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I thought the engine noise was acceptable at 75 and it is a bit louder than the tire noise (Although I've had issues with my tires). I am running at between 3.5 and 4,000 RPM at that speed. The engine does scream when your RMPs hit 6,000 but I am usually in high acceleration and accept the noise as a by-product of the high output.
My top speed so far is 102 and I still had plenty of RPMs to work with. Had it at 99 today in 5th at an RPM of approximately 6900 - 7000 before shifting. It was a blast.
I did test drive the TC as well and agree the engine noise was too much and it needed a sixth speed. Actually it was one of the defining factors for my purchase of the Si.
Hope this helps.
I agree with Riveted, I don't not think Honda engine noise at high Rpm is anything to worrry about or that will obther you.
I had a 1995 Integra GSR that was about 20 miles per 1,000 RPM in 5th gear ( top gear), menaing it ran about 3,500 at 70 mph and the noise was not really noticable.
I currently have a S2000 which is about 18.5 mile per thousand RPM and at 4,000 rpm about 75 mph the noise is not very loud and is very tolerable.
If you compare this with a Corolla or Tc running at the same RPM it sounds like they are at the limits, where as the Honda engines have a nice sweet mechanical sound!
Bottom Line: Don't worry about the high RPMs and/or the associated sound.
Double VTEC,
MidCow
I don't feel its about the sexes thing. Its a matter of personal preferences. Its your car, you should own a car that you feel is "YOU". Personality is becoming a key factor in one decision to buy a car.
We have 4 Si coming in the next month or so, all SOLD!
However, turn the volume off when hitting big RPMs and listen to the other "music".
I've asked about the power train and Limited Slip Differential with the dealer. He has consistantly said it's not the issue, yet has mentioned being on the phone with Honda Engineering to try to solve the issue. I just can't figure if he's blowling smoke up my back side... Cuz if it's a bigger problem like the LDS, I'm fine with that just fix it. I don;t think there should be anything to hide.
Riveted
Thanks.
Any other '06 Si owners had their rear Si badges stolen already? I've had mine less then a day and *poof* it's gone.
I started poking through the "Si 2005 and earlier" board and it sounds like (a) I ought to have expected this and (b) it's likely to happen again.
98% of the time, my car's parked in a gated, underground garage (backed in, even). I'm wondering if it's worth replacing?
Let me know.
One final thought on your pulling issue. I read in the owners manual that you should not put the spare tire on the front due to the smaller size causing an overcompensation with the LSD. (if you have a front flat, put a rear tire on the front and put the spare on the rear)
I wonder if your tire size, for whatever reason (PSI, etc) is different between your left and right front tires? After checking the PSI, you might want to actually measure the diameter/circumference of the tire itself. It could be that even a 1/4 inch difference causes the problem you experience.
Just a thought.
Thanks for the thoughts. It may make some sense given what the dealership stated about the tires. They stated some mix up with Michelin and the car came off the factory floor with incorrect tires. The severity of the pull has lessened after they changed the front tires. There still seems to be a slight pull still but the dealership is stating it's because they need to change out the rear tires as well. They could only get a hold of two front to begins with and they are waiting for two more for the rear. I am trying to be patient and waiting for rear tires to come in so they can replace them. Hopefully that will solve the issue. I really do want the issue resolved because I am loving the car and having great fun driving it.
As stated in a previous post I traded down from an Infinity G35 and wasn't sure how I was going to feel about it... but so far it's been a blast. The creature comforts I've missed so far is the climate control, six disk in dash CD player and heated seats (live in the North). Performance wise I am still getting my arms around a front wheel drive car again. I loved driving a rear wheel car for so long and just not used to the front wheel drive yet.
As far as the power goes, the move from an automatic to a manual has sufficiently satisfied my aggressive driving habits. I am still waiting to get to a place where I can really open it up. So far 108 is the tops...
I'm still trying to get used to the VERY LARGE numbers staring at me about how fast I am going. Something I think are simply better left as estimates verses knowing EXACTLY my speed you know...
Thanks for the reply.
I'll keep you posted.
Rivet
I got my new Civic Ex Coupe 5AT about a month ago. I love the car to death. Seats are comfortable, engine has good umph, 4 wheel discs, sunroof, gotta love it all.
My one complaint is I have a really annoying rattle coming from the plastic rear deck panel. It usually vibrates the most when the bass is at mid range. The volume can be as low as 6 to hear it, so it's not a result of blasting the stereo. The specific spot is to the drivers side portion of the subwoofer. It looks like the speaker grate of the subwoofer is separate from the deck panel. I didn't want to mess with it since basically no one but the dealer has instructions on how to do so.
Has anyone else had this problem? How did you solve it, other than shoving something between the rear window and the panel?
Twomotor
I hesitated before buying the Civic because of posts here about transmission vibration and squeaks/rattles. Having owned my Civic almost a month, I'm happy to report no problems. Having driven a Grand Prix for 5 years, it took a week or two for me to get used to the Civic way of doing things, but I think it has me broken in now.
