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Land Rover Range Rover Lease Questions
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I am getting the following deals both for 24 months:
RR Sport HSE - $1067 a month/15k miles with only First month payment, tag & title out of pocket.
RR Sport Supercharged - $1347.34/15k miles (same as above).
I am looking to bring down my payment to around 1k for Supercharged. Can I get it down by reducing my miles to 12k and leasing it for 36 months instead?
What should the money factor be for both 24 and 36 months?
Thanks
Land Rover Capital Group's current buy rate lease money factor for a 24 month lease of a 2008 Land Rover Range Rover Sport HSE with 15,000 miles per year is .00224. The factor for a 36 month lease of this truck is .00260. The numbers for 24 and 36 month leases of an '08 Range Rover Sport Supercharged are .00162 and .00211, respectively.
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I am getting a RR with rear entertaintment from 3 dealers for 1200/month, 12k miles, 24 month lease and total 2k out of pocket. I am a current RR customer so do get the 2k royality. Is this a good deal or can I do better. My current RR was for 1097 but it was for 10,500 miles/year.
Also how much should be added for a luxury package?
Please advise.
Thanks
RR leases used cars. I found that out today when I looked into very nice and well equipped HSE. But the money factor the dealer showed me was horrible. here are the numbers. '06 RR HSE MSRP 41,000 adjusted cap $38,500, 36mo, 12K miles per year. Residual is 28% but that is on the original 77,000 MSRP. Money factor - 0.00495. payment came before tax 711. 12% interest seems outrageous right now and i was wondering if that's a dealer scam or special interest applies when leasing a used vehicle. thanks
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1. What happens with quality now that it is owned by a 3rd world mfr.?
2. The pathetic gas mileage the truck gets on premium gas
It is absolutely positively the best vehicle I've ever owned with the exception of the gas mileage and the ineffective, cumbersome navigation system.
You mentioned that gas will be $5 next year. Here in Big Bear Lake, Ca.... (mountains of southern california) Premium gas is already over $5/gallon since June 6, 2008
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Don't know if will get any responses, last post was in Aug. Hopefully will start the discussion up again. Carman you seem very knowledgeable on the subject.
I am looking into leasing a 2008 Range Rover HSE, with no options msrp $78,450. My deal to do a lease for 24 months was as follows:
MSRP-$78,450
Selling Price-$61,000
Res-40% ($31,380)
mf-.00365
-Around $6,081.98 COD (give or take a couple of dollars Depending on plates, Tax Juresdiction)
$1,265.70/Month for 24 Months
-Deal Good thorugh Monday (11-8-08)
probably going to do it. Just wanted to check to see if this is a good deal considering the horrible residual values and money lease factors going on right now.
Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
I am not exactly sure how leasing works in NY – but I can provide you with the following...
MSRP-$78,450
Invoice: $72,159
There is $12,000 dealer cash / and there should also be a $5000 lease rebate (applied as cap-reduction) or if you are going through LRCG a $5750 lease rebate. A net selling price of $61,000 is a very respectable deal, it means the dealer is grossing approx $500 if they are including floor mats, even if they charge you for the mats the selling price is a good deal.
LRCG tier “0” should have a .00321 (tier 1 = .00350 more commonly seen as tier 0 is a bit harder to obtain in with today’s lending standards)
Money factor / 40% Res,15k per year.
Roughly, I estimate an effective payment of $1,149 + tax, with $6082 total due at lease inception. (I am basing this on CA doc and tax fees NY may be a bit higher). So if the $1,265 is a tax included payment it sounds like you have a pretty air tight deal.
I hope that helps..
Rover-Guy
I'm currently in an '03 RR HSE CPO lease that is 36/mo $650/mo with 15k/year. Great deal IMHO. Car had all the bells and whistles that were already 100% depreciated (brush bar, side steps, rear grate, tow kit, rear entertainment, etc.) and came with full CPO warranty for term of my lease. I picked up the car in 2/06 with 20k miles and returning it 2/09 with 65k miles.
I want to do another CPO with an 06 or 07 RR HSE. 06's are trading around $45k and 07's are closer to $55k (these are dealer CPO prices).
Questions:
1. How much are CPO leases going for on the 06's and 07's? Does anyone have recent experience? Further, does anyone know of residuals or money factors used for CPO market?
2. Are there any incentives available where rr can pull you forward into a new CPO lease and forgive 2 months of payments on old lease or do they just build that into the new lease?
3. Is it worth waiting for any reason? Incentives, more 07's will hit market soon, etc.
Thank in advance,
Seth
thanks for your feedback. Makes me feel a little bit more comfortable with the deal I am going to sign later today.
Yes, the $1,265/month payment was assured by the salesman as a total payment. This is his exact words:
-The COD is comprised of first month payment, taxes and DMV fees (Reg, License, etc) If you would like to put money down, then the monthly payment will drop.
