Nissan Titan vs Chevy Silverado

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  • sumterscsumtersc Member Posts: 3
    i have read all the good,not so good and the bad things people have said about the nissan titan,and now here is my two cents. i'm and all american guy who spent a year in iraque and i love my country and diversity is what america is all about. if nothing else the titan and tundras will push detroit to make a better product. i had one chevy,two fords and one dodge and now i drive a 05 titan. i takecare of anything i drive and i had only minor problems with each of my previous trucks. america is going to be just fine but you have to give credit where its due and nissan did a hell of a job for its first try in the full size market. to be that close with whatever detroit is building on your first try is nothing to look down on. my titan has meet or far pass anything i had before. after 36k it is only getting better and i'm not one to cry over gas mileage. the 5.6 is a real work horse and i have pushed this truck to the limit time after time and it has never failed me yet. is it the best truck? i'll leave that open for now because toyota is coming out strong later this year. i have added jba headers,gibson dual side exhaust, volant cold air intake, and a reflexxion scowl hood. this truck simply kicks butt out on the open road and i have ran across almost nothing that could do anything with it except srt10,lightings,. my set up can more than hold its own with the chevy ss and ford harleys. but its not all about winning but winning respect instead. and for the guys who beat me out by a nose,at least i won their respect. i'm still a big fan of the dodge ram and the new silverado but the titan is a really good piece of work. and dont worry,nissan will add new models and configs. with talk of a heavy duty and sport version. i love all the trucks out there because i had them all except the toyota so i cant bash nor do i want. i can only speak on my titan and the mods i've made to it. be cool guys and dont hate.
  • sumterscsumtersc Member Posts: 3
    dont write nissan off too quick here,remember this is the company that the auto business wrote off a few years as going but yet they had a record year in sales last year. i think the people at nissan know their place and for now no japanese company is going to knock any of the big three any time soon in the full size segment. but that doesnt mean you give up,nissan in my openion has always been #3 in japan just like chrysler has always been #3 here. and the quality at nissan in general will stack up well against any u.s. company. this is coming from a guy who had two fords, one chevy,one dodge,and now a titan. everyone knows toyota is the bench mark on quality and everyone needs to try to get there also. the u.s.a. is more than big enough to handle five full size trucks in its market, after all look how many car companies that are in hte u.s. and still more to come. there is people out ther for the titan nissan just have to do a better job of selling it to the right people thru the right advertising methods. i love watching the battle of the full size trucks because it will payoff for the buying public in the long run.
  • aka1aka1 Member Posts: 110
    I have been interested in the Titan since its inception, but have not had a chance to purchase one yet- maybe haven't found the right excuse would be better.

    The discussions here are agonizing, due to inaccuracies and misinformation.

    First the TITAN was designed in America, by Americans. Second the TITAN is BUILT in AMERICA by Americans. Nissan, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Honda, pretty much every Japanese mfg. has a plant in the US and employ hundreds of thousands of Americans. These companies have not shut down and single plant and doesn't look like any problems in the near future will shut them down either.

    Saying the Titan can't compete with the domestics because they have had trucks for years is like saying Cadillac has been building luxury cars for over a 100 years so their better. Yet Lexus with its LS400 since 1989 has consistently DOMINATED Cadillac and Lincoln in every vehicle offering. When creating the TITAN the engineering team (numerous FORD, GM, and DODGE engineers were recruited) bench marked each competitors strong points and exceeded expectations. The only contender to the Titan would be the F150- there is no reason to even argue otherwise.

    And finally, stating that "wasteful is the Asian way of thinking," is in itself an oxymoron- there's absolutely nothing wasteful in the Asian culture. I am an American, and the most wasteful and excess loving culture in the world is our own Country. Wasteful is having 120 plus day supply of vehicles just to keep the factory running. Wasteful is the Ford Excursion. Giving you more options is how MFG's make money- bundling popular equipment is actually more of a price savings for the shopper.

    It baffles me to think that someone could actually come up with something like that...

    Granted the TITAN isn't the biggest, the baddest, or Toughest in your opinion- but all things considered, its a heck of truck- enough to have the big three consider it the new "benchmark." See how much the big three is going to worry when the New Titan hits the streets.

    Regards, AKA1
  • oldharryoldharry Member Posts: 413
    I had an '06 Titan in for alignment last week, from a local body shop. I sent it back for frame pulling, and will align it this week for them. The collision was so minor that the body shop, the insurance adjuster, and I were all surprised at the extent of the frame damage.

    While I was examining it on the rack, I rapped my knuckles on the side of the frame rail under the cab. I tried that in several more places.

    Try it if you can find an '06 4x4, the sound is interesting.

