Hyundai Elantra Real World MPG 2011 MY and earlier

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  • doohickiedoohickie Member Posts: 949
    I got 30.3 on my last tank with my 05. About 100 miles was a longish trip to IKEA but we were pretty loaded down on the return leg. Then just the normal commute for the rest of the week.
  • nj2pa2ncnj2pa2nc Member Posts: 811
    we are averaging 33.5mpg on our 05 elantra (5spd) with 46,000 miles.
  • nthenthe Member Posts: 414
    I just bought one last friday (12/23/06) and with the automatic I averaged 27 mpg on the first tank (less than 500 miles on the car) with only city driving (driving to work and looking at christmas lights).

    Most people report better milage as you get a few thousand miles on an engine, so i'd say the elantra is sure to get the milage reported on the sticker.
  • butterflyjonesbutterflyjones Member Posts: 72
    Please keep us up to date on your mileage. I'm interested in the SE or Ltd. but they haven't come in yet in my area. The dealer said they will come in, in Jan. What are your first impressions?? IS the car noisy above 3500 rpm as some have reported?? What speed are you going at 3500 rpm?? Thanks. :D :shades:
  • nthenthe Member Posts: 414
    i was going 80mph down the highway and i could barely hear the engine. i didnt look at the tach, by normal cruising speeds keep it less than 3000.

    I love the car after 1 week. I can open the sunroof and it is just as quiet in the car as with it closed going around 50mph.
  • nthenthe Member Posts: 414
    and i avg 27 mpg with only city driving. based on the info from the trip computer (on 3rd tank), my milage is now about 30 with still mainly city driving. milage seems to be getting better as the engine gets broken in.
  • acura03gacura03g Member Posts: 76
    Hyundai trip computers tend to overestimate by 0.5-1 mpg. You may want to calculate mileage by yourself.
  • spmrebelspmrebel Member Posts: 130
    In my case (05 GT Auto) it over estimates by 4-5 mpg. :sick:
  • acura03gacura03g Member Posts: 76
    really? they must have improved trip computer then. I have an 07 SE auto, 1100 miles right now. For the first 3 tanks, it overestimated by .5-1 mpg.
  • nthenthe Member Posts: 414
    my computer is typically about .5 under the actual.
  • spmrebelspmrebel Member Posts: 130
    Yes. Pretty much a bummer. Maybe its the gas in CA they use. Anyway, I just filled up today and put 13.496 gallons into the tank. My trip odo showed 307.3 miles I travelled since last fill up. MPG indicator indicated 31.9 mpg. Manual calculation of 370.3/13.496 = 27.44 mpg or a 4.4 mpg offset. Yikes :(
  • acura03gacura03g Member Posts: 76
    I just discovered from reading the manual that if you select air flow to windshield (for defogging), the AC will be automatically turned on. I did not know this and I used air flow for a long time. Maybe my mpg for the first 3 tanks were affected by this.
  • acura03gacura03g Member Posts: 76
    312.1 miles, 11.35 gal gas to fill up at the same gas station. Actual gas mileage = 27.5 mpg. Trip computer says 27.7 mpg with average speed 27 mph. So this time trip cmputer figure is very close to calculated figure.
  • nthenthe Member Posts: 414
    now that my car is 2 months old with about 2500 miles on it, my mpg are still at 27 with only city driving. every part of this car is great so far..
  • doohickiedoohickie Member Posts: 949
    nthe: Do you have a 2007? If so, that's a nice improvement over the previous model.

    In about a year and a half and 28,000 miles, I've averaged 26.6 mpg. I had hoped for a little more than that, but considering I moved up from a Ford Aspire that got 31-32 most of the time, a car with twice the power and a lot more room getting almost 27 mpg is pretty darned good.

    I took a trip this weekend and got 31 mpg and over 400 miles in my tank. Lately I've been getting almost 29 mpg just in normal commute driving.

    The mileage is not as good as my Aspire, but this car is a lot bigger, more powerful and more comfortable. Way to go, Hyundai. :)
  • nthenthe Member Posts: 414
    yes, its a 2007 limited automatic.
  • travisn000travisn000 Member Posts: 6
    I've got about 3,000 mi on my elantra, about 95% hiway (avg. 60-80mph) with 100mi/day round trip daily commute to work. My first tank gave me just over 30mpg by ODO calculation with 87 octane, and I have gotten between 30-32mpg with every 87 octne tank with the exception of one, an exclusivly freeway trip on a sunny afternoon, which gave me 34mpg.

