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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    Those Mazda B2200 carburetors are *mighty* tricky...do not go in there if you can avoid it.

    speaking of this, I took the air cleaner cover off last night and now I'm even more confused. It LOOKS like a regular carburetor ... but not quite. I dunno. Until I have some real time to take the whole aircleaner off and take a good look, I might not know the answer here.

    SYMPTOMS: are you also stepping on the brake when you step on the clutch? I was thinking power brake booster leak.

    hmmmm.... I'm not sure it HAS power brakes. ;)

    But, to answer your question, no, it happens when I just step on the clutch (parking brake engaged, of course).

    I'll keep the grounding strap theory in mind. You never know.

    so I took a good look at the exhaust last night. Seems like I need EVERYTHING behind the y-pipe, including the cat. damn!

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  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    Those Mazda B2200 carburetors are *mighty* tricky...do not go in there if you can avoid it.

    I had a college buddy buy a new B2000 just before we graduated back in '85. He bought it in AZ but then moved to CO to take a job.

    I caught up with him a couple of years later and he told me that he had to sell the truck since he could never get it to run right at altitude.

    Q - I'm hoping my FIL's Legacy doesn't need that much work with the exhaust ... from what I can see, it's only one of the tailpipes that exits the muffler that is missing.

    Still need to get the title transferred on it ...
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,557
    I'm almost certain all B-series trucks have power brakes. I'm not sure there was a car or truck made for sale in the US after the mid-1980s that didn't have power brakes.

    In the 70s VW still sold quite a few cars without power brakes, but they were some of the last, I think.
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Well there was a time when old British sportscars were a dime a dozen, so I could see someone just throwing one into a hayloft somewhere.

    This car looks mighty rough---and a 100-6 does not have the value of an AH 3000 and cannot be valued the same. Given what it needs, it is not worth restoring, not even close. Perhaps there are precious little bits and pieces one could salvage off of it (like speedometer gears or impossible to find little brackets or clamps--maybe even the brake drums are salvagable.

    Even if it were a late version of the BJ8 (the best of the best Healeys) I'd have to wonder if it would be worth it.

    Problem is, Healeys are not scarce. If it were say an Alfa Romeo Giullieta Sprint Veloce Coupe--they are so hard to find you sometimes have to work with what you get.

    Another factor is that certain cars of a certain year are eligible for prestigious European re-creation events and for special vintage racing....so a 1957 model of a certain car might be worth way more than a 1958 model, for this very reason.

    In the collector car world, you gotta know what you are doing, or you'll end up very short.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,387
    as much as I love the style of these cars, that one is crusher material, and probably already overbid (IMHO of course). What is there to work with? You have to replace most of the body, and the frame, the engine is probably rusted together, so what exactly do you have to work with?

    I don't think there has been anything posted in this thread with that much rust!

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    No, the car is garbage, but there are a few bits and pieces of value that I can see. Might be worth $350 or so.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    Andre: You've probably told it before, but if you don't mind saying, how much did you pay for the Intrepid? What engine does it have?

    I forget now what the car itself was, but I do remember it being $22,389 out the door, with tax, tags, a $1200 extended warranty that I never had to use once, and all the other assorted bs they throw in. I do remember the window sticker being $20,950, including the $560 freight charge. I also got them to throw in a 12-disc CD changer, mounted in the trunk.

    I just have the 2.7 V-6. Sometimes I wish I had splurged on the 3.2, because it's a lot more powerful, and torquier across the board. The 2.7 also has a reputation for sludging, although mine has about 122,000 miles on it, and I haven't been that religious about changing the oil or keeping it topped off, and it's never given me any problems.

