Mystery car pix

andys120

fintail said:

I recall that pic, Atlanta. Car at lower left, nearest the camera, is a 62 Galaxie 2 door HT. Ford must have been popular there.

The real mystery car is moving away from the cameta, far right lane, beside I guess is a 63-64 big Olds wagon - a smaller foreign wagon.

The little wagon hiding behind the Olds wagon is a Borgward Isabella Combi, a rare item.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Borgward_Isabella_Kombi_(10498248096).jpg

andys120

kyfdx said:

The calendar I took the picture from says it is a’61 Sunbeam Alpine

There's a strong resemblance between the Alpine and the Oceane.

https://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/galleria_images/4478/4478_p3_l.jpg

https://www.berigaudvehiculesanciens.fr/media/com_mtree/images/listings/m/3353.jpg

kyfdx

andys120 said:

kyfdx said:

The calendar I took the picture from says it is a’61 Sunbeam Alpine

There's a strong resemblance between the Alpine and the Oceane.

https://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/galleria_images/4478/4478_p3_l.jpg

https://www.berigaudvehiculesanciens.fr/media/com_mtree/images/listings/m/3353.jpg

I believe you.... it's just a free calendar from my insurance agent. It could surely be wrong.

fintail

I think it is a Simca 1601 break, probably as rare as a Borgward, I think I see the 4 doors:

andys120 said:

The little wagon hiding behind the Olds wagon is a Borgward Isabella Combi, a rare item.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Borgward_Isabella_Kombi_(10498248096).jpg

stickguy

I thought the red car was a Sunbeam too. But we all know how bad I am at this now!

andys120

Based on the smaller tail lights, I'm sticking w Borgward.

magnette

The Simca in the picture is probably a 1500 or a 1501 - I don't think they had a 1600.

Fin, the one in your picture is a 1300 according to the on badges the tailgate. In fairness they are like Audis - you can only tell the small one from the larger if they are alongside each other - like those Russian dolls
Simcas must have been rare over there by then though

magnette

I see a 62 Ford Galaxie followed by a 60 Impala and 3 behind the XK150 a 63 Falcon

fintail

Definitely, I think Renault was more common. It's amazing how diverse the US car market was compared to how bland and homogenized it is now - today you have two choices: the false pretense of sport, or the false pretense of ruggedness - that's all there is and there ain't no more.

magnette said:

The Simca in the picture is probably a 1500 or a 1501 - I don't think they had a 1600.

Fin, the one in your picture is a 1300 according to the on badges the tailgate. In fairness they are like Audis - you can only tell the small one from the larger if they are alongside each other - like those Russian dolls
Simcas must have been rare over there by then though

ab348

On the topic of car carriers, this one has an interesting load.

fintail

Lower left, MB R107, likely a 1986+ 560SL.

bhill2

magnette said:

I see a 62 Ford Galaxie followed by a 60 Impala and 3 behind the XK150 a 63 Falcon

FWIW if one is interested in minutiae, I think the 60 Chevy is a Bel-Air. I don't see a contrasting color stripe on the rear fender. Also, I don't think they made an Impala two-door sedan.

magnette

bhill2 said:

magnette said:

I see a 62 Ford Galaxie followed by a 60 Impala and 3 behind the XK150 a 63 Falcon

FWIW if one is interested in minutiae, I think the 60 Chevy is a Bel-Air. I don't see a contrasting color stripe on the rear fender. Also, I don't think they made an Impala two-door sedan.

I am interested in the minutiae and am not too well versed on some of the differences between individual models like this - thanks for telling me as I did think the side trim was for an Impala and didn't know about the colour stripe within the rear wing decoration - as for them not making an Impala 2 door sedan that had also escaped me so now I know!

ab348

Spot the antique car:

magnette

That's great - speed contrast must have been a factor though
The old girl is clearly one of Henry's but I am sure there are ways to distinguish which year of production I don't know although I think they ditched Brass radiators in the teens

The approaching white car is a Meteor Rideau and I think 1956

magnette

Somebody still loves it

Seen at a car show a couple of years ago
The grey car by the big tree is a rarity here now, too

magnette

Edinburgh - 1959 or 60

The contrast with what was on your roads by then is quite stark although Edinburgh would be a more conservative place then than, say, London.

