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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6WSQQisGSU
If that's true, then it will be livable for most people, even if it is a bit tight.
If you don't need tall people to ride in back for an extended road trip, it will probably be OK.
The 2009 Murano is available if you need a bigger back seat.
Actually I am somewhat critical of the EX because I expected more cargo space. As is, the EX just barely exceeds the cargo capacity of the Lexus IS and the BMW-3 - I suppose I expected a little more "Utility" out of the new CUV.
I agree to a point. I'm not at all interested in manual transmission, and only expect "reasonable" gas mileage (by that I mean I recognize its not an economy car); however I am very intested in cargo utility beyond the typical sedan; I expected cargo utility along the lines of other small SUVs (isn't that what the "U" part of CUV stands for? I am not interested in a sports car - where can I drive a sports car around a large American city anyway!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
So, yes, you are right. For those complaining about rear seat room and utility, there are much porkier and pokier machines out there already flooding the market.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
The Murano has "Enhanced RearView Monitor" and the EX has "All Around View Monitor" It looks like the same system with the screen animation for parking, but I think the Murano does not have the side and front cameras.
I actually really like everything about the EX less the rear seats. The interior of the EX is by far the best I've seen from Infiniti, and IMHO on par with Lexus and Audi (and yes I've owned those two makes as well) I won't be sitting in the back there often, but I do carry passengers. I'm 5'11', 190lbs. I have no issue with the rear seat room once I'm actually sitting, the issue is getting in/out of the vehicle. I couldn't subject passengers to that.
We opted for the G35XS, all the room, luxury and sportiness we need. In the event Infiniti addresses the rear seat room, we'll get one.
Mike
If you are a tall driver and then you "sit behind yourself" to test the back seat and find it too small, does that even matter if there is no likely scenario where someone else as tall as you would be driving your vehicle with you ending up in the back seat?
If you really do need to carry tall people in back for more than short trips, then you should be looking at something else.
I am not saying the EX is not a nice car, if you see my original post I was pretty impressed with it, if I end up getting it, I will have been able to justify to myself why I am paying more $$ over the Nissan version
On the plus side, of the ~ 600 cars at the show Infiniti clearly has a VERY strong line-up. The interiors of the M and EX can hold their own against anything out there. :shades:
I do not understand why Infiniti chose to limit the Luxe Elite Leather Package to only two colors, and then the two worst (IMHO). Surely the Stone and Graphite Leathers are more popular than Wheat and Chestnut? What was Infiniti thinking by not offering the leather upgrade in Graphite? :confuse:
Ok, even with all the comments about the back seat and back legroom, even with all of that, I was FLOORED at the lack of space back there. I did not sit in a car in the entire car show (and I sat in most of them) that had such a small SLIVER of leg room. I sat in the front seat and had it positioned for my short self. Even at 5'4, there was NO back leg room. It was a total joke. A joke. And you cannot get out of the backseat without almost breaking your leg doing contortions to avoid the way the door is positioned. The floor model had wear and tear showing that everyone hit their leg on this spot. There is basically no room to get out of the darn car. It was ridiculous. Really ridiculous. You could seriously get injured. I'm athletic and nimble and it was a problem. Can't imagine if I took my grandparents for a ride.
I went from 80% considering the car to 0%, a confirmed no buy. What was Infiniti thinking? The GTI and WRX had more room. The car is not small, so it's almost like they intentionally had to design it that way. Ugh. What a horrendous design. Worst I saw at the entire car show and I wanted to love it or at least like it.
I personally just didn't like it the looks of it.
After going back and forth on what to do she decided on the 09 Murano. We felt like we got a little more for our money. There is going to be a very small market for this vehicle. If you want one, wait a while, I'd bet Infiniti comes up with some incentives.
Like others I was eagerly awaiting this vehicle. I was just so disappointed once I saw it in person. Not because it's a bad vehicle, (there is so much to like about it), but the utility is so very, very tiny.
What a beautiful interior. What a great engine and handling. But if only they squeezed in a little bit better usage of space into the cargo area and rear seats, I'd be all over it. Now I'm in a pickle -- thinking about the Murano or maybe waiting for the FX37. RDX has the utility (relative to EX35), but I wasn't thrilled with the interior fit and finish or the exterior styling.
January sales of the EX35 in the US were 628 vehicles. I know the advertising hasn't kicked in, but that has got to be stunningly disappointing for Nissan. The RDX missed sales expectations and their Jan '07 sales were 1,798 units -- almost triple the EX.
Oh well.
