Mystery car pix

ab348

fintail said:

Did Mopar have unique models? None come to mind.

These links offer some answers:

https://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/the-cars-of-canada/

https://www.allpar.com/world/canada.html

A lot of it seems like decisions made because of previous decisions made, and so on and so on, until nothing really made sense.

I recall that the folks decided on a new '71 Dodge Monaco 4-door hardtop. The dealer they liked didn't have a suitable one in stock but was willing to do a factory order from Windsor. Mom fell in love with the color combo on a Chrysler Newport 2-door hardtop that was in the showroom: Tawny Gold metallic paint (code Y8, a pretty sort of dark green-gold) with a matching vinyl roof, and a gold cloth and vinyl interior, very '70s. I remember wishing they had just taken the Chrysler, but whatever. I was happy because the Monaco came with a 383-2bbl standard according to my car magazines. Imagine my surprise 6 weeks later when the car arrived to discover that it had a 318 under the hood. That was what came standard in them in Canada. I presume it was intended to make the price a bit cheaper in this market. Was still a good car.

andys120

tmart

Pony Solstice. Interesting design, but I preferred the Chevy version.

kyfdx

Looks like a special edition of some kind. Nice wheels

stickguy

No Chevy. You probably mean the Saturn Sky, which did have a nicer nose I think. Still no storage space.

andys120

tmart said:

Pony Solstice. Interesting design, but I preferred the Chevy version.

Yup, 2006 Pontiac Solstice

ab348

Well, my new shiny PC was able to use the pulldowns here to post images and emotorcons for a whole day before they stopped responding again. Jeez. Back to remote hosting of pics.

Unknown (to me) USAF base around 1961, right click to view image to expand:

stickguy

Renault dauphine down the row hiding behind a rambler

andys120

stickguy said:

Renault dauphine down the row hiding behind a rambler

Wow, you have sharp eyes. Another couple of imports are closer to the Camera, a Fiat (600?) sandwiched between a '56-ish Olds two-tone and a '58 Chevy wagon. Just past that wagon you can make out the nose.

Oldest cars are bunched together in the row second from front. I
see a pair of 52-54 Fords, two shades of blue between the Olds convertibles in that row.
They are next to a '53-4 Chevy.

The newest cars are from the compact wave of 1960, a Ford Falcon in second row, just past a '61 Chevy wagon. Same row across from sign that reads "Civilian Personnel Office" is what appears to be a Pontiac Tempest.

ab348

Across the street in that lot, lurking near a fire hydrant, is some sort of Euro import compact. My first thought is a Simca or Opel wagon of some sort.

tmart

I'll take the 57 Ford Sunliner on the first row.

fintail

Import wagon in the distant lot kind of resembles a Peugeot 403 to me. I think I see 3x 61 Chevys in that lot as well.

In the nearest row on the other side of the 58 Chevy, I see an MGA. Fiat is indeed a 600.

Where are all the 60 Fords?

ab348

fintail said:

Where are all the 60 Fords?

My first thought as well.

None I can see here either (great pic from 1965, same rules, right click to view/enlarge):




But wait! The photographer turned around, and hey, presto!

stickguy

no images showing for me.

omarman

ab348 said:

fintail said:

Where are all the 60 Fords?

My first thought as well.

None I can see here either (great pic from 1965, same rules, right click to view/enlarge):




But wait! The photographer turned around, and hey, presto!

I like the 2 door Ranch wagon.

fintail

Interesting stuff. I should have thought of the link between a lot of RHD export cars and Canadian production, I think those odd 50s Mopars were also sold in RHD markets. And then in the 90s there were maybe a couple Chrysler badged cars in Canada sold in the US as Dodges, maybe.

A 71 Chrysler that wasn't green? Rare! Oh wait, green gold My grandpa had a 71 Newport 4 door HT, bought before I was born of course, but I have seen some pics. Green on green, a 383 according to my uncle. It wasn't trouble-free, lots of hard starting issues IIRC, apparently the 65 that it replaced was less temperamental.

ab348 said:

fintail said:

Did Mopar have unique models? None come to mind.

These links offer some answers:

https://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/the-cars-of-canada/

https://www.allpar.com/world/canada.html

A lot of it seems like decisions made because of previous decisions made, and so on and so on, until nothing really made sense.

I recall that the folks decided on a new '71 Dodge Monaco 4-door hardtop. The dealer they liked didn't have a suitable one in stock but was willing to do a factory order from Windsor. Mom fell in love with the color combo on a Chrysler Newport 2-door hardtop that was in the showroom: Tawny Gold metallic paint (code Y8, a pretty sort of dark green-gold) with a matching vinyl roof, and a gold cloth and vinyl interior, very '70s. I remember wishing they had just taken the Chrysler, but whatever. I was happy because the Monaco came with a 383-2bbl standard according to my car magazines. Imagine my surprise 6 weeks later when the car arrived to discover that it had a 318 under the hood. That was what came standard in them in Canada. I presume it was intended to make the price a bit cheaper in this market. Was still a good car.

imidazol97

stickguy said:

no images showing for me.

https://www.shorpy.com/files/images/hollywoodvine_0_2.jpg

https://www.shorpy.com/files/images/hollywoodvine65.jpg

stickguy

not sure why but I just get "not found" error messages on these.

fintail

403 NOT FOUND for me

ab348

Odd, it works for me.

