Subaru B9 Tribeca (B9X)

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  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Karen,

    I don't read through this forum topic very much, but I noticed that you are now a proud owner of a B9! Congrats! I remember you from way back when you started listing all the Forester reviews on your website.

    So how are you enjoying the new wheels? What did you end up doing with the Forester?

    Ken
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    If you are driving a Forester XT, then the B9 will feel slow. The B9 was noticeably slower than my Outback XT, which itself is a tick slower than your Forester. Is that a problem? Hard to say; the B9 is adequately powered standing on its own, and I thought it drove and handled exceptionally well. It's just going to feel slow coming from an XT. Power corrupts.

    There is a hack to play an iPod through the Forester stereo -- how are you doing it now?

    Craig
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I don't buy it, for several reasons:

    * we would have heard of it here by now
    * head gaskets and wheel bearings were more common but they don't mention those
    * brakes are way, WAY, WAAAAAAY more powerful than any engine
    * the brake interlock - your foot has to be on the brake to shift into R in the first place, so the car would not begin to move even at full power unless your foot slipped off the brake

    This quote from that site makes it completely invalid:

    "At a high rate of speed" the vehicle was uncontrollable,
    and the brakes would not hold.- It continued for about 405 feet


    Totally impossible, and they even say the car was in reverse. Redline would limit the speed even if you did floor it, and the brakes would bring the vehicle to a stop even with the engine at full power within 1/10th that distance. Do you really think it would take more than the length of a football field to stop a car limited in speed in reverse by the engine's redline (probably no more than 25mph or so)?

    I suspect what really happened is someone's foot slipped off the brake and onto the accelerator yet they're not willing to accept responsibility for the damage they caused.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Andrea: by now you're spoiled with phenomenal acceleration, did you know an XT is quicker to 60mph than a Lamborghini Countache 5000S? (source: C&D anniversary issue)

    So yeah, coming from an XT the Tribeca might seem slow. As would that Lamborghini.

    A Legacy GT Ltd wagon might be better for you.

    -juice
  • b9driverb9driver Member Posts: 118
    Subaru emailed me today and sent what was essentially a form letter saying that you can't connect an Ipod to ANY Tribeca. Now we know this is not true, since it's certainly possible on models with the DVD. So clearly I got some schmo who just send quick replies. I responded as follows...

    This really doesn't make sense to me. This is the identical unit used in the model with the DVD system and the RSE/Aux button is there and working. This means that the circuitry is there and most probably the connections. My dealer confirms this. Why not provide a method to allow those connections to be used, or at least a schematic so that a service center can do the job? I'm aware that a good tech can probably do this, but everyone benefits if Subaru gets involved with the process. I'd like to add that MANY people use Ipods, Sat. radio and other devices in their cars and this is a very fundamental requirement these days. We spent more than 36 thousand dollars on our Tribeca and we'd really like some technical help. I understand that there's no obvious method, but the stereo is capable 100% of handling an AUX device by design. Can you forward this e-mail to a person who can offer the support we need?

    We'll see how they respond. Meanwhile, I'm calling my local SOA Service center tomorrow to talk over the problem with them. I'm determined to find a fix. I really don't want to use FM modulators on a DVD system or Sat. Radio. The button is there. We should be able to use it!

    Robert B, NY
    2006 Tribeca, 5 Pass Limited
    Atlantic Blue
  • kmartinkmartin Member Posts: 427
    Robert, chances are you got the same response from the same lady at Subaru as I did. Hopefully, they will take notice and start working on this asap. Maybe we can ALL flood Subaru with similar emails?

    At any rate, you are my hero for your efforts! Thx on behalf of all iPod/Mp3-ers everywhere.

    -Karen in AZ-
  • kmartinkmartin Member Posts: 427
    Hi, Ken! Long time, no see :-)

    I (reluctantly) traded my 99 Forester for an 05 OB 2.5i a year ago. When the B9 came along, I knew I needed something bigger than the OB, and I gave it up for more leg room and more oomph. Loving every minute in the Tribeca and looking forward to heading up to Montana in it tomorrow.

    Hope it's OK with host Steve that I post my reviews page for the last time for a couple of weeks or so. I don't want to clutter up the site with links, but the reviews are there for you all to read and enjoy. Let me know if I miss any while I'm gone. (What? No forums for two weeks? Argh! How will I cope?)

    -Karen in AZ-
    Reviews Links: http://members.cox.net/kamartin/2006b9tribeca.html
  • phan7phan7 Member Posts: 7
    I've been reading this message board for a couple of weeks now. I'm planning on buying a B9 Ltd 7 Seater w/ Nav and Atlantic Blue Pearl ext / Gray int this weekend. I had a couple of questions, however, and this board seems to be the best place to ask these.

