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I've been counting down the days for the Challenger for a long time. I wish that we could get more information on it.
I AGREE AGAIN WITH MOPAR RICK , PUT EM ON . I JUST SEEM TO THINK THAT YOUR EITHER ANTI DODGE PRO FORD OR CHEVY AND PUTTING OUT FALSE SLANDER ON A TRUE ,YEAH , THAAATS RIGHT, TRUE MUSCLE CAR THAT WILL BE THEE HEAD TURNER OF THIS DECADE. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU JUST PUT OUT HERE THAT SHOULD SIMPLY STAY WITH YOU. MUSTANG CAMARO OK NICE GOOD LOOKING CARS BUT YOU SHOULD DO SOME THINKING ABOUT THIS. OH BY THE WAY I'M NOT SHOUTING , I NEED TO LEARN MY KEY BOARD BETTER, ILL WORK ON IT. DON'T FORGET , YOU'D BE EATIN' SUSHI RIGHT NOW IF IT WASN'T FOR DODGE SO BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY, OR I'LL GIVE YOU A HISTORY LESSON, YOU CAN GIVE ME A KEYBOARD LESSON. PEACE OUT BRO! THANK YOU , HEY MOPAR RICK, SHES COMING MAN , REAL SOON, LATER
HXC Performance
Granted I am NOT a MOPAR Man, but I am very Happy to see ALL these Muscle Car's return, it is really great that these true "Factory Race Car's" are hitting the street with a vengeance! But to think that this "Hemi Cuda" will ever come close to a "Vette", regardless if a "ZO6" or just a Plain Jane (IF there ever was such a thing:] LS2 or LS3 "Corvette", he will never see that happen! Nice Dream though!
Anyone of these "Corvette's" have withstood the test of time, are still around after 55 years, and are ALL (53 to 08) still Head Turners, and with just Bolt On after market performance parts, you can get a 400HP or 436HP "Vette" up to atleast 850HP, and I have seen some with upwards of 1000+HP! The "ZO6" is an animal of a different color, with it's 505HP stock factory configuration, I'm ALMOST afraid to think what this car is capable of in the right hands! So what he is saying just don't hold water!
I do like the new "Hemi Cuda", but please let's stay on THIS Planet, you will have a true Muscle Car but a Corvette it will NEVER be, or BEAT in looks or performance! I restored an '87 "Vette" and everywhere I went with that car, people would be getting whiplash from trying to get a better look when it was passing by, or parked!
My C6, Z51 "Vette" is up near 450HP, and I have had little trouble with anything I've comeup against! My plans are to get it up to 600HP, and stop there, which should not be too difficult with what's available now! But I DO wish him a lot of Luck with his new "Hemi Cuda", and if he proves me wrong, so be it! It will just be like the days of old, with "my car is faster then your car"! Those are the days I would really enjoy seeing all over again! Good Luck "js23rfc7", maybe we'll meet someday on a Track to show our stuff, I can only hope!!! :shades: :shades: :shades:
BTW: I have this text on my Driver's side rear view mirror: "Objects in this Mirror are Losing", and this always seems to be the case!
Yeah, but its what you do when you turn your head that counts. Some ('70s) make you turn your head and vomit. Some ('90s) make you turn your head and shrug your shoulders at seeing yet another vette. Some ('50s and '60s) actually grab my attention in a good way.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Did you see the after thought for the windshield washer? They placed the nozzle's halfway down the hood, and those plastic nozzle’s look awful for the lines of the car, if you want to call those lines, and left them Black, not even trying to hide them with the color of the car!!! I am willing to bet that the windshield washer's could wash the windshields of 1, possibly 2 vehicle's behind it, on a Highway!!! So you have no argument with me over that duel, the entire GTO looks more like a Pontiac G6, with a big motor and is a total after thought, bummer, PEROID!!!! :sick: :lemon:
Best Regards,
Shipo
But there is such a thing as personal opinion. They are a great performance bargain, no doubt. And I'd love to have a Z06 for that reason. But other than the 50s and 60s vettes, I don't find them attractive. On strictly appearance, 350Zs grab my attention far more.
by the way, 30k-35k cars a year is not that small of a number, especially for a flagship. In comparison, Subaru only sent about two-thirds that number here the first year of the WRX. I'm not sure of 350z numbers.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
C6Ron
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Its the nature of the beast. Where there is an american muscle car, there is a feud. ;b
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
HXC Performance
I have been following this car since I first saw the prototype at the car show 2 - 3 years ago.
It was/is to be available in the 2008 model year.
The first Red one with a Memi is mine. I am on a waiting list at 2 dealeships near me but they are clueless as to what the status of this car is.
Here is what worries me:
I just got my October issue of Road&Track titled "Top 20 cars for 2008" and the Challenger is NOT mentioned anywhere.
Obviously it would be near the top of that list so perhaps they know something we do not.
The Dodge website has a date of february,2008 but that is merely marketing fluff and I don't beliebve it for a second.
I am wondering if the fact that Cerberus took ownership of about 80% of Chrysler Group has put a wrinkle in production plans for this car.
