Mystery car pix

fintail

I think it's more of a passage of time thing. I remember the first few months of 2005 when the CLS was the talk of the town. Seems like a long time ago now.

The design team made a better choice in who to mimic this time, rather than going after the Accord again...I will give them credit for that :P

ateixeira

Now we agree.

stephen987

I think the white car is a Mk.2 Renault Fregate--though it could be a Simca as fintail notes. Behind that is some sort of panel van--perhaps a Ford, then a 2CV. Behind the 2CV I think I see another Dauphine.

nortsr1

I don't know where that picture was taken....but those automobiles better have damn good bumpers because they sure do PARK CLOSE to EACH OTHER!!!! :sick:

andys120

PARK CLOSE to EACH OTHER!!!!

Well things may have been different back when cars actually had
bumpers but I don't think they're parked any closer than from what
I recall from living in Manhattan back in the 60s and 70s.
I can tell you my cars collected a few parking dings, they did
not have good bumpers.

The car parked behind the black Dauphine is not a Renault
of any sort but a little known derivative of another French make.

Here's a better picture of one>



Any takers?

kyfdx

Pretty good guess!

MSRP for the '94 Acura Vigor GS was $29,000, including destination..

Lease program was dirt cheap, though... that was my first lease..

stephen987

It's wearing the double chevron of Citroen, but I don't recognize the model.

lokki

stephen987

Subaru SVX

andys120

The funky French coupe is a ca. 1959 Umap 2CV. I couldn't find an English language website with any info on it but I gather it was based on the
Citroen 2CV and had a 75 hp Citroen AZ motor (pretty good power for something
light).

andys120

stephen987

'64 Ford Falcon Sprint?

michaellno

Lease program was dirt cheap, though... that was my first lease..

Funny the things you remember ... and I remember that my co-worker was paying something like $400/mo for a 60 month lease. :surprise:

He got the metallic violet color with black leather interior ... was the nicest car in the parking lot at work after the owners ('87 or '88 560 SEL w/ personalized plates "TH BEAZT"). Most everybody else drove small cars - I remember a Nissan Sentra, a Ford Escort, Honda Accord LXi, Honda Prelude among others.

urnews

That is one sharp looking car. The emblem on the front fender would seem to indicate that it was equipped with a V8, probably a 260 cubic inch or possibly a 289. Sweet package.

andys120

Yep, it's a '64 Falcon Sprint equipped , as Urnews says, with a (289) V8.
Early Mustangs were essentially rebodied Falcons.

andys120

fintail

Looks like Doc Brown's 1948 Packard Custom 8 Victoria

But maybe with period WA plates?

lokki

Subaru SVT is right, of course....

I was reminded that they actually existed when one parked next to me at a local restaurant last weekend. It wasn't restored (who would?) - it was a daily driver.

I'd forgotten how wierd those side windows are though.... What were they thinking? :confuse:

andre1969

I'd forgotten how wierd those side windows are though.... What were they thinking?

I could sort of understand the rear windows...making them like that allowed for a roll-down rear window. But I have no idea why they did it with the front. Maybe it made for better, more buffet-free ventilation?

texases

stickguy

new Honda, Crosstour? something like tht.

AKA the closest thing to the Accord wagon they should be building. with a little pilot mixed in.

Hondas baby X6?

THe side profile, especially the rear 3/4, look very Hyundai/kia ish. Those rear fenders are a dead ringer for something they make. Maybe a tiburon?

boomchek

This Accord looks like an oversized sneaker.

It also reminds me of the old AMC Eagle wagons a bit. And it does have Hyundaish lines especially in the back. I don't get why they just couldn't release a TSX wagon here.

texases

Yep, 2010 "Crosstour". After posting that I found out that it's been getting dumped on over at Honda's 'Facebook' page for its extreme ugliness factor. Deservedly so, IMHO. Looks like the Acura TL stylists got loose at Honda. Ugh.

fintail

Wow, a Honda Venza with wheels cribbed from a couple-year-old Euro Ford design.

I see Hyundai Equus in the greenhouse, too...and not in a good way (if there is such a thing)

An X6 copy for Honda now that Acura has a hideous variant....possibly the most useless vehicle segment, the gigantic 4-seater. Someone is smoking some mighty powerful crack over at Honda/Acura.

ateixeira

It looks like a swollen, pregnant Accord.

Venza is soooo much nicer styled, IMHO.

I think the full name is actually Honda Accord Crosstour.

