be about 1" taller in diameter than the 70, which means the radius is 1/2" taller. It will raise your truck 1/2" more off the ground.

    Use the bottom part of this tire size calculator to compare different tire sizes.

    http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp
  • raswankraswank Member Posts: 56
    Let me clarify my question. I have the 16 inch rims that come on the TRD OFF ROAD Tacoma with 265/75 B.F.Goodrich All Terrains. I want to put the 17 inch clearcoated rims back on the truck that came with my Sport with a 265/70 R17's on it. Wanted to know how much height difference there was. And there really isn't much at all thank you.
  • ltmarltmar Member Posts: 45
    I believe it is safe to say that Toyota does not custom create Tacomas.
    I wanted a Dbl Cab V-6 4x4 6sp TRD Sport without the CD changer. Within seconds I was told that that wasn't a typical build without the CD Changer. That could drastically increase wait times. I agreed to the $200 changer and was told that I could choose any color I wanted and expect delivery in 30 to 60 days. I placed the order.
    The next business day, the dealer called and told me that the only truck meeting my mechanical specs for this region in the next 60 days was going to be in my third color choice. I was OK with the color so it wasn't a big deal. If I hadn't agreed to the color change, the dealer couldn't have given me any promise on delivery date at that time.
    The truck came in properly equipped with a total wait of 31 days so I believe the dealer was truthful throughout the process.
    I paid $500 over invoice with better trade-in than I expected. That is just how this dealer operates. They could get more as they only had one Tacoma on the lot. They had plenty of V8 Tundras though.
  • cncmfgcncmfg Member Posts: 11
    pretty sure EATON is making the s/c for the 4.0l. i was considering contacting them, iam fairly sure they made the s/c for the 3.4l also.
  • riverrat1riverrat1 Member Posts: 12
    Does anyone with a SB double cab really feel that they should have gotten a LB version?
    Does anyone with a LB double cab really feel that they should have gotten a SB version?

    Hey Jack,
    When I got my Tacoma, the whole idea was to get smaller, down from the full sized GMC I had. A friend talked me into the double cab, which now, I'm really happy I went for. After going with the 4 door, I looked at the SB, because I was still trying to stay small. In my opinion, that size bed is kind of a joke. For some the SB may fit them, but that was just too small for me and what I was used to doing with a truck. In the end, the double cab with the LB was just about the same as the old GMC. BUT, its not like turning an air craft carrier, like the GMC seemed to be at times. I have not regretted the length of the truck. I would have been mad at myself if I went to haul something and couldn't because I went with the short bed/box. Just my two cents.
    Good luck, let us know how you make out.
    Bob
  • rsjrsj Member Posts: 12
    I was wondering if anybody else's has noticed oil collected in the catch pan, under the oil filter. The dealer just told me that a drainage hole was clogged. If this is true where does this oil drain to? If it drains to the engine or oil pan, wouldn't dirt and debris collect there also? Seems to be a questionable design.

    Thanks for your responses!
  • pb2themaxpb2themax Member Posts: 471
    It doesn't drain down into the engine. It has a little cap on the bottom. You pull off the cap, and then stick a little bottle under it to catch any oil. I use a 20 oz Coke bottle to catch it, and then throw it away after the oil change. Then put the cap back on the bottom. Look at it and you'll see what I mean.
  • bigman016bigman016 Member Posts: 3
    I have a automatic 2005 tacoma double cab short bed trd offroad package. Just over 8000 miles on her, and the windshield crack from the center on the bottom across the driver side, and the drivers side rear shock/leaf spring squeaks... Also the exhaust has a "bell/tinnie" sounds at certain rpm. The dealership is boggled on the exhaust noise and is ordering new parts for it, but did anyone have any problems regarding the windshield or shock/leaf spring? :sick: Also occasionly it gives me a little sputter when it starts cold some mornings Can this be a :lemon: ????
  • srandytsrandyt Member Posts: 35
    The solid stick is definitely a feature to make it worth looking into. I am concerned by the URD warning about the setscrews for the extension falling into the transmission!!! :surprise:
  • srandytsrandyt Member Posts: 35
    I just tried to install a set of Bushwacker flares on my 4WD Offroad V6. None of the nuts that go on the bolts for the outside are the same thread. Anybody else run into this. Also, the bolts don't go through the body to tie anything down. They are cosmetic only.
  • jjkostjjkost Member Posts: 2
    Hello,