    Is Subaru selling the same emissions-rated model in all 50 states or is it different in states like CA vs PA (where I currently reside)? I'm kind of environmentally consicous (yeah, yeah, I know I'm buying an SUV!) and would prefer to get the same one which is sold in CA (where I might go back sometime in the near future) where the emissions rules are stricter. I did notice the Tier 2 Bin 5 / LEV2 rating under the hood of the Tribeca I saw at my local dealer in PA. I wonder if the ones sold in CA have the same ratings.

    Another question I had was whether the Tribeca had a height-adjustable driver seat atleast since I'm on the shorter side. My Honda Accord EX has one and I'm very used to this feature.

    Would appreciate any help on the the above questions.

    I would also like to congratulate all the current Tribeca owners for their new cars and also would like to thank everybody in this forum for the informative posts.

    Kim in PA.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Well, I saw the review, and sure enough - yet another group that could not figure out the back seat.

    They complain about rear seat leg space, and then fold the seat, and there is clearly the extra 4" to the 3rd row. So they didn't hit that release lever that gives you the extra 2nd row leg room.

    How many is that? You'd think these reviewers would be smarter than that.

    -juice
  • efinchefinch Member Posts: 13
    I have been waiting since May 20. Still have not recd it. I did get an application for
    an LL Bean credit card but I tossed it in the trash.
  • photoguy2photoguy2 Member Posts: 164
    You are da Man! Good work Robert and keep us posted... especially Karen... I'm thinkin' if you solve this she just might send you a thank you letter! :)
  • photoguy2photoguy2 Member Posts: 164
    Yes the Driver seat is height adjustable. Don't know about Emission....
  • kmartinkmartin Member Posts: 427
    This was just hysterical. The extra back seat leg room was one of the biggest reasons I traded my 05 Outback for the Tribeca. I watched this show, too. It was so obvious that the demonstrator was only moving the reat seat the first 4", and not grabbing the secondary release and moving it another 4" (this takes two hands, by the way).

    For the record, I am not currently using the third row seat, so I leave the 2nd row seat in the farthest-back position. Plenty of leg and hip room for three adults (as we tried recently).

    Well, Motor Week could always read the manual, but then I rarely do, either :-)

    -Karenin AZ-
  • kmartinkmartin Member Posts: 427
    Kim, there's a separate section in the warranty manual explaining the California warranty. It's pretty much the same, and spells out all the details. Your local dealer should be able to grab a manual out of one of their stock and go over it with you.

    Good luck!

    -Karen in AZ-
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    Sounds like the standard PR response.

    I assume nothing happens when you hit that RSE/aux button on the radio?? Does it even switch to a silent input??

    Would be interesting to look at the service manual and see if there are any wiring diagrams for the vehicle harness which show the in-car wiring for the rear aux-in.

    I agree Subaru is behind the ball here!

    CRaig
  • gwilsongwilson Member Posts: 46
    Actually I have family in Florence and down there quite often - nice place.

    Yes, I have had my B9 for a week now - absolutely love it! Hate the cargo cover (read my previous post from about a week ago) but with minor therapy I am getting over that... :-)

    I checked the dealers in Dayton, Columbus and Cincinnati and got the best deal at Beechmont Subaru in Cincinnati way over on the east side. A bit of a drive for me but was worth it. No problems with the dealership, got a good deal and lifetime oil changes. I preordered May 20 and it came in June 30. One of the easiest car deals I have had.
  • tytnsfan1tytnsfan1 Member Posts: 44
    That's cool. Of course, Beechmont is one of the closest ones to me and I've noticed on their website that they have one of the largest selections of Tribecas too I think.

    The cargo cover does sound a little rinky dink. I guess they couldn't do the "roller shade" type because of the seat movement. Thanks for replying and it's nice to know that I'm not the only person on the forum from this area! :D I was beginning to think I was! ;)

    I'll be up your way next weekend for the airshow. I just love the Thunderbirds!!!

    Maggie in No. Ky
  • bat1161bat1161 Member Posts: 1,784
    Maggie-

    Even though I'm from NYC, I happen to know where Florence is. I have some good friends who live right near there in Hebron. We're trying to figure out when I can do a road trip out there to visit. It's only about 10-11 hours :) .

    And keeping it on topic, the friends mentioned above were in for a funeral and we had to cram 6 into my OB. I told my wife we need a Tribeca for the comfort - and for driving to KY :D

    Enjoy,

    Mark
  • bat1161bat1161 Member Posts: 1,784
    I'm curious how much pressure there would be afterwards to buy the test vehicle. It reminds me of GM's 24hr test drive they were doing last year.

