Toyota Tacoma vs Honda Ridgeline

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  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    that most Ridgeline owners like their truck, and that it's mostly non-Ridgeline owners who are the critics.

    Sure, there are some Ridgline owners who have had problems, but name me a brand of any vehicle that's 100% trouble-free. I'm sure I won't have to look too far to find Tacoma owners (what ustazzaf owns) or Silverado owners (what geo9 owns) who have had some problems, or who aren't 100% satisfied with their purchase.

    Bottom line: If the owner is happy with their purchase—that's all that matters. Can we at least all agree with that?

    Bob
  • trashingtontrashington Member Posts: 21
    I too am a Ridge owner and couldn't be happier with the decision to get it. I always stay up on these forums and read what people have to say either way about the vehicle and have found that the majority of the negative comments are from people who have never even driven the Ridge. Unless you own it and have had problems with it first hand, you really have no basis for argument.

    You are allowed to have opinions and call it ugly (I find many american cars to be ugly, but that's my opinion), but to try and argue the performance of it just by looking at a spec sheet is rediculous. Before I purchased this vehicle I test drove 4 of the Japanese trucks, the Frontier, Titan, Tacoma, and Ridgeline. My decision came down to the Tacoma and Ridge and I test drove each back to back on multiple occations. The comfort and performance of the ridge in my personnal opinion from my real world test driving, not from numbers on a paper, was better than that of the Tacoma, and therefore led to my purchase of the Ridge without any regrets.
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Member Posts: 408
    but to try and argue the performance of it just by looking at a spec sheet is rediculous

    You really hit the nail on the head. A spec sheet may point you in the general direction, but you can't tell until you put your butt in the seat. I was really looking forward to my 05 taco, but after a side by side comparison, the Taco just doesn't compare unless you need that extra edge in more off road ability or extra 1500 lbs of towing capacity. People that have no direct experience with the RL really have no business commenting. I mean I hardly need people reiterating what has been said and can be read else where. If people have experience with the truck, please chime in. If people don't have experience, Their opinion is pretty much 3rd rate.
  • geo9geo9 Member Posts: 735
    Then I suppose if I was a honda "cheerleader" as well as
    a NON ridge owner I would be welcome here then?

    BUT as I have seen the posts from other ridge owners with
    problems. They sure have been attacked by the honda
    faithful and pretty much went away....................

    I notice that at the ridglineowners site too............
    That one lady poster is esp. nasty over there to ANYONE who
    posts with a problem ! :surprise:
  • geo9geo9 Member Posts: 735
    The guys at PUTC are waiting for that strut link...................
  • bobwhobobwho Member Posts: 24
    Hey folks,

    Can't we all get along. Everyone has their own opinion. That's what makes the USA so great. That said, I'm a long term Toyota 4x4 P/U owner(16 yrs). My Toy has been good to me with few problems. When I was looking at the new 05 Tacoma's, I was dismayed to hear of the problems. "Loud clucking sounds, paint chipping, Leaf spring problems, water leaks, etc. Now I know it's a new model and every new model has problems. Honda has had a few problems and they have been fixed. The new Tacoma still has ongoing problems, so whats up with them. I've looked at the the P/U's out, Ford, Chevy, GMC, Toyota, Nissan and Honda. Every single one has problems, not one is perfect except for the opinion of the owner. So lets everyone just cool their jets and agree to disagree.
  • ustazzafustazzaf Member Posts: 311
    I don't recall saying anything about vehicle payload other than to say that the Honda Dealer claimed that the Tacoma has a 1500 pound towing capacity compared to the Honda's 5000 stock from the factory. If I did mention payload, I was mistaken as I don't even know the payload of my Tacoma. I do know if the truck is squatting, I need to grab my trailer, and if my trailer is going to be over 5K I need to grab my son's gas sucking F150. It's not worth a breakdown on the road in order to try getting that last bag of cement in one load.
    As for 4x4 of the year, as I said before, everyone gets their turn, deserving or not (including the Tacoma). Truck of the year needs to be at the end of the year, not the start. By then, all models have been released and most have had atleast a 10K trial period. Truck (car, bike, ect...) of the year is useless in it's current form. Ya, it says that Toyota came out with a totally new truck that we like, but if it is going to breakdown every other month, I might as well go get a 1968 Ford that I know I can atleast fix without 30K worth of tools. I didn't even know the Tacoma was truck of the year when I bought mine. I bought because I have had excellent experiences with Toyota and I needed a larger back seat than the Access Cab Tundra that I had. I did go look at the Honda after buying my Tacoma, and they do have some cool things. The double action tailgate, although not new, is nice as well as necessary for use with the trunk. It is a whole lot more ackward to try removing items from the trunk wit the tailgate dropped. I also liked the way the rear seat folds. All the trucks have good and bad. I like mine, and you like yours. We are happy. Yee haw!
  • toykicktoykick Member Posts: 104
    All in all.. you guys are right about first year productions... I will admit, No matter how hard a manufacturer tries to fix out their bugs , first year model is always going to have problems even if its honda. I like Honda But the ridgeline isnt a real truck lol :P c'mon Think about it... everybody likes refined trucks. but Trucks arnt meant to ride like cars and only be able to go on washboard roads, people usually buy trucks because their useful, they can haul crap around or tow a small boat etc... The Ridgeline Has great reviews but then again its around 28k theres only one type of configuration... gets worst gas mileage then the tacoma & frontier and tows slower... to be exact... it takes the ridgeline 6 seconds more to tow 4500 pounds 0-60 then the Double Cab 4x4 Tacoma... and the ridgeline has an advantage being it has full time all wheel drive. as for acceleration 0-60, ridgeline 7.9, Frontier 7.6, Tacoma 7.1 &s-runner 6.8 thats as quick as the Acura RSX type S... not to mention it pulls more Gs then the RSX :P blind loyal lol...
  • toykicktoykick Member Posts: 104
    oops meant X-runner not s-runner..
  • gd113gd113 Member Posts: 114
    gets worst gas mileage then the tacoma & frontier
    I picked one of your great observations to respond to. Bob can handle the rest. He probably just has to re-post one of his previous explanations.