    Harry
  • 1offroader1offroader Member Posts: 208
    Nissan has a Titan commercial on TV. It shows the front end of the truck in slow motion as it goes over some bumps, front wheels spinning & slinging mud, music pulsing in the background. You may have seen it. It's supposed to demonstrate the ruggedness of the truck, I guess. Instead, if you watch closely (heck, you don't even need to watch closely) the front bumper and fenders are flapping around like they're loose. The gaps between the bumper and the grille, and between the fenders and hood, are opening and closing by an alarming amount. Either the frame is flexing like crazy, or the fenders and bumper aren't very well anchored to the frame. Either way, if I was doing ads for Nissan, I'd pull that commercial immediately.

    I like the Titan, it was No. 2 on my list, but I don't like the way it performs on that commercial.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I saw that too. I think it's just a result of the bumper being attached to the frame and fenders connected to the body.

    Either way I love my Armada, can't find another SUV with more towing short of the 2500 series suburban with the 6.x L engine.

    -mike
  • saddaddysaddaddy Member Posts: 566
    A recent GMC Sierra commercial shows a very similar occurrence. It is a commercial that shows all the x-ray views from different angles. From the side angle, you can see the gap between the cab and bed opening and closing terribly. Looks bad, but I don't think it's much of an issue.
  • brix92brix92 Member Posts: 8
    In Oct 2006, I bought my first Chevy-an '07 Silverado Classic 1500HD. Before I did, I researched and test drove the Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi and the Nissan Titan. I fell in love w/the Titan! The interior was great and the seats were comfy. I like the exterior look as well.

    During the research (which you gotta do because obviously the sales people not only don't know what they are selling but will say anything to make the deal...) I went to several different Titan forums and read what owners had to say. The MAJORITY of them said that the Titan had major brake problems regardless of the year (even the new -07s)as well as some transmission issues. But the biggest problem were the brakes.

    That made the decision easy for me. I was never impressed w/Dodge and I had a 2004 F150 that was crap, and will never buy another Ford truck (and that was my 7th and last Ford vehicle). Toyota was never even considered due to the fact that there simply is no room inside. I find both the Tundra and Tacoma too small and claustrophobic for my liking.

    I also don't find the steering in my Chevy loose as another person had written. Actually, it is just the opposite.

    I have only had the truck now for 4 months and I have about 4300 miles on it, and I have towed a horse trailer with it. I love my truck!!! So far, so good and I hope it remains like that.

    During my research, I also found out that these Japanese vehicles (whether it is Toyota, Nissan or Honda) are indeed made here in America. Although, obviously, the profits return home to Japan.
  • razorthunderrazorthunder Member Posts: 98
    I own a 2004 Nissan Titan LE 4x4. To tell you the truth, I would own any other truck before a Nissan Titan, again. I bought it with the big tow package in hopes to tow a toy hauler, later. But at 30 months, and 24000 miles Nissan has stopped backing its bumper to bumper warranty. So I had to pay $800 for my fourth set of rotors and brake pads, and I haul jack in this truck. It has left me stranded twice in the middle of the desert when the Body Control Module fails, which causes the instrument cluster and transmission to lose power. My philosophy is if even Nissan won't back its crappy product why should I?
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganMember Posts: 13,994
    enough to have the big three consider it the new "benchmark." See how much the big three is going to worry when the New Titan hits the streets.

    The current titan is light years behind the Silverado, Sierra, Tundra. The new F150 is coming out along with a new Ram in 2009. ;) I'm yet to see spy pics of the new Titan, until then it's more wishful thinking isn't it than reality. :confuse:

    Rocky

    P.S. How much american content does that Titan have ? ;)
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I dunno about "light years" once the new one rolls out with the diesel in MY10 it'll be in the running for top honors.

    -mike
  • razorthunderrazorthunder Member Posts: 98
    I agree, "light years" would be an understatement. Nissan Titans would be a much greater distance behind. Oh God, Nissan trying diesel, Top Honors for most defective truck, just like everything else Nissan tries to debute. Nissan should actually try engineering a vehicle prior to its release versus making customers go through the nightmare after they bought a vehicle while Nissan is trying to fix defects during ownship.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Razor, when are you going to stop your constant bashing? Anyone looking at a nissan msg on here has seen your posts, as you've spattered them all over, move on already. Get it?

    -mike
  • razorthunderrazorthunder Member Posts: 98
    Mike, its ok; you can't handel the truth.

