Scion tC Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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How long you have to wait largely depends on how picky you are. There should be some around (if not at the dealer, than at the port). If you have to have, say, a purple 5 speed with side bags, it might take longer than if you want an automatic, with or without SAB, in a choice of 4 colors.
Talk to your dealer. Than can check the inventory, and tell you what they can get when. WOrst thing, you might have to rent o nyour time, or maybe you can sweet talk them into a s/t loaner.
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You'll notice I got all the extras i.e. ground effects kit, spoiler, fog lights,18" wheels, etc. Its just the hottest little car around & everyone asks "Wow, what's that?" With the extras it hardly even looks like a tC.
I had to wait about 30 days to get it once ordered. It was painful but the dealership said it was the best looking tC they'd sold yet. Even with all the extras including side airbags and the iPod (which is awesome) I am happy with the price which exactly what they said it would be at the Scion website. Its those taxes & licensing that getcha. Gotta put in a plug for Scott Toyota in Scottsdale - they were a pleasure to work with. We didn't notice one of the wheels was gouged at delivery until we washed it the next day. They ordered us a new one no questions asked. The guy detailing it for delivery was so stoked about the car - it was adorable - he's like "Man, is this YOUR car?" He said where do you want the hotchkis sticker on the car and I'm like "Nah, I don't need the sticker" he's like "Oh man, you gotta put it on there so people know what's inside" so we did - ha.
Enjoy that car-it is very nice looking and you have a rig that not everybody has, obviously its still unique. It certainly blows away all of the ugly looking hopped-up Civics and Neons and all of the other modified rigs you see in those magazines and it's straight from the factory. Pretty cool, huh?
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Actually, this afternoon I just put an order for an Azure tc, too!
However, when asked to tint the windows for me, my dealer said I need to have a doctor to say that I have some visual problems to get the windows tinted, otherwise it would be illegal. Does anyone know whether it is true or not? (I am in Michigan)
One thing the TC is missing is some sort of door guard or at least raised "line" along the body that would add to it a bit and help protect car dings. Yes in many states the very dark tinting is illegal.
I've heard the 18" wheels makes for a rough ride so keep us posted on that. As I understand it...STANDARD is the port to plug in ANY music player, but the upgrade is the iPOD controls within the stereo so you can do playlists, etc right?
I had a general question..MOST autos the options come from the manufacturer..or more of them..with Scion they are all dealer installed except the airbags...so...how does that affect the warranty of those items...anyone know? Just curious.
Thanks to everyone for posting about your new 06's...keep it coming!
With my Sportage 4x4 I went online and ordered some off the net. It was black in color, about 3/4" wide and I put it on the small SUV. It goes well because the door handles are black on my Pepper Red Sportage.
Here's where I'm leading with this: on a car like a tC you would probably not want to bother the side with door moulding. You will have the same door swinging issues with inconsiderate people and shopping cart issues, etc. So it's up to you but everyone is sort of of the opinion that door moulding doesn't work on a coupe like the Scion tC, because it looks so hokey. Do keep us informed what you decide on this, though, OK?
I sure do like that Azure Pearl. I saw a tC at a dealership in Jefferson City, MO, that was that color and it looked fantastic on this little coupe. Now I'm thinking tC again, along with xA RS 2.0 and new world order Kia Sportage for the future. The tC just looks so awesome!
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Hope this helps.
Ken
I'm really hoping it handles well in the snow for when the time comes!
Thanks again Ken!
Ken
Ken
Now the problem - I want to upgrade to the iPod stereo. (Long story, but the Scion Help Desk originally told me the iPod "mounts in the cup holder" and "the steering wheel controls are not valid for the iPod mini" - so I went with the stock unit. After I ordered, they corrected themselves saying the mini will work and is stored in the glove box, so I now think the iPod is the way to go.)
Salesman tells me this is a big deal. He wants me to pay $600+ for the whole unit instead of the $260 differential.
I don't see why this is a big deal. I thought the business model for Scion was to have the dealers do the customization? Can any dealers clarify this?
Yesterday, I drove off the lot in a brand new '06 Azure Pearl TC; minimal extras - I much prefer the basic lines and equipment package on the car, but I did upgrade to the iPod/MP3/WMA radio.