    Ridgeline 16/21, Frontier 15/20, Tacoma 17/21, don't see notable mpg differences here. These are per Edmunds. :P

    but Trucks arnt meant to ride like cars
    This one cracks me up too. :P
  • toykicktoykick Member Posts: 104
    ridgeline Averaged 14.9 mpg. a V8 300hp chevy silverado averages 17... a v8 05 DC tundra averages 16 mpg with vvti. yeah kinda cracks me up and other truck owners when some people compare the ridgeline to full size trucks... Just like honda did when they launched it...

    yep the ridgline is a car... most modern trucks feel like cars, but can handle offroad obstacles and could be abused... the Ridgeline cant even handle washboard roads... what gives you the idea its a better offroad truck then other mid-sized trucks? its only been in edmunds long term test and has had more issues then the tacoma which has been around longer then the ridgeline...
  • ustazzafustazzaf Member Posts: 311
    OK, I will put in my 2 cents. Trucks ARE meant to drive like cars. They shouldn't be, but that sells trucks, so they are. Think about it. How many trucks are sold that are not extended cab or double cab? Is it to make the truck more tuff? No. It is so you can throw a couple kids in the back. There are exceptions. My dad bought an extended cab to secure his tools. I bet his rear seat was occupied less than 1/10 of 1 percent of the miles. My Toyota has 2K on it, of which atleast 1K was with one or more munchkins in the back seat. I bet that is about average. As for the $28K price, it must not be the Northwest. The cheapest Ridgeline I saw was 32.5K with the cloth seats, no sunroof or staelite radio. If my truck gets my trailer where I am going without constantly shifting, I don't care how fast it is in the quarter mile. Fulltime AWD is nice if you don't know how to push a button to engage 4X4, but it sucks more gas, and I read in one of the reviews that the Ridgeline AWD only works if you are in 2nd or 1st gear. I don't know that to be true. Who the #$^%$ cares if it pulls G's? If I want g's I will buy a Vette.
  • gd113gd113 Member Posts: 114
    ridgeline Averaged 14.9 mpg

    Where are you getting your information? This is what one person got. I can tell you I own one and I get 17mpg in mixed driving and 21-22mpg on the highway. These are similar to what other owners get.

    what gives you the idea its a better offroad

    No one here has said its better off road. :confuse: I think its clear. Toyota and Nissan and others offer off road editions, ie, TRD, NISMO. Honda doesn't.
  • gd113gd113 Member Posts: 114
    Fulltime AWD is nice if you don't know how to push a button to engage 4X4, but it sucks more gas, and I read in one of the reviews that the Ridgeline AWD only works if you are in 2nd or 1st gear.