    I recently ran a tank of 92 octane to see if there was any difference, and got 36mpg. I switched back to 87 octane for the same drive a few days later, and was back at 30 mpg. By my calculations (mpg/$pg) that makes 92 octane slightly cheaper despite the $0.20 extra per gallon. Any similar experiences?
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    Try a few tanks in a row and see if the trend continues. That is a nice jump in mpg.
  • doohickiedoohickie Member Posts: 949
    As my 05 Elantra GLS hatch with AT comes up to 30,000 miles, the fuel economy seems to be improving. I had been getting 26.5 mpg overall, but lately it's bumped up to about 29 every tank, and the total fuel economy is up to 26.7 since I bought the car.

    On my daily commute I tend to follow the same route and don't gun it when entering the freeway, so that helps.
  • acura03gacura03g Member Posts: 76
    As you may know EPA just changed their 30-year old method for estimating fuel economy. New estimates for 2007 models are here: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calculatorSelectMake.jsp?year=2007

    Prius: from 55mpg (combined city/hwy) lowered to 46
    Civic: 35 to 29
    Elantra: 32 to 28
  • prosource1prosource1 Member Posts: 234
    I rent a vehicle each weekend and rec'd an Elantra GLS (with a sunroof)his weekend. This is good as I am considering the purchase of one for its price and fuel efficiency. Here is my impression and the fuel mileage thus far:

    Likes: exterior and interior styling, fuel mileage!!, roomy, lots of equipment, smooth ride, good power, good highway cruising(be careful), ergonomics, great braking, good handling, good sound system with CD player, night gauge cluster illumination, no lumber support; feels very well built.

    Dislikes: seat cushion length for tall drivers, Radio receiver sound quality, no auto up feature on drivers window(has auto down)

    Here is the clincher. We used this car for our business this weekend and with temps over 90degrees, had to sit in car with air on for lengthy periods while waiting for our staff. On our first tank of gas we did only city driving, with long periods of sitting and still received almost 25 mpg! I then filled up and took a 120 mile trip with speeds of 70-85+ mph, air conditioning on and filled up on return. I received 33.5 mpg! This is probably the car we'll buy for another vehicle in our family fleet. I feel this car rec'd very impressive mileage considering this engine has very good power. On the highway, this car will easily creep up to 80-90 mph and yet will still get 33.5 for the trip?! It also feels very well put together and rigid with smooth ride. I am very impressed with this car and so is my wife.
  • mrcellusmrcellus Member Posts: 52
    Thank you for this observation. This is why I want a 2007 SE Elantra. There are many and many great reports on the new Elantra even with the bunch that is experiencing the only problem I have heard of: the speedometer cluster. I have been greatly tuned into all the reports and consumer reports and i know with all that is offered this is the car for me. Thanks to all that help to share the pure thoughts of this great auto.
  • joe131joe131 Member Posts: 998
    This is so neat! Have you all noticed yet?
    The EPA website now has converted all the EPA mileage estimates for vehicles all the way back to 1985 so they are directly comparable to the new 2008 standards.
    As most of you know, the 2008 numbers will be adjusted downward from earlier years to more closely approximate the actual MPG that average drivers are getting in city and highway driving.
    http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymake/Hyundai2006.shtml
  • sws050sws050 Member Posts: 3
    I have 1000 miles on my elantra GLS 2007 Automatic. I have been keeping good track of the mileage I'm getting, but on the sixth tank I was floored. The first 4 tanks I got good mileage, between 29 - 35 (mixed hwy and city) the 29 was mostly city and I was so happy, then I filled up for the sixth tank and saw my 5th tank only got 21 mpg in the city. Now the tank is 1/2 empty and I am at 165, expecting the tank to go down faster as it nears empty so am not expecting it to go over 300. If the tank is 14 or 14.5, that means I would be getting about 21 again. I don't top off the tank. Is this right even for a new car? Here are my drving habits:

    6 miles to work and back. (city driving)
    About 30 miles hwy so far. 130 city.