    I just took a 2006 Tacoma (DC w/ 6 spd) on a test drive at my local Toyota dealer. I was disappointed with the seat height position. I felt I was sitting too low inside the cab. There appears to be no height adjustment. I've never felt this low in a vehicle (seat) before.
    Are there any fixes out there to raise the Taco's seat height? I love the truck, but I am hesitant to buy because of the seat height.
    Thanks in advance for your response.

    Thank you,
    Jim
  • cncmfgcncmfg Member Posts: 11
    Does anyone with a SB double cab really feel that they should have gotten a LB version?
    Does anyone with a LB double cab really feel that they should have gotten a SB version?

    I purchased the SB double cab trd sport. my biggest reasoning behind the decision was seeing the double cab long bed parked next to my friends Dodge Ram 1500, the Double cab long bed was maybe 6-8 in shorter in over all legnth than my buddys Dodge, i really wanted a compact truck, my Rig before was a lifted v8 grand cherokee. so i was in the market for small and sporty, the other big factors, were will i ever be towing that much? turning radius. and MPG. for what im using the truck for, im glad i did not pick the long bed. i just got done packing 4 snowboards, 4 people and all their gear into my double cab short bed. no problems whatso ever. i dont regret getting my short bed, just know you cant fit a 161 snowboard into it longway ;)

    aaron
  • gandalf1gandalf1 Member Posts: 62
    I have a 4x4 DC short bed and totally pleased with it. A long bed here in suburbia would have been a major hassle in most parking lots. I bought a not-quite-full-sized truck because I didn't want that extra length, so why muck it up by buying the long bed? And another concern - I can fit my DC SB in my standard size garage and still have room to walk in front of it, which wouldn't have been the case had I bought a LB.

    I agree with one of the many reviews I read before I bought my truck: IF you need a LB then buy it, if not, buy the SB as it's much easier to drive in tight quarters.
  • alb2alb2 Member Posts: 5
    I just had my friendly Toyota mechanic install the URD Short Shifter kit in my 6 speed manual 05 Tacoma. It took 0.7 hours or 32 minutes (first one he had done).

    Reverse was difficult to shift into at first but it seems to be getting easier as I use it, or I am getting better at it.

    One issue: the clearance between the steel transmission tunnel of the truck floor and the bolt in the bottom right corner of the kit was insufficient when the transmission was under heavy load (happened in first and second gears mainly) resulting in a horrible steel rubbing steel grinding sound at times. However it did not take long to figure the problem out. The solution was to bend the transmission tunnel steel up a bout 1/8" to provide more clearance.

    After that bug was worked out, I am happy with it as there is a noticeable improvement in the shifts and the shift throws are about half of what they were.
  • rhoymerhoyme Member Posts: 10
    I'm looking at a new '05 Tacoma X-cab (not double cab), a base 4x4 model. It's new, but an '05. The sticker price is $23,900 and the dealer is asking sticker price, says there are no incentives on it. Says it's a popular model, but why hasn't this '05 been sitting on his lot for months unsold if it's such a popular model? What should I expect to pay for this vehicle? The Edmunds TMV doesn't list new '05s anymore. Any advice would be appreciated.
  • boone88rrboone88rr Member Posts: 194
    There is no way you should be paying sticker price on a 2005 model at this point. I don't care how popular they are. I bought the same truck last May and got it for $2500 off MSRP. Tell them you want it for $20,900 or you are going to buy a Frontier for the same price (not that you should or would buy a Frontier but they may bite). Hell if you are going to pay sticker you might as well get a 2006 with the exact package options and color you want.
  • priscprisc Member Posts: 16
    Hi folks!

    Thanks for all your helpful responses, comments and suggestions. I test drove 3 different Tacomas (all DBL cab,1 was SB 2WD, 2nd was LB 4WD and 3rd was SB 4x4 w/ 6spd). Coming from driving a '96 camry and 2000 Odyssey, the LB in definitely intimidating to park/maneuver at times. Although I keep on wondering for another $500 or so it might make sense to have the extra room.

    My wife keeps telling me, for the few times we might need the extra room to haul stuff we can always rent a uhaul.

    Anyway, after test driving the Tacomas I stopped by a Honda dealership and took a Ridgeline out for a spin. Man, that is one cool/comfortable truck!

    After coming home and sharing my glee with my wife she quickly brought me back down to earth with the following points:
    1) The Ridgeline is wider than our Odyssey. We would be able to comfortably fit the Odyssey and this truck in our garage (width wise).
    2) The Ridge line cost more and has a lower MPG rating.
    3) This is the first year for the Ridgeline (as a possed to the second year for the Tacoma), it probably doesn't make sense to buy the Ridgeline this year.
    4) The Ridgeline only comes in AWD.

    Oh well...

    BTW, does anyone know where I could rent a Taco dbl cal 2005 or 2006 truck for a couple of hours or a day or two. I thought it might make sense to drive the Taco around, parking it in our driveway and maybe go back and forth to work with it before making a final decision.

    Also, I haven't been able to the the invoice price for the Taco from Edmunds. I've heard a lot of people say they paid maybe $500 above invoice but I don't see where they got that information.

    Edmunds only seems to list the "What other people are paying" price.

    Regards,
    Jack
  • pb2themaxpb2themax Member Posts: 471
    No need to rent a Taco. Just take one for a test drive. My dealer let me take home a double cab to keep overnight before we made a decision. Just ask the salesman or manager. They shouldn't have a problem, if they want to make a sale.
  • msibillemsibille Member Posts: 275
    Short Bed vs Long- Your wife may be correct. Besides the trailer option, you can use a HitchHaul or equiv (carrier that fits receiver hitch) or install a Bed Extender (Westin) or Bed Expander (TopLine Mfg) which adds another 16 or 18 inches to the effective bed length by providing sides and rear cage walls when you drop the tailgate. (FYI- at this point, the Westin product is easier to install. I've got the TopLine and it's great, but the mfr is looking into making the add'l hdwe to install on a Taco. I had to custom make mine. Yes, I know, that seems stupid, but my wife bought it for Christmas and I wasn't gonna tell her that she got the wrong thing. It's great now, and if TopLine comes out w/ the necessary spacers, etc. it'll be a good item for the Taco.)

    Ridgeline is kinda cool, but the items you listed are also things I don't care for (although I thought this was 2nd year for Ridgeline). You'd be amazed at how much stuff you can stow in a Taco w/ the behind the seat, under the rear seat, and cargo box storage areas. I don't remember all of what I've got stowed. ;)

    As for quality- for 25 yrs I heard what great quality Honda has - hasn't shown us in our Ody. Hope you've had better luck. We've stuck w/ it because my wife loves the features, but even she admits she won't buy another Honda for her next vehicle. 4 transmission designs in 4 yrs, and still having retrofits is not a good record.
  • wooddorkerwooddorker Member Posts: 300
    "I installed something similar to him. It is just an iPod adapter that plugs into the unused cd changer port in the back of the stock radio."

    SKIP THE FM MODULATOR! Go with the aux input mentioned above. The installation effort is the same, teh operation is just as simple, and the sound quality is much better.

    You've been advised... ;)
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