    It is always in AWD mode. You must be in a lower gear to lock the rear differential. So you got all wheels going and you can lock the wheels when you need it.
  • toykicktoykick Member Posts: 104
    lol The regular tacoma cant handle Gs... The X-runner does, it gets above .90 in some tests... thats above the 350z and RSX but the 350z will own it on the track... its a faster vehicle...
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    lol The regular tacoma cant handle Gs... The X-runner does

    The X-Runner is hardly a "regular" Tacoma. I don't think anyone who buys an X-Runner expects it do any "work." It's strictly a go-fast play vehicle, and nothing more.

    Compare a normal Tacoma with Ridgeline, and I bet the Ridgline will out-handle it; and still match or better it for most work-oriented tasks.

    Bob
  • eaglegeagleg Member Posts: 87
    Did you go pick up your Ridgeline yet Bob?
  • toykicktoykick Member Posts: 104
    no doubt... but then again honda only has one base engine, and one configuration... no flat bed option, no long bed etc ...
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Not in the market.

    Bob
  • eaglegeagleg Member Posts: 87
    Don't know what you're missing !
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Oh I think I do. I just don't need a truck at the moment. I've got a utility trailer that handles most of my "truck" needs. If I got another truck, it would be as a second vehicle, not as a daily driver. However, I'm not in a position at the moment for such a luxury; still have two kids to help with grad school. When they graduate, and are more settled, maybe then...

    In any event, I like to keep up with what's happening in the truck world, which is why I hang out here.

    Bob
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Member Posts: 408
    I've got a utility trailer that handles most of my "truck" needs.

    That's a smart idea. I've always thought a 4x8 trailer is by far the best way to haul big loads rather than any truck bed.
  • bill55bill55 Member Posts: 25
    Has anyone read Truck Trends review of the Ridgeline.Heres the link.
    http://trucktrend.com/roadtests/pickup/163_0508_ridgeline/
  • geo9geo9 Member Posts: 735
    Hey Gear......or is it "ladyridge" ? The crew over at PUTC is STILL
    waiting for that strut PROOF link...................................

    BOB..............You USED to be the subie baja cheerleader......
    How come YOU didn't BUY one of them either????????????????
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Member Posts: 408
    The crew over at PUTC is STILL
    waiting for that strut PROOF link...................................


    PUTC?? Isn't that the dead forum that has about 1 post a month in the import section. Sorry, I'd have to be climbing the walls in boredom to post there. If I have absolutly nothing to do, I might stop by. I posted the content of the other forum here. Believe it, or don't believe it. I hardly care. You are obviously just some teenager posting on the net. You will most likely be ignored in the future. Don't take it personally. I just don't often talk to kids on the internet. Do well in school and don't do drugs. Best wishes in your future endeavors.
  • geo9geo9 Member Posts: 735
    C'Mon now........You KNOW what thread is waiting for your answer
    on those sub par struts on the ridgeline!

    Remember "I have PROOF" as you posted. Where is it?

    So you ARE ladyridge then.................

    sORRY.......No teenager here.....Just a real truck owner thats all.

    A trailer to go to the home store............CHUCKLE !!!!!!!!!!! :P
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    BOB..............You USED to be the subie baja cheerleader......
    How come YOU didn't BUY one of them either????????????????


    Wrong again. I'm STILL a fan of the Baja. Why didn't I buy one? Same answer as above. I wasn't in the market.

    Bob
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Member Posts: 408
    Remember "I have PROOF" as you posted. Where is it?

    I really have no idea what your talking about. Please copy and paste the entirety of a post where I've said "I have proof" . Proof of what???? I've already posted any strut info I have right here. The link if I could post it, would only be to another poster on another forum that would have no credibility with you. Believe the post as I've posted it here or not, I hardly care. It's from a Honda insider and he wishes to remain anonymous, and I will respect that.

    Ladyridge????

