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Personally, I don't find Camcords expensive. IMO, they're a bargain for what you get. The Sonata I'll admit, is a steal!
Is that supposed to be humorous, or a logic test?
There are no reviews of the 2006 Accord.
There are no reviews of the 2006 Accord.
I wasn't aware the 2006 Accord has different seats from the 2003-2005 models. :surprise:
Btw, that wasn't suppose to be humorous, or a logic test.
I once went to check out the Elantra GT (a car I loved) and the Hyundai dealership was pathetic. I however have experienced some very good Hyundai dealers also. Agian IMO, depends on individual dealerships.
How? :confuse:
TO quote more sources, CD, MT et al picked the Accord over all other midsize cars in their comparisons, right from the time the 03 Accord debuted.
The same is true of the Accord. This part is particularly funny to me because this is the one thing my co-worker complains about his Accord is that the seat is soooo uncomfortable. In spite of you saying thatthe reviews don't mention an uncomfortable seat and the Hyundai reviews do.
There is no right or wrong answer here. Its just what makes your [non-permissible content removed] feel best I guess.
For more on this subject, please visit our Smart Shopper board. We're talking about the cars here - let's focus on them.
Agreed. Everyone has different preferences, and everyone has different body shapes.
I happen to share Edmunds.com's opinion that the Sonata V6 is a better car (not just better value) than the Accord LX, at the same price point MSRP-wise (although the Sonata V6 is actually less costly when rebates are considered). Note that CD and MT have not done a comparo like Edmunds.com did, in the midsized sedan class--comparing like-priced cars. That makes all the difference I think, and creates different results than when a top-line Accord that costs $5000 MSRP more than cars like the Sonata and Fusion is tested.
I don't think the Sonata is a better car than the Accord. Don't care that Edmunds picks it, or that other rags pick the Accord over and over as the best. I know Honda delivers a refined product that commands a higher price than the others, and makes a boatload of money in doing so. Something Ford, GM or even Hyundai envy. Hyundai can't go on too long being the low cost guy on the block without something in the economic equation giving. Unless the South Korean government continues their subsidy programs.
Yea - different strokes for different folks.
Our previous Honda Accord (89 LxI Coupe) went through 2 of them, and our new Hyundai Sonata GLSV6 also has a very similar door and hinges. Why can't they make them out of steel?? This is a part that gets alot of use and should be up to the task, how much can really be saved here? OK, I'm done venting, LOL
When a group of Japan-based Toyota board members visited U.S. headquarters earlier this month, employees didn't assemble their latest models for them to see. Rather, they created a car show of what they viewed as the toughest competition, including the Hyundai Azera, Honda Civic and Dodge Charger.
"There's this global paranoia," says Michael Robinet, a CSM vice president. Toyota executives are especially worried about the South Koreans — which have the Hyundai and Kia brands in the USA — because of their fast growth.
The full article can be read here
The article is about Toyota soon exceeding GM as the world's largest automaker. It's an interesting read.
can afford a CamCord. I currently own two cars,
a Honda CRV, and a Sonata. The car I traded in on the
CRV was (gasp) a Honda Accord LX V6. Accords and
Toyotas aren't Lexus or Acura. The reason I got the
Sonata was that I got more features for less money,
period. If someone tried to sell you a Pepsi for 100
bucks or a Coke for a buck, I guess you would buy the Pepsi, huh?
Actually, one of the key factors was I wanted the goodies (leather, roof, etc.) but also wanted a manual tranny. That left only the Fusion and Accord, and the content (XM built in, power seat recline, turning radius, etc.) favored the Accord. Doesn't hurt that I got a large discount too.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Edmunds compared strictly based on price, comparing a 4 cyl Camcords with 6 cyl Sonata. In my book this is a complete no-no, and only someone who is on a tight budget would look at a comparison like that. Quote any magazine that has done a comparison of the 4 cyl Accord to a 4 cyl Sonata, or a 6 cyl Accord to a 6 cyl Sonata, where the Sonata has won over the Accord. None that I know of. Where ever cars with similar engines/equipmwent levels were tested, the Accord has always won.