The first PARTIAL month a car is out, and before inventories have even ramped up, is hardly a way to judge a car. I would say march or april might be a good month to get a feel .... although car sales are down across the board.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I do not have a problem with the rear seat room. I only wish the cargo utility space was a little larger. As it is this Street Utility Vehicle is very small on the "Utility" part. :confuse:
Infiniti EX review @ USA Today
"•Overall: Cramped and jiggly. Not for robust people or those with robust needs. Great engine."
OK, for Healey it was pretty harsh and 14 miles per gallon test mileage...OUCH!
I also recently found out that the TPMS on the EX does not show the actual air pressure like my M35 does :mad: What's up with that :confuse:
With more weight and horsepower in the EX, I think it is rather competitive, though it isn't exceptional.
Let him have it and drive it the same way in the same conditions if you really want to make such a comparison.
As I've posted here before, autoweek got WAY above that in their tester (25.6).
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Road & Track got 12 mpg with the Acura RDX when they tested it so as they say, "Your mileage may vary."
Hmmm... Guess it depends on your POV. I got over 25 mpg average in my 350z and I've got a heavy foot (not to mention the car begged for it ). I considered that to be pretty good. The mileage in the VQ has been improved upon since then. So 25 isn't all that shocking to me. Personally, I'd expect 23-24 with my driving habits and commute. (this would be in a RWD model, by the way) Again, something I'd consider pretty good for all the power the engine puts out.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Has anyone else had this problem or can anyone propose a solution?
Personally, I'd expect 23-24 with my driving habits and commute. (this would be in a RWD model
And you could well get those numbers, but from reading the reviews at Edmund's and elsewhere from EX35 owners you would very much be in the minority. I hope you can meet your expectations.
Infiniti EX35 Prices Paid and Buying Experience
May as well get a MPG one going - but you're right, talk about the EX35 isn't dominating the forums here.
Infiniti EX35 Real World MPG
Are there owners posting their numbers somewhere? The discussions here on Edmunds have been very quiet, so much so that they haven't even opened up Prices Paid and Mileage forums. Can you let me know where I can read more?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
This car has the lowest amount of cargo capacity of all UV's and that's probably why Infiniti doesn't publish it in their official specs. It's around 49 cubic feet. I don't know what they were thinking.
When I test drove it, I asked to look at total average MPG gotten by customers (it displays in the nav). It was 10 mpg. The sales person said it was so low because of how people test drive cars but I still don't think it's acceptable. The test drive route is just driving through streets in a commercial part of town and through one residential neighborhood road. Typical city driving. I got 13 MPG on my drive alone, which is obviously better, but not that much better.
The steering wheel seems extra small. Is this my imagination?
The interior is beautiful and the navigation is terrific but it doesn't really make up for the general impracticality of the car. All they needed to do was give it 10-15 more cubic feet. Infiniti seems to have forgotten the point of a utility vehicle.
BTW, removing the battery and rebooting the phone does not help. This was a suggestion given to me by the phone store.
He thought it was a little pricey even in the luxury category. Though a mixed review, overall he liked it.
They were thinking, "we already have the FX, so this needs to be smaller." I just can't get why people are so hung up on this. There are many many other larger vehicles out there. By making this one small, Infiniti has made it stand out in the crowd. It is for those who want more than a sedan, but less than all the other CUVs out there, and value performance as part of the equation.
When I test drove it, I asked to look at total average MPG gotten by customers (it displays in the nav). It was 10 mpg.
This is not just driving miles. If you've hung out at dealerships a bit or test driven alot, you see that cars sit there idling alot, ESPECIALLY in the winter. Salesperson goes to get car. Probably starts it up, then may have to move another car or 2 to get it out, while it sits there running. Then pulls up and gets out, while its running. Says to drivers, get on in and make yourself comfortable while I run and make a copy of your license and get a dealer plate. So folks get in and start flicking all the switches, playing with the seat adjustment, etc, all the time the car is sitting there running. Hence the 10 mpg you see on the display. Don't forget, while a car is sitting idling, it is getting 0 mpg. So that drastically drives down overall mileage.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
The cargo area really has not been a big issue for me. It's usually more than enough for my needs without even having to put the seats down. I had an opportunity to use the "snow" setting last week during a snow storm. The roads had not been touched, and the car really handled well using the snow setting. I had an FX prior to this, and have not really noticed the car being drastically smaller. Overall, I've been pleased with the EX.
Cargo volume with rear seats upright 27.4 cubic feet;
Cargo volume with rear seats down 64.5 cubic feet (without moonroof)
The website also shows the following for the EX:
Cargo volume 18.6 cubic feet
The 49 c.f. you mention must be with the seats down!