    It's definitely a good way to try. One negative side though, the dealer I would want to give first crack at a sale is not included in their list. Matter of fact - there is no NYC dealer listed! I guess we're not trustworthy :)

    Mark
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Karen: we should tell them to RTFM! LOL

    Sounds like the standard PR response

    Allow me to play Devil's Advocate here...if you were in their shoes, would you really encourage people to tear open their own dash and wire their own stereo solutions? I mean, I can understand if a shop calls to order a shop manual including stereo diagrams/wiring, but the Average Joe Owner?

    If someone takes the initiative, gets a shop manual, or finds out who makes the stereo and obtains one from the manufacturer, that's different. If anyone gest that far let's document it, I can host pictures, etc. That's the purpose of a forum like this one.

    But do you really expect Subaru's PR folks to say, "Sure, tear open that dash, I'm sure no squeeks or rattles will appear and nothing will ever go wrong with a novice wiring up their own electrical equipment."

    Sounds crazy to me. And I've installed several stereos. I just wouldn't expect a manufacturer to help me do it.

    I just think this is a solution we're going to have to come up with on our own, not with help from SoA.

    -juice
  • x5killerx5killer Member Posts: 368
    "I am sorry you feel that way about the price on the Tribeca. I think I
    went out of my way to accommodate you on the color and option."
    <----- (Actually I was the one who ultimately found the vehicle closest to the colors and options i was looking for and then had to firmly coerce the dealership that had it into cooperating on a dealer trade with this guy at his more local dealership that I had been working with after they had originally told him they wouldn't trade and then tried to get me to drive the hour and a half so that they would get the sale. I told him I did appreciate all his previous efforts in locating what i was looking for and always getting back to me etc. but the bottom line is I found the vehicle, and I talked the other dealer into cooperating on a trade who originally told him no. Otherwise he wouldn't have gotten the sale as I maybe would have driven up to that other dealer.)</b>

    "I do not know what other dealers are offering as far as price is concerned. You
    are showing me possible price quotes from a dealer in a different region (MD)"
    . <----(You should know what your competition is offering and you contradict yourself later in the email anyway. So what if it is from a different region? How do you know the one example was from MD? NJ where my car came from, Delaware and MD not to mention NY are not far from Phila area PA and worth the drive if you are going to pay invoice or closer to it which amounted to over $3,000 less then MSRP on my particular Tribeca.)</b>

    "I offered you my best price that I could offer on that car." <---- ( really? over $2,000 over invoice is your back breaking best price? I highly doubt that.)</b>

    "I gave you the price including tax, tags and all fees before I went out to
    get the Tribeca in case you had any questions with it before the car
    arrived. How would you have felt if you arrived at my dealership on the
    day of delivery and I said the price of the car is now $1000 higher. I
    would never do this to a customer"
    ----(You told me the price big deal, I didn't agree to anything and wasn't going to over the phone nor was I going to negotiate the pirce or do anything that might have given you/the dealership a reason for more excuses on how you couldn't get the vehicle or that the other dealership said it was sold etc. In other words I found the vehicle and set everything up for them with the other dealer and didn't want them any less motivated to get it or have anything go wrong as it had so for starting from my original preorder)
    The problem is, I was very determined to get the colors/options i wanted and enthusiastic about the car and I felt like that was used against me that it meant I would pay any price. In fact I felt like my bluff was called that I wouldn't walk out on the deal once there when they didn't budge on price, for several reasons including again my obvious excitement for the car. Well that wasn't true, I would have walked out, but I didn't more for the dealers sake being a business neighbor and as the guy I was working with had been helpful and pleasant enough and I didn't want to screw him and leave him with the vehicle they had to transport from another dealer etc. plus figured that it could be made up to me with some options and consideration on future service. But no, he threw in 2 super cheap options and that was it and they almost tried to sell me the 100k extended warranty after I had told them I knew of ppl getting that for free included in their deal which was already better then mine without that. I've given him lots of ideas as listed above and more like the free tires for life etc. etc. Instead he doesn't agree to any of it or come up with anything else to offer so why should I even buy any more options from them or take my car there for service?

    "I want you to leave feeling like you received a fair price on the Tribeca".<----(If you really want that then do something about it because not only don't I feel, but I know that I didn't receive a good price</b>)

    "I have been talking with the dealers in the area and the dealers that I spoke with have not been discounting this car more than $500." <----(I thought you just said you don't know what other dealers are offering? and whether thats what they told you or not or whether its also then actually true or not is irrelevant, thats why there is invoice price which speaks for itself and the examples of deals that are at other dealerships that are not so far that your customers cannot go there instead of to you)</b>

    "Sometimes people say that were offered a better deal than they actually were." <----(Possible but then thats why we have invoice price again to make best offer from that and not based on any other deals)</b>

    At this point its water under the bridge in a way because I already agreed, signed and paid so don't make excuses now just do the best you can from here to make the deal seem better and keep me as a customer into the future.
  • phan7phan7 Member Posts: 7
    Thanks Karen for the quick reply.

