2011 2500 diesel stalling
farmer4701 Member Posts: 3
edited October 2016 in Ram
My 2011 stalled once the first month I got it and has continued to do it. no error codes shown per dodge. yesterday it did a constant stall for 5 miles. this was in stop and go traffic and did it each time the engine got near 2000 rpm and then it ran okay all the way home a 40 mile trip. this problem is not a constant and did not do it for the past 6 months. i have replaced the cam and crank position sensor with no help of the stalling problem. any suggestions of what i can do outside of getting another truck.
It's important to mention that techs that have learned how to test like this did so without being paid for their time on the job chasing these kinds of problems. Nobody ever wanted to pay and quite often once the solution was in hand we quite often were told things like "If you were really as good as you think you are you would have known that what was wrong." They would also say things like "We can't pay you to learn how to work on someone's car". Anyway you look at it, instead of being rewarded for the effort that work like this demands we were punished for having tried, and that's why it's hard to find techs that can and will attack a problem like this. The common perception is to wait until it breaks completely and then it would be much easier to solve.
What is the minimum time that transpired between events, and what has been the maximum?
As far as the dealer not employing techs that can and will troubleshoot a random failure like this, its more a matter of there is little to no incentive for a tech to work hard enough to learn how. When you take all of the insults and damning stories through the years and try to see what they really accomplished they discouraged a lot of the people who could have been great techs capable of solving problems like your truck has efficiently from even entering the trade. Meanwhile the people who did become techs and eventually took on these kinds of tasks found themselves usually unpaid for the time that had to be invested and insulted and demeaned for having tried.
Do you remember all of the parts stores using code pullers and claiming that was diagnostics?
Do you remember things like CarMD where they called shops rip-offs for charging for diagnostics while they sold a cheap code puller and claimed to be able to allow you the consumer to do everything that someone like myself was really going to do ?
Do you ever remember anyone stepping up and pointing out what their noise was doing to the people that you need right now to be there for you?
Beyond the time that would have to be invested to get a failure event (or several of them) to occur, in order to allow it to be analyzed and the fault proven, your truck's stalling problem would be easy for me to figure out. The question always comes back to just how much time would need to be invested and who is going to pay for it. Every time we as employee's and even then for some of us eventually as a business owner invested that time free to a customer, we in fact were the one's paying and we really couldn't afford to do that. Not getting paid for the most difficult work drove most if us out of the bays and convinced just about everyone else to not bother trying to learn. People often say you get what you pay for, and in fact many of the people that techs like myself helped out over the years got way more than they paid for which explains why your statement below is as much dealer managements fault as it is the consumers, and self appointed consumer experts. You don't have to try every shop in town, you need an electronics/diagnostics specialist and the good news is that there are still some around in spite of what they went through to be tooled, trained and capable of handling random problems like this one. You can use the member directory in the iATN to search out one near you at. www.iATN.net