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Will the Lincoln Mark X concept car ever be produced?
Hello all!
Glad to be here. Just wanted to ask a simple question that no one seems to know the answer to... when is the Mark X coming out if it is?
Check it out!
http://www.autointell-news.com/News-2004/January-2004/Jan-2004-3/- - Jan-14-04-p2.htm
Go here for picture of this baaad machine!
http://www.engine-power.com/lincoln/lincoln_mark_x_concept.html
or here: (this one looks like the older(first)concept model)
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/04det_lincmarkx/
My dealer and I had worked it out that when the Mark IX came out it would be on order. But then Ford changed up and discontinued the idea and came out with the Mark X instead, which was neater and sleeker and had the fold up hard convertible top. I thought that design super, but it had no back seat to put stuff. Plus they took away the wheel hump which everybody knows, "a Mark isn't Mark without the hump."
And now there isn't anything else on whether they are going to build it or not. Just more of those family vans and SUV's and junk like that for married guys who's wives want them to settle down and be nice guys now.
Where are the luxury power cars for real guys?!
The Mark was superb! Itt was sleek, it was manly and it was FAST! Like a rocket with cat feet!
So waas up with the production of a Lincoln for the young or young at heart male. A man's car that looks like a man's car, and not these wimpy family wagons they keep putting out?
Bobby
Shoot the reason I have my Mark now is that the original owner's wife had a kid and MADE him get one - a SUV, literally a Van! That's all they are... family vehicles.
And his beautiful automobile got sold to me on the internet - and it runs as well as it did two years ago when I bought it! Aside from minor maintainence - heater, lights (yeah, that ballast thing combination was a trip) and the door locks sticking sometime. But other than that I will never get rid of this car... until they come out with another coupe like it. And I wish they'd do something about the Mark X cause that did look sharp. If they could just put a "seat" (you know where you could at least set stuff) and replace the "hump" they'd have it going on!
Bobby
Playwright/Screenwright/Director
"Write long... and write well."
(Note: I really apologize for any vulgarity or displeasure with the original post. This issue just sticks in my craw that more coupes aren't being built and all these vans and truck like vehicle keep comeing out.)
Glad to be here. Just wanted to ask a simple question that no one seems to know the answer to... when is the Mark X coming out if it is?
Check it out!
http://www.autointell-news.com/News-2004/January-2004/Jan-2004-3/- - Jan-14-04-p2.htm
Go here for picture of this baaad machine!
http://www.engine-power.com/lincoln/lincoln_mark_x_concept.html
or here: (this one looks like the older(first)concept model)
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/04det_lincmarkx/
My dealer and I had worked it out that when the Mark IX came out it would be on order. But then Ford changed up and discontinued the idea and came out with the Mark X instead, which was neater and sleeker and had the fold up hard convertible top. I thought that design super, but it had no back seat to put stuff. Plus they took away the wheel hump which everybody knows, "a Mark isn't Mark without the hump."
And now there isn't anything else on whether they are going to build it or not. Just more of those family vans and SUV's and junk like that for married guys who's wives want them to settle down and be nice guys now.
Where are the luxury power cars for real guys?!
The Mark was superb! Itt was sleek, it was manly and it was FAST! Like a rocket with cat feet!
So waas up with the production of a Lincoln for the young or young at heart male. A man's car that looks like a man's car, and not these wimpy family wagons they keep putting out?
Bobby
Shoot the reason I have my Mark now is that the original owner's wife had a kid and MADE him get one - a SUV, literally a Van! That's all they are... family vehicles.
And his beautiful automobile got sold to me on the internet - and it runs as well as it did two years ago when I bought it! Aside from minor maintainence - heater, lights (yeah, that ballast thing combination was a trip) and the door locks sticking sometime. But other than that I will never get rid of this car... until they come out with another coupe like it. And I wish they'd do something about the Mark X cause that did look sharp. If they could just put a "seat" (you know where you could at least set stuff) and replace the "hump" they'd have it going on!
Bobby
Playwright/Screenwright/Director
"Write long... and write well."
(Note: I really apologize for any vulgarity or displeasure with the original post. This issue just sticks in my craw that more coupes aren't being built and all these vans and truck like vehicle keep comeing out.)
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True, if you're the T-bird perhaps, although that car was never expected to sell much more than it did I'm told, nor for more years than it did.
The Chevy SSR is another questionable application.
Retro seems to be a go for the PT Cruiser though, with no end in sight! Just Convertibles, and turbos, and soon stretched ones, and who knows what else.
I think the secret to retro is, make it cheap, make it low tech, make it practical, universal, and make it affordable.
So many folks were used to the much lower price of entry, all the previous years. I really liked the reborn version, but not at those prices.
Lincoln really needs to get some performance back into their image. Not in the way that Caddilac is going, but ya know what I mean. Take that new 3 valve 289, er ah, 4.6, with its' 300 ponies, and replace the 239 hp 2 valver. That will be a great starting point. And offer the 5.4 as the upgrade, with 350hp, or so.