The buying experience was flat-out fantastic. The no-haggle pricing takes a lot of the pressure off and lets the salespeople be a bit more honest than usual (being a former salesman myself) about the pluses and minuses of the car. My guy - John in Chattanooga from Capital Scion - was fantastic. He took me through the tC and was very honest about his compeditors.
The no-haggle price may seem a bit iffy; in my case, I think it only hurt me on my trade-in. The no-haggle thing is across the board - they tell you the price first, then tell you what you're getting for it. Check out the website - you'll see the philosophy there, too. They start by telling you the price.. then you dig into the car. Everything is up front - either pay it or don't, your choice.
Interestingly, according to my dealer, the prices quoted on the website are the same whether you get the work done before you buy the car or after you drive it off the lot. If I want foglamps or the XM Radio upgrade, I just take the car in, pay the price plus tax, and it's done. Period.
(To the poster talking about the radio - the dealership is sorta screwin' ya there. Or so it feels to me.)
Even in the finance process, everything was straightforward and well-explained. I'd shop from these guys again in a heartbeat.
As for the car itself... wow. It drives exceptionally well and is as quiet inside as a high-end lexus. It /wants/ to do 80, and it'll happily cruise along faster than that. The transmission (I've a stick) feels very solid and the car is exceedingly responsive and stable. The whole thing just feels.. polished. People take notice, too - perhaps it's the Azure Pearl, but more people look at this car when it goes by...
Surprisingly, there's a lot of room front and back. At 6'3", I can fit in the front seat.. and climb in the back seat behind my set up driver's seat and still have plenty enough leg room. Trunk storage is the only trade-off, but the rear seats fold to level with the rear cargo deck to give more room.
Suspension-wise, the ride is similar to much heavier and more expensive cars. Having driven a Jaguar XJ12 for quite a while, despite the weight differences, I can honestly say the ride over rough pavement is comparable.
Honestly - I'm as enthused about this car now as I was driving it off the lot. Vive Scion!
I would have flat out REFUSED to drive the red auto 2005 and asked to speak to the sales manager at that time or just went and found the sales manager.
Sure am glad you wrote the letter at least...but am sorry it made you end up buying another vehicle. I wish you would have tried a few other dealers..if there are any around that is.
experience we had we bought a Civic EX sport instead, our first non-Toyota in 20
years and I've come to the conclusion that Toyota customer Service is dead.
Here's a copy of the Email I sent to Riverside and to Scion.com. Their reaction
was basically thanks we'll look into it, nothing from either for 2 weeks
To Sales Manager or whom it may concern,
My wife and I came onto your lot on 11th St. this morning to look at a new Scion
TC for my wife. The salesperson who came to help us proceeded to ignore my wife even though she spoke to him first until I told him that he needed to talk to her as it was to be her car and her decision. He asked the reasonable question of when we were thinking of buying, she replied that we would be buying within the next week but would most likely have to order because she wants the Azure pearl color with several body accessories and a 5 speed stick. After that the entire experience went downhill, he kept pushing her toward the red 2005 even after being told several times she didn't like the
color, did not want an automatic, and wanted a 2006. He finally went in to get
the keys so she could test drive the 2006 manual Black Cherry Pearl but he came
back with the keys to the 2005 red auto. She was upset but went ahead and drove
it to feel out the ride and how the AC worked etc. During the test drive (I was
in the back seat) he kept looking at his watch, tried to dissuade her from
getting on the highway and after about 5 minutes just started guiding her back
to the dealership. All during this drive he kept pressuring about this car, he
seemed incredulous to the point of insult that she would want a stick and stated
at least twice that color wasn't an important criteria. We both found his
attitude to be derogatory and rude. All in all it was one of the worst
experiences we have had at a dealer and we will be buying a Scion but it won't
be from Riverside and you can thank (BLANK)for that.
So mad after 2 weeks bought Civic Instead.
Now, here's the trouble - as I learned today at the Walnut Creek, CA Toyota/Scion:
This is not true; the prices you see on the website are not guaranteed, and the dealers can - and will - charge ABOVE the "the price you see posted".