So far I'm thrilled with the car. I was able to get my first color choice... Shoreline Mist/Ivory. I love the paint color -- I'm colorblind and even my "color seeing" friends can't quite figure out what color the car is. I find that positively amusing, but then I'm easily amused! :-)
Gas mileage so far -- exactly 30 mpg for my usual mixed driving. One road trip... got 35 mpg.
Strumelia
P.S. I am shocked by the reports that some people's fabric upholstery is getting holes worn in it by normal seat belt use after only 3 MONTHS!! Is this true??? Which fabrics are they? If so, that is totally unacceptable, and Honda should recall and replace the fabric on ALL those cars!
Most dealerships are still only getting a few a month.
Very few with NAV, can't get NAV now; it you got early NAV you are lucky.
Price still around MSRP.
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Tried to special order, actually did special order 12/17/05, Honda sales department I wnet through was either: Incoompetent, didn't know how to special order or both ?
Ended up buying a S2000; very very happy.
Good Luck, the Si is a great car. Be very careful if you are not getting a Manual shift Civic,; some problems with lugging and vibration on a fairly large percentage of Auto Civics. Probably will be resolved with 2007 model.
Good Luck
Cruis'n Double Sixes (2005 6-speed Accord, 2006 6-speed S2000) :shades: :shades: ,
MidCow
6-speed. It would be pointless to trade for an Si. Plus as i said before i hate the dash. Thanks for the information though, i still would like to just test drive a new Si just to do it.
The RSX-S is a great car. I had a 95 GSR. Wish I hadn't got rid of it but previous insurance company was going to raise the rates for my son to $5,400 a year.
Anyway I like the RSX-S all except for the orange night display. That kept me from getting one; too hard to see! I much prefer the digital gauge, whit on black ( accord) over that. Alos didn't like the orange in a BMW that I had or the Lexus IS300 (manaual shift naturally, but only 5-speed) I still have ( but don't drive much).
Cheers,
MidCow
P.S.- I would be interested in you opinion after driving a Si; the performance should be similar.
Anyway, whenever i get the chance (considering honda dealers ever get one) i will let you know the performance difference. I bet they will be very close if not the same. the one thing that would help the new Si is the LSD. Although the rsx-s has a little more power, and all the testing or whatver say the type s is faster 0-60.
Most likely i will try to test drive one one of the days of March 25 through April 1. So I dontknow how much you check these posts but throughout that week im goin to try and drive one.
Could you please elaborate on the lugging/vibration comment you made about civics? I'd like to know where to read about this issue. I have a 2006 auto civic coupe EX.
thanks
Strumelia
This car is so 'peppy' and responsive, that daily I am pleasantly surprised after driving every day for three weeks. Just love the automatic transmission after the 5 spd manual on my SE 300ZX. The Shiro Edition 300ZX was a superior looking and driving car, and altho I had a hard time letting it go, I have taken to this new 2006 EX like a 'duck to water'.
Love the Moonroof, especially since I share the car with my 4-legged companion, who sits in the back seats on a protective cover. I can easily ventilate the car with the moonroof and windows partially opened when parked. And, trunk vs hatchback...
I'm a convert to a car with a trunk now. Out of sight, out of mind.
Listening to the CD music w/4 speakers is a real step up from a tapedeck with 2 speakers. My hearing isn't great, and with the quiet interior and the placement of the speakers near one's head...the music is MOST enjoyable. In the East Tennessee area my insurance cost with GMAC, including a 1989 Toyota Motorhome , 500$ deductible, hi-limits, etc $760 per annum.
Filled the gas tank for the first time today and figured the gas consumption at a disappointing 26.48 mpg at 287 miles. I'm hoping that it will improve in the 2nd check as the engine gets 'broken in'. It's rated at 30 city and 40 highway.
I enjoy reading about other owner's experiences with their EX coupes. It keeps me current on what I might expect in the event of any problems. I'm glad I found this site.
I feel part of the group. Bye. Francey
http://www.handa-accessories.com/e/
Also, so does Honda Preview at College Hills Honmda and they also have excellent installation PDF files.
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/civicaccessories.htm
Enjoy your car and welcome to the forum!
Double Sixes,
MidCow
by the way, I bought the AT - can't wait for a drive this weekend
Strumelia
information in the Honda website that they recommend High Detergent Gas rather than the el-cheapo gas places that have the lowest detergent gas to save cost. I've always gassed up at the el-cheapo's but now look for the High Detergent Gas places.
Butterfly: Yes, my driving was mostly short trips, nothing over 20 miles each way.
That is discouraging that the EPA numbers are not valid. I mainly bought this vehicle to get the higher mileage.