-The monthly payment is total monthly payment (Taxes are In the COD)
So, according to him the taxes were paid in the initial inception fees payment.
So, I guess this is a good deal. I'm going to go ahead and go with it. All this negotion was done through email. I just hope that when I get to the dealership today, the paperwork will reflect what we negotiated through the email.
Well I'll keep everyone posted on what happens.
Thanks again Rover-Guy.
NYRangeRover1.
Rover-Guy
Currently I can not find any information on a CPO lease. US-Bank used to be the go to source but since they have dropped out of pre-owned leasing, I am not sure exactly where to lead you, as LRCG does not lease pre-owned any longer.
Rover-Guy
sounds like you got a real good deal. I pay more and have no options.
Well, just to keep everyone updated mainly Rover-Guy, all the papers are signed, I drove off the lot with the ranger rover today. Very nice truck. The dealer tried to give me a 12K mile p/year when we initially agreed to the 15K. So he was a little pissed he couldnt pull that one over on me.
Only thing that concerns me is that the paperwork says the exterior color of the truck is a Sintori Black or something like that, its kind of a flat dull black when you look at it. Not Java Black which seems a little bit brighter and glossier.
NYRangeRover.
1) I have quite a bit of dings and scratches on the outside. The inside is fine.
Should I try to have all the outside damage fixed myself before the inspection? Or do I leave it as it is and pay whatever they charge me....how does it really work?
2) I was presented with the option to continue to lease the vehicle. Given the current horrible rates and the economy, I don't want to pay more than $1300/month on ANY vehicle. So I was looking into maybe leasing sport but was quoted $1615/month! I wonder if I would do better with a different make (ie BMW?). What to do? Is it possible to pay less than $1300/mo on RR or RR Sport without having to come up with a lot of out of pocket?
Let’s see – I would guess that your leas is with LRCG as they had the best program in 06, regardless all the leasing companies use independent inspection companies to asses the damage v.s. normal wear and tear to your car. Most dealerships can give you a general idea of what is considered acceptable and what is not, but keep in mind they play no part in what the bank ultimately charge’s you for damage if any.
I would recommend contacting the local dealer to see what they say – if you give me an idea of where you live I may be able to recommend the closest / best dealer to speak with.
As for question #2 – Land Rover recently released extra money / incentives on the 2008 full sized rover – ie – with minimal drives (1st month payment tax and lic.) you should be at about 999+ tax for 39 months with about 10,500 miles per year. (keep in mind the banks are being very cautious who they lend money to theses days so it would be based on a very strong credit score). I believe this program nets the dealer about $1200 total gross, which is very fair. You may be able to negotiate this down a little bit – again depending on where you live I may be able to recommend a dealership who I have heard is very competitive.
A sport for $1650 a month sounds very high.. Was your quote on a supercharged model?, Or with extra equipment? and was it a 2009 or 2008?
If you give me the MSRP of the sport you were looking at I can give you a better idea of what the payment should be. That being said I know that you will get a better overall deal on a 2008 Range Rover HSE based on the incentives and programs available.
Hope that helps a bit,
Rover Guy
The lease seems high to me. The money factor is average and the residuals are horrible. I assume that you are leasing this vehicle in Las Vegas? How many months is the lease?
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Matt
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Glad you got the deal, and didn't get nailed by the mileage switch-a-roo..
The Santorini Black is the new color, it is actually more metallic and brilliant then the Java, but you can only really see the flakes in direct sunlight. of course this is just my opinion
Rover Guy
I calculated your deal using a Range Rover HSE $78,550 MSRP / $72,254 INV. Minimal drives 1st payment tax and lic, rolling your last payment..
I came up with this:
$2,125 due at signing
$1,023 + tax per month $1,108 including tax @ 8.25%
10,500 miles per year
36 months
Tier “0”
37 % residual
LRCG
Take note that it is much harder to qualify for tier “0” more typically you will see tier “1” approvals, if this is the case it would bring your payment up to $1,048 + tax and up your drive off to about $2,155.
Hope that helps..
Rover Guy
That deal seems very high – not taking credit score into consideration, and I am not familiar with the Tire and Wheel Protection.
Roughly I come up with something like this: MSRP $85,550 / Inv $78,629, $5750 rebate
$2,400 due at signing
$1,400 a month including tax
36 months
12,000 miles per year
.00351 (tier 0) or .oo380 (tier 1)
36% Res.
I am not sure how much the tire and wheel protection is, but I can’t imagine is worth $250 a month
Hope that helps!
Rover Guy
Thanks for all the help on the forum. I live in Los Angeles can you recommend a dealership who you have heard is very competitive as stated in the post for Malibugaga? Thanks.
my zip code is 90265.