    Sorry so lenghthy. Thanks. But one other thing. When I filled up after the 5th tank it took 3.45 gallons cause I filled up after a week. Will it be different if I fill up when it needs a lot of gas? Will the time of day that I fill up change how much it actually wants (not topping it off)?
  • harlqnharlqn Member Posts: 18
    Are you basing this on the trip computer or your own math? The trip computer is a more "instantaneous" read (not really the right word). The further you go on any given tank, the less drastically the MPG number will move.

    If you did the first 4 tanks under nearly identical conditions as your 5th tank, then there may be an issue. Keep in mind however, that idling time can have a huuuge effect. Less than 20 min. of idling on my current tank (4500 ODO miles) has the MPG number about 5 MPG lower than usual.

    Also, it seems like if you start a tank out with a high MPG, it'll tend to stay higher and vice versa. So for where I fill up, if I catch mostly greens on my way out of there, the whole tank will tend to be higher than when I catch mostly reds (and vice versa).

    The gas cutoff when refueling should be fairly consistent. The time of day can have a small effect on the fuel density as it is pumped. It shouldn't matter what level the tank was at when you pulled up to the pump. Is it possible you had one of those lovely gas pumps that cuts off at the slightest twitch, even when the tank is nowhere near full?
  • sws050sws050 Member Posts: 3
    Thanks for replying...

    My own math is used. My Elantra doesn't have the computer tech that others have.

    It is possible that the pump stopped prematurely on previous tanks, which is weird for it to happen on 4 out of 5.

    Here is the tank info so far:

    Tank 1: 43 miles 1.66 gallons used = 25.9 90% hwy
    Tank 2: 251.6 miles; 7.91 gallons used = 31 98%hwy
    Tank 3: 80 miles; 2.7 gallons used = 29 100% city
    Tank 4: 319.2 miles; 9.539 gallons used = 33 95% Hwy
    Tank 5: 70.9 miles; 3.345 gallons used = 21.195 100% city

    Weird stats. I know I didn't write anything down wrong on tank 5 because I was thinking at 3 gallons during the fill-up, that doesn't seem right it should have stopped at 2.5.

    Anyway. I don't see any scrape marks on my gas door if someone stole gas. So, I was going to wait until it was hot out again to fill my tank because it has been cold here in SLC, but I will probably do it today even though it is cold because you said that weather shouldn't matter.
  • joe131joe131 Member Posts: 998
    For more meaningful MPG tests, try to refill your tank only when it is nearly empty. Use a slow fill rate when you tank is close to getting filled up and stop filling your tank the first time the pump automatically turns off. That will keep MPG errors to a very small percentage.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Also, for greatest accuracy, try to fill at the same station, even the same pump, and at the same temperature. The volume of gasoline does change with temperature, so there's a difference at, say, a crisp morning at 45 degrees and a warm afternoon at 95 (which btw we had in my town a week or so ago on consecutive days).

    The reason to fill at the same station/pump is that I've noticed huge variations as to when pumps shut off. There's this station nearest me where it's very hard to get within a gallon or two of full. The next-closest station to me, that's easy.
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Member Posts: 1,602
    Your problem is that 3 of your 5 fill-ups were at 80 miles or less. If the gas pump cuts off a little early, it give a false high mpg reading on the tank you just replaced and a false low reading on your next tank, especially if the next fill up is after a small number of miles.

    If your tank #4 shut off early and really should have taken 10 gallons, that means you only would have needed 2.884 gallons to fill up after 70.9 miles. Your tank 4 would have been 31.9 MPG and tanks 5 would have been 24.6 MPG. These differences are the result of only .461 gallons being applied to either tank 4 or tank 5.

    Now if you take your mileage (764.7 miles) for all 5 tanks and your gallons for all 5 tanks (25.154), you will see that you have averaged 30.4 MPG.

    A lot of gas pumps shut off earlier (due to vapors) when your are gassing up at the fastest speed. If your pumps have the latches, try using the middle latch. Usually it will pump in more gas than the fastest latch. The slowest latch will give an even more complete fill, but takes noticeably longer.

    Whether you start off, after fueling, will all green lights or with stop & go makes no difference in your average MPG.