    And yeah, mine is like that one on eBay, minus the blingy wheels and the woodgrain interior. Wood/plood might dress up some cars, but IMO the Intrepid ain't one of them! :surprise:

    I kinda like that Diamond-T truck. There used to be one abandoned in the woods not too far from my house. It was parked next to an old early 60's medium-duty Dodge truck. There was also a 1957 Ford back there, thrown upside down in a dumptruck bed. I remember a couple other fairly big trucks. One was an old 1947 or so International that said "Giant Foods" on the side, and another that was so stripped down I couldn't tell what it was. They used to be at the edge of a cornfield owned by a guy who also had a contracting company, but now there's a school on that piece of land, and that old junk is long gone.

    I liked the Diamond-T though. It was a single-axle tractor rig. I thought it would've been cool to put a pickup truck bed on it and fix it up.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    Glad to hear that about the AH ... kind of.

    I went to a friend of a friend's old farmhouse a few weeks back that I had never been to before. Its a young fella who's uncle used to own the farm. Anyway, there are several barns around the property. The one that was in view held an AH. It was partially covered and obscured by old tractors, etc, and I didn't want to waltz over there and check it out, so I'm not sure of the year. I could see it was definitely rough, though.

    Anyway, get to talking with the guy and he says there are cars all over the property. One barn holds a rotted out Woodie. There's also a 280z, but he says the engine is gone (the best part!).

    I've been thinking about giving him a buzz to talk more about the AH and maybe get a look at the Woodie. I think you guys have talked me down from the AH. I wasn't sure of its real value, but if this one is worth so little, I'm sure that one is worth even less (since I'm pretty sure its not as old).

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    The only Healeys worth anything are the "Big Healeys" and the Bug Eye. The Mark II Sprites, the Jensen-Healeys, not worth restoring. But a rough BJ7 or BJ8 is worth a look--these are the last of the Big Healeys.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    man, this is a pain.

    Ok, according to Mazdatruckin.com, I either have a 2-bbl Makuni carb or PFI (port fuel injection).

    Now... would PFI include a component that LOOKS like a carburetor? I'm thinking no, right? I mean, if its REALLY port injection, that's happening right at the head, correct?

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  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Now... would PFI include a component that LOOKS like a carburetor? I'm thinking no, right? I mean, if its REALLY port injection, that's happening right at the head, correct?

    That is what I would think but ehh who knows with old import trucks.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    definitely not a bug eye.

    What exactly is a "big healey"?

    This thing was about the size of an MGB. maybe a bit smaller.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    WEll look for injectors in the head, yes.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    shouldn't have anything that looks even remotely like a carburetor on it IIRC. Now ther is something called MPFI, for multi-port fuel injection, instead of just port fuel injection, but both of them should still have a separate nozzle for each combustion chamber.

    Throttle Body Injection, or TBI, is the one that's essentially a carburetor body with a fuel injector nozzle in it. Or, two fo them I guess. I guess jokingly you could call it Two Barrel Injection? :P
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    or you could call it a mistake :cry:
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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    the '64-66 Imperials. I had a friend who had a '65 4-door hardtop. It's nice to see something in red other than a fire engine that's bigger than my DeSoto! :)
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    i think its carbureted.
    basically, the top picture of this is what I see when I look inside. I thought maybe it was electronically controlled, but I assume not.
    mazda carb on ebay

    i'll tell ya one thing, I'm surprised. I mean, it has started every time now without having to touch the gas at all. I've never had a carbureted vehicle do that (unless it was after the vehicle was all warmed up and only sat for a few minutes).

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Nice old tank---shame about the gnarly floors but it doesn't look like the rust has penetrated the little "dogs" that attach the body to the frame...carpets look bad, too. Seems like this car took in a lot of water at some point. I'd be interested to peek under the dashboard. With the need for floorpans, the car is approaching full value. If he's into it for $8,000, he's in too much. I'd say the car should sell at about $5,500---$6,500. Let me know how I did. Still 6 days to go....oh, I guess I should have factored in the 15% eBay "overbid" requirement :P
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    hey, look at that, I looked over the car and had in my mind what I was going to say, then read your post and, whaddyaknow, i have VERY similar comments. Great minds ... errrrr... hmmmm... anyway... ;)

    I'm hitting it a bit lower, though. The ill-fitting trunklid, what looks like an ill-fitting driver's door, along with those rotting floors, cracked dash, etc, make me feel like its less than a $5k car. $5k would be tops in my book.