Here, here!! I am with you 150%!! I owned a VII, and now a '97 LSC and I agree - it was the BEST modern coupe built! I don't think retro is going to make it where the Mark is concerned. Partially because the Mark VII's and VIII's are STILL so current looking (if not advanced IMHO)! If FMC hadn't been tinkering so much with the T-Bird since it WAS a two seater back in the day, it wouldn't have a "retro" to look back at.! At least with the Mark series you can see a linear progression from the '40's! Evolution beats regression and retro, hands down.!! Not taking anything away from Pontiac's GTO's performance (how can you?) the "new Goat" looks like a confused misstyling at best. And I ought to know, I owned a ' 66 GTO and a ' 69 Judge! I would hate to see the next Mark suffer a fate similar to that! I really like what I have seen in the Mark IX, but I'm not so sure what is on their minds in Detroit - the Mark X looks like an attempt to "overthink" the idea. Don't downsize the darn thing, and leave it with NO HUMP that is a lot of what makes a Mark a Mark!! I'm hoping and praying they get some input, at least survey wise or something from us loyal owners, after all we WILL be the primary market!
Hello and nice to see a Lincoln thread going on here. IMHO the Mark IX is a better move for Lincoln. I'm not going to get queasy over the platform, as long as it isn't Mazda's. Mazda has gone in the direction of smaller sportier cars, they wouldn't even support the full size 929 which was WAY ahead of its' time and still looks good when you see one today! They don't get my vote if trying to do something for the Mark.
The Mark X even in concept stage already looks too much like other existing sport coupes, and less in line with Lincoln heritage than the IX. The IX retains at least a nod at the Mark series while also looking fast forward. It has the same "forwardness" that the VIII did when succeeding the Mark VII. I think Lincoln just kind of "let's hurry up and copy" the retracting roof idea a 'la Caddy, Lexus, MB, et al. The futuristic curving design of the IX also gets my vote. It looks like a futuristic LSC at least. Again, let us stay reminded of who the buyers are going to be!(previous owners and loyalists first!!) The Mark X looks a little too much like "this is where we should have gone with the T-Bird", not thinking us Lincoln owners are not looking for the next T-Bird, but a Lincoln all our own. The concept Continental that was introduced in 2001 with the IX would have made for a marketing coup by FMC IMHO as they would have complimented each other - yet maintained the Mark/Conti separateness. I do believe there will always be room for the type of car the X is - I just don't want it to be the next Mark. Perhaps Ford will rethink it as they did the Probe - which was supposed to be the "new Mustang" - until Mustang fans found out and really railed against it. Opinions please.
I am with you. Now, how can we make Ford aware of our preferences? Let start a Mark IX Fan Club. Any more ideas?
How are you? The first thing is I haven't a clue who FMC/LMC even listens to! I was on the LOD website (real cool if you are a Lincoln owner!) and it appears that their heads are really deep into the sand.! Some folks are speculating whether or not they may even continue as a company! That is stupid, but when you look at the fact that they own several foriegn brands they are trying to push (Mazda, Jaguar, Volvo, Land Rover) I wonder if they are even noticing the resurgence at Chrysler, or the performance looks Pontiac has been getting! Last I checked GM and Chrysler were still USA (albeit the GTO is Australian) brands, if you call say that nowadays! IMHO there will always be a market for American Muscle, even up to and including Lincoln!! Just make it innovative and competitive. The Mark VIII was world class when it was around, and the IX or X (ugh!!) can (should) be as well if you are chasing the other segments of the market. There are more than Mustang lovers out here! Just give the sport/luxury person something to want to own.! There is NO way that you can sell me on the notion that FMC can't build a 21st century car and NOT bring it in under the pricing of BMW or Mercedes! If they want to stay in the $60,000 and up range, then they must live with the market in that segment. Perhaps they feel that an up-level world class Lincoln will take away market share from Jag, or Volvo. I think Mazda's crowd is younger and different. Lincoln vs. Cadillac has always been a serious back and forth (I'm over 40!!), until recently as it seems that LMC gave up! Yes, the Navigator is there, and I respect the LS even though I am not an ardent fan of the car (they chased the wrong market, as any good look at who buys and drives them will show you). Caddy seems to still be aiming at the sport/performance/luxury crowd, and coming in at nearly $15,000 LESS than a lot of the competition doesn't hurt.! Run this through your head quickly: a Caddy/Lincoln owner is not going to just jump into a GTO, there's not enough luxury there, is there? In fact other than straight performance - going to Pontiac would feel like a step DOWN to the Caddy/Linc club. If going sportscar, ok, then maybe Corvette
On another note, yes it bothers me that the marketing boneheads put the Mark name on a damned truck!! It seems to me if they didn't learn with the Blackwood, that putting the Mark name on an otherwise F-150 isn't the wisest thing they could do.!! :mad: What made the Mark the car it has been for decades has always been its' uniqueness and difference from other cars out there.(shared parts nonwithstanding) Hopefully when a new Mark car is unveiled, it will be something us Mark owners will be proud of and raring to get. (FMC if you are listening, see the reception the next generation Mustangs and Corvettes got!!)