    Short term MPG is not reliable because minor errors in miles or gallons can significantly change the math calculation. The larger the numbers (miles and gallons), the more reliable your calculations will be.
  • joe131joe131 Member Posts: 998
    yup, yup
  • sws050sws050 Member Posts: 3
    Thank you so much everyone who gave me advice. I will start letting the tank get close to empty instead of being so excited about seeing what the gas mileage is at a lower mileage time.
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Member Posts: 1,602
    You don't have to wait until close to empty. Some place around 1/4 tan +/- will give a fiarly accurate picture.

    But remember the larger the numbers (miles & gallons) the more accurate you average calculation will be. Do it tank by tank BUT keep track of the miles and gallons for 4 or 5 tanks to get a more accurate average MPG. (I'm assuming you know about weighted averages.)
  • doohickiedoohickie Member Posts: 949
    And also... just because you see a jump from one tank to the next does not mean a radical change in fuel economy; it could be just the pump cutting off a little early or late which can make a difference of a quart or more of gas, enough to make the mileage different. But this cannot possibly repeat tank after tank; eventually it evens out.

    I keep track of my mileage with a spreadsheet that calculates mpg for each tank but also does a running calculation for the last ten tanks. That, to me, is a better indication of my fuel economy.
  • mort4371mort4371 Member Posts: 27
    ...and at the same temperature. The volume of gasoline does change with temperature, so there's a difference at, say, a crisp morning at 45 degrees and a warm afternoon at 95

    FWIW... Unless there are gas stations out there with aboveground storage tanks, ambient outside temperature will have no meaningful difference in the temperature of the gas you pump into your car. Gasoline in an underground storage tank will have a very stable hour-to-hour and day-to-day temperature profile regardless of weather conditions. Even season to season, the changes will be small. The only potential short-term temperature swings (even these probably are not very large) would be after deliveries, until the tank contents all re-equalize to the surrounding ground temperature.
  • travisn000travisn000 Member Posts: 6
    I've heard that it is not good to let your tank go below 1/4 tank on a regular basis because many car manufacturers place the fuel pump inside the tank to use the fuel to dissipate heat from the pump and make it last longer.. supposedly consistently running on low fuel levels shortens the life of the fuel pump?!

    ..any informed opinions out there?

    Also on the topic of MPG, supposedly the elantra has a odometer / speedometer issue in that it reports more miles / MPH than actually traveled. Has anyone taken the time to figure gas mileage using a GPS?

    Related, but a little off topic, Does anyone have any idea if this has a significant shortening effect on my Warranty (will my odometer read 100K at 92K miles because of this)?
  • joe131joe131 Member Posts: 998
    Accurate odometer is a must for accurate figuring of mpg. I've never used GPS to check mine, but it's easy to do on the interstate with the numbered mileposts. Note your odometer mileage. Then drive ten miles (or a hundred) according to the mileposts and compare with your odometer; it should read that same number more than when you started the test.
    Of course then I suppose your next question will be, "How can you be sure the highway department accurately measured between the mileposts?" Right?
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Member Posts: 1,602
    That's an old wives tale.

    The pump doesn't care whether this is 1/8 tank, a half tank or a full tank, it gets cooled just the same.

    The same applied to the old wives tale about "gunk" in the bottom of the tank. The "gnk" always settles to the bottom, regardless of the amount of fuel in the tank, and the gas is fed into the system from the bottom of the tank.
  • joe131joe131 Member Posts: 998
    What if you run out of gas? What cools the pump then?
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Member Posts: 1,602
    Well, I would think that if you run out of gas the car would stop running and you also wouldn't be concerned with MPG. :P