    When are you going to realize that if you stop backing a written warranty it is violation of federal law. If you produce a brand new vehicle that gets repaired over 20 times, that is not a quality product. If you release a vehicle with a brake defect, and than only provide 36 month, 36000 mile solutions versus life time solutions, you should be held accountable for your actions and decisions. If you get a vehicle with electronic issues, and hold it for 3 days, then say "unable to replicate", and the vehicle brakes down on the next use you should be held accountable. If you elect to try to get a customer to "trade in" a vehilce versus fixing the vehicle they already purchased you should be held accountable. If you state to your customer "all brakes on SUV/trucks judder, your vehicle has no problems," only to take a vehicle to a real professional and see the warped rotors than you should be held accountable. If you fail to reprogram the vehicle after replacing the computer, and then blame the customer you should be held accountable. If you fail to repair the brake system after 4 attempts of replacing the brake pads and rotors you should be held accoutable. If you fail to repair the electrical issues after 4 attempts, you should be held accountable. If your product leaves a customer stranded on more than one occasion, out of cell phone range, in the middle of no-where you should be held accountable. Bottomline, Nissan produced a defective product, would not fix it properly, lied and deceived me, broke federal law by not honoring a their own written warranty, and than tried to extort more money out of me!>

    People that are researching vehicles should know of other experiences prior to the purchase of their next vehicle because the pruchase goes beyond features and price; especially when lives depend on the proper safety and fuctioning of vehicle and ethical dealings of the manufacturer and their independently owned franchises. Obviously, in my situation it was more than one dealership and numerious visits, so the problem is not an isolated incident. Which is the great thing about these forums, people can read the nightmare I had to go through with Nissan and weigh that in their decision prior to the purchase of the vehicle. Or like in your case, ignore all the unethical behavior and violation of law, and reliablity concerns and just say "that won't happen to me."
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    The point I'm making is you are shooting yourself in the foot. People reading these message boards have already seen your posts and either agree with you or don't. The only thing you are doing by constantly posting in the SAME DISCUSSIONS is breaking up the flow of the boards.

    You can be upset and post about how Nissan has wronged you, I only ask that you post it 1 or 2 times per thread on here, not EVERY SINGLE POST.

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Or like in your case, ignore all the unethical behavior and violation of law, and reliablity concerns and just say "that won't happen to me."

    By the way, if you've read any of my posts, you'd know I did in fact have the brake issues. At 3,000 miles on my 04 Armada the rotors were warped, Nissan replaced them under warranty with the upgraded rotors, pads and brackets. It has then been fine til I wore out the pads at 30k miles and at that time resurfaced the rotors which had pad deposits and new pads put on. Again under warranty, no questions asked.

    I guess I'm just lucky. I also tow a 6,000lb boat trailer and will be towing a 9000lb boat trailer with confidence this summer with it. Again I must just be lucky with my 2004 as well as the 3 dealers I have delt with (1 the original selling dealer, and 2 different repairing dealer)

    -mike
  • razorthunderrazorthunder Member Posts: 98
    Lucky you. Glad to see Nissan discriminately applies warranty standards; no questions asked in your case and lies and deception in my case. What should make you a perferred customer that your vehicle has less defects than mine? Obviously, you happy with Nissan because your on the other end of the spectrum in terms of Nissan policy. Now, what would you be saying about Nissan if they put your life needlessly at risk, told you they wouldn't honor your warranty, and the vehicle leaves you stranded mutliple times, and your taking it in every week for repair, 75 miles one way, to get it repaired, and mutliple times to get a single repair done correctly.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I'm not saying you are right or wrong, I'm just saying that limit your posts to 1 "nissan did the wrong thing for me" post per thread. If people ask you for more info then by all means respond, but it seems you just keep repeating yourself over and over IN THE SAME THREAD. Trust me, I had a Ford Escort where the AT trans went bad and they never did the right thing for me. I repeated the story for any that would listen, however I didn't make it a PITA for folks to read a board by reciting the same thing to the same audience over and over.

    -mike
  • razorthunderrazorthunder Member Posts: 98
    I had an uncle named Mike, and he was annoying too. He drove a 1981 Ford Escort, and worked at a Grocery store. It was a 3 speed automatic, 1.6L with 120 horse power and matching torque. Its probably working better even today than my 2004 Nissan Titan. Did I mention that in my previous threads? Does being a thread police come with a badge?
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    No badge, just common courtesy.

    -mike
  • razorthunderrazorthunder Member Posts: 98
    The question was rhetorical and did not require a response. But, hey, that $3000 you saved on your 2004 Armanda because of the brake defect could buy you a badge, and you could even get it engraved "Thread Police."
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Sorry but after being here since 1999, I hate when people lack the common courtesy to others in the forums. Is this too much to ask of you? Obviously it is.

    -mike
  • razorthunderrazorthunder Member Posts: 98
    Did you want the date engraved on your Thread Police Badge, too. Serving Edmunds forums since 1999. Hey, Nissan is offering discounts on 2006 NIssan Altima engine burning vehicles. Maybe there is a few out there on lots that still have not been recalled that you can save a few bucks on. Oh well, if you get burned inside, you saved some money.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJMember Posts: 3,516
    I have been here since 1999 with the badge. Calm yourself. Got it?