Should expand if you click it

stickguy

Certainly not much passing for style back then. That people looks like a really early one, based on the headlights.

magnette

Over to you

I think this was Southampton docks but not sure - should expand with a click

magnette

The origins of this one are clear but it was new to me,,,

stickguy

magnette said:

Over to you

I think this was Southampton docks but not sure - should expand with a click

These, have style! Interesting that dome have push by hand only stickers. Doesn’t bode well for future owners.

fintail

Later run Model T Tudor, roughly 1925.

ab348 said:

Spot the antique car:

fintail

Red car is a Yugo Sana, aka Zastava Florida - HubNut recently picked one up.

magnette said:

Somebody still loves it

Seen at a car show a couple of years ago
The grey car by the big tree is a rarity here now, too

fintail

Prewar style living into the 60s.

Background left near the cross street, I see a Jaguar Mark I parked, and on the cross street, a whitewalled PA Cresta or Velox.

magnette said:

Edinburgh - 1959 or 60

The contrast with what was on your roads by then is quite stark although Edinburgh would be a more conservative place then than, say, London.

Should expand if you click it

ab348

stickguy said:

These, have style! Interesting that dome have push by hand only stickers. Doesn’t bode well for future owners.

They need to get accustomed to what will surely be a common way of moving them in the future. :laughing:

ab348

That R4 in Uruguay puzzles me. Looks almost like it could be a home or shop build but then there is that Mini 4S badge. I guess Renault South America wasn't big on coachwork.

tmart

ab348 said:

On the topic of car carriers, this one has an interesting load.

A 50 Ford, 54 Ford Crestline, 55 Thunderbird with optional hardtop

tmart

magnette said:

That's great - speed contrast must have been a factor though
The old girl is clearly one of Henry's but I am sure there are ways to distinguish which year of production I don't know although I think they ditched Brass radiators in the teens

The approaching white car is a Meteor Rideau and I think 1956

The Meteor is a 55 based on the parking lights. A 57 on the left, probably a Meter too.

ab348

Edinburgh motoring looks very utilitarian. Lots of Morris Minors, various Ford Populars, Anglias and later Consuls, a Triumph Herald, Austin Cambridge and too many others that are beyond my range.

tmart

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kyfdx

tmart said:

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imidazol97

tmart said:

ab348 said:

On the topic of car carriers, this one has an interesting load.

A 50 Ford, 54 Ford Crestline, 55 Thunderbird with optional hardtop

Does the 54 Crestline have one of those see-thru roofs on the front half like the Sun Valley Mercury did? I hope I'm not mixing up the model names... LOL.

fintail

I think the Ford glasstop name was "Skyliner". I had a thing for those cars when I was a kid in the 80s, and 50s stuff was in strong revival.

magnette

tmart said:

magnette said:

That's great - speed contrast must have been a factor though
The old girl is clearly one of Henry's but I am sure there are ways to distinguish which year of production I don't know although I think they ditched Brass radiators in the teens

The approaching white car is a Meteor Rideau and I think 1956

The Meteor is a 55 based on the parking lights. A 57 on the left, probably a Meter too.

fair enough - I'm rather out of touch with Meteors

magnette

fintail said:

Prewar style living into the 60s.

Background left near the cross street, I see a Jaguar Mark I parked, and on the cross street, a whitewalled PA Cresta or Velox.

magnette said:

Edinburgh - 1959 or 60

The contrast with what was on your roads by then is quite stark although Edinburgh would be a more conservative place then than, say, London.

Should expand if you click it




Although those cars look ancient in fact virtually all are post war - even the Daimler in the foreground is a DB20 Regency registered in 1953.

I think the only certain prewar car is the little one with the wheel on the back in the far lane behind a parked van which is a prewar type Standard Flying Eight which was made pre and just post war - I think the later ones had a covered spare wheel.

magnette

fintail said:

Red car is a Yugo Sana, aka Zastava Florida - HubNut recently picked one up.



Yes - I remember when the Sana was shown at London - in the early eighties I suppose - I even sat in one - dark brown it was. Within a year or two effectively Yugoslavia was gone so the spares situation must have been dire although as with all Zastavas the oily bits were pretty much all Fiat.

magnette

ab348 said:

Edinburgh motoring looks very utilitarian. Lots of Morris Minors, various Ford Populars, Anglias and later Consuls, a Triumph Herald, Austin Cambridge and too many others that are beyond my range.