    Did you mean that the CA emissions is the same as PA emissions or did you mean the warranty?

    I meant the emissions.

    There are 2 reasons I 'm concerned about the emissions:

    1) I may relocate to CA in the future while I keep the vehicle.
    2) I would prefer that my car pollutes our environment a little less (you may call me a geo-green - I care about spending as less oil also if I can so that we don't have to depend on outsiders for that).

    Kim.
  • phan7phan7 Member Posts: 7
    Well, I did call SOA and gave them one VIN of the car I was looking at and they said that it is Cal-spec and separately indicated that it is LEV2 certified. I guess then LEV2 is the one I have to look for.

    I did look under the hood of another Tribeca a few days ago and found it LEV2 / Tier 2 Bin 5 rated. The Tier 2 Bin 5 is the Federal emission standard.

    Not as good emissions rating as I would have wanted but still the good thing is that they seem to be selling the same ones in PA as in CA.

    The customer service representative also indicated that all Tribecas should have the same emissions rating all over the country. However, when I asked him whether he could confirm that, he seemed to be little taken aback and asked for the VIN of the car since he couldn't confirm without knowing the VIN!

    Kim.
  • tytnsfan1tytnsfan1 Member Posts: 44
    Mark,

    How funny! I used to live in Hebron, but only for 2 years from May 2000 to April 2002. It's in the same county as Florence. It is a very small world afterall!

    I can hardly wait to purchase a Tribeca. I'm just chomping at the bit as they say.

    Maggie - No. Ky.
  • andreakatandreakat Member Posts: 2
    Hi Craig-There's something in me that has rebelled fromthe minivan/SUV syndrome. I'm a sports car girl at heart. BUT-I have an active life and family and appreciate the capacity of the Forester XT and previously the CR-V. The Forester was a decent compromise but still doesn't have the mtn handling I'd really like but know is not reasonable to expect in this type of vehicle. (oh well). I have yet to drive the B9 and will curb my exspectation for acceleration.

    As for ipod use in the Forester-I haven't extensively dealt with it. I tried the FM tuner method with Griffins I-trip but hat doesn't work well. It's hard to find a good station and it needs to be retuned if you change areas. I'm still an ipod novice too, and am looking for the best solution without spending a ton of money. The darn this is expensive enough!
    I just went on a long trip through Oregon and just listened to the ipod on the headphones (I wasn't doing the driving) and have a splitter which I shared another set of headphones with someone else in the car. Not the best solution. If you know the hack method to play through the stereo I'd love to know it!
    Thanks for the feedback.

    Andrea :)
  • jeffmcjeffmc Member Posts: 1,742
    Andrea,

    You mentioned a trip through OR... are you in the PacNW? If so, check out www.cars101.com. The guy who runs that site is a fantastic resource for Subaru info and is also terrific to deal with. (The dealership he works at is also outstanding.) His pricing is no-nonsense, and at the very least is useful as a bargaining chip when negotiating a price for any new Subaru you'd purchase. If you're interested in hearing about my purchasing experience, feel free to e-mail me and I'd be glad to tell all. Just click on my name in the title of this post and you'll go to my forums profile, where you'll find my e-mail address.

    -Jeff
  • krusty_krusty_ Member Posts: 11
    x5.
    You need to understand that dealers are not going to go back and refund money to you after the deal, When you buy a car you have to make sure you drive off happy with the car and you feel its worth the price. You wanted the car, you agreed to price, you paid the price and drove off. I will call everydealer even though i get VIP ( invoice) price through work and see what can be added to the deal to make it that much better.

    You have to shop around. And prices will vary widly esp when the car is a month from release.

    CR

    Sorry you are unhappy with your price, it kills me too to find out i over paid for anything i buy.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    Sounds like the standard PR response
     
    Allow me to play Devil's Advocate here...if you were in their shoes, would you really encourage people to tear open their own dash and wire their own stereo solutions? I mean, I can understand if a shop calls to order a shop manual including stereo diagrams/wiring, but the Average Joe Owner?


    By standard PR response, I meant "useless". This is not the first time someone wrote to Subaru and got back standard boilerplate (and you correctly point out the reasons). I wouldn't have expected anything different, to be honest. Real solutions are found deep in the forums of enthusiast sites, where people really know their stuff. Even if the frontline SOA reps could say whatever they wanted, I doubt we'd find any level of expertise there.

