Mystery car pix

magnette

Completely off the point, but in the light of the various Mk's of Jaguars (VIII/IX etc) ever wonder how the Romans could build bridges cities and tunnels without any coherent maths ( try multiplying VIII by IX to get LXXII ).

andys120

I can make out five cars in this shot from Paul Newman's Winning (1969).>

imidazol97

1956 Plymouth
1952 Buick
!963 Oldsmobile
1955 Chevy
1961 Chev

1963 Chev on the right front

fintail

Could the nearest car at right front be a Corvair coupe?

fintail

Funny that the Cd numbers really show how some things have not advanced with time.

A lowline Euro model MB W124 200 series with 15" wheels had a .28 Cd - but you'd never guess by looking at the car. This is a car from 1985. Even a big tank of a W126 introduced in late 1979 was in the low 30s IIRC.



More aerodynamic than a "modern" car....crazy

bumpy

It's not that surprising. The W126 was designed in the aftermath of the '73 oil crisis, and the W124 in the aftermath of '79. Reducing the drag coefficient is the easiest way to pick up "free" mpg increases. As we all know, oil got cheap again and car designers quit paying attention to drag during the design phase. When Chevy put the Volt concept car in a wind tunnel, the drag was so awful they had to throw the body away and start from scratch. :sick:

texases

I'm wondering about all those old Cd #s that get tossed around. I remember when the Subaru XT came out in about '85, claimed lowest Cd out there at 0.29...who knows...

andys120

Could the nearest car at right front be a Corvair coupe?

Yes it could IMO. That was my first thought but it's really impossible to say. I did not have that car in mind when I said I could ID five of 'em.

andys120

Except for the "1961 Chev" (see previous post) you've got the same five I did.

andys120

kyfdx

Skinny tires really help the cd number on the old cars.. Also, not having all that body work stretched over big fat tires, as well...

andre1969

'72 Buick...I'm inclined to guess it's a Centurion? I always liked that generation of Buick. Probably way too big for most peoples' taste, but I always liked the clean, smooth, uncluttered style.

andys120

Close but it's a '72 LeSabre Custom. I've always liked the big Buick 'verts of that era too even though I'm not that crazy about land yachts.

fintail

I think the tires must do a lot, and IIRC cars without AC have better airflow too.

A Tatra T77 from 1935 I think has the lowest of just about any (semi) normal car, something like .22. The Rumpler Tropfenwagen was also at something like .28 - in 1921! I wonder what the Chrysler Airflow or Lincoln Zephyr had.

andys120

at this one, it's not exactly what you think>

kyfdx

'69 Porsche 912?

lemmer

912?

mrpepsi

Had to dig for this one.

stever

Ford Mighty F-350 TONKA concept pickup.

Figures I'd get this one since pre-WWII and concept cars are frowned upon in here. (I didn't know this discussion's guidelines when I moved over to host in here either )

Welcome to the forum!

andys120

It's not a 912, although it certainly looks like one.

mrpepsi

Nice job!
Here is the full pic I took at the auto show years back.

mrpepsi

Pretty silly that concept cars are frowned upon. Seems to me that posting and guessing is all about fun. Its not like we're getting points for guessing correctly.

magnette

Well, I wouldn't have picked up on it if you hadn't said it's different, but the plain sills without a chrome strip would seem to indicate a 901 - but I think the very first 911 - 2.0 looked like this too, so I am really just guessing.

magnette

There's no points?

stever

You're thinking of CSX. :shades:

andys120

Yep the plain sills indicate that this is one of the 13 original 1963 Porsche 901 prototypes. It survives today in private hands.

andys120

hudsonthedog

Bugatti Type 101...just post-war, probably 1949-ish.

andys120

Yep it's a Bug Type 101 but a later one, 1953 MY (body by Guillore). According to sportscarmarket.com seven or eight were built between '51 and '56.

ateixeira

Owner probably has to visit that store often.

bumpy

The idea behind excluding concept cars is to give people a sporting chance to guess. Concepts more than a few years old are so obscure that no one would know what most of them are, which takes the fun out of it.

ateixeira

Well, the pic had "Tonka" clear as day. I knew what it was, since I happened to see it in person. It wasn't too long ago, either.

Cut him a bit of slack. Or maybe we should create a seperate thread for that?

fintail

Ah, the Maserati 228, I will guess ca. 1989. Was it backing up or just broken down in that position? :P

lemmer

Good old Biturbo. The pinnacle of Italian engineering.

andys120

bumpy

Lincoln Mark VIII (eight). The styling wasn't bad, just a bit tardy. The rest of it was the usual '90s domestic senescence. :sick:

bumpy

andys120

Chevy Nova/Toyota Corolla late 1980s.

andys120

Yep, Mark 8.

kyfdx

Really? Something about that quarter window made me think it was a Euro version of the Escort/323 iteration..

But, then again... I really suck at this game...

ateixeira

It was actually running. Funny thing was it actually sounded real nice. Nice little bark to the exhaust, lots of character.

bumpy

You're half right.

hudsonthedog

Toyota Sprinter...1990-ish.

andre1969

Makes me think of an '89-92 or so Geo Prizm. I remember back in college when I worked at Dennys, there was this "Creature of the Night" who frequented the place. She had one, and one night locked her keys in it.

bumpy

More or less. That 5-door liftback (the 5-door hatchback had a different body) was generally sold as a regular Corolla in Europe, the Geo Prizm here, and the Sprinter Cielo in Japan. The one in the picture is the Australian Corolla Seca.

andys120

Ignore the backwards headlights, Brooklands screens and other racing modifications and you should be able to figure out which make/model this is>

fintail

MGTD?

fintail

Those things always looked like a deluxe 80s Sentra to me. I used to live not far from an Italian and British garage (every electrical issue known to man) and would see a few hanging around, along with one of those 80s Quattroportes that somehow seemed cool at one time.

andys120

Yep, it's a TD. For some reason few are seen with wires but the more common and lighter steel disc wheels would make more sense on a racer (less unsprung weight).

andys120