    BUT, you may be right. could get the bidding to $6k-$6500 ... its then just a matter of actually SELLING it for that.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    About $6K seems to be the current bottom end of the market for big late-60s American convertibles of the "second-tier" variety in #3 "driver" condition...in other words, it's not a GM car and it's not a T-Bird or Corvette...so the Chrysler and Ford products basically. Under $6K or so, the offerings tend to be REALLY ratty. Gas mileage is going to kill you on this beast, though. Figure .25 cents a mile easy.

    I agree though, if you want to come out whole, you shouldn't offer more than $4,500 for it. The rusty floors will bedevil any seller until someone goes for it and gets it done.

    If I had young kids and a summer place, this would be a great car to leave there and store in winter.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    aren't Pontiacs, Oldsmobiles, and Buicks also kind of "second tier" compared to a Chevy? Seems like everybody wants an Impala SS convertible, even if it just has a 283, but with Pontiacs, Oldsmobiles, and Buicks, even if it's a big-engined model, it still doesn't have the same clout.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Depends on the engine I think. Some of the big late 60s GM convertibles packed a lot of muscle under the hood.

    But Ford and Chrysler are definitely second-runners in this category. GM just has such a better aftermarket for parts and restoration.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    even my beloved 1976 LeMans can't escape the bling-bling affliction! Somebody make it stop. Please? :(

    I've seen this car pop up on eBay from time to time, but this is the first time I've seen it with those awful wheels. I think in the past it just had Rally II's. I also don't think there was a GT model offered in 1976, so this is most likely something that someone just made up. The interior is definitely not stock.

    Now the LeMans did offer something called the Sport Coupe, which was separate from the base LeMans coupe. I can't figure out exactly the point of it though. It didn't have a bigger, stronger engine. And all the stuff that made it look sporty, like the Rally II wheels, bucket seats, console shifter, full gauges, louvered quarter windows, etc, were still extra-cost options. So the only thing I can see that it added was a few badges and the set of dummy lights on the trunk.

    I've seen this 1976 Grand LeMans on eBay before, too. I like this one better than that pimped-up thing, although I think the first thing I'd do if I had this one was lose the skirts.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    Hmmm that second car is about 20 minutes up the road from me
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,557
    Long wheelbase, glass partition, 24k miles.

    "For less than the cost of a new Buick."

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Rare-LWB-W-Division-Only-24K-Gorgeous-NO-RESERVE-- 40-Pix_W0QQitemZ250027507466QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6384QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    Andre: Sounds like you got a good deal on the Intrepid. And it's certainly provided you with good service. Do you use regular oil or synthetic? I'm thinking of switching. The studies I looked up on the web seem to show longer oil change intervals, possibly longer engine life, and slightly increased power and mpg.

    It's hard to believe that British sports cars were once so common that you could stash them in the barn and forget them. It was a summer car, and so I suppose one winter he put it in there and said to himself that he'd drive it next summer. Then, when that rolled around, he didn't get to it (and maybe the battery was dead), and that started its journey into a pile of scrap metal. It's a small automotive tragedy.
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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    "For less than the cost of a new Buick." Yeah, until you need a brake job or a tuneup! :P

    I've thought about going the synthetic route on my Intrepid, but at almost 7 years old and 122K+ miles, I wonder if it would be worth it? The car did seem like a good deal at the time, especially with the 0.9% financing they offered me. I remember I put $2000 down and the payments were $347.66 per month for 60 months. In later years though, they were discounting them so much that I could've probably gotten a 2004 Intrepid ES or SXT for not much more than what I paid for my base model.

