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Since you are new to the world of leasing, you definitely should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment. After you check them out, let me know if you have any other questions and I will be happy to answer them for you.
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Am I missing something? Also, majority of the dealers in the San Francisco area don't want to be reminded of current lease offers, they all think everyone should be paying 8.04% interest. LOL.....
Caught between 06 325i, 06 Acura TL or 07 IS250.
I am in love with the new 335i and I am thinking about leasing
it. However, I have never lease a car in my life, any tips will be much appreciated
thanks
Thank you so much for the information. I am so confused and I am convinced we will be taken advantage of somehow.
Seems the more I review the dealer's quotes I just don't trust they are really offering us a better deal than their first offer, just moving the figures around.
They first had a cash downpay of $2500(I said don't want to do that based on info I learned online here). I asked for security deposit instead. They calculated 7 security deposits to the tune of $3500 but did not adjust the MF, said they lowered the negotiated price another $500 but when I looked at the net cap cost it seems higher than the first quote.
I calculated the adjusted or net cap rate (the same figure since no downpayment)and found it to be the offer price plus tax and fees but then they showed me owing an up front initial payment of around $4800 and they showed the tax and up front fees there also. That makes me feel they are trying to charge me twice and hope I don't notice?
When I asked for a quote on 15,000 miles instead of 10K it brought the monthly payment back to basically the same amount as the first lease quote with the cash down and 10K miles.
They are the closest dealer to me with the next closest dealer being about 50 miles away. I think they don't have to deal aggressively as they have a monopoly on the market for our area.
Do you think looking at 2007 would be a better deal in the long run?
Thank you,
We are looking at leasing 06' and this site is amazing.....many leasing pros here will help you.
good luck
Thanks for any help!!!!
Invoice = 41620
Dealer Profit = 500
Cap Cost = 42120
Residual = 61%
MF = .00150
Nevada Tax per month 7.75%
36 month at 15K miles/month
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If you add the $625 acquisition fee into the cap cost the numbers are $523.42 and $563.99
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36 months
15k miles/year
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Lee
Thanks,
Lee
How is it going with leasetrader.com?
Lee
Monthly lease payments of $529.00 for 36 months based on MSRP of $42,570.00 (includes automatic transmission). (Total lease payments including acquisition fee is $19,044.00). For vehicles registered outside of NY, $3,579.00 due at signing includes first month’s payment, down payment and security deposit.
http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/3/335icoupe/Programs.htm?PanelID=4&duration=36
Now my question is that it says nothing about the actual selling price, so is that assuming the dealer sells it to me for MSRP? So if I negotiated 2500 off the MSRP then I could get it for zero cap cost reduction and still 529/month + tax? Is that reasonable? Should I shoot for better or less?
That inspection has not occurred and I have contacted leasetrader about the delay. Both seller and I are anxious to get this done.
I will let you know.
I look forward as it appears to be a really nice car.
Just wondering if this sounds like a good deal?
2007 328xi- base car
MSRP 34,995.00
Initial Cap cost: 33,995.00
Adjusted Cap cost: 32,820.00
Residual value: 64% (Lease end value 22,396.80)
Money factor: .00285
Monthly payment: 446.90 w/4,697.14
Sales tax rate 8.75% 175
Monthly milage 10,000
36 month lease
I started filling out the forms on leasetrader.com and did not complete the process as I wanted to check with someone at work who might be interested in my M3. Now I am getting e-mail messages and phone calls from leasetrader. From the phone conversation I had and all of the conversation in the background it seems like a boiler room operation. I'll look forward to hearing about your experience when the deal has been consummated.
Lee
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Thanks for the info. We haven't been back in touch and the dealer has called us back several times this week to see if we are interested and if they did something wrong on their lease offer for a 2006 330i. We have never leased and I am just worried about the "fallout" when the time comes to give the car back if we have $3500 down...will they make up stuff or be overly strict to try to keep our money?
