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2013 and earlier-Acura MDX Lease Questions
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Three years ago, I leased a 2005 MDX Touring for 36 months, putting a bunch of money down (like $3500) and getting 15,000 miles for a payment of $452 a month, all in. It would cost me $25,000 to buy it, which I don't want to do, but the wife wants another (it's our only car).
Reading these posts, it looks like I should be negotiating a price under invoice. But since I don't want to pay anything now (and when I first leased the 2005, I paid a bunch), won't the dealer just squeeze me into a deal that pegs me at the same sort of payment? I just don't understand the money factor and residuals that people refer to on this board - is that just a way for the dealers to hide costs? I'd think with SUV sales tanking, and the $2500 incentive, I should be able to do better, but how do I work it with the dealer if they know just what I am paying from turning in the old car?
I am seriously thinking about extending my existing lease for a few more months to see what happens in the market.
I'd appreciate your thoughts and input.
Many thanks.
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Sorry to do a double take-
1. Is the 2500 available for leases or just purchases not using Acura financing? Last month the 2000 was not available for leases, so I just want to make sure I'm in the know when negotiating.
2. Did Acura really jack the MF up to .00245 from the .0018 last month, while dropping the residual by 1%?
Thanks!!
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I am currently in negotiations with an upstate NY dealer on a 2008 MDX w/ Sport & Entertainment. The lease terms I am requesting are 36 months with 10,000 miles per year. They have quoted me a 51% residual and a .00245 money factor which seem consistent with other posts. At this point they have agreed to the edmunds.com TVM of $43,163 for a cap cost. I would like to apply the $2,500 dealer cash rebate towards the cap cost to further reduce my payment. The dealer is saying that the $43,163 listed on edmunds includes the $2,500 rebate. I do not believe this to be true. Can you please confirm? Also, can you please refer me to somewhere that describes the terms of the rebate? I appreciate your assistance. Thanks!
36 mo lease 12k/yr for a 2008 MDX Base model with luggage rack pkg:
Lease Price including Luggage Rack PKG = $35,228 + 795 = $36,023
Money Factor = 0.00245 {tier one credit}
Residual = 22,500.50
Min. Drive offs = 1,517.47
PAYMENT = $519.01 + tax
Basically, this is $2,000 below invoice, which translates to a $500 profit for the dealer when you apply the $2,500 dealer incentive.
Is this a good deal? The drive offs seem a bit high.
Could use some advice here -- my 2006 MDX lease is up in February. My lease was for 36k miles and I am now at 33,500. Just checked the terms of my lease and my over-the-limit penality is $.25 per mile. So I figure I will go over by October and by Feb I may be as much as 4000 miles over the limit.
What are my options? I don't want to buy the car.... can i buy extra miles now at a lower price? what do you recommend?
thanks
In an email exchange with a dealer I was quoted a purchase price including the $3500 incentive, but was told the lease purchase price would be $1000 higher. Sounds like the dealer was indicating only $2500 of the incentive can be applied to leases.
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-Mike
If you want to put $$$ down, it looks like this package can be had for about $450/mo (plus tax) with about $2999 out-of-pocket, which covers bank fees, TTL, 1st mo., and a small cap cost reduction. But we chose not to pay down the cap cost and to roll the fees, 1st mo. and TTL into the financing; hence the higher monthly payment.
Was told the $3500 dealer cash is for non-AHF sales or leases. Through AHF (which is how we did it), you can get $2500 dealer cash. You can also eat into the dealer holdback.
Highly recommend Acura 101 West for those in Southern Cal. It was a painless process, much of which was accomplished by email and over the phone.
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I see that you mentioned the monthly payment of the MDX that you are interested in leasing, but never said anything about its selling price. Remember that the selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable. It is difficult to tell if you are getting the best possible deal on the truck that you want without knowing how much you are being charged for it. Try to negotiate a selling price that's as close to dealer invoice minus the cash incentives as possible.
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2008 Base, white/taupe
36 mos
15K/year
1850 in bank/doc/dmv fees (paid up front, includes 1st month)
includes Sport Running Boards installed
535/month (includes 6% NJ sales tax)
Just to share my experience... to help others... as I was helped by this forum. Good luck shopping.
In a world where most web forums over-sell and under-deliver, this site is an invaluable car shopping resource. I very much appreciate everyone's input (which helped me get what I think is a great deal), and in particular Car_man's input and information.
Silver/Black
Roof Rails + sport running boards
All weather mats
36 mths / 12k yr
Lease price $40250
residual $24445
MF .00245
$1120 out-the-door = first mth, + docs and title
$615 mth w/o tax, $633 w/ tax
Thanks to all of you who have posted with all the info, It enabled me to get a much better deal that I would have otherwise.
Reading the rest of the board this looks like a good enough deal, unless I missed something. Good luck everyone...
Would you mind sharing the name of the dealership?
Thanks.
I am doing a 36/12K lease put down $1400 and am paying $609 tax included. I am hoping I got a good deal but it's hard to find out. Anyone have any idea?? I live in Florida. Please respond if you have any info. as to how I did in my negotiations.
Thanks
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Do you know the current residual and money factory on an 08 MDX w/ Power Tailgate and Tech Pkg for a 36 month/10k miles lease?
Thank you!
- Total Cap Cost (incl. tax, title, license, destination fee, bank fees, and 1st mo because I drove off for $0) was $36,863.61 (actually it was $37,824.64, but the dealer picked up the $960.83 in drive-off costs that otherwise should have been due, so for these purposes I have deducted that amount from the Cap Cost).
- Residual = 54% residual.
- Money Factor = .00245 (ie, 5.8%)
- Drive-off = $0 (ie, no cap cost reduction, etc.)
- Monthly payment = $527.82 pre-tax ($571.37 after CA 8.25% tax)
- Included: wheel locks, mats, phantom footprints
When negotiating your lease on this truck, make sure to take the $3,500 dealer cash that is available on it into account. It will help you to negotiate an attractive capitalized cost.
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I'm looking to lease the '08 w/ Tech pack and PTG.
Can you elaborate on the $3,500 dealer cash please?
I was initially offered $39,000 for the car, $2,000 drive off, 3 yrs, 10,000 mile/yr, around $560+tax.
Would you mind telling me which dealer you got your car from?
And let me clarify. so you did not pay any drive-off?
Just the monthly payment? no money at all at the sign in?
tia
I just made a phone deal for an 08 mdx that includes the dealer giving me $ from an outstanding lease with Mercedes.
I have 2 months left on a Mercedes lease (750/month now) and wanted to get an 08 mdx now while the deals are good and eat those two months. The dealer gave me the following offer;
08 mdx tech/tailgate
No $ down,
39565 +760 destination=40325 $
36 month lease, 15K per year 636 + tax
48 mo lease, 15 K per year 616+ tax
mf 00245
residual 51%
plus they will cut me a check for 1500$ which is the last two months payment on the other car
Thus the cost of the car is 38045 (401$ below invoice factoring in the 2500 dealer $) factoring in the 1500 check. Ideally, I’d like to get the 1500$ to reduce the cost of the car for lower monthly payments. I have not heard of getting a check like this, any advice on the deal?
Is that 2500$ cash to the dealer the acutal number?
Thank you for all your help
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50% and .0028 respectively so even with the increased discount the price stays the same
Does this make any sense at all or was she just trying to shake me off when she felt the deal was too good?
Could you please tell me what the current residual is for a 2008 MDX Base with 12,000mi/year?
Also, do you have any idea what to expect in terms of lease prices for the 2009 models?
Thanks so much!