Today I went in to buy a Scion and began asking for the accessories I wanted. They were charging HORRIBLY above the website prices. Here's one example:
LED Light Enhancements: website - $250, Walnut Creek - $299
(for those doing the math at home - approx 20% markup above MSRP on the accessory)
I sat there furious as the dealer/salesman explained to us that "Pure Pricing" does NOT mean all dealers charge the same price! Instead, you negotiate on the accessories/add-ons that make the car! So what you have to do is go to all of the various dealer-websites and look to ENSURE they will sell you your car at the website price!
I'm infuriated, because there's nothing "pure price" about this - I'm now treating the purchase as a typical car purchase, and now haggling with a few dealers to knock the prices down on those accessories. I found two that will charge MSRP as the max, and found that many of the other dealers in my area (SF Bay Area) just charge above MSRP and rely on the false claim of "pure pricing" to mislead consumers into thinking the price they get at ANY single dealer is the same at any OTHER dealer!
I just can't wait to hear about the first class action false advertising claim on this one!!!
On another note, I've been trying to buy a Scion TC for weeks.
The first dealer lied and told me he had every color in stock (I wanted to see the colors on the car before making up my mind), and when I got there, he had only silver (Magnussen Toyota);
The second dealer lied and told me that black cherry is a discontinued color, so I should come on down NOW and buy the flint-black one he was going to sell me, but it was ready to head out the door so I had to make it in FAST (Burlingame Toyota);
and the third was Walnut Creek, where I showed up, looked at the car, was prepared to take it, and learned of this dealer-by-dealer markup after I was halfway through the financing application.
So my advice to folks is this: CHECK THE DEALER WEBSITE BEFORE YOU GO TO THE DEALER. Because not all dealers charge the same. And if you don't believe me, compare the following four bay area dealers:
Magnussen Scion (Palo Alto, CA) (charges msrp)
Walnut Creek Scion (Walnut Creek, CA) (charges above msrp on many options)
Fairfax Scion (Fairfax, CA) (charges above msrp)
Also, many dealers CANNOT give you the options you want - the Walnut Creek guy had no idea what the "ipod compatible" feature was, and gave me the price of $395 (the website cites $260 as the MSRP on this feature).
To say I feel misled is about half of the story - I feel downright lied to by the Scion hype.
I learned today that the "pure pricing" does NOT include accessories when the dealer I visited wanted to charge me almost $200 above the MSRP on the accessories I wanted for the car. The accessories differ from dealer to dealer.
So yes, there is haggle room indeed.
They lie about the inventory in stock, and I've been lied to about the colors' availability (at the Burlingame, California Scion dealer I was told black cherry is discontinued for 2006. I explained that I'd seen the website, and he flat-out told me I was wrong and needed to come down and just buy the other color he had on-site). Either that, or they're utterly indifferent and downright rude.
I suspect there's such low-profit here that only the lowest level of care is paid to you. Which is incredible; I'm making a $20k purchase!
Toyota/Scion should cut their marketing-spending and give more dealer-incentives. I've had such frustration myself trying to buy a TC these past few weeks that I'm about to pick out another car from a dealer who can at least fake wanting to do business with me.
Yep...it's certainly NOT as they would have you believe huh? Here is the page from the main site with the "disclaimers" that say basically dealers can set whatever prices they want to BUT the customer still can't haggle...
Hope this helps.
Ken
As for my buying experience...FANTASTIC! Dick Poe Toyota/Scion in El Paso gave me wonderful service, quick and friendly. The salesperson and I kept in touch through e-mails since March. Visited another Scion dealer who wanted $500 down to order, but this one asked for no money down. No pressure either. Even the finance part was surprising. I spent no more than 30 minutes in finance and they gave me several options for financing and I decided which one to take. I was more than pleased with the results. And, no pressure again.
Today begins Day 2 with my tc. Incidently, I looked at the Honda Civic, Honda Accord, CRV, Sonata, Toyota Corolla & Camry and some of the Nissan cars. For the money and all it comes with (ABS, sunroof, comfort, etc.) this is the one I liked best. By the way, I hadn't even heard of the tc and wasn't even interested in it, but my son kept telling me that he wanted one someday and so we test drove it one Saturday... (just for the fun of it). And now you know the rest of the story.