    Craig
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    Yeah, forget about it and move on. Honestly, I can't blame the dealer for trying to make as much money as they can -- that's the way the business works.

    When I was buying my wife's Forester a few years ago, I worked a sweet deal and passed on all the ripoff extras like paint sealant, prepaid maintenance, etc.... While we were doing the paperwork, I could hear another couple in the office next door buying a Forester too. They paid full MSRP and got suckered into all the extras, and I felt bad for them. There's a whole spectrum to car buying, from one extreme to the other. Consider yourself lucky to have fallen somewhere in the middle!!

    Some of my rules for getting the best deal: 1) be prepared with all the facts -- detailed specs, invoice pricing, market price, and prices from the online dealers. 2) be calm and contain your excitement; be prepared to walk if they can't meet your price. 3) be patient if needed (I haggled for two weeks when I bought a Honda years ago). 4) don't be desperate for the car, that's a bad position to be in. 5) when making a deal, the only thing that counts is price; forget extras, freebies, programs, etc. 6) don't feel like you have to buy the car at the same place you get service; any service department will be glad for your business no matter where you bought. 7) VIP programs can eliminate a lot of hassle, but you can usually get as good or better a price on your own. 8) skip all the extras, they overwhelmingly favor the dealer rather than the consumer 9) inspect the car and test drive it thoroughly before begining negotiations -- if there are any problems or defects, make them the dealer's responsibility, not yours.

    I think the biggest rule is to have a firm plan, with a contigency, and don't waste your time pursuing a dead end. When shopping for my WRX, the local Subaru dealer was asking about $2000 more than a dealer 50 miles away. They said, "is it really worth it to drive 50 miles to buy the other car?". That's when I split!! It was real clear that a 40 minute drive was a better option than haggling with these local guys for hours. Same thing when I bought my Outback last year -- a 160 mile drive to Fitzmall was the easiest way to go. They had a huge inventory, no haggle pricing at invoice, and the experience was great.

    Craig
  • kmartinkmartin Member Posts: 427
    Sorry for the confusion...my brain was on the wrong channel...

    There is a section in one of the booklets (I think it;s in the warranty book) explaining the CA emissions and how they differ (slightly) from the other US states. All Subarus DO cover all 50 states.. All other contiguous states are the same, I believe. Again, grab a manual from your local dealer and have a look-see.

    -Karen in AZ-
  • kmartinkmartin Member Posts: 427
    Karen: we should tell them to RTFM! LOL

    Ooooo, I SO wanted to type that, but changed my mind at the last minute :wink:

    -Karen-
  • kmartinkmartin Member Posts: 427
    I made it to Provo tonight (640+ miles!). The car rode and handled absolutely beautifully. Still getting lots of stares (PLEASE watch the rode and not my gorgeous new vehicle!).

    Gas mileage isn't that great (20.7 overall so far), but there was a LOT of stop and go on AZ 93 (construction, flag-persons, etc.) and then there was the slowdown at the checkpoint just south of Hoover Dam, plus the pedestrian traffic during this, the peak of tourist season at the dam itself. I still expect it to improve tomorrow (hmmm....maybe it's al the crap I packed for the trip...ya think?). The car occasionally does some interesting downshifting that seems unnecessary, but still it was smooth for the most part. The Nav has been a blast, but I am still getting the hang of it.

    Looking forward to the next leg of the trip, and all the side trips after that.

    My friends that I am visiting in Montana have no clue I have a new Subie, and I can't wait to see the look on their face when I drive up the lane to the cabin :-)

    -Karen in UT- (at least for tonight)

    PS: forgot to mention the hotel I'm at has internet service...you just THOUGHT you had gotten rid of me for a few days!
  • cluelesspacluelesspa Member Posts: 648
    I assume that you have to have the NAV option to get a screen in the front. and is this the ONLY vehicle that will play a movie when parked on the front NAV screen? :confuse: I have yet to see anyone else offer this in a OEM system. I know that aftermarket has offered it for sometime.

    thanks in advance for any responses...
  • ladywclassladywclass Member Posts: 1,713
    PS: forgot to mention the hotel I'm at has internet service...you just THOUGHT you had gotten rid of me for a few days!

    last trip we took the laptop and had internet every night from the hotels ... it was pretty nice we thought!
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    One of my relatives has a Toyota Sienna, and it will play movies on the front screen. Has surround sound too. Pretty sweet setup.

    Yes, you need NAV to get the front screen.

