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Toyota Supra



  • chris65amgchris65amg Posts: 372
    ""I'd be willing to bet that either you saw a previous generation Supra"

    Proabably. I've seen some Supras that have had the bejeezus modded out of them.

    ", or some kid stuck a Supra badge on the back of his Celica."

    Dumb kids
  • matvweymatvwey Posts: 1
    As you all know, Supra will not be comming back, however, it will be replaced by something better :shades: . Below is an article, with some spy shots that you might want to check out.
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    This car is worth the wait, I didnt go for the 350z, I will get this one instead.
  • chris65amgchris65amg Posts: 372
    For it. The 350Z is getting old.
  • callmedrfillcallmedrfill Posts: 729
    The LF-A, and new Supra, will be out within two years. Bank on it!

    The Z was 'Yota's kick in the pants. Selling 40k mediocre sports cars will get 'Yota thinking $$!

    They know they could EASILY build a better Z, they're worried about costs if the model fizzles after 2 years, like sports cars do. With the 3.5 built and ready to rock more than 300HP, the expensive engine is amortized by it's prolific use, as Nissan spreads it around like fertilizer. Nissan gave them the blueprint, now they will perfect the formula! A-la Lexus!

    A juiced 5.0 V8 will power the LF-A (forget a V10), and can produce up to 500Hp with i-VVTi+L. That will also see duty in the GS and maybe the IS, in less powerful forms.

    I HOPE the picture in this months SPEED Magazine (R&T) is close to what we will git! That was a pretty sweet ride! :D

  • jasonvsujasonvsu Posts: 6
    There are several pics of the next Supra going around. The first one that I like was on, then there were several that I didn't, but in the current issue of Speed, there is a good photo of a Supa I think that everyone would be happy with and Toyota wouldn't get sued for. This is really a sweet design. I think that as long as its performs it could kill.
    It doesn't have to be a Corvette but it shouldn't be significantly better than the 350Z. That is the Supra that I want. As a nice round number I think that there should be at least a 340hp V8 and then TRD that to 400hp. I'd be satisfied. The V8 engine could get use in some of the trucks, the Avalon, and the Lexus's.
  • jasonvsujasonvsu Posts: 6
    If nothing else, this car should be a ble to keep up with a Lancer Evo. I would rather have a quick car than a fast car because I am never going to get to drive 155 MPH. If I wanted to go faster I'd buy a Porsche or a Benz.
  • chris65amgchris65amg Posts: 372
    they should have the 3.5L in the base Supra making about 300 hp to squash the 350Z. They should also have a large V8 making about 350-375 hp.

    ""and then TRD that to 400hp.""

    Yeah! (If not higher :) )
  • 1violinist1violinist Posts: 338
    Well, Toyota already has the new 3.5L (from Avalon) that could be easily tuned to 300+ hp. All they need is to mate it to a smooth 6-spd MT and I'm a happy camper.
  • chris65amgchris65amg Posts: 372
    They could probably take the one from the IS and beef it up, shorten throws, etc.

    I also liked the SMT in the MR2. It was a lot better than BMW's *#&% SMG.
  • joseaya5joseaya5 Posts: 1
    I have a 1998 Toyota Supra TT and it has about 455 hp. And I have a Aston Martin V12 Vanquish with 500 hp are more its a very nice car. The new 2007 supras will look similar to the 98 version but not exactly the same if you look at the 2007 Supra and a 98 Supra if you can till the head lights are in the same place but not exactly the same shape and the tail lights are almost the same shape and have a similar style the body style is a more aerodynamic then the 98 version but if you notice the body style is similar in some ways.

    And if you want to see my cars E-mail me.
  • all this talk about the 07 supra having so much power is sweet, but sales can't be that great with a toyota going for $40,000. that reminds me... why did the last supra cease? i'm just sayin.
  • Anyone heard any recent news on the new Supra? I heard it's gonna debut in Tokyo in October, i can't wait to see it!
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    "I heard it's gonna debut in Tokyo in October....."

    Well, it doesn't look good. Edmunds posted part 3 of their Tokyo Auto Show preview today featuring the offerings from Toyota.

    All I see are a bunch of weird transportation module/podmobile concepts featuring a bunch of hybrid/fuel cell powertrains. And slight mention of the Lexus LF-A with a 500hp V10 (and likely near $100k pricetag).

    And absolutely no mention of a new Supra.

    So, it doesn't look like a new Supra will be shown at the Show (at least, not as a 'concept'). I have no idea if Toyota will show us a production version or not once the show officially opens. But I'm getting antsy.....
  • prguy77prguy77 Posts: 14
    I'm getting ansty too. Do you know if the 2007 Supra is even a definite "go" or not? I've heard both answers but don't know for sure. The most common rumor is that it's coming, and that it's targeted straight at the 350Z, RX-8, GTO price/performance category.

  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    I haven't heard a word. Nothing.

    I'm getting more than a bit perturbed........right now, it looks like my next car purchase will be either a Mustang or RX-8.

    Oh, but thank God Toyota will release the $100k V10 powered Lexus LF-A. That's JUST what they need...... :confuse:
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    with that LF-A? A CL55 fighter? Will it even have a back seat? I forget.

    Haven't heard a word on Supra since the 'net went wild with unfounded rumors a while back. I don't think it is happening. An '07 model would be arriving in 12 months or less from right now. Still who knows, car show season is coming up...

