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I just have to find a job that requires driving at highway speeds every day then I'll be happier with the gas mileage.
Kip
It makes a huge difference, to be able to stay in the 55-65mph window. I usually get around 23.5/24 back and forth to work each day, which is about 70% highway driving, but includes a bunch of hills, and is usually driven at over 65mph (but don't tell the wife!). This past weekend's trip down 288/I-95 was a pleasant surprise.
Which is just what I was getting based on the mileage readings. I do mostly local traffic, so though I wanted to get more mpg, It is understandable, since driving in the freeway gets me 25 to 30 MPG, but 70+% local driving brings down mileage to 20 to 21MPG.
Wow, my 2003 EX got 26.5 at 80 MPH, and about 30 at 65 MPH. I'm surprised that the 2007 doesn't do better. However, I should note that my MPG improved at around 1500-3000 miles.
OK.... that would explain it. Pretty good MPG for those speeds! Weren't you using Cruise Control?
yeah, i try to whenever i can but the majority of I-5 between sacramento and los angeles is two-lane only and on the days that we were traveling, you either get "stuck" in the slow lane going 55 because of the big rigs or you go with the flow of traffic in the passing lane. even at 80, there were plenty of impatient people behind me :mad: so i'd speed up until i cleared a group of slower vehicles on the right so i could slip back into the "slow" lane and let them pass. something i found out, though...while the CR-V feels perfectly adequate around town, there's certainly not enough ooomph for quick highway passing.
So for now I'll say that 29.5 is my alltime high. Still think I can get 30, If I slow it to 65.
I think the EPA highway test should be a flat road with cruise set at 68. At least you'd know what was what.
Also I disagree with Snoop Dog about passing on the highway. Maybe he drives an automatic?
Harv
Oh really!?!
Where do you think the fuel pick up is now? Does it magically suck the gas from the top of the tank? How does it deal with lowering fuel levels as you use the fuel?
Don't worry, I will answer that...
The fuel is picked up from the lowest point in the tank anyway. So, following your logic the sediment would get picked up anyway since it is being sucked in from the bottom of the tank.
The more logical explanation is that the fuel pump is cooled by the fuel. If you run out of fuel, the pump will overheat and sieze up.
Are you saying it makes no difference if the fuel pickup is sitting in a concentration of trash? :confuse:
Kip
I think he's saying that the "trash" is there whether the tank is near full or near empty. In any case, I think we've gone far enough with this sideline. Mileage reports, anyone?
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
M
What I am saying is that your logic of filling up at 1/4 tank because of the alleged junk in the tank is flawed. The junk is at the bottom of the tank whether you have full tank, or running low on fuel.
The only reason it does not make it into the fuel system is because as you pointed out "there is a filtration sock" (fuel pick up screen).
Major source of fuel injector cloggin is the decomposition of fuel. Gasoline by itself will separate out in volatiles and less volatiles. The less volatiles will eventually gel up and gunk up the injectors. Especially if the vehicle is drven infrequently, or is stored for long periods of time.
Sta-bil and other fuel anti-aging additives allow you to prolong the shelf life of gasoline up to 6 months, maybe a year. Then nothing will help, short of injector cleaning/replacement or carbeurator re-build.
I actually doubt that there are thousands of fuel injectors replaced annualy. Matybe with really old, early 80's fuel injection vehicles. I have an 88 Prelude that is running on original injector. Most common injector failure is the failure of the electric actuator, not the injector itself.
Seems as if there is some sort of computer logic that throws more fuel into the combustion chamber when intake air is colder than 50F. The intake temps are about 6F higher than bumper mounted temp read out in the gauge cluster (2005 EX)
The 2007 CR-V owner's manual on page 69 says "Avoid driving with an extremely low fuel level. Running out of fuel could cause the engine to misfire, damaging the catalytic converter." I don't see anything else in there relating to cooling the pump or avoiding trash in the tank.
Let's we can take this thread over to Fuel Systems: Maintenance & Repair so we can get back on topic as Tidester requested.
Who's checked their mileage recently?
At least 1 Gen 2 CR-V, and 4 Elements, on Honda SUV site. The CR-V owner who pulled it off says it will cost $260 in parts.
Found the site - thanks.
Found the site - thanks.
If your Accord is powered by the 2.4 liter I4, chances are the tranny is the same as the rest of the K24 powered family. And this mod would apply as well.
What the heck is going on????
I've read on here about people complaining that they have to fill up before they reach 300 miles. Geez...I'm lucky if I make it to 200! My last four fill-ups were at 170, 178, 201, and 175 miles.
I will literally jump up and down for joy if I EVER make it to 300 miles before I have to fill up!
What the heck is going on????
I've read on here about people complaining that they have to fill up before they reach 300 miles. Geez...I'm lucky if I make it to 200! My last four fill-ups were at 170, 178, 201, and 175 miles.