Mags like CD/MT/RT etc always compare cars with similar engine configurations and also take care to ensure that the price differences are not very big.
Coming back to the pricing, you mention 5k MSRP difference between an Accord and a Sonata (which is not true, obviously you don't figure in rebates in an MSRP comparison). If you are comparing real world prices, that's different. Similarly the Accord/Fusion MSRP, there is no way that an Accord is 5k MSRP over a similarly equipped Fusion.
Accord EXV6 with leather:MSRP 27,300
Fusion SEL (similarly equipped):MSRP 26,050
Hyundai Sonata LX: $23,495(again, as closely as I could equip them, could't find one with a power passenger seat, but I am sure there must be some options available on the Sonata that may not be available on an Accord)
Clearly, the Hyundia has a big price advantage, but not the Fusion
A Ford dealer in my area is advertising Ford Fusion SEL V6's for $22,499! loaded SEL V6's for $23,888! Not just 1, up to 4 of each to choose from. Walk into a Honda dealership and offer them $24K for an Accord V6 EX Sunrrof, leather ect.. and they will laugh you right out of the showroom...
~alpha
For $1K more you could get that EXV6 AT, which is a hell of a of better vehicle than a Fusion.
Really. Comparing a Ford to a Honda?
Because there are some people who develope a cult like attachement to a particular model or type of car. They come to believe that their car is the greatest thing since sliced bread and cant understand why others don't believe the same as they do. Add to that any car thats less expensive it is even worse as then you can't afford such a superior car as they drive.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
According to edmunds its more like $2k more.
Really. Comparing a Ford to a Honda?
Thank you for confirming my post above.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
People around here just don't buy Hyundais. They still have the cheap image going on. And who wants that hanging on them?
When I buy a car I don't go to edmunds to buy it. The dealers around here will sell an EXV6 AT for $25K.
And anyway, there is a price difference between the Accord and the Fusion, but it is small.
If you don't like a car, fine, but there's no need to fling around insults.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
That also compares with an average transaction price of $20,332 for the Camry and $21,120 for the Accord over the same period, the Power data show.
This probably is an early indication of the income level for those who bought 2006 Sonata.
How so? Some people who buy the Sonata may be stretching themselves more than they can actually afford. While others could afford a $75k Benz but think they can put the other $55k to better use than sinking it into a depreciatble asset.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
This is a shame if it's throughout the US market. The vehicle is a few month's old and the honeymoon should still be going strong. I thought I saw that they were running fullout at Herosillo.
I'd guess that to be the case also.
When I buy a car I don't go to edmunds to buy it. The dealers around here will sell an EXV6 AT for $25K.
Yes, here in the south, dealers are pretty willing to swing a little on pricing. I was out the door on my EX 4-cyl cloth for just under $23k. The price before financing (4.5% i think) and tax/title etc...was 21,XXX, down from $23,800.
I just bought an 06' Sonata, but not because it was cheap, I signed on the dotted line because the car is simply an excellent vehicle at a good price. I was prepared to buy the best car for our family and when the dust settled the Sonata won me over. I spent 6 weeks testing Accord, Camry, Altima, Jetta, Mazda6 and Fusion. After reading the various sites and publications I also reluctanlty looked into teh Sonata, and I'm very glad I did. Please don't insult those of us that aren't cheap, but also don't need to impress others w/ our "status ride", LOL
Spoken like a true sheep. Do the research then make an informed decision base on facts, not unfounded useless comments.
The Sonata reliability is as good as the Accord it not better. Maybe you are basing your comment on five year old data.
This is a silly post, comparing a Ford to a Honda
true because the Fusion has more class and style than Accord can ever hope to....
Another follow the leader comment. Ford Reliability has been improving every year, do the research.
IMHO most cars today are very reliable. It's not as big of a difference as it once was.
Please provide us some data on which your statement is based, or a link.
"true because the Fusion has more class and style than Accord can ever hope to...."
Pity the consumer is not taking to that 'Style' what with rebates galore on the Fusion
Yes, it is a sad day when my Accord or Joe Schmo's Camry is a status ride! I'll admit to you that it is DEFINITELY not. I think that title is reserved for three-pointed stars, blue and white propellers, and prancing horses.