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If that's your question...yeah, that's possible. Mitsubishi Eclipse was famous for that.
How about the "squeegee" rubber seal that sits on the top of the door where the window runs down through it?
Has the door panel been off for repairs recently? if so, did anyone put back the clear plastic moisture barrier?
My carpet on both passenger and driver sides (in front) is soaked after a recent heavy rainfall. Seems that passenger side is much worse. But I don't know where the water is coming from. Continues to be wet even though rain stopped several days ago.
This hasn't happenend before. My car (bought new from a dealer) hasn't been driven much and only has 35,000 miles on it. No accidents or anything.
I've had the sunroof drains cleaned and the air vents below the windshield unclogged. The Honda dealer I took it to says it's the windshield seal at the top/bottom, but auto glass places say that's very unlikely. What could it be?
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
The floor in the back seat is damp, I haven’t really looked into that thinking maybe they are somewhat related but I’m probably wrong about that because the dampness is still there after the plug was taken out of the trunk. Any input on that would also be helpful.
INTERIOR LEAK: You can easily test the sunroof drains and fresh air vent drains with a cup of water...you should see it spilling out behind the front wheel (for the fresh air vents) and depending on your sunroof drains, at the A Pillar or C pillar, (some sunroofs have two drains per side).
I agree, windshield gasket leak is unlikely...more likely is that the fresh air drains get clogged and then you've got a fish tank in there, so it can leak even after the rains have gone.
Also, has anyone been in the door recently for speaker work or window work? If so, they might have forgotten to re-tape the plastic moisture barrier inside the door panel.
Another thing to check are the door drains (little holes at the bottom of the doors). If they are plugged, you'll have a little fish tank in there.
Last of all, a loose rear view mirror can cause a leak.
1. Drains in the door itself are clogged.
2. The plastic membrane that sits behind the door panel may have been removed for a repair and not replaced?
3. The rubber seal, called a squeegee, is worn/torn. This seal sits at the base of the window as the window goes into the door.
4. If you have a sunroof, the front sunroof drain is clogged, or a rubber hose inside the car's A pillar (where the windshield is glued in all the way on the right side) has slipped off its tubing.
5. the fresh air vent (under the windshield wipers) has filled with crud and tree debris and is now a fishtank in there, and needs to be cleaned out.
In order of possibility, I would check 1, then 3, then 5, then the other two.
I took my 2001 Town Car to the deler today and they said they had lots of Merc & Lincolns with this problem.
They preformed the exact fix you told about. They even took out the seats and they are keeping the car tonight and tomorrow drying the carpet. Don't yet know the cost, but this dealer was very helpful, especially about drying out the carpet as I have no garage! Bill E
Hope that does it for you. I realize you have a helpful dealer ... but please pay close attention to whether the carpet is REALLY dry on BACK side where there's a thick foam that's VERY hard to dry.
I'd sure like to know what your dealer charged $ to pull carpet & seats ... dry it .. and reinstall? Would you post cost $ here or email $ thru this forum?
- what are the likely causes of a leak only on one side?
- if it could be that the vents aren't draining properly, how to fix? and is there a reservoir in there now that we need to drain somehow?
- how to dry the carpet once the leak stops?
thanks for your wisdom.
Another possibility is a clogged sunroof drain (which would drop water from the ceiling) or a dislodged sunroof drain tube that sits behind the A pillar interior trim.
Last possibility would be a leaking windshield.
Some fresh air vent systems have a plastic removable tub reservoir in there with a gasket around it. Others are just a metal basin that is part of the car.
IF you have a sunroof, open it and look for the rear drain hole in the groove where the roof rides...pour just a little bit of water in there and see if it goes down to the ground under the car...or...into your back seat.
2) lay down newspaper in your trunk, especially in the area of the tail lights and where the trunk seal goes 'round...and then test with a hose and see if anything wet the paper. What CAN happen is that water leaks into the trunk, then you brake quickly, and it squishes into the passenger compartment under the seat.
If it is isolated to the rear seats and isn't coming from the trunk or hatch, and isn't coming from the front seat area, you had better check the rear sunroof drain (if you have a sunroof) or the rear door "squeegee" that wipes the window clean when it goes down....or the door drains...if you shake the door can you hear water in there?
drip started. Most of the water correctly drained behind the right front tire. I tried to take off the fresh air cowlings--but didnt have too much luck due to the age of the car. I even have the service manual for the car and it doesnt reference that at all
any thoughts or ideas?
Once you're in there, look for a cracked grommet or some loose seal in the firewall area...your drain might be working but might also be backing up a bit...
I recently discovered standing water under the driver seat of my GFs Honda; no work has been performed on the car door in over 6 months (I removed the speaker to check the speaker brand). I have reviewed some of the posts on this forum but need to know if it is possible to have water trickle past the speaker.
I ask this because, I have dismantled the car (driver side seat, door panel, carpeting, rear seat, and any molding that might hide a leak. The only smoking gun I turned up was the trickle of water from the speaker which was dripped on by the power mirror cabling(with hose applied to driver side door window).
What is the cause? The squegee type window seal? A leak in the mirror housing? WIndshiled leak? Possibly the vents (but wouldn't my front floor pan, also have standing water)?
Help. Any advice or just a damn good fix would be greatly appreciated.
Did you replace the plastic membrane inside the door panel or did you just tear it out? If it's not in there, that could be your problem.
If the plastic is in there, how are the door drains at the bottom of the door? Are they clear of debris?
Yes it could be the squeegee at the top of the door. I think you could test this by removing the door panel and pouring water on the window.
Usually squeegees just slide out...you just pull 'em backwards toward the rear of the car---but all cars are different...some require removal of a chrome trim piece first, so I dunno....
Plastic membrane was removed sometime ago (not sure why), I will replace with new plastic but I was able to trace the leak last night to the speaker. The water is following the wiring from the power mirror to the top of the speaker (which by the looks of the plastic membrane was never there), then out the bottom, into the floor pan.
Door drains verified clear, no debris, working well.
Checked the hood vents, verified no debris and good drainage.
I also looked underneath the car and at the floor pan for broken welds, cracks, or anything resembling a potential leak source; all looked solid.
As I am to understand the squegee's function; 'some' water should pass into the door, but exactly how much is a mystery to me; I applied the hose the the door (minus door panel) and watched approximately 30%-40% of the water to pass into the door. The water did drain through the channels but also 'my leak' traveled along the wiring of the mirror.
I am placing the order for the squegee (This Honda parts store does not stock them), but should that be the only place I look? Is it possible to have a leak from the mirror housing? Any other ideas where a leak to the driver side floor panel might come from?
In the interim I have made a makeshift umbrella inside the door to cover the speaker, if my standing water has disappeared, I may have gotten lucky(at least until I get that part).
Again, Thank you for being available, quick to reply, and a wealth of knowledge...
The squeegee will allow a little water yes. That's why you have door drains.
Since I am going to replace the squegee, I will more than likely replace the mirror gasketing. If you think it could also be a potential source (which seems logical). though, I haven't performed either repair, hopefully I can manage it.
But it is already three weeks after I got the car, it is still wet there, seems not drier at all. Yet during these weeks it had some snow and rain, and now becomes sunny again.
I really have no idea why the floor still wet! Is it b/c of the weather that made the shampooed floor so hard to dry? :confuse: :confuse: :confuse:
Help, please! Thanks!
It is odd, I do not know how could water came through there, and my speaker still works well? What should be done to repair it? Is it because of the side mirror, for I was told the first owner once replace that mirror.
Thanks again for your help! Good weekend