    Craig
  • b9driverb9driver Member Posts: 118
    My new tribeca engine light came on. Drove to the dealer and after 5 hours, they found it was a lose ground wire. No big deal, but the 5 hours are lost. While I was there I spoke to the service dept. about adding Ipods and Sat. Radio. They all agreed it SHOULD BE POSSIBLE, but not to expect help from Subaru. As someone else posted, it's a non-factory authorized modification. They also felt that I should be patient. Few people, if any, have cracked open the radio system and they hadn't even seen the setup yet. My Tribeca was the 1st they'd worked on. So the good news: We should be able to use the AUX button to use an Ipod in NON Dvd cars. The bad news: We'll have to wait a bit for the correct info to trickle down.
    On the way home from the service center I accidently hit a lake of a puddle getting off an exit. It was dramatic, but my old 99 outback would never have managed it's way through with so little fuss. There was just a nudge of the wheel and the car didn't pull at all. Excellent. Brakes are also great, even in the rain.

    Robert B
    NY
    2006 Tribeca
  • b9driverb9driver Member Posts: 118
    We decided not to add the DVD system. Reasons? We're adding an even better system with 3 screens and two players for less than the factory version. Rear screens will be for the kids. Front 7 inch visor screen will play Blade Runner or whatever else we want. You can always get better after market audio and video for less. Sadly, we're a bit limited on audio head units due to the layout of the dash, but we can go crazy with upscale video. I even looked at an overhead system that was better than stock for 1100.00 installed. Again, waiting for the radio mod for it all. Patience will pay.

    Robert B
    2006 Tribeca
  • njswamplandsnjswamplands Member Posts: 1,760
    i like my fxt/odyssey, i fly below the radar
  • photoguy2photoguy2 Member Posts: 164
    Say Hi to all my friends in Provo!! Glad you found a computer at the hotel and thanks for the update... I go in for my first oil change on Monday... just turned 3,000 today and got 22.8 MPG on a 600 mile trip myself. AVG speed was about 70+ on the highway.

    I agree with the stares... I got a ton of em' today and just waved! :)
  • coastercoaster Member Posts: 46
    I am trying to find a photo (true color representation) of a Champagne Gold Opal Tribeca on the internet. Everyone seems to use the stock Subaru photos which are mainly of the silver and ?. I saw an Outback in Champagne Gold Opal on the lot and it looked great but none of the photos of the Tribeca seem to be near that color, not even the one in the brochure. The color chip in the brochure is much closer than the photo of the car in CGO but it still looks darker, as do most of the chips.
    If I decide to order the Tribeca soon I want to see that color on the Tribeca, not on another model.
    So any leads would be welcome.
  • x5killerx5killer Member Posts: 368
    krusty,
    Yeah, I didn't expect the dealer to refund money after the deal. I expected him to lower the price when I was sitting there with him negotiating the deal. Problem was he [non-permissible content removed]umed that it was set in stone just because he informed me of the numbers over the phone which I never agreed to. I guess he wanted me to negotiate the deal before he went out to get the car not on the day i came to pick it up but still that should be my choice and I just wanted them to get it there so then I had the ball in my court that they would be stuck with it and there I was prepared to pay in full that day if they would just lower the price a little considering I was armed with many facts, examples and invoice price.

    Again, I think they/he called my bluff a little that I would walk out on the deal for several reasons but I let him know I was disappointed, but then just didn't want to make a problem. I kept asking for options and he threw in 2 for free but we'll see about the rest. So I am not asking for a refund at this point, just some options for free to amount to what turns out to be the 1500-2000 I overpaid. I have a feeling he/they will continue to be stubborn about it at which point I will be shopping around for the options and then letting them know that its pretty sad that dealerships that I didn't even buy the car from are offering me better price on some of the options.

    I also may consider not giving them the business of taking it there for service especailly since its not neccesarily my only or closest Subaru dealership so I still have power in that respect even after the sale and we'll see how they handle it. Also, I don't want to prove myself as being overly picky or cheap but just so you don't neccesarily think I "overpaid" either, I did get the best deal on a Tribeca that any dealer in the area has given and according to another B9 forums poll 66% of ppl paid MSRP and only 33% below MSRP which some of those could be only 500 below msrp while I got 1000 so I'm still in the 33% Nationwide i guess, as I'm assuming the poll is of ppl from all over on that site.

    But still at the same time I do see others at Fitzmall comparibly equipped to mine including one almost exact at only $4 more msrp then mine and Fitz's final price is about 1500 less then I paid, so I'm also not crazy to think I overpaid a little. We'll see how they handle it from here but generally a smart customer who knows his facts and tries to haggle is despised and they act pretty shady about it. They like dumb ppl who pay whatever they say.