Yes - the Herald is pretty much the newest car there - introduced in 1959. If you look closely at that Herald it has a white square plate on the grille although obscured by the mans head
It is an "L" plate - someone is using it to learn to drive

magnette

ab348 said:

That R4 in Uruguay puzzles me. Looks almost like it could be a home or shop build but then there is that Mini 4S badge. I guess Renault South America wasn't big on coachwork.

I found this earlier today.

In Uruguay, in the 70's and 80's - maybe longer - they couldn't import cars without a large degree of local content so even from neighbouring Argentina a Renault 4 would be too expensive to make sense.

Instead they imported the basic mechanical bits and made a fibreglass body based on Argentinian IKA- Renault 4 panels to make what was known as the Renault 4 Mini.

They did the same with the Chevette / Isuzu Bellet / T Car that GM were making in Argentina so there is a fibreglass version of that and even the old Vauxhall Viva HC estate was rebodied by a firm called Grummet - I think we had something about that a couple of years ago.

I think also this happened in Chile with Minis from UK - possibly in Uruguay too - as there was definitely a totally fibreglass Mini sold there somewhere.

This also included Opel cars and odd Vauxhall versions not made in Europe but sadly I can't post pictures again now so that will have to wait for another day

It comes up if you search for Autos Uruguayos - even a fibreglass Vauxhall Chevette with the droop snout nose and a sort of earlier generation Opel Kadett 2-door coupe all fibreglass

magnette

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ab348

magnette said:

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tmart

fintail said:

I think the Ford glasstop name was "Skyliner". I had a thing for those cars when I was a kid in the 80s, and 50s stuff was in strong revival.

It was. To me the 56 was the best looking. Then the term was used for the hardtop retractable from 57 thru 59.

bhill2

magnette said:

bhill2 said:

magnette said:

I see a 62 Ford Galaxie followed by a 60 Impala and 3 behind the XK150 a 63 Falcon

FWIW if one is interested in minutiae, I think the 60 Chevy is a Bel-Air. I don't see a contrasting color stripe on the rear fender. Also, I don't think they made an Impala two-door sedan.

I am interested in the minutiae and am not too well versed on some of the differences between individual models like this - thanks for telling me as I did think the side trim was for an Impala and didn't know about the colour stripe within the rear wing decoration - as for them not making an Impala 2 door sedan that had also escaped me so now I know!

My knowledge of such things can be traced to two phenomena; 1) I have been a car nut since I was about four, and 2) I am considerably age-enhanced. I remember that when Chevrolet introduced the Impala as a full line they were very eager to position it as distinctly upscale rather than just a higher trim level. For instance, it had a different steering wheel and trick door handles. At that time a two-door sedan was considered a downmarket configuration. If you wanted two doors on your Impala you bought the two-door hardtop. Just one of the disturbingly numerous pieces of trivia I carry around.

andys120

ab348

A rare "glass cooker", in this case a '62 Olds Starfire convertible with an aftermarket plexiglass bubble top. A very bad idea if you lived anywhere that had sunshine in the summer. I imagine wrestling it on and off wasn't easy.

sda

ab348 said:

A rare "glass cooker", in this case a '62 Olds Starfire convertible with an aftermarket plexiglass bubble top. A very bad idea if you lived anywhere that had sunshine in the summer. I imagine wrestling it on and off wasn't easy.

I’ve never seen one of those. I agree, it had to get hot in there without any tint to block the sun. AC would be a must. Defeats the purpose of the convertible.

magnette

ab348 said:

A rare "glass cooker", in this case a '62 Olds Starfire convertible with an aftermarket plexiglass bubble top. A very bad idea if you lived anywhere that had sunshine in the summer. I imagine wrestling it on and off wasn't easy.

Most years when I was growing up in Wales the main problem with a plexiglass bubble would have been getting the bird mess off it rather than an excess of sun - though things have changed a bit since then,,,,

andys120

Apparently some of the companies that made cockpit canopies for fighter planes hit on the idea of making then for cars. Damned if I ever saw a car so equipped.

ab348

Well, notoriously, the 1961 Lincoln Presidential limo had a half-bubble top that was not being used on the fateful day in 1963.

ab348

What would guess is mid-'70s traffic in Vancouver, BC:

omarman

I know it has some odd angles but I like the Corona wagon. I can't be sure but that example seems to be the never popular Corona Country Squire edition. Never saw one before.