    Heck, with discounting, I guess I could get a base Charger these days for about that price! I think I'm going to just keep it and see how long it lasts. I did an Edmund's TMV on it, and it looks like tradein on it is only around $1800-1900 for an exceptional example, so at this point I might as well just keep it until the transmission or engine or something major goes.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Not a bad buy on the '69 Rolls, if you don't mind skull-crushing, teeth-bashing, lung-collapsing repair and maintenance costs and zero appreciation in value.

    Brakes? $6,000.

    Engine? Priceless....
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    That Rolls does look remarkably preserved. Shame about the maintenance, I almost want to like it. I don't like the divider though. Drive it til it fails then make it a DIY resto-rod.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,689
    I dunno, fin, divider, family vehicle.... I could come to like it..... ahahhaha. As far as RR goes, visually, this one appeals to me. I'm with you on the mechanicals though. As soon as something went wrong, it would be adios to the original junk.
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  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,557
    It's blasphemy, I know, but in my fantasy I'd be using the divider glass as follows: I'd be with my wife up front, and when the kids got too loud in the back we'd just raise the glass. It's in very nice shape. But the guys who do the service on our Olds at the corner gas station wouldn't really be able to work on it.
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I doubt it would run longer than a week or two without something going wrong. There are 24,000 miles on it for a reason, and it's not a good reason. These are very troublesome cars, as in Fiat level/Jaguar level troublesome. It's always something....

    But you could just park it and sit in it and have lunch---very pleasant!

    What should you pay? Should be around $12,000 to a smart buyer to come out whole. You have to anticipate a quick $5,000 on these cars as soon as you buy them. Immediate karate chop guaranteed.

    This puts you at about $17,000, which is actual fair market.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    I'd find it when it needs a brake job or a new engine, pay 5K, I bet a small GM V8 would mate up well to the already-GM transmission in the thing, put a more reasonable brake system on it, and be done. Of course, for that money the cosmetics would have to be PERFECT. Or I bet one could drop a MB M103 engine in it too, maybe it a German/British freakshow to enrage the purists. It's just a Shadow, so no real loss.
  • bumpybumpy Member Posts: 4,425
    i'll tell ya one thing, I'm surprised. I mean, it has started every time now without having to touch the gas at all.

    It's probably running so rich that it doesn't need to set the choke to start. I bet it doesn't even have a computer anywhere.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    A good plan but not do-able. The brake system is fully integrated with the suspension system (all hydraulic) running off two belt-driven hydraulic pumps and all designed and engineered by Citroen.

    Good luck on that one... :P Replacing their clunky V8 would be a good idea, though. It wasn't a very good engine back then---lotsa ghastly problems. Not sure if they were solved by 1969 or not.

    The GM trasmission is in a Rolls case, so it won't match up.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    The GM trasmission is in a Rolls case, so it won't match up.

    Well then see if you can go find my old '69 Bonneville and just yank out the whole drivetrain...400 4-bbl, THM400, rear end, and all! That would also take care of the rear brakes, although you'd still have to find a way to work them in with the front brakes. I wonder how hard it would've been to work a GM full-sized disc brake setup onto something like that Rolls?
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,557
    All the other cars I've listed just for fun.

    This one too--probably...

    We've been thinking of getting a new Accord in the next year or two to replace our 1988 Olds. But, this would be a lot cheaper. Seems like it's been taken care of, but they don't actually say it's a one owner car. If it were a manual I'd be really tempted. On the other hand, my wife perfers autos anyway. We have two kids.

    I always loved these wagons (and the 740s before them) for the same reason Andre hates them--they are so squared off that they have great cargo room and headroom.

    All right, all of those who hate old Volvos tell me that even thinking about it is a bad idea. I live in Louisville, and so this a local car. In any case, I didn't see a place in the listing where you can contact them to ask questions. It's probably in the local paper.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nice-1997-volvo-850-wagon-tinted-windows-third-se- - at_W0QQitemZ190032453711QQihZ009QQcategoryZ31878QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    I have a feeling that Volvo would be a toss of the dice. You could hit the jackpot or you could crap out. Still, it does look like it's in decent shape.