I agree misusing the Mark name was a terrible mistake.
I am a fan of the idea and concept of a Lincoln truck too!! I haven't the slightest idea why they would put the Mark name on it, perhaps for marketing or to attract first time buyers. I think the whole deal is to begin offering trucks under the Lincoln name in general. I just think if you are going to offer a truck, especially a LINCOLN one you have to offer up something good, something original,and not just try to stick your toes in the water. In today's "give me a reason to buy it" world you better come with it, or not come at all!! There are just TOO many offerings out there, and the truck market is fierce. I live in the South, and trucks down here are NO JOKE! It had better be good, it had better have some power, it had better look good from the factory, and it better be FUNCTIONAL! Look at how upscale the recent players from Japan (by way of US factories) have had to be just to get into the fray.! You have to do better than essentially an F-150 clone with Lincoln badging. At least the Blackwood was original, and had a range of options and perks. That truck today with the right engine would market. It made an emphasis on being a LINCOLN truck.! Hey, I'm a car guy, and even I was looking at that truck!
some focus group really screwed up this time on naming this well intentioned truck.
I sure wish I was there when someone proposed "Mark LT".
In my case, I was invited to participate in the Aviator focus group because I was an owner of a Navigator - and they wanted to guage if they would offend Navigator owners, by making a family of them with smaller models. Turns out, they would. We all, without exception objected to a smaller Navigator - we wanted the respect for ourselves. In retrospect, I'm not sure I would vote the same now, having seen how closely the Aviator resembles the Navigator. I didn't know it would be a clone at the time.
That is very interesting news. I'm not sure what makes them tick at FMC. Right now ALL of the automakers are hurting so I would imagine a little thinking out of the box wouldn't hurt them at all. I think as is usual with most automakers, there are at least several trains of thought. FMC is thinking beancounting (which does have its' place, but need not always be dominant) and not with their autophile hats on. I, for one, think there IS a market for a Lincoln SUV that is smaller than the Navigator, and will sell no matter what the name. As soon as they give the darned thing a little more of its' own personality, watch it go!! Okay, marketing and production may have dictated making a Navi clone to begin with, but it doesn't have to stay that way. But the badging of a truck as a Mark is another story entirely. Just think of your reaction if they used the Navigator name on a car! It just wouldn't have made sense, like the Mark name on a truck doesn't to us Mark owners. And to boot, you notice they went against 50 years or more of tradition to do so. I grant that possibly 2/3 of their r/d team probably never even knew a Mark if they are under 35, so tradition and history wasn't in the picture. I just hope they do better in the future. As I said, I'm keeping my Mark - I hope they new one is something I can buy. I will reserve judgement and new purchases until then.
I will wait for the clone of my MARK VIII.">
So THAT's why you've been absent from the TC board! No more Lincolns! We miss you over there.
I'm visiting here because I need some opinions from the general readership. The wife and our offspring won't drive the Cartier and we need something that we all can drive - although it would primarily be mine. AND, I've always wanted a Mark.
I'm looking to sell the '88 Cartier and pick up a '98 MarkIII.
I'll listen to any advice on the III. Good? Bad? Smart? Dumb?
Go for the Mark!!! First, ask yourself what you want out a a driving machine. Luxury, power, looks, gadgets, you name it. Then see if the Mark fits the bill, and I think you already know the answer to that.!! Your only problem is going to be once the other family members drive it, you aren't going to get a turn again for a LONG time.!!
You're all probably going to think I'm crazy and I must admit that I'm not real swift when it comes to cars, but I thought this might work and then someone who DOES know cars made the same suggestion.
What has happened is that the front end accident damaged the airline that went between the two compressors or the one compessor and the air bags (not sure if the configuration under there). The compessors still work and as far as I know the air bags are still good, but right now I've got a serious "Low Rider" that is only 2 inches off the ground.
It is impossible to find parts for this system, especially hoses. I'm also just trying to keep it running good for a few more months or so - CHEAPLY! I had thought that it might be possible to rig up a valve, perhaps similar to a tire valve, to the inlets for the missing/broken airline. Then if I simply air up my bags and leave them, then at least I'll be able to get around town in it.
Am I crazy? Does anyone have any reference material on where these inlets might be? This hose originally ran from under both front wheel wells and around the front of the vehicle.
Boy... it used to look REALLY nice. Noww it has a lavender hood...and rides 2 inches off the ground.
HELP! ANYONE!
Silly Little Boy :sick: