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Car and Driver review.
They hit the nail on the head that this is just a G35 Hatchback (not that that is bad though).
Which we have also said right here on this board.
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Notice he says the price will "begin" there. We should know if he got it right soon enough.
24 mpg doesn't seem bad to me. Not at all, in fact. And, yes, I think I would get 24 with it. Maybe 23 at times. That's still better than I used to get with my 280hp Lincoln and not far off the 25mpg I used to get with my 350z. And 6.3 secs to 60mph doesn't seem too shabby.
Edmunds also has started a discussion about the article
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Interior looks really nice.
This car is not really practical at all. Very tight back seat and smallish cargo area.
For the same $35K-40K, you could get a Buick Enclave or GMC Acadia and get much more room and near same fuel economy.
However, the EX35 is really nice looking.
Style will sell it.
Because of pricing and looks, I bet there will some cross shopping between the EX and the Enclave even though they are not in the same size class.
They are targeting singles, young families and ‘empty nesters’ - that’s right.
EX extremely fit to the families, which have to share one auto. He loves CUVs she loves sedans. It’s very hard to convince her to drive CUV, if entire life she use to drive cars, but EX will be acceptable for both. “ 92% is car and 8% is truck “- that’s right. G with the Hatch - that’s right too.
They are expecting to sale about 30,000 cars - that’s right. On the end of 2008 everything will be OK: consumers will be happy, dealers will earn some money and bosses will celebrate the victory, putting in their deep pockets big bonuses.
But truth is: everything could be much, much better.
More I loved Concept, more painful was to see how wisely thoughtful dimensions are gone.
As result, EX has the smallest rear leg room number than any CUV around.
Here are some numbers - Front/Rear legroom and Overall length:
EX35 44.3/28.5 182.3
BMW X3 40.2/35.8 179.9
RDX 41.8/37.7 180.7
LR2 41.9/36.4 177.1
RAV-4 41.8/38.3 181.1
Outlander 41.6/35.6 182.7
Closest will be X3: If you move EX front seat on the position of 40.2" (like X3), you will get rear legroom - 32.6". It is 3.2" less than BMW X3.
It’s unbelievable, but EX has 4.9" rear legroom less than Nissan’s own downscale Rogue.
Who cut off 2" from those sacred, already in production 112.2" wheelbase, he just cut off thousands of potential buyers. Infiniti could sale not just 30,000 EX to the people who don’t care about rear seat, but much more to ones who does. For example, ‘empty nesters’ with one or two parents, people who needs smaller CUV, because of parking issue or simply, who don’t want to be ashamed, when he is picking somebody up on a back.
It’s looks like I have to wait for next gen. EX, maybe EX37 with 20% SUV, with size 185" x 72", 112,2" wheelbase, 44.3/30.5 front/rear seat legroom, 18" wheels, 235 mm tires and 6.5-7" clearance?
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Wow! That has got to be one of the most extreme comparisons. I mean, by that same reasoning, who would pick ... I dunno... a corvette over a Grand Marquis? I can get similar mileage, a bigger car, AND save $40k!
I think you know the answer here. The EX35 is only about utility when comparing to a G35. It is a sporty hatchback. Near 300 hp, RWD, and 0-60 in less than 6.5 secs, with a bit of utility thrown in ... that's what will sell it. And, no, NOBODY shopping an Enclave is getting this vehicle.
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I agree. Different vehicles, different missions.
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I think comparison to subcompact cars is not correct, because their seats can be smaller.
Lets compare to Infiniti own G35 Coupe
(Front/Rear Overall)
EX35 44.3/28.5 182.3
G35 Coupe 43.8/31.4 182.2
If you move EX35 Front seat just 0.5" forward on the position of 43.8", EX35 Rear leg room will be 30" - 1.4" less than their own Coupe!
Who can tell mileage numbers, please?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6WSQQisGSU
I don't think that can be done in an G37 coupe or Mini, so there is something funny about the measurement numbers.
Maybe the drivers seat just has a lot of rear travel and goes back to where it nearly touches the rear seat.
Some people complain when the front seats can't be pushed back far enough because car makers game the rear legroom measurements by limiting the front seat travel.
If you aren't using the back seat, why not let the front seat go all the way back to give the driver as much room as he wants?
most of the time my two kids or some stuff from walmart
how many times, have you seen an adult travel in car or something small like this in a second row? no
I have a Armada and I am planing to buy the EX35. so this is bigger(sits) than car and smaller than Armada and my wife can drive it too with 3 kids and all of us trips in Armada...
but, before i buy this CUV, i want to see it in person, i want to make sure it will not a station wagon...
can't say from picture
but it looks so far and good rivews too
Jim Matija (Chicago Tribune Oct.,28);
G. Chambers Williams III (Star-Telegram.com Oct.,21)
Cars.com Staff (Oct.,11)
Jim reviewed Journey AWD. 35K - he said (Est.). But leather seats has been switched from Journey to Luxe Elite Package. He gives some info on the packages.
cars.com - reviews - Infiniti 2008 EX35 - Owners and Experts Reviews
It says the EX will start at $32,015, including shipping. Sale date is December 21.
Of course the optional packages will make it more. Still, I am relieved.
EX RWD 31.3K
EX AWD 32.7K (Look just $1400 for ATTESA E-TS Intelligent AWD system)
EX RWD Journey 34.85 K
EX AWD Journey 36.25 K
On a positive side, Technology Package: Around View Monitor, Lane Departure Prevention System and Intelligent Cruise Control costs reasonable $1950.
Also, who will buy Luxe Elite Package for $1650 or Luxe Style Package for $1250, will enjoy not 225 mm, but 255 mm tires and 18” wheels.
Premium Package - $2150
Navigation Package - $2150
Go to nissannews.com
“With smooth powerful engine and well-appointed cabin, EX35 is a sportier, more luxurious alternative to Acura’s RDX. Like G35’s comfortable, posh interior, sporty performance and available AWD, but need more cargo utility? This Recommended pick has you covered.”
(Consumer Guide. Auto-2008)
More about rear seat:
“Headroom is ample, but legroom is just adequate for the average sized tester. Bolstered seats are supportive and comfortable. Wide swinging doors helps ease entry/exit through fairly narrow opening.” They rated rear seat – 6 points.
About cargo room:
“EX35’s wide opening hatch and fairly low height aid in loading cargo. Optional power-folding second row creates a nearly flat load floor with ease. EX35’s cabin features large glovebox and deep center console, but has shallow door pockets.” 7 points.
Value – 8 points. And Total: 74 points.
I did say: EX35 fell 3” short to Success, but what is better in the class?
Rear Seat/ Cargo Room/ Value/ Total
RDX - 5/ 8/ 5/ 61
BMW X3 – 6/ 9/ 4/ 67
LR2 – 5/ 7/ 6/ 65
EX35 – 6/ 7/ 8/ 74
Slow moving traffic cruise control, that will slow dawn and speed up car, fallowing the traffic and auto adjustable mirrors when you move in the seat.
Didn't see a middle head rest in the back seat.
Tom
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As for as launch parties, the two dealers nearest me have not let out a peep. They are Grubbs Infiniti, which covers the mid-cities between Ft Worth and Dallas, and Sewell which is located in Dallas. We have two Infiniti vehicles, one purchased from each store.
How very, very true.
They are head and shoulders above the obsolete mechanical style LSDs of yesteryear. On my '01 911/996 C4 TC will INSTANTLY brake a wheel that slips and just as instantly dethrottle the engine if both rear wheels are slipping.
Anyways, going back to the forum topic, today I've seen the ex35 for the first time. They have it in 4 bloomingdale stores around US. I live in NoVA and went to the store just to check out the car. I'm telling you much better than my expectations. It's not very small, not too big. Perfect size. Not too high, not too low like a station wagon. It still has the suv feel. Very good quality details. Can't wait to drive one. I guess I'll be paying the full msrp and buy asap it comes out.
Also anyone who bets the farm on stability control on a regular basis is an accident waiting to happen as many foolish performance car owners have found out. If the stability control is saving your butt then you need to figure out why/how you are getting to that point in the first place. A high performance driving school would be a good place to find out.
Back to the EX-35, Edmund's now has pricing available and the specifications list regular fuel, does anyone know this is true. Is regular the recommended fuel for the EX-35?
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When we bought the Q, our service advisor quoted a Nissan rep who said despite the recommendation for 91 octane, 87 octane would work fine.
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The dealership I bought my 2006 G35 from is now taking orders.
They have 50+ coming in the next two months.
Can I mention the dealer name?
i'm still waiting for infiniti to get the "build your own" up on their site.
and when exactly is it coming? originally i read november, then december, now january. i'm having doubts about that since it is only a few weeks away and you still can't build your own on their site. You can do it here on Edmunds, but I have found discrepancies between that and the manufacturer in the past, so I don't completely trust it. As it is, I built on using edmunds and came up with a $38k pricetag. Ouch! That's more than I was hoping. I don't really want everything in that $38k vehicle, but unfortunately, edmunds says I can't add any options to the base model. I'm not even sure what stepping up to a touring model adds to the vehicle. I just know I want the premium package so i can get more comfort adjustments for driving position and I would probably want the better stereo.
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Dosn't look that way from the pre production models.
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SPEED on satellite carries the same program. I am hedging my bets and will try to watch it on satellite.
?? But that's what the FX is for. This is for those who found the FX too "inflated."
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I felt it was greatly lacking in information. It was also poorly constructed. They didn't actually tell the viewer what they were driving until the end. So, for instance, when they posted the 0-60 of 6.7 secs, I had to wait until the quick talking during the gas mileage segment to figure out they were driving an AWD model. I learned nothing new, overall.
Anyway, just my constructive criticism.
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The hood on the EX is too long - that's where the big waste of space is. No need to have such a long engine compartment to house a V6 engine.
I would say, however, there can be a reason for such a thing. I have NO idea if it is true in this case, but I could see a manufacturer doing this so that they can set the engine further back in the car, thereby improving weight distribution.
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