The 335I turbo looks amazing can you give any advice on whether it would be best to consider it rather than 2006 they already have on the lot. Also it is manual transmission and I think not as many people want a stick??
Thanks
Your Money factor equates to 7.8% (2400 X .00325) interest rate, a hefty profit for any dealer. The way I see it, the dealer will make min. of $3,500 off your deal.
You should shoot for $500.00 above invoice, with money factor of no more than .00265, unless your credit is below 730.
Good luck.
I waited about 3 hours in my office. No email or phone call. OK, Now I am somewhat pissed. I call back and ask for a manager as the gentleman who normally handles this apparently wasn't able to deal with it anyways. I was put through to a voicemail. I was angry at this point and asked to be contcated immediatley and why this whole transaction was so difficult. I don't believe I used any "profane" words stronger that "damn" ( one reason is I don't cuss)but I was in a MAD/Angry Tone.
I noted thier offices close by 5pm. As I made it home ( no call yet). My cell rings and wouldn't you know it I cannot grab it in time. Its a voicemail from CS rep. I return the call. While trying to find out what is going on, I am again put on Hold for a While( seems longer when you are angry and feeling like you are swimming in a circle). anyways she comes back on, AGAIN with this "sir", I say I am not its "ma'am". She says , "what"?, I tell her,, I am NOT a "sir" and I am correcting you( in a louder than normal tone not yelling as my daughter would have run into my room). OK, Now I am again placed on HOLD!! I am boiling at this minute, now. A few minutes? No Idea I am staring at my laptop for calmness at this point. a male voice comes on says "hello"?, I say "hello?" and then HOLD again. I am not sure on any time passage since I am trying to stay calm. I hang up. Callback and of course get her voice mail. I leave a message. I think maybe a minute, I get am email with a FULL REFUND, no explanation or anything.
I think, ok maybe they locked me out of the site. Nope. However, the vehicle I was looking out is now unavailable. I emailed seller but I assume he had received an offer about the same point I was dealing with the idiots. No fault on him, hey he wants to sell his car. So I am now a back up.
I wonder if it was Fate??? Anyways, I found another site that was free for both sellers and buyers, no $150 transfer fee and you get contact information upfront. The cars are still more plentiful on the other too. Pluse the other site does NOt require buyer credit check. Which can be good or bad as a seller.
I am not letting that dissuade me. I check the site regularly maybe just in that department "balls' were dropped. I keep an openmind because some people don't know how to handle "pressure" or dissatisfaction and deal with it.
SO, I am still looking!!! :P
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Car_Man - appreciate all of your help on this site. Because of the valuable information you provide, I have been able to successfully negotiate fair deals on a 2000 323Ci and a 2004 325Ci. My lease is expiring again.....can you please provide the most current money factors and residuals for a 3 year/12k and a 3 year /15k lease for the 2007 328i coupe and 2007 335i coupe (I'm hoping to step up and get the 335i this time:) )? Thanks!
I am also very interested in the lease rates (MF and residuals) for the 07' 335i Coupe. Could you provide me with the numbers for a 15K and 12K lease? Thanks a bunch.
I am looking into leasing a 07 328 or 335 in the next few weeks, i'm new to leasing and need advice on what to ask the dealer so I don't get taken to the cleaners :confuse:
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'll post the numbers for your review and advice when I get them.
Thanks a bunch.
I am looking to lease a 2007 328xi in the next couple of weeks and have gotten quotes from a couple dealers thus far. I am interested in doing a European delivery and this is what I've been quoted:
MSRP: $50,515 (fully loaded except 18" wheels/tires)
Capitalized Cost: $47,000
Down Payment: ($8,724.34 (Includes title, tax, tags, destination, security deposit, and first two months payment)
Monthly payment: $611
Money Rate: .00335 or 8.04%
The money rate seemed kinda high to me just based on my own research online but they said it was because I was doing a European delivery. Is this a good deal or do you think I can do better if I shopped it around some more. With European delivery I get $2,595 off the North American MSRP. The invoice for a North American 328xi fully loaded is about $46,500. So the price doesn't seem too bad although I'd like to see if I can get lower. It the money factor that I'm most concerned about. Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated from anyone.