    If your not a teenager, then you are truly one sad adult. I think everyone here would agree.
  • geo9geo9 Member Posts: 735
    Read post #1564 in the 'ridge forum. Just wanted the link to the
    strut issues or facts you posted about...............
  • blueridgelineblueridgeline Member Posts: 4
    I am looking at the Ridgeline and Tacoma 4 door 6 cly 6 speed. I need to get a hitch installed on either one. I have researched the tacoma and see that the 6 speed already has the cooler so it just needs a plug-in wire for $30 and a class 3 hitch for $169 to make it tow ready to 6500. I can do that myself. What does the Ridgeline need to be tow ready? I have read that you have to tear part of the dash apart to install a relay or something. Then run wires back to the hitch area. Also have to buy from the dealer because no after market places have the hitch. I can't imagine Honda claiming the vehicle is tow ready if it requires that much modifications. Can someone set the record straight? I intend to buy soon.
  • ustazzafustazzaf Member Posts: 311
    The towing issue is one that I brought up to the Honda dealer. He told me that the Ridge has 5K capacity stock, where as the Tacoma has something like 1500. So, being the loyal Toyota guy that I am, I had to investigate. Neither vehicle come stock with a wire harness, so technically, neither can pull anything without add-ons. So, now we add the electrical hookup. I couldn't find the connector for the Toy for less than $60. The Honda dealer couldn't (or wouldn't) tell me what their hook up entailed. Now I have wires, but still can't tow. The 1500 capacity for the Toy is using the bumper on a 4 cyl 4X2. So I add a ball to the bumper and I can tow 1500. Can't add a ball to the bumper of the Ridge, but because I can't buy the mod kit either, for $600 they add the hitch. Adding $50 for a receiver I can now tow 5K. I am now $11K higher with the Ridge. Now I add the V6 4X4 Tacoma with a 6 speed manual, and I have a 6500 capacity and I am still 7K below the Ridge. Of course I went with the top of the line Tacoma, so I only saved 5K over the bottom of the line Ridge, but I have to live with myself everyday knowing that I don't have a trunk.
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Member Posts: 408
    Read post #1564 in the 'ridge forum. Just wanted the link to the
    strut issues or facts you posted about...............


    The qoute below in bold is not something I said. it is an excerpt from the Honda insider. His whole post is posted in its entirety in post #1546 of the Ridgeline forum here on Edmunds. I believe he his referring to duplicating this test or further investigation into the struts taken off the Edmunds truck and then making the facts known. It doesn't sound like it has happened yet, but something that is being planned. I too am looking forward to this, so let me know if you hear of any info on it.

    Once again I did not say the statement that is in bold below.

    I am confident when the rest of the FACTS are available and collaborated by an engineering team, the truth will be told.
  • sabersaber Member Posts: 5
    I am an extremely happy Ridgeline owner. I ordered (from etrailer) and installed a Hidden Hitch. No drilling was required. The wiring harness is available online as well. You do not need to order from the dealership. However, if you want OEM from Honda, there are numerous websites that sale genuine Honda accessories. When I ordered my Ridgeline I found the best prices for all accessories I wanted and presented those to the owner of the dealership. He met those prices without a problem.
  • wooddorkerwooddorker Member Posts: 300
    "I am an extremely happy Ridgeline owner. I ordered (from etrailer) and installed a Hidden Hitch.

    I don't have a Ridgeline, but would like to chime in on eTrailer & Hidden Hitch. Both operations are TOP NOTCH!

    I've used both for at least 5 hitches, without a "hitch"! :shades:

    Typical hitches install with 4-6 bolts, "leaders" are included to thread the bolts though box frames, and wiring connects or "wyes" into existing connectors. There is no welding, soldering, splicing, etc... eTrailer usually has .pdf files of the installation instructions, you can decide ahead of time if the job is something you'd like to tackle.
  • georgekaplangeorgekaplan Member Posts: 20
    Anybody know where to find info about what new features or changes will be on the 2007 Honda Ridgeline?

    And when it may be released?

    George
  • ljgaffljgaff Member Posts: 2
    I have always said that if Honda builds a truck , I would buy it. Where is the truck?
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Member Posts: 408
    I have always said that if Honda builds a truck , I would buy it. Where is the truck?

    If you need to haul a half ton or tow 5,000 lbs as well as travel on anything that could loosely be defined as a road, Honda has got the truck for you. It's called the Ridgeline. They also throw in all the amenities and ride of a nice 4 door sedan.
    I've driven one for the past 7 months and 6,500 miles on road and off, and it's been stellar. I'm also averaging close to 20 mpg which is a relief.
  • woofwoof Member Posts: 27
    The older Hondas were better; I had an '87 Integra and '93 Accord which were very good vehicles. But my '01 and '02 Accords were the worst vehicles I've ever owned. As an engineer, I understand that things can and do go wrong. But the worst part was Honda's--and my dealer's--terrible customer support and bad attitude: "Hondas are perfect." Right. I would have never believed that I would have been treated so poorly when trying to resolve continuing problems. No more Hondas for me.
  • brihambriham Member Posts: 33
    I really like them both. Personally I like the styling of the Ridgeline(although many seem to hate it).