    The issue wasn't about when to fill up to avoid running out of gas, it was about the amount of gas in the tank when filling up to get best MPG and then someone offered that the fuel pump might not be properly cooled at only 1/4 tank of gas.
  • joe131joe131 Member Posts: 998
    No, my question is what happens to the fuel pump when the gas tank is empty, or very close to empty. Does it burn out because not enough gasoline to cool it? Is the fuel pump damaged when the tank is out of gas, or even almost out of gas?
  • caazcaaz Member Posts: 209
    I purchased my new Elantra last night. steal of a deal. 13,285.00 Diving it home which was mainly freeway, i ave 34.2, but i only have 30 miles on the car....I travel weekly from Phoenix to So Cal....& i'm a mpg nut....so you'll be hearing many updates as i begin until its broken in...I'm loooking forward to installing the Denso Irridium plugs which i understand will boost my mpg 3 to 5 more...Ciao for now...Caaz
  • joe131joe131 Member Posts: 998
    Do you plan to compare MPG with regular vs. irridium plugs? It would be neat if you made an AZ-CA-AZ round trip with one set, and then next week do it again but with the other plugs. Two or three tests like that would give pretty good evidence whether they do what you hope they will.
    I'm skeptical about any advertised 10+% gain in MPG due to spark plugs. Seems like a car manufacturer would latch onto that in a hurry if it was true, equipping all their cars with those plugs.
  • caazcaaz Member Posts: 209
    I will do some Az to Ca testing with & without the plugs just to see. Ill keep you posted on those results. Btw The info on the plugs was not from an advertisement. It was from this forum...over in the Kia Optima mpg section...However: when i did ask the saleman about the plugs...he did agree that denso...bosch...Aanybodys Irridium plugs are far superior to any plug on the market....and assured me i def should realize some gains...If the Manufactuer put those in everycar...they'd have to raise the price.$55.00 for 4 isnt cheap.
  • joe131joe131 Member Posts: 998
    A price increase of $50 or so on a new car is almost nothing. If the EPA economy ratings would increase by 10+% the buying public would notice and profits from increased sales of that car would be way more than $50 per car.
    I'll be watching for your updates.
  • caazcaaz Member Posts: 209
    Im on vacation this week so i wont start the weekly Ca to Az. till next week...However, today, Saturday July 7th i filled my car for the 1st time......401 miles x 14.662 Ga. = 27.35 MPG.......80% city 20% Hwy...
    Now....ready for the interesting fact if you didnt catch it yet ?...i filled exactly 1 mile after my gas light went on..and put in 14.66 Ga. in a tank that is not supposed to be more than 14 ga. If i truly have 1 ga left, or even just 1/2 gallon left...it holds minimum 15 Ga....i filled up in so cal at 5:30 a.m. So it wasnt hot..tanks were cool..no expansion..it really holds 15 ga. Im gonna love that extra gallon when im on my road trips...and Yes..i topped it off..right to the throat.
  • joe131joe131 Member Posts: 998
    Maybe a gas tank is one part and a fuel filler tube is another part. Maybe the manufacturer only publishes the amount the tank holds.
  • caazcaaz Member Posts: 209
    i looked underneath....the filler tube cant hold more than a quart...its to small

    p.s. Joe..you know what the decibal rating on the Elantra is at 70 mph?....its 69 for the civic & prius...but not sure about the Elantra
  • joe131joe131 Member Posts: 998
    I don't know. But from my test drives and reports of others', the Elantra is the quietest 4 door sedan you can get for anywhere near its price, and quieter than the Civic.
    Also, decibels is not necessarily the thing to be concerned about. It is not always a good comparison number to use between one car and another. The frequency and nature of the noise is often more important to the occupants' peaceful enjoyment than a relative measure in decibels.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    C/D measured 69 dBA for the Elantra at 70 mph... and 72 for the Civic LX. (And 73 for the Corolla, and 72 for the Rabbit, and 70 for the Sentra, and 71 for the Mazda3s... yes, the Elantra is pretty quiet for its class, and was quietest of all those cars at idle also but 1-2 dBA more at full throttle than some of them.)

    But back to fuel economy... in the same test (Dec '06), C/D measured 28 mpg overall for the Elantra over a 550-mile trip, which was the 2nd best number in the test (Civic and Corolla tied for best at 33 mpg).
  • joe131joe131 Member Posts: 998
    Something I like about Hyundai sedans is that they have more passenger room than the cars they almost always are being compared with in those magazines. I believe the Accent, Elantra and Sonata (or similar Kias) are ALL bigger than all other cars in the same competetive price classes.
    Engineering- and manufacturing-wise, it is easier and cheaper to make a smaller car quiet and frugal with fuel while achieving good handling and performance than it is to do the same with a larger car.
    Hyundai does all that with their spacious cars, adds equipment over what the competition includes, and then sells them for less... and with longer and more comprehensive warranties too! How do they do it?
    Check them out. Buy a couple. Enjoy!
    Hyundai shines!
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