I was looking at non-supercharged model sport but with DVDs in the back. It seems now that full sized HSE model offers better deals?
What is the best deal you know of on 2008 or 2009 RR HSE? All I need is again the DVDs in the back (2 kids!) - the rest I don't care as much about. Meaning I don't need to have all wood dashboard or such things...
What is usually the lowest down payment? (On the 2006 model we paid 10k up front and I don't want to do that again...) I would like the monthly payment to be as close to 1k as possible.....Also - is it better to wait until January to get better deal on 2008? Or do you think I could get similar deal now?
Depending on where in LA you live for best overall buying experience I would recommend the following, one of them should be relatively close.
Land Rover Thousand Oaks (Silver Star)– ask for the fleet manager (be sure you get the one who is actually in the land rover building, younger fellow very knowledgeable, and got our last 2 Rovers from him, and he had them delivered to our home contracts, and all.)
Land Rover LA, (Hornburg)– ask for the internet sales manager several happy people have got good deals there, but be careful some of the sales managers / sales people get a bit atypical and play the game.
Land Rover Mission Viejo – ask to speak with the sales manager, there are two, you want to speak with the young man with a bit of an atypical California surfer accent also a low stress buying experiance.
All three of the above listed dealerships have been referred on more then one occasion, and we have either worked directly with or had friends or family had excellent buying experiences with very competitive pricing, and more importantly with out hassle or games you would find at other dealerships.
That being said, I would also recommend you stay away from 2 particular dealerships, both are under the same ownership, and both have the worst reputations for a highline dealer that I have ever come across. I won’t mention them by name simply say, to save mild brain trauma, stay away from the valley and the airport area
Hope that helps,
Rover-Guy
90265 - Malibu-gaga.. Now I get it! Guess I am a little slow some times.
Currently there are no good deals on the 09 sports, and most dealers are out of, or almost out of the 08’s (some ugly colors still exist). I agree you should get a full size Range Rover The program is pretty good; much better then the program on the 09 sports. A Ranger Rover HSE with factory DVD has an MSRP $81,050
If your credit is above average a lease with12,000 miles per year should look like this:
36 months,
$2,500 due at signing (approx)
$1150 including tax (Malibu / LA County)
Or
48 months,
$2,500 due at signing (approx)
$1075 including tax (Malibu / LA County)
The residual is super low in both cases 36% and 21% – but I with all of the dealer cash and rebates the numbers still add up.
I wouldn’t wait till January I doubt the program will get better. As a matter of fact I am willing to bet the programs will get worse. With the sale of Land Rover finalizing, come the 30th of December, Land Rover Capital will be no more, and Chase will be stepping in as Land Rover’s captive lender (Chases programs are no where near as good as the current LRCG programs).
Furthermore next to a brief spurt towards the end of 2006 this is the cheapest payments I have ever seen on a Full Sized Range Rover
Rover-Guy
Kept saying it's a good deal because of the rebates.
I know $1670/month seems high, but I called dealers in California/Pasadena and they wanted $1800+.
Getting frustrated. Thanks for everyone's help!!!!
Rob in Las Vegas
MSRP $85,550
Invoice $76,354
Running Boards: $1,400 (installed)
Carpet Mats: $300
Rebate: $5750
Buy Rate: .00351
Minimal drives: $2,486 (California fees and taxes 8.25%)
Monthly payment: $1,205 + tax $1,305 including
Now – if we change it up and put the retractable running boards on
MSRP $85,550
Invoice $76,354
Running Boards: $4,000 (installed)
Carpet Mats: $300
Rebate: $5750
Buy Rate: .00351
Minimal drives: $2,486 (California fees and taxes 8.25%)
Monthly payment: $1,287 + tax $1,393 including
Both scenarios give the dealer about a net 1500 profit which is more then fair.
I hope that helps!
Rover-Guy
I was offered the following 2 leases:
2008 HSE Luxury Package 39 month lease $1075+tax (LA County)
$0 down (only pay registration and first payment)
2008 Range Rover Sport Supercharged
$0 down (same scenario)
48 month lease $899/mo +tax
Are these fair prices and or do I have any wiggle room here?
I am tryig to decide between the two. I like both vehicles a lot and almost equally for the interior. I love the exterior on the full body but the sport is a little more fun to drive.
Both deals are “Steals” either way you can not go wrong,.. I doubt highly that you would have any room to negotiate from the price you were quoted. I would jump either deal, based on calculations they are net “0” deals. Just be careful about them trying to bump you on the rate etc.
Personally I like our full-sized Range Rover better then our Supercharged Sport. Although it lacks a bit in pickup – in the long run the ride and overall comfort is more desirable. Not to mention we average almost 17mpg in the big rover!
Happy hunting!
Rover-Guy