    Anyway moving on to other and more positive things that maybe I should make separate post about.... THE SEATBELT CHIME. How do you get rid of it. Poster here Karen has directions on her site that worked on the Outback and supposedly for the Tribeca as well but they do not. I even called service dept. para my dealers advice that they would tell me how and they said that the click seat belt in and out 3 time for one time defeat or 20 in 30 sec. or whatever for permanent does not work on the new Outbacks even and not on the Tribeca at all and they didn't know of another way, they also agreed it was annoying and they should have kept how it used to be on older modles when it chimes in the beginning and then thats it instead of the chiming that keeps coming back. SO PLEASE HOW DO WE GET THE SEATBELT CHIME OFF? I have no problem wearing it and know the importance etc. but its really annoying when it chimes when you first turn on your car and are in your garage or whatever or even when parked! It doesnt' even wait till your moving, its really over doing it with the chime and way more of a nuisance then it is any help.

    On a more positve note I want to say that the B9 handles amazingly even in the rain. Especailly compared to the Pathfinder i came out of which i whipped like a sports car anyway but i can take corners much faster with the Tribeca and I believe that it beat out the Murano in handling. It might even be close or equal to the Infiniti FX in handling but looks much more SUV like then that and better rear visibility so its the best of all worlds. I would like the 3.5L V6 with 280 hp that the FX35 has as I think that was the most hp out of a v6 in an suv i knew of but now Toyota is getting way more power and HP etc. out of their hybrid SUV (Lexus RX 400H & Toyota HIghlander Hybrid) that use a v6 in conjunction with the electric which to me is the way to go for the future and not a gas guzzling v8. In fact on a negative note, my info shows i'm only getting like 15. something avg. mpg which is pretty bad though it most be all the stop and go driving around the neighborhoods etc and combination of how I drive (often above 3 rpms etc.) and on top of that I've noticed what I heard that it has an on the smaller side gas tank and sure enough it seems I have to fill it up more often then I did even the Pathfinder. Full tank doesn't even last me a week, not good, and at $2.53/gallon for 93 octane even worse as they recommend 91 but there is only 87, 89, and 93 octane. I think eventually I will switch down to 89 after it isn't so new. I used to put in 93 my whole life mostly believing it was better gas mileage and performacne etc. as it seems some ppl even here still say when it came up but I have a friend who works with cars and knows a lot about them and drives a mercedes and only puts in the lowest 87 octane gas and says they are all the same and that its all BS and waste of money to put in the more expensive supposedly higher octane gas so go figure. Luckily my parents have a RX 400 H and getting a Highlander Hybrid so if this 15mpg avg. and high gas prices keep up I may have to trade with them as I have a longer commute/more travel etc.

    last note, Anyone get the splash guards yet? how do they look? Moonroof wind deflector anyone? What about the hood protector? I thought that actually took away from the looks and would be ugly but now i'm thinking it may add some interest to the plain looking area between hood and grill and lift it up a little or give it a more substantail front nose look as it slopes down pretty dramatically for an SUV. I'm thinking about almost all of the options now as even the expensive and what i thought useless front bumper underguard might look cool and i guess prevent scraping there as again, its a little low. Btw speaking of the car like looks of the FX, its interesting the B9 with its swooping down look even fromt the front of the moonroof and then especailly the hood and nose gives it a more car like front lowered look which concerned me at first but then I realize it really is almost the best of the FX sporty car like look with the side and back looking more substantial and SUV like.
  • x5killerx5killer Member Posts: 368
    Washed Beca for the first time today as it was her 1 week anniversary with me, heh. Her curves are so nice to wash with a wash mit, hah. Coming out in a parking lot and seeing her parked in a far away spot away from everyone else all clean tires shined, and hitting unlock and seeing her wink her side mirrors at me and beckon me with soft blue puddle lights never gets old and its amazing how big Beca looks from the side compared to say an FX or Murano. Its weird like I said the B9 really looks diff size and shape from different angles and in diff situations. Overall I love and stare at her a lot and find myself checking on her in the garage.

    Also as if this post can't get any longer. I did know also of an online company that did sell basically the factory rims except all chrome, I imagine dipped or whatever? I dont know if this would be good for winters on the North Atlantic Coast and especially if they make you send them your factory rims then you wouldn't be able to switch back which would be a pain anyway to have rims switched even once every season but I remember for the path they offered even just the center cap alone so I am thinking of doing that especially if it would white out or eliminate the Subaru symbol on the wheel cap as its enough with the symbol on the front and back (phew what a run on sentance). At least all chrome subie symbol on center cap instead of blue wouldn't be as noticeable.