Regarding the LUG BUG. I have no idea what that is, and need someone to give a description of what it sounds like in the transmission area and any other information, to catch it before it does any serious damage. I haven't heard any rattles and squeaks as yet... the car is too new. I have experimented with the A/C and it works beautifully. Thanks for the nice remarks. I will post my mileage occasionally and I do hope I get better mileage. Our gas at present 19 March is now $2.35 a gallon... outrageous!
Bye. Francey
Regarding the gas: The Honda site lists the Top Tier Detergent gas stations that provide the gas that should be put in our new Hondas: Chevron, Quiktrip, 76, Conoco, Shell, Phillips 66, Entec and MFA. It specifically said Quik-trip, not the other Quik something place.. I looked Top Tier Detergent gas up on the web and it emphasizes the same thing. This gas is made for these manufactured cars: Honda, Toyota, General Motors and BMW. My friend, who uses the el-cheapo gas, periodically pours a container of that gas-additive, which is probably hi end detergent, into her tank to protect the engine. Good idea, but just as easy to fill up with the proper gas is my thinking.
Bye, Francey
The Honda folks said they'd never seen anything like it--it's as if the back windshield had been glued with Elmer's or school paste rather than super glue. When I would get out of the car, and then close the door, the force of the air going back into the car would make the back windshield rise up near the roof line about 2 inches and then settle back down.
The dealership has put me into a rental.
Interestingly, my son said all the Honda 2006 Civics in his outdoor parking lot in Missouri got demolished in the recent hail storms they had in Missouri because that back windshield is configured at such a low angle. All the Civic back windshields, he said, popped out when hit by the hail and broke into many pieces! Other cars' back windshields just had nick damage or, at the most, hairline cracks.
In addition, an acquaintance in New Jersey said he was driving behind a Honda Civic 2006 Coupe on his way to work this morning, and saw its back windshield lift off at the right top pillar, which is where my problem started.
Mine deteriorated so quickly that between my call to the Honda dealer's service dept. last Wednesday, 3/15, to Honda giving me a service date, which was last Friday afternoon, 3/17, the back windshield lifted up all the way across the roof line, from the right to left pillars, with the lift being more pronounced (2") at the right pillar.
This is really a hazard. Honda did at least remind me, in the two days while I waited for my service appointment, NOT to drive with the windows open (!) as the force of air could have forced the windshield to fly out all on its own!
With spring weather here in the Northeast around the corner, and rolled-down windows imminent, Honda really needs to correct this FAST.
I suggested to the dealer that maybe Honda was using the same amount of glue used on all their other cars, but had not taken into consideration that the lower angle configuration of the new Civic 2006's back windshield might require additional adhesive.
The Honda dealership called late this afternoon. They said the back windshield surprisingly had very little "caulk" around its edges. They've reglued it with superglue and want to wait overnight for it to settle.
They attended to the two recall matters--accelerator pedal and airbags--and also repaired a very sharp "poorly welded," as they termed it, inside corner of the driver's door. They'll make sure the chirping noises when the car is in motion are no longer and were, hopefully, just a consequence of the loose back windshield.
They said they are filing a report with Honda as "no one" in that dealership has ever seen anything like this poorly attached back windshield before.
Sorry to be so long-winded, but have any of you heard of others having this problem?
thanks, willowct
My salesman called again this afternoon to check on how I liked the car, his 3rd such call. After reading your report I'm wondering if he is expecting something like this to happen. I believe I'll call him and ask if anyone in this area of E. TN has had such a problem. It's appalling! Thanks for reporting it. Francey
However, now have a severe wind/vibration type noise at the top of the passenger side door when traveling at 70 - 75 mph on rougher Freeway surfaces. The door probably needs to be adjusted to compress the molding tighter. Will have the dealer do this the next trip in.
They have re-glued it, and the squeaking and rattling noises have stopped on my 20 mile ride home.
The service manager is speaking with his regional Honda rep today and recommend a recall, and I went to the sales dept. and spoke quietly with the dealer manager, who also is going to contact Honda. Obviously, they can't sell these new coupes and Civics if the back rear window is going to fall out.
Re the problems others have encountered with squeaking and rattling, had I been more alert to the problem, I would have figured out that that noise was a precursor to the rear windshield beginning to become unglued at the right rear pillar and, then, by only two days later, unglued from right to left pillar, all along the roof line.
This is a serious Honda 2006 Coupe hazard, and I will file a complaint at the NHTSA. What is of most concern is that those who are not aware of this possibility will either be in shock when their rear window detaches, if they are driving at highway speeds with their windows rolled down, and that the driver behind them is in rear jeopardy.
I did find out that there are quite a few complaints regarding other matters about these new Civics. When I spoke with the dealer manager, I indicated we'd be back to return the car and either replace it with another Honda (we've had luck with the Accord) or go to another brand.
That said, I said to the Honda service manager and the dealer manager this morning that I have felt so unsafe in this Honda 2006 Civic Coupe that since I got it in mid-November, I've driven only 980 miles in it. It is that unsteady and weird.
By next week I hope to have a different car.