They probably want those sales to boost Accord numbers.

michaellno

My eyes! My eyes! :surprise:

Lessee, what do we have here ...

1) Ford in the grille (though not as bad as the Acura schnoz's)
2) Hyundai in the rear quarter panel
3) BMW X6 (or 5 series GT) profile

Are they planning on selling this in the US?

If I had to choose between this and the Venza, I'd choose the Venza.

ateixeira

If I had to choose between the Crosstour and the X6, I'd ... shoot myself.

texases

"Are they planning on selling this in the US?"

ONLY in the US, unfortunately! Europe gets the very nice TSX-based 'Accord Tourer' wagon:

ateixeira

That thing looks 1000 times better, simply no comparison.

I'd actually consider a test drive...if they added SH-AWD.

stickguy

that blue wagon is exactly what I would be interested in (if I was actually in the market now!).

That crosstour wouldn't evne make it to my long list. What a beast.

actually, Honda is losing me totally (and I currently have 2 H and 1 A model in the house!) New Accord is too big, civic has lousy seats (and no utility versin), and the odyssey with all the tranny issues I wouldn't touch again.

Then Acura brought in the ugly stick..

michaellno

Oh, man,

I love wagons. Don't know exactly why, but something about the lines appeal to me - even though I've never owned one.

I guess it started with the '67 VW Squareback my folks owned.

I also liked the mid 80's Dodge Colt wagon.

That Acura is very nice looking, IMO - even with the Acura nose tacked onto it. Looks like there is quite a bit of cargo room .. the Crosstour looks more like a 5 door hatch than a wagon.

andys120

stephen987

That appears to be an Olds 442 convertible. '71?

imidazol97

Does the blue stripe have meaning as to a special package or an optional engine?

stephen987

I doubt it's a W30--baby blue seems a bit pallid for that kind of performance. But I'm pretty sure it says 442 on the front fender. Without that, I would've assumed it was an ordinary Cutlass Supreme droptop. Of course, it could be a fake, like all those alleged "M" series BMWs.

imidazol97

The hood scoops?

I tried to find mention of a package beyond 442, but haven't.

Andre1969?

stephen987

There was a W-30 performance package for the 442, with cold air intake. I thought it disappeared after the 1970 model year, but I found some advertisements purporting to depict a W-30 even as late as 1972.

andys120

It's a 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass 4-4-2 with the W-30 package. I don't think the blue stripe has anything to do with it being a W-30.

IIRC the only visible indicators were small chrome letters spelling out "W-30", that could be then under the "442" on the side or they could've been on the sides of the hood scoops.

andys120

fintail

I'll guess that's a Standard "Ensign" from around 1960, sans wiper blades. I don't know about that plate, something from the commie days of the eastern bloc I think. Poland maybe....W = Warsaw.

And in the background is a facelift MB W210 with AMG or knockoff wheels that look like early monoblocs - older than the car.

andys120

As a matter of fact that car was bought by it's current owner in Belgrade, Serbia. It's an export model (LHD) 1959 Standard Ensign.

boomchek

Random history fact:

Close but not Poland. Our plates during the commie days were white letters on black background and had 3 letters and 3 numbers. The first two of the three letters were an abbreviation of the city the car was registered in.

To use a US example, if it would be a car from Chicago for example, the plate would start with CH, and then it would have a random letter and a number assigned, so CHA 305

Nowadays the plates have are white, with a EU symobol, but I believe the city abbreviations still remain.

fintail

Cool, I learned something :shades:

Just like with postwar-today German plates, the letters in the suffix are an easy giveway for the registration city.

andys120

stephen987

Mercury Turnpike Cruiser, ca. 1959?

andys120

It's 1957 Mercury Turnpike Cruiser.

urnews

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/338226/page/1/fpart/al- l/vc/1 is a great site for photos of old cars. U R NEWS

andys120

Thanks Urnews. That's a great site and we've already used some of those photos.
Here's one we haven't used yet>

imidazol97

From the right...
1950 Studebaker (Champion?)

1957 Chevrolet BelAire

1961 Chev

1957 Ford Custom 300 4 Dr.

In the middle...
1961 Chev
1958 Buick

wgrafer

Imidazol -- My monitor is not that great, but the 3rd from right white one looks more like a '61 (or even a '62?)Oldsmobile than a Chevy to me as there is no 'eyebrow' above the headlights. And I really wish I could see that black one on the extreme left better.