I also have not heard a word. I have been on 5 different lists and nobody is saying a word. I have a deposit down at one of the dealerships to place an order. The last that I heard was that it is still a go and that was in the middle of July. The Cerberus thing might have an influence, but at this point, I would think that they have a lot of money invested in tooling for body panels that it would be foolish to cancel the car especially with the high demand that it has generated, but I wouldn't be surprised. Another variable in the equation is that Chrysler just hired two top executives from Toyota to take over running the operations. How that will influence the production is unknown. On a positive note, nobody heard a word about the Avenger until the last minute when it was in production so it just might be the game plan that Dodge follows. Just my take on the whole thing.
Rick
That Challenger is a SHOW CAR, used to see what car buyers think about it. Only after the positive reviews, did the Challenger program get approved. That's when all the final decisions and engineering get done.
I've been looking for info on the new Challenger but I don't find anything at dodge.ca
I ultimately want to find out how to get on a waiting list for one!
thanks
Gregor
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"Dodge Challenger No. 1 will be auctioned at the 37th annual Barret-Jackson Collector Car Auction in Scottsdale, Ariz. on Jan. 12-20, 2008......"
"Dodge Challenger No. 2....... through a private auction for Dodge dealers that begins on Sept. 26."
"In addition to the No.1 and No.2 Challengers, Chrysler will auction off a third Dodge Challenger through eBay.com early next year."
Got deep pockets? ;-)
And does anyone have any pics of what the car looks like? We've all seen the concept car but what's the actual car like?
Gregor
There are numerous waiting lists out there. You have to go to your dealership. I've been on 5 lists since last year. Two dealerships actually are taking deposits to put orders in. You have to check in your area. The pictures are all over the net and the production version is supposed to be very close to the concept car.
Rick
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
The technology today is fantastic, I am amazed at what they are doing with engines, transmissions, clutches, and so on!!! I look back at the iron block 427 Ford, it was twice the physical size but couldn't get half the HP they can develop with the new engines! Just the clutch in my Vette only takes 7 lbs of foot pressure to depress and I can hold that down all day long!!! My '68 Ram Air 4-4-2 had a 4200 lb pressure plate and it would take all I could do to hold that thing down in traffic! :sick:
What you get today in technology makes ALL our Muscle Cars of old look sick in comparison!!! Again this is only MY opinion, but do the math and see what things are like today in relation to our time ("Factory Muscle Car" days), in the 60's & 70's! I have also heard that this new Challenger will come in some of the retro colors, WHEN it actually does come out (somewhere around April '08)! :shades:
I would keep my order in IF I were you, just to see if the new Challenger meets your expectations! You can always cancel it, if you don't like what you see or feel!! I'm not a MOPAR Man, but I really like the looks of this car and if it goes as well as they claim you may just keep it Again only MY opinion!
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071129/FREE/71129004/1528/n- ewsletter01
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
eliminator219
This was Planet Dodge in Humble, Texas about 2:45PM today. Has anyone else ran across this fiasco?
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or how about $20k discount, and buy a cherry used GTO-naro,
if you can handle its wild styling.?
-mike
eliminator219
You'd probably need to contact Dodge Motorsports directly, most dealers will not get involved in motorsports related cars unfortunately.
-mike
Les
Had a friend stop in a different dealership. Clear Lake Dodge is taking orders at $5000 over sticker. That's more like it! Sunroofs are an option.
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that is a question only you can answer.
Some are bowtie people. Some are mopar people.
Some prefer the look of the upcoming camaro. Some prefer the Challenger.
Ain't choices grand?
IF you are looking for personal opinions (which is all you can receive with the question you asked), I've never been a Camaro guy. Unfortunately, I grew up during the time when Camaros were relegated to guys with slicked hair, 2 too many buttons undone on their shirt, and gold chains. On the other hand, the Challenger is the 1 vehicle from the musclecar era I could ever see myself owning.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I'm wondering if the SRT8s that are equipped with the Tremec 6spd would be subject to the gas-guzzler tax? Or is it just the auto, assuming this is similar to the Monaro/GTO? I hope unlike that car, the Tremec isn't a $700 option.
I think the V6 will help with sales, and am wondering what the pricing will be on the base Hemi V8. I'm still on the fence on getting on, particularly since petrol prices are currently in the $3+ range in my neck of the woods. Luckily I have a couple of years to think about this purchase (who knows what petrol prices will be at that time).
I hope these dealers know what they're doing by putting such high ADM on these cars. I think buyers need to get over their "gotta have it now" feeling and make the dealers hold the line on the pricing. In the end the buyers have the power - I'm disappointed in the gouging to say the least. Not really feeling the Barrett-Jackson auction either, this just makes matters worse in terms of pricing for us common folk. :sick: I've also seen a couple of pre-listings in eBay, people asking $20K minimum over the price they pay for the car. So that could mean some sucker will pay upwards of $65K for this. As with the ridiculous ADM on the Shelbys (particularly the GT500), I say for that cash buy a used Z06. I was really hoping the dealers would hold the line on this one...
But in the end the main thing is that the car is going to be reality and should bring some spark to Mother MoPar!!
Does anybody know if the first (new model-not 1960's) Shelby GT500's that they were getting an extra $30,000 are valued more than the next ones off the assembly line. Is it worth paying this surcharge just to get the first ones off the line?