    Here's a video of the Tacoma: http://www.automedia.com/video_vault.asp

    Here is a review of the Ridgeline by autoMedia.com:

    http://www.automedia.com/2006/Honda/Ridgeline/a/rts20050301hr/1
  • sandimassandimas Member Posts: 1
    your research is about as unfounded as your so called comparison.you have no clue as to what your talking about 11k for a trailer hitch!!!!!!!! come on the ridge comes standard with dual 160 watt fans tranny cooler power steering cooler and radiator cooler and comes standard pre wired for hitch assembly......and you dont add ball hitches to bumpers in the 21st centry slick the tow assembly has a reciever in the assembly
  • ustazzafustazzaf Member Posts: 311
    I didn't say that the hitch was 11 grand, but that is obvious. What I said was that it costs 11 grand more to get a base model tow ready Ridgeline compared to a Tacoma. A top of the line Tacoma with a larger capacity is only about 5 grand below the base model Ridgeline (Seattle area anyway). And yes, I do see people using their bumpers to tow almost daily. If the dealer gave me bad info on the wiring, cry to him. He said making the vehicle tow ready involved installing a relay behind the dash and running wires back. Maybe he just didn't want to sell a truck.
  • francefrance Member Posts: 2
    Just bought it, love the truck, but have a minor drifting to right,, was told by dealership 1- motor torque. (even while coasting ? tire pressure is equal!) 2- factories make them this way incase people fall asleep the vehicle wont go into on coming traffic.

    Has anyone experienced this? is this common for ridgeline? please help.....
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Both answers are bogus. The CR-V had a similar problem, which we've dubbed "PTTR". The solution often requires rotating the tires, fixing the alignment, or turning a support plate where the shocks are mounted.
  • blueridgelineblueridgeline Member Posts: 4
    I went ahead and got the Ridgeline because the Toyotas were sold out. The first one lasted almost 6 weeks. The dealer did an even trade because it would not stop quitting in traffic and they could not fix it. My second one just went in Thursday for the same problem. Anyone else having this problem? It dies at stop lights or at 70 MPH. Usually it will start again after 30 minutes to an hour. Normally it happens with my 3K pound trailer behind. Not always though. Any help would be appreciated.
  • dockeendockeen Member Posts: 68
    I saw my first "on the road" Ridgeline last week.

    You just don't see them too much here in the Florida panhandle area - even though they have them on the lot at the Honda dealer.

    Maybe its because they have not advertized much here.

    I am not being a wiseguy here, I am just surprised they have not sold better here.

    Wayne
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I trhink it depends on where you live as to the popularity. I live in the Baltimore/DC area, and I see them almost daily on the roads. I suspect that's not the case in rural parts of the country and/or "Middle America," where conservative thinking usually dominates and traditional ideas about what a truck "should" be takes forever to change.

    Bob
  • dockeendockeen Member Posts: 68
    I know I was not taken with the styling of the Ridgeline (not was I taken with the Avalanche that it, in some ways reminds me of).

    My wife and I looked at one on a Sunday, and were a bit put off at sticker price, because at that time I thought I was going to get a Baja. I never drove one.

    Later, after hurricane Dennis, and out thinking shifted to a larger vehicle that could be an evacuation vehicle, I never got around to driving the Ridgeline before I bought my Taco. I should have, instead of driving a Colorado, which made no sense for the role, and I did not like.

    Wayne
  • trashingtontrashington Member Posts: 21
    Sticker price is not what you'll pay or should pay for any vehicle. I have been hearing of people getting the RTS ridge for $26500, not too bad for all the nice features that come standard. A comprably equipped taco will definitely cost more than that.
  • ustazzafustazzaf Member Posts: 311
    The innovative V-6 pickup costs about $10,000 more than other compact trucks in the United States. And that is hurting sales, says Koichi Kondo, president of American Honda Motor Co. "We will take measures if needed," Kondo said at a press event in Tokyo two weeks ago.
    Right from the horse's mouth. I still haven't seen a barebones Ridgeline for less than $32K, but if they do lower the price, then it makes the people who paid $35K for the same truck that is now selling for $26K look pretty foolish. And the boss himself said that they were willing to leave the price up long enough to gouge the fools before lowering the price. That's a company I want to deal with.
    Toyotas may seem overpriced to some, but the bottom line is that they can't keep them on the lot and I can guarantee that the 05 I bought in March won't be $8K more than the same 06 in December. When the new selling price of your vehicle drops $8K, your resale take a major hit.
  • dockeendockeen Member Posts: 68
    "Sticker price is not what you'll pay or should pay for any vehicle."

    I understand. :)

    The sticker can hurt the dealer in the sense that "sticker shock" can drive someone off the lot without the sales team even having a chance to show the customer what they can do.

    Wayne
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