Well its still better than buyin a similar popular car the Ford Mustang. That coupe is selling for at least $4k over MSRP in my area. Same availability No Mustang coupes in the lot in Sterling. The salesman was jus salivating over me. At Acura, they tried to upsell me a TL then made me wait while another manager showed up with the Shark smile from Finding Nemo that scared me all the way to Scion and Carmax.
That post who bought a Civic instead is bound to find a nice dealer because the Civic is old news. I bet that dealer even had a lot of Civics in stock.
My car won't be ready for 2 weeks at which time I will find out if fangs come out of the dealer. Thanks to all your advice because I will walk out if he tries any shenanigans.
Up till now they have been so nice. The rep even let me do figure-8s and hard breaking on my test. My search is over...that car is fast yet solid for under 20k. They did ask for a refundable $500 deposit. To my understanding the accessory price is the internet price.
i will post again when my tC arrives
Had to stand at the Entrance for 10 minutes before someone even bothered to ask me whether I need any help, and eventually I had to go and get help on my own. When someone did get the time to speak to me, he was pretty rude and cold. I wonder how they can expect someone to spend $ 20K when they treat someone the way they did.
To top things off, there was not a single car he had to show me. I am surprised how someone can expect me to spend $ 20K without even having a look or test drive the car.
I had heard that Customer Service and Toyota Dealers don't go hand in hand, and I guess I got to experience it for myself today.
M dropping my plans of buying any Toyota Product because I guess I deserve to be treated better when I am going to spend $ 20 K.
On the way back, stopped at a Volvo Dealer to check out the S 40. Inspite of the dealership being on the verge of closing (the salesman was literally locking the doors), he showed me around the car. Guess Toyota's loss is Volvo's Gain
They are super nice looking cars and it should hold up fine mechanically and hold it's value as well. Read up on the few complaints on the car if you haven't yet. They seem petty yet really bug some tC owners, you be the judge of your own tC ownership experience, obviously, and do chime back in on how your tC and Scion are treating you, OK?
Enjoy it!
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Just can't wait till 6pm tomorrow to pick it up. Guess I was lucky to get one delivered in just 2 days.
Will keep you posted on how the car treats me.
Unfortunately, I got in a wreck last week. Thank you Toyota for the great safety features that left everyone shaken but unhurt. The car, though, was totaled. (This was in part because even though the repair costs were not huge, the 75% of fmv threshold before State Farm would total the car, was pretty easy to reach.)
I was so happy with my first Scion that I right away ordered a new one. The salesman at McGeorge was, again, great. I ordered it with the same specs as the first one, but got a 2006 and side airbags (once bitten...). The Richmond dealership was able to get this one from a Virginia Beach dealership, the car came a day later, and just yesterday I picked it up, only nine days after the accident that totaled the 2005. I made an appointment Friday afternoon to pick the car up yesterday at 10:30. The salesman was ready for me when I got there, had all the paperwork filled out and ready to go, and the car was washed and gassed up. After test-driving and signing, I drove out of the dealership at 11:20.
After driving a Taurus-ified Volvo rental for a week, I couldn't have been happier to get back behind the wheel of my tc. Plus, the 2006 radio is 100% better than the old one and I noticed the annoying radio cover now opens and shuts smoothly. I also really like the steering wheel mounted radio controls. I won't belabor this point, but the Volvo I rented sells for, literally, almost double what I paid for the tc. While the Volvo's seats were very comfortable, I honestly cannot tell why anyone would spend $15,000 to $18,000 for leather seats.
Anyway, to each his own. My experience, though, with Scion, my tc, and McGeorge Toyota-Scion in Richmond has been outstanding. I'd recommed all of the above to anyone.
1. He is charging $1200 for leather package. Is this a good priice?
2. Financing Question. I have a pre approved Capital One check. He says I have to sign up a backup loan agreement is this normal?
3. Because the car I want is not in stock, he has to order one and he says I have to put up a deposit of $500 for this. Is this normal?
4. He says he can order the exact car I want and get it in 2-4 wks. Is he correct?
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Well worth it, in my opinion.
I sat for 4 hours being ripped off by a Subaru stealer having the brakes replaced. They won't give you a loaner. Wait on a gubment cheese line to get service. BMW dealer waits on me like hand and foot.