Perhaps the host site has some sort of block on direct linking to images without going through them first. Here is a link to pic #1:
https://www.shorpy.com/node/5008?size=_original#caption

And #2:
https://www.shorpy.com/node/3773?size=_original#caption

kyfdx

fintail said:

403 NOT FOUND for me

Same

transamsd73

The Pontiac Solstice was pretty cool, although I liked the Saturn Sky design better. I believe it was Hennessy that made a version of the Solstice. It had an LT1 v-8 pushing around 400 HP! I think it was called the Monster Solstice.Hard to find one now.

fintail

Links worked, must be as you say, no direct linking without an initial visit. Now that I visited, the pics in the initial post work.

60 Ford is a Galaxie.

Lostwrench3

Ahaa, I thought we had that photo of that AFB before. There it is, on page #975.

ab348

Ooops.

andys120

She's real fine...



This one is really obvious but I posted it because it represents a key phase in the evolution of the great American Muscle Car. Before the factories started putting their most powerful motors in smaller cars they would offer them in their full sizers and the go-fast guys would order them in the lighter low-end stripper versions because Less Weight=Go Faster. Now it certainly wasn't unheard of for someone to buy a 413 Fury or a 406 Galaxie 500 but the younger guys, particularly this interested in drag racing would go for the strippers.

The illustrated car actually began life with the inline six and was "converted" to a 409 with a 4-speed. The result was typical of what we'd see in the early 60s, what looked like a cheap bench seat slug but was betrayed if you were sharp-eyed enough to note the engine badge.

The 409 was a development of the 348 CID V8 that is considered the first of the big block Chevy V8s. The 409 version was one of the first to be immortalized in a popular song. It wasn't long before Ford with it's 406/427 and Chrysler Corp with it's 413/426 got into the battle.

Lostwrench3

Zoom in on those unusual tires. Coker?

tmart

Have never seen tires like that.

fintail

Modern repro bias ply? Or radials made to look like bias ply?

tmart

The bias ply tires I had didn’t have that sidewall bulge. Don’t see how an inner tube would work. Would think those tires have to be tubeless.

andys120

texases

When I Googled '1946 REO Speedwagon', there it was!

ab348

stickguy

Bmw “zed” 1. Maybe a 1990?

Wheeler dealers did one of these.

andys120

Unable to post photo, tried 3 different browsers!

bhill2

andys120 said:

She's real fine...



This one is really obvious but I posted it because it represents a key phase in the evolution of the great American Muscle Car. Before the factories started putting their most powerful motors in smaller cars they would offer them in their full sizers and the go-fast guys would order them in the lighter low-end stripper versions because Less Weight=Go Faster.

OK, rather than doing annoying research, let me pose a trivia question: did Chevy ever offer the 409 in anything smaller than a full sizer?

andys120

bhill2 said:

andys120 said:

She's real fine...


OK, rather than doing annoying research, let me pose a trivia question: did Chevy ever offer the 409 in anything smaller than a full sizer?

I don't think so, smaller Chevys have come w 396s, 427s, 454s but not AFAIK 409s.

andys120

texases said:

When I Googled '1946 REO Speedwagon', there it was!

I got this>

tmart

Was also offered in Bel Airs and Biscaynes IIRC.

ab348

The 348 and 409 were stopgaps. Designed as a truck engine. Big ol' lump.

andys120

fintail

Toyota Sports 800, I think we saw one not too long ago

andys120

fintail said:

Toyota Sports 800, I think we saw one not too long ago

Yes, you're right but it's a nice picture so I thought I'd post it. The Sports 800 was the first 'Yota sports car. it was based on a frumpy JDM sedan called the Public. Power came from an air-cooled flat four. Apparently exporting to the US was considered but they had second thoughts and kept it home.

fintail

Can't be much smaller than a Spitfire or Spridget, right?

andys120 said:

Yes, you're right but it's a nice picture so I thought I'd post it. The Sports 800 was the first 'Yota sports car. it was based on a frumpy JDM sedan called the Public. Power came from an air-cooled flat four. Apparently exporting to the US was considered but they had second thoughts and kept it home.

andys120

It was about the size of those but even lighter thanks to aluminum alloy top/hood/trunklid.

ab348

Trying again, images are darn near totally non-functional here now.

stickguy

not seeing image again. but looked at the URL and found it, and never heard of it before, but dang is it ugly.

fintail

Triumph 2000, appears to be an earlier car, LHD assumed US model with no sidemarkers, so pre-68 .

andys120

I thought it was a Dolomite, but the C-post is thinner.

texases

One went for $20k on BAT last year...seems high to me.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-triumph-2000/