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • prguy77prguy77 Posts: 14
    Yup, unless we hear of a new Supra soon i'm down to the RX-8 or the GTO myself. I'm amazed Toyota would concede the sports car category to their competitors. Especially with how well the Mustang is doing.

    Way to go Toyota, talk about wanting to bring in a "younger" buyer and then abandon the MR2, the Celica, and the Supra!
  • khoakhoa Posts: 64
    Toyota has been building boring sport cars, period. Either that or overpriced.
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    "Toyota has been building boring sport cars, period. Either that or overpriced."

    Ummm, okay. Which is one reason why we want a new Supra......
  • Well i guess they are all overpriced then, as i could hardly call a Supra, MR-2 turbo, MR-S, Celica all trac or Celica GT-S, boring....

    Dr.Fill..... its official now that the LF-A has a V10...can we still bank that we'd be getting a supra within the next 2yrs :P

    If we do see a supra, my guesses are:
    1) Based on the same IS/GS platform
    2) IS 350's engine tuned to about 330hp
    3) 2000GT styling (hopefully w/ MKIV style taillights)
    4) 1300kg-1400kg kerbweight
    5) between 26k and 30k

    in addition to that, how about it coming as a targa top? that'd be sweet
  • Jes!

    Targa Tops add weight, but are very pretty.

    A 2000GT update would be most sweet!! ;)

    I'm gonna fire up the Etch-A-Sketch right now!!

  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    any forthcoming Supra would be heavily based on the IS, which leads to the guess that therewould be a Supra250 and a Supra350, just the way there used to be an NA model and a TT as well. That would almost exactly match the Mustang hp for hp, the only question is whether Toyota would want to bring out a low-$20Ks model, or would want to stick to the over-$30K market.

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • Any Supra very much over 30k would intrude on a Lexus IS coupe.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    but bear in mind that BMW charges more for its coupe than for its four-door, no reason Lexus couldn't do so as well. Which would mean maybe $32K for an IS250 coupe, $38K for an IS350 coupe. Whereas I was thinking of a $22K Supra 2.5 and perhaps $30K Supra 3.5. All the best options would be reserved for the Lexus cars, of course, with the Supra more of a purpose-built sport coupe without trying to be everything to all people, the way the 350Z tries to be. It would also match the IS coupes up well, pricewise, to the G35 coupe, while undercutting the 330Ci.

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • nice idea, but i'd prefer my supra in one flavour, thats 3.5 for $26-30k base price thank you. Furthermore, I dont think toyota would want to sell a Supra at a 22k price point...sports car image is important and at 22k would make it 'just another cheap toy'. And i doubt lexus would make both a 250 and a 350 coupe...if they have more than one model coupe, one would likely be an IS460 or something like that. The supra would never be all things to all people and i certainly dont think the 350z is that either. Why rob the supra of what it is just to accomodate a lower end lexus? from their history, seems like toyota/lexus thinks up, not down
  • khoakhoa Posts: 64
    No Supra for me and the rest of the Supra devotees. Without an inline-6, it's not a Supra; so please, nothing based on the IS V6.
  • If you get 306HP, a 6MT, and evolutionary sports car styling, for $30k, it's a great buy!

    Not gonna hold my breath for a $22k Supra, but with the traffic Toyota is now commanding, a well-made, cheaper Supra would sell and have legs, like a Z.

    Mazda doesn't have traffic so it's RX-8 sales are falling fast as the car ages.

    Toyota has grown greatly over the last 10 years, and spreading the cost with the IS, along with a viable sports car market at $30k, will make a good business case.

  • So by that formula, i should assume the new GT-R is no skyline........oh wait.......its not isnt it? :P
    Deal with it....the only company sticking to I6 engines is BMW, and their inline 6's will be phased out soon too.
    If u want turbos, go aftermarket, cause a supra turbo will be more expensive than an NA v6 and the same thing will happen all over again, like in the late 90's.

    fill... exactly what i'm talking about u see where i'm coming from :shades:
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    Celica is gone, Scion covers the lower end sport coupe, a $22K 204 hp Supra would fit the line perfectly. Maybe $23 or 24K. And with RWD, it would be in a class of one at the lower price! It would eat up RX-8 and bottom end 350Z sales despite the power deficit, I am sure, if it were a couple/few thousand $$ less. At least, until the BMW 2-series with the 325's engine shows up.

    And I am sure a $30K 306 hp Supra would kill in the market. Just please, Toyota, don't get too out of hand with the options and packages. Give it superlative handling and a great stereo at the base price, and keep most of the high-end options for the Lexus version.

    Nissan does FANTASTICALLY well selling both 350Z's in FOUR DIFFERENT trims AND a G35 coupe, and BMW sells plenty of coupes and four-doors with two different engines. I don't know why everyone is so pessimistic about Toyota's odds of being able to sell so many variants of the IS platform, some labelled Supra, some labelled IS. Toyota engineering is every bit the equal of these other companies, IMO, even if their days of the most sporting models for the street ARE a few years behind them now.

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • Well the market can only support that many sport cars.......
    And you dont want to imagine the uproar a 204hp supra would cause. Doesnt matter if there is another higher powered new supra should be less powerful than the last generation one. Marketing suicide.
    And the 350z's 4 different trims are all based around the SAME engine and power rating in a braket of about 30hp. An RX-8 bases at about 25k.... toyota isnt gonna get a weak [non-permissible content removed] supra sold a 22-24k, but a 350z stomping behemoth at 26-32k would do just fine. Its about image really.............a 204hp Supra would do nothing but weaken the little respect they have left for building a competent sport car.
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