    I will look up that particular company and repost it since i saw ppl asking about the chrome rims.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    A number of items not yet mentioned are brought up here. Part 2 to be published tomorrow.

    http://car-reviews.automobile.com/Subaru/review/2006-subaru-b9-tribeca-limited-road-test-p- art-1/1318/0

    Bob
  • newsubunewsubu Member Posts: 39
    "...according to another B9 forums poll 66% of ppl paid MSRP and only 33% below MSRP..." I'd love to know where this poll is from and the sample size.

    I've suspected MSRP prices are holding up, based on the research I did in May, finding about 12 of 16 dealers queried thru Edmunds holding at MSRP price for pre-orders. Found a couple discounting $1000 or so off MSRP, and only a 2 of 16 discussing "over invoice" pricing. That was when they were throwing in the tow packages, etc. from SOA, but also before many good reviews. Feel I got a pretty good deal on the best vehicle I've ever purchased at $800 over, Limited w/ NAV, tow & crossbars. The comments / mood at my dealer makes me think they are very pleased with sales and their average price. I've asked alot of questions, and so have they, about impressions, NAV, break-in issues. Being one of their first Tribeca purchasers, I'm kinda their "Beta-guy."

    The "$500 over" deals posted are probably about the best ones out there, IMO, & the happy recipients of such deals are the most anxious to share. Free oil changes for life?...Free tires? I think this is rare. You've found great dealers, stick with 'em. I did get a really cool FREE Subaru Electronic Tire Guage! Yeah!

    Leaving on a two week tour of the Northwoods soon, giving the new Tribeca a real workout for the first time. Will be loaded down with carrier and heavy bike rack, and am anxious to see MPG. Will report. The NAV, while already in need of an update for some recently improved roads, restaurant changes, etc. amazingly had our very remote MN cabin, far from anywhere, plotted and dailed in, complete with our cove on the lake.

    If ANYONE knows how to defeat the Major Pain In The A** seat belt chimes, PLEASE let us know soon. Just sitting in my driveway programming a few destinations requires a seat belt. Very annoying, and hard to just ignore. The rapid plug-unplug doesn't work. Where's the wire...I'll snip it myself!

    "Dust In The Wind"...????....Great Song, but WAY too 1970's for this progressive SUV of the future. The conotations look back, not forward. I was thinking "VROOOM" by King Crimson!
  • ladywclassladywclass Member Posts: 1,713
    "Dust In The Wind"...????....

    however ... it's just about the 'right' era of music for people with the $$ to be buying these vehicles! It's not going to be the 20 somethings .... besides ... you know Bill and Ted gave "dust in the wind" all new meaning for another generation!
  • kmartinkmartin Member Posts: 427
    Krusty, the directions do work...I've already done it twice on the B9, and I used it a few times on the OB. My dealer said that it was a liability and that they could not legally tell me how it was done, although they admitted it was in one of their service manuals. Someone on the '05 OB forums somewhere posted it a year ago, and it does work on both models.

    I think I posted them as specifically as possible, but make sure you don't skip any steps. Anyone else have trouble with these directions? Let me know...I'm a teacher, and I aim to be clear and concise.

    members.cox.net/kamartin/seatbelt.html

    -Karen in AZ--currently in MT :-)
  • x5killerx5killer Member Posts: 368
    "My dealer said that it was a liability and that they could not legally tell me how it was done, although they admitted it was in one of their service manuals."

    thats funny, when I called my dealer they said that the trick doesn't work on new outbacks nor on the Tribeca and that they agree it is annoying but don't know how to disable it yet.

    I'm not denying you got it to work but you are one of the rare lucky ones as noone else seems to have gotten it to work including again the dealership service dept. i spoke too. I guess its possible it works on some Tribecas but not others?

    1. Turn the key to &#147;ON&#148; (not running, necessarily).

    2. Fasten and unfasten the driver&#146;s seat belt 20 times within 30 seconds. (This will set the passenger seat as well).

    3. Setting lasts until the battery is disconnected or the system is otherwise reset.

    4. If you want to do this as a temporary thing (just for one driving period), fasten/unfasten the belt 3 times in 6 seconds. The chime will reset the next time the car is started.


    what step could we be skipping? I think the only thing that could be unclear is whether to turn the engine on or just turn the key to on without turning on engine as you say "(not running neccesarily)" which would lead one to believe that it works both ways. Either way I've tried both and other possibilities and none work

    You are the only one I have seen claim to have gotten it to work. Maybe you are leaving something out. What model options do you have? do you do it before or after you hit agree on the NAV? etc.
  • new2subnew2sub Member Posts: 6
    That stat is based on 3 responses. Not what I'd call a valid sample size.
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