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funny that you got that truck in the GST region. i tried to order that exact spec in white in Texas. got nothing but lies when i checked on the status of the vehicle. said none were coming in with the curtain airbags.
where'd you get yours?
Another thing. My door sill protector is a plastic piece that covers both the top and the side of the painted bottom, not just a piece of tape that covers the top part only. That's why I was glad to pay the $115 for the option rather than the $80 quoted by Toyota, which only mentions carpet.
I hate GST's monopoly. They kind of dictate what you can drive in TX.
It looks like I got ripped off. Consider though, that I am in the Seattle area and prices might be more here? I am going to call Extra Care myself to confirm that it can be canceled and purchased again later.
The dealer told me that they charge even more as in $400-600 more for someone buying a completely new vehicle(probably a lie) and how my price was so good....haha. Well they are about to lose their profit on it!
Leo
Thanks, you helped me save approx $600 by giving me that info on the warranty. Dealers rip people off on those things and thankfully we CAN get our money back. I am going straight to the dealer and am going to take care of it.
FYI, anyone else in the same situation...call Toyota Extra Care 800-228-8559 and they will guide you through how to write the cancellation and give you a fax number.
side curtain airbags were my must-have option. with the Mad Max drivers around here in the DFW area i want all the protection i can get. apparently GST doesn't value my life or my family's as much as i do. i'm not surprised.
It's a big profit for them if they can get you to buy it. They go back to the "monthly payment" because it looks cheaper than telling you up front how much it's going to cost. They wanted to add $4200 to my loan to give me the warranty, lowjack, and all that other crap, and I said, heck no. That comes out to $5221 when added to an auto loan at 4.45%! You've got to be kidding me, right? Like I wouldn't figure out how much $70 added to my monthly would come out to?
Heck, if the flippin' engine blew up in it, I could buy a brand new one for cheaper than that! What about the transmission? It's not worth it. Personally, if someone steals my truck, I don't want the police to find it, because most likely, they have torn the thing up while doing so.
They even try and sell you gap insurance, which if your putting 9K down like I did, is pointless, but they don't tell you that. Before I really understood how it worked, we did the same thing on my wife's car, and paid for it, even though we put a substantial amount down on the car.
I hate buying new cars. You have to fight for everything, and they act like your taking food off their table. Personally, it almost turns me off to new car buying enough, to just always buy second hand.
Guess that's enough of my rant.
Tell the dealer you want a new truck. Drive up there in your F-150 and gripe them out everyday about your brand new truck, and that they have had it for more than a month. Do all this while out in the open showroom, and I bet something will get done quick.
Talk to your salesperson about it and ask them what they are doing about it.
i thought mine would be fully refunded after i sold my car this week. WRONG. the crooks told me that the extended warranty that i bought was concurrent with the factory. so they stole $500 from me. none of this was explained to me during the purchase.
read the fine print. don't be rushed. and don't give the crooks a dime but for the vehicle itself. everything else can be bought later (and usually much cheaper) as you now know.
The warranties are pure dealer's profit, and the true sales guy in there is the finance guy.
http://www.toyotapart.com/
and
http://www.trdparts4u.com/
TRD parts has been cheaper on every quote that I have gotten so far. But they are in Texas and Toyota parts is in Michigan (closer to me) so likely after all the shipping it will work out to be the same.
Another issue was that I bought my 2005 used with 740 miles on it. The Salesman had explained to me it was a Toyota Certified Used Car, so no worries with the mechanics, etc. After looking into that later, it was NEVER documented as Certified and that had previously been explained to be included in the price(although not written). Can you believe that?! They had some smart comebacks to that dilemma later and that set me back, because I believed them.
When I cancelled the Platinum warranty, I explained to them my issue with the Certified Used. All of a sudden they are going to certify it, with the cancellation of the Platinum(after I show them the sticker of course..just can't take my word for it)! They better Certify the truck, considering I have the window sticker with the VIN saying it was "Certified." That will further drop the price for a future extended warranty. The Toyota Certified Platinum will be around $900. So I really saved $900!
Thanks for your help!
Check your gas station pumps and you will see R+M/2. Basically, The R is the characteristics of the fuel in a single piston engine at low RPM. The M is the same but at high RPM. It gets complicated to breifly explain so here is the bottom line. If you use higher octane gas, the burn rate is slower and it can be compressed more before detonation by compression. This is important in higher compression engines like the newer 05 Tacoma. So octane is basically how fast it burns or explodes and how much compression it can take before it explodes. The 05 Tacoma manual says to fuel with 91 or higher octane and I suggest you do that. The small expense is worth the lower mechanical stresses.
Another thing: I had the privelage of talking with an inspector that tests everyone's gas! Note that all the gas for all different stations comes from the SAME 3 PIPES!!! It is the same gasoline! Do not be fooled, they are all tested and fall in the same characteristics.
That's what I can't stand about buying a new car. They try and get you with the price of the car, then the financing, then the warranties/extras.
It's hard to go in there, because you feel bad for not buying into it, and they make you think you are really turning something down. But, when it's all said and done, you're better off getting the warranty later. I stopped feeling bad for anyone in a car dealership when I bought my first semi-new (used) car from a dealer, and after the deal, I felt ripped off. After that day, I decided, that I won't let that happen again. They know people need cars, and people will buy them, that's why they can get away with doing this to people.
You just have to be smarter than them (which, not to be mean, but usually it doesn't take much), and do your homework on what you are buying. Bring a calculator, folder with all your calculations with every possible option (in case you change your mind while there, or you can't get exactly what you want, you'll still know the invoice for each option). It also doesn't hurt to get a couple of auto quotes from your bank and credit union. My CU ended up being more than 1/2% lower than what the dealer was going to offer me, and I have a very good credit score.
You have to be firm with them, and if they won't come down, keep telling you you're taking food off their table, get up and leave. Oh, and yeah, that's another thing. Never give them your driver's license for copying, take a copy with you, never let them "look over your used trade-in" while making the deal on the truck. Don't give them a credit card for deposit, or a check, until you've made the deal. If you give them any of these, I certainly bet that they will hold onto it longer than you like, which may keep you from leaving. The crap about them wanting to "get a deposit to let him know you are serious" is BS. I wouldn't be in here making a deal with you if I wasn't serious! Man. This get's me worked up every time...
I'm glad you guys were able to cancel your warranties. Seems strange they would scam you like that, then give you an out. You guys should consider yourselves lucky!
That's all for now. 10-4
Could you rephrase that? It sounds like you are saying that gas from different gas stations all come from the same place, but I'm not sure, because beforehand, you were talking about octane.
Also, when you hear an engine knocking, this can be because you are not using a high enough octane in an engine that requires it.
Like miketacoma said, it can withstand higher compression, which if you are using a lower octane gas, the engine expects that it can compress the gas so much, before it explodes, and if it was designed for higher octane, then the explosion can come before it's meant to, and that's why you get knocking, because a piston may be slightly out of tune with the cam shaft, or the like.
I have heard of engines adjusting themselves to this knocking (to prevent it) which in this case, the only bad thing is performance and lower gas mileage.
I'd definately get it to the service department....shaking can just mean it needs an alignment or rebalancing on the wheels. (Minor stuff but will damage the wheels if not corrected.)
Good Luck!
Boo
In regards to the OCTANE discussion...I just bought 'Outlaw' octane booster that had 4 indiv cans, one for each tank for $9.99. My calculations indicate it would save approx $3.80 per tank vs super unlead. I am going to keep shopping though for better deals on the booster.
Also, practically every vechicle I've ever had pinged on reg unleaded. Even those designed to run on it. Some manufacturers claim pinging to be normal, Ford is an example. Every vehcile always ran better on super as well.
but, if your truck is Certified Used shouldn't it come with an extended warranty as part of the deal?
most Certified Used that i have seen from car companies extend the warranty as part of the deal. so you could've been paying $1800 for nothing. i'm very glad that you got it back.
reference note 2 on the following link http://www.toyotacertified.com/usedinvsearch.psp . says 6yr/100,000mile powertrain warranty for Certified Used among other things. get all of those things from your dealer and report them to http://www.bbb.org/ if necessary. these guys really tried to swindle you.
show them how you feel
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they look pretty good and will protect your vehicle. as far as their value...that's debatable. i could live without them. but, i'll likely keep them on.
here's the link to mine since my pic posts just won't cooperate
http://profiles.yahoo.com/toytruck2005
My wife is 5'1" and loves the steps and definately uses them and that great handgrip on the door jam.
This used to be a big deal with vw's - german made (better) or usa. toyo is beefing up their production in tijuana but i dont remember if it is taco
I just remembered that the man in finance lied about the Platinum I just cancelled. He told me once it was cancelled, I could not get it back. I cannot understand how a business can be run on lying to the public. It really needs to stop.
I got them because I thought I'd use them to get in. It turns out I rarely use them -- I just step over them as I normally would to get in (and I'm not tall). Even my wife says she doesn't use them. I guess we both were under the impression they would be more helpful.
But anyway, like you, I think they look nice, but I probably would not have bought them knowing that I wouldn't use them. We'll see if it helps with rocks, etc.
Where are you guys purchasing your exten warrantee's??? I went on-line and the only one that came up was Warrantee Center with T Bradshaws picture on it 84/100,000 0 deduct for $1750 (for silverado 2005 5.3 extend cab)
I Know this is not a Tacoma, but I bet you guys can answer my question...
thanks, tom
I also stated that I was thinking about getting a 3.23 with my new purchase since I don't do much "heavy" trailer pulling (less then 5,000) for short distances (less then 100 miles round trip)
So: my question I got on e-mail from one of the "dealers" I am working with and after telling him I preffered a 3.23 for Increase "every day driver" MPG. Well he came back and stated "MPG between 3.23 and 3.73 is LESS then 1MPG"
I think this is TOTAL Bogus info
Again, I know this is a Tacoma site, but I know many of you and I too am thinking of changing to a Tacoma and also can answer my question..
thanks, tom
Check out Toyota's warranty prices at Toyota.com under Financial services. You will have to type in some information, submit, then click on VSA which will bring up prices. You can purchase the warranties for less than Toyota's prices apparently.
Toyota.com lists the basic Certified extended warranty for $900 with $0 deductable. The Platinum Certified is $1250. What are the invoice prices?
Thanks
My 05 Tacoma (Access Cab/V-6/TRD Off Road Package #2) was built in mid-Dec in California and just went over 1,000 miles.
I have had zero problems with it....no water leaks, no strange noises, doors shut great, etc.
I would check the build date (located on driver's side door jam) to ensure it wasn't built before December.
If you are thinking of a Tacoma, keep in mind you don't get to choose the rear-end on a Taco like you do with Chevy--it's strictly determined by the base model you choose. "Mix and Match" is not something Toyota does.
Heck, we don't even get a choice on air bags. Guess you gotta buy a Kia if you want to be protected!
I have a V6 Mazda in thich 91+ octane is recommended. However I notice little, if any, difference when I use 87 octane. There is no knocking either.