I will literally jump up and down for joy if I EVER make it to 300 miles before I have to fill up!
How heavy is your right foot?
Automatics give terrible fuel economy in city driving. Manual is more efficient for City. Imagine if you are on a stationary bike, cruising along, then someone clamps on the brakes, while you still have to pedal... This is how automatic works when you are stopped. The engine is turning against the resistance that brakes provide.
In manual, when you stop, you de-clutch, and put her in neutral, engine is free wheeling, no resistance...
We could always put the automatics in Neutral as we do the sticks!
Kip
"What Gives" is that you are getting terrible mileage. There are many post dealing with getting better mileage on these forums, as well as on the Fit and Pilot forums. Start at the front and read all the post and your questions will be addressed many times and in many ways.
Kip
The EPA is also known to not have very accurate tests. Look in Consumer Reports. They have recently started testing manual and automatic versions of some vehicles. The manuals do much better in the city.
FWIW I just filled up my Accord Stick Shift (which should be similiar to the CRV in the city where aerodynamics are not a factor) and got 23.5 mpg in all city driving. This is with almost all trips of 2 miles or less in fairly cool weather (frost many mornings).
Are you saying the EPA test are accurate with one type of transmission and not the other? :confuse:
They may not get real world with either, but to say the test are biased toward one type of transmission is stretching a bit.
What makes you think Consumers Report is conducting TOP MILEAGE TEST with the very best drivers?
My wife gets near what you do and I get more than that with the heavier CR-V auto with 4wd. About 50% of her driving is 2-3+/- mile 1 way trips around here with some trips of 12 miles to a 10 day a month job with a zillion traffic lights and heavy traffic.
I can get 30+/- on the road when observing the speed limits. You should get more with a lighter more slippery accord.
These car rags will sometimes admit that they don't exactly drive for great mileage. And sometimes they won't.
Kip
My Accord is an 07 - I get much better mileage than 23.5, that was just my worst case in all city driving. My average since I bought the car is about 31 mpg, and my best so far is 39. Still not broken in all the way yet (about 2,500 miles)
My point was not put down the mpg of the CRV - just to state that if somebody is getting 16 or so they should be doing better.
CR has the only consistant tests in the industry. They are the best out there. They are real world and repeatable.
Well if they are programmed to do better in the test, why wouldn't they do better on the road?
You are averaging 31 mpg and have gotten 39 on the road, in an Accord. WOW! You are getting better than Civic and Fit owners are reporting.
How do you do that?
Kip
Consumer Reports got the automatic Accord at 38 mpg on the highway (that was before they tweaked the engine in 06). 40+ mpg can be done.
Yes my numbers are what some Civic and Fit drivers get, but there are also some that get much better than I do (mid 40's highway)
As far as the tests not mirroring the real world. The tests are not done at read world speeds. The automatics can be optimized to lock at just the right speeds for the test, yet this does not help them at real world highway speeds.
Not trying to hijack the thread.
You must be outside of US. There is no Civic AWD as of yet available for sale in the US.
Then Edmunds made a mistake, or Honda is hiding that new AWD Civic from us. I would gladly get an AWD Civic instead of CR-V in a heart beat. Especially if the AWD Civic is a hatchback.
I was writing about the CR-V. Then when you called me on it, it still didn't register. :sick:
Now I'm back on the right page, I think!
Thanks,
Kip
I was writing about the CR-V. Then when you called me on it, it still didn't register.
Now I'm back on the right page, I think!
Thanks,
Kip
Makes more sense now, lol
Also a big factor - ski season is over and the roofbox is off.
M
David
David
It is not working hard at all. It is working at about 60% total engine output at 80 mph in 5th (manual). And about 50% output at 65 mph. The % output is based on ScanGaugeII readout.
Current tank shows 27.1 avg on the computer - this tank is 100% city driving, 34 miles round trip to/from work (A/C off majority of the time, weather still nice). I'm light on the gas, but keep up with traffic. I'm trying to see just what this vehicle is capable of in town. I'm in the Dallas area, so hills are not an issue.
So far I've very pleased with the vehicle. Will be taking an extended road trip with it in July, will be interesting to see if I can squeeze 30mpg out of it on the highway @ 70mph.
All City driving, several short trips Sat and Sun with 3 people in the vehicle. No A/C the majority of the time, most driving with just myself in the vehicle.
I've averaged just over 25mpg on 3 fill ups now, one fill up averaged 23.8 mpg. Majority of the driving has been in town, most of the time with A/C off.
I'll post again when the heat hits and A/C has to be run all the time.
Is this an 07? If not, What year model and transmission type?
Excellent milesge!
Kip
City being suburb of Dallas.
Very few hills to deal with, but plenty of stop lights.
Most miles are commute to/from work during rush hour.