    I don't know if this is any indication of how they age, but my neighbors had a 1989 Volvo 740 wagon. Dark metallic gray, charcoal/black leather interior. They bought it used in 1991. By 1998 they were getting sick of it, and traded it for a new Legacy Outback, which they still have. I remember them saying that the Volvo was getting to the point that every time something would break it would have to go back to the dealer in Virginia, because the local mechanics wouldn't touch it. And they could be guaranteed at least $1000 in bills every time it went back to the dealer.

    But then I've heard other people swear by these cars, so the simple answer I guess, is your mileage may vary! If nothing else though, the price seems decent, so even if you end up with a total turd, you wouldn't be out too much money.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,689
    I am thinking along the same lines. My first thought though is that the price is too low for such a "low mileage car," but then I have to slap myself and remember that my frame of reference is a 214,000-mile Outback. Haha. Ugh. Speaking of turds.... :surprise:

    Looks decent to me. Minor cosmetic damage to the exterior of the car, but solid.
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,689
    Looks like everyone in WA just arrived home from work and jumped on Craig's List. It will not load for me. :mad:

    Oh, there we go. Had to insult it first. :blush: Bleah. That color reminds me of something..... :D
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  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Member Posts: 2,242
    If he likes it so much, why has it been sitting out in the field?

    Impala SS
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    Something only a 70s land yacht lover could love...

    That Impala seems indicative of the typical old car gone to neglect...not enough money to restore her, but not needy enough to be forced to sell her, so the car rots.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    Well, I think I may be the only one here who has owned one personally ... so maybe I can help ya out.

    Mine was a '98 S70, but most of it is the same as the 850. Mine was a turbo, so you don't need to worry about that added complexity with this ebay wagon.

    The buy it now is not that cheap. Mine was only worth about $4k to a dealer and it was a loaded up T5 with 115k miles. And that was maybe 6 months ago (i wound up selling it for $5500 through ebay). SO, I'm thinking he's about right on this car. The old wagons seem to command a bit more than the sedans ... EXCEPT for the T5 models.

    Ask if the following have been replaced and when: ABS module, timing belt, wheel hubs (bearings ... but you can't replace JUST the bearings in these), swaybar endlinks, spring mounts, and rotors.

    If all have been done recently, you are in good shape. The timing belt technically should have been done around 70-80k, so it is needed again at 140k, but ask anyway so you know where you stand. OH, and ask if the tensioner was replaced along with the belt.

    Its a great car when you aren't spending money on maintenance. Between 100k-115k miles, I spent around $2k-$2500 on mine. I probably had it pretty well sorted out by then and it may have been good to me for quite a while afterwards, but it was time to let it go (I do miss it, though).

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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    I can't stand brown cars. And I think the big '71-76 Pontiacs pissed me off a bit because they lost the magic they had in the 60's as they traded sportiness for luxury. But they couldn't pull off that pimpy look as well as an Olds or Buick would. The Pontiacs tended to be more contrived and tacky.

    But for some reason I like that Grand Ville. Even in that Mr. Hankey edition shade of brown. :)
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Shoot, I would like that '66 Imperial as well, but where would you find a floor pan for such a car? I was at the Mopar Nationals in Carlisle and saw floor pans for just about every Mopar muscle car, but nothing for something like an Imperial. I imagine replacing the floor pan, (if you can find one) would be a major and expensive undertaking.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    I don't know if I mentioned it before, but the current edition of "Collectible Automobile" has an excellent article on the 1971-76 full-size Pontiacs.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Heck, I can get the ultimate LaCrosse for that price or a nice "three-holer" Lucerne. What is referring to as "less than the cost of a new Buick?" A brake job? A coolant flush? I heard an oil change is $108 for these things. Well, the car is about the same color as my Park Avenue or my girlfriend's ride.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    Nothin screams big pimpin like a bangin stereo, big chrome wheels, and .... a pep boys steering wheel cover???

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