Thanks!
$500 over invoice, ($29,995, this is including dest. plus maco+$75 sat prep as only option) .00225 MF, $0 down, 15k miles/yr for 36 Mos.
Monthly payment after $500 SD including tax is $464. I think I'm getting a super sweet deal. The only negative is a $825 bank fee. I think that's fairly normal?
What do you guys think?
I have seen lease factor offers of .00255 for the 07s (335/328). Delivery should not be a factor as it is financed thru BMW anyway.
Continue to find better pricing on your 328 and consider your options. $50,515 is a HUGE MSRP for the 328...perhaps too many options? You can purchase a 335 for around $47,650 nicely equipped (e.g. Premium pkg, Sport Pkg, comfort access and w/o NAV).
I recommend not putting more than 1st mo. pymnt and license and fees down. $8,724 down only puts you out of hard earned cash and you can do much more with that if your smart. Your payment for a 335 at the price I've listed should not excede $776/mo with $1000 down and a 328 will be around $700/mo nicely equipped at an MSRP for $42,900 with the same cash down. Pymnts are higher and your residual will be higher but that can be a good thing.
Hopefully this helps you...
RJ
2007 BMW 328 Series 328Ci Coupe
24 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 68% of MSRP – .00200 Base Money Factor Rate
36 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 58% of MSRP – .00200 Base Money Factor Rate
48 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 44% of MSRP – .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
60 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 36% of MSRP – .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
2007 BMW 328 Series 328xi Coupe
24 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 70% of MSRP – .00200 Base Money Factor Rate
36 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 58% of MSRP – .00200 Base Money Factor Rate
48 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 45% of MSRP – .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
60 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 37% of MSRP – .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
2007 BMW 328 Series 328i Sedan
24 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 71% of MSRP – .00285 Base Money Factor Rate
36 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 61% of MSRP – .00285 Base Money Factor Rate
48 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 45% of MSRP – .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
60 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 37% of MSRP – .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
2007 BMW 328 Series 328xi Sedan
24 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 71% of MSRP – .00285 Base Money Factor Rate
36 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 61% of MSRP – .00285 Base Money Factor Rate
48 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 46% of MSRP – .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
60 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 37% of MSRP – .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
2007 BMW 328 Series 328i Wagon
24 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 70% of MSRP – .00285 Base Money Factor Rate
36 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 60% of MSRP – .00285 Base Money Factor Rate
48 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 42% of MSRP – .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
60 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 35% of MSRP – .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
2007 BMW 328 Series 328xi Wagon
24 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 70% of MSRP – .00285 Base Money Factor Rate
36 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 60% of MSRP – .00285 Base Money Factor Rate
48 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 43% of MSRP – .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
60 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 35% of MSRP – .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
2007 BMW 335 Series 335i Coupe
24 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 69% of MSRP – .00200 Base Money Factor Rate
36 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 58% of MSRP – .00200 Base Money Factor Rate
48 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 45% of MSRP – .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
60 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 36% of MSRP – .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
2007 BMW 335 Series 335i Sedan
24 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 71% of MSRP – .00270 Base Money Factor Rate
36 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 61% of MSRP – .00270 Base Money Factor Rate
48 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 45% of MSRP – .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
60 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 37% of MSRP – .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
I am looking to lease a new BMW. However, the car that I want with all of the options is located in another state.
My local BMW dealer searched the computer and found the car, but he wants a $1,000 deposit from me and a credit check before he can get the car. Is this normal procedure?
Are there any forms I should sign before giving the deposit?
Once they have your $1000 and the car, you don't have a lot of leverage...
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Is there a document that I will have to sign before I give the deposit that states the exact prices and terms of the lease?
You don't want any nasty surprises to arise, after they already have your $1000.
I don't see any problem putting up a good faith deposit, since they have to get the car from another dealer. But, I would want the whole deal down on paper before committing.
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