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I'll have my badge shortly :)

    -mike
  • razorthunderrazorthunder Member Posts: 98
    Got it. What would you recommend? Seeing how I have to replace my current truck. How do you like your Dodge?
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Don't be so disruptive! If someone posts and specifically says "do you have a problem with Nissans" then let her fly as a RESPONSE to a specific question. But to just go randomly posting all over your story multiple times in the same thread is not what this community is all about.

    -mike
  • razorthunderrazorthunder Member Posts: 98
    Mike, you were asked to calm down. If you don't like my post than don't read them. Actually, your the only one that has said that, and your upset because you worship Nissan, whereas I have had nothing but trouble with Nissan in the last two years. But thats a good thing about this forum you can present your prosepctive and I can present mine. Then the other readers can make up there own minds.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Actually this is my first Nissan ever. Now if you asked me about Subarus.... One might think I worship them. Owned quite a few of those, even met the CEO a few months ago.

    Anyway to answer your question as to what to replace it with, my vote would be the GMC/Chevy 1500 or 2500HD, they are my second favorit trucks out there. I'd get it with the Isuzu Diesel engine (Duramax) great engine and allison transmission.

    -mike
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJMember Posts: 3,516
    Check to whom my post 76 is in reply. You were instructed to calm down, not Mike.

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • razorthunderrazorthunder Member Posts: 98
    It takes two to argue, and read the rest of my message.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJMember Posts: 3,516
    You made your point, Mike made his. You had two bad Nissans. Let it go. There is no need to repeatedly say the same thing over and over. You obviously disagree with Mike, and that's fine. But there is no need for you to continue this debate.

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • mick14mick14 Member Posts: 30
    I hope in the future they make a turbo-diesel Titan to compete with the Chevy's/GMC duramax and such. They need to do it. Maybe toyota will come out with one too. We all need more reliability in all makes............. :)
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Yeah apparently Toyota has liscenced or contracted with Isuzu or GM to get the Duramax in the toyotas. Maybe we'll see it in the Titan/Armada too.

    -mike
  • razorthunderrazorthunder Member Posts: 98
    We all need more reliability in all makes.............

    Most definitely!
  • rcsportyrcsporty Member Posts: 3
    I have had brake problems , with my nissan at about 15000 miles. I took my vehicle to the nissan dealership and fixed it no problems their. they replaced rotors and pads under warranty. they also told me they will cover any brake problem under warranty for 100000 miles. So I guess time will tell I have been very satisfied with the warranty work that has beened performed. But I be upset if I broke down multiple times and had to go 75 miles one way to the shop I probably figured I need to trade out of this one and get a different truck because the last one must have been a lemon.
    but to continue to rant about the samething over and over is like beating on a dead horse , or like argueing with a fence post ,it accompishes nothing just my 2 cents :sick:
  • rcsportyrcsporty Member Posts: 3
    so now you are hateing your nissan , my question now is what are you driving now ? I know as much as you hate your nissan you must have got rid of it. :P
  • mick14mick14 Member Posts: 30
    That's not the point. What we need is more of a choice when it comes to choosing. More options. The reliability is already there in Nissan. :)
  • razorthunderrazorthunder Member Posts: 98
    I have not yet purchased my new vehicle since the buy back process takes some time, should be finialized next week. I was awarded repurchase through the BBB arbritration process. I am considering purchasing a Toyota Tundre Crew-Max when they come out. Perferred the looks of the TITAN but this time I'm putting reliability over appearance, after the nightmare my TITAN put me through.
  • razorthunderrazorthunder Member Posts: 98
    Right, all it needs to do is operate during the test drive, and then the 3 days it takes to make the contract legal, and then the reliability is good to go! But personally I hold a higher standard, just my opinion.
  • mick14mick14 Member Posts: 30
    Again, that's not on track. I personally hold a high standard to my vehicle but alas, it has never failed me.If it did, I would have asked for a new vehicle early on and not waited for 24K or extended the warranty. My dealer also did me a solid on everything else including warranty work.
    Options, Nissan needs options for those who tow large amounts of tonnage and such. Again, they need to incorporate a Nissan Diesel capable of large towing capacity- for those who do not like the gas version.
  • razorthunderrazorthunder Member Posts: 98
    I would have asked for a new vehicle early on and not waited for 24K or extended the warranty.

    Your discussion is off topic, in this Nissan versus Chevy forum. However, unfortunately, an extended warranty does not help a lemon vehicle, and you can't just ask for a new vehicle, lemon laws states you have to give the manufacturer multiple repair attempts, most states require 3 or 4 attempts in order to be ruled a lemon, for the same problem, in my case that occurred at 24000 miles.
  • mick14mick14 Member Posts: 30
    That being said, let's get on to Chevy vs. Nissan, How is it in this test did Nissan put down more RWHP that Chevy? Here is the link:
    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=119281
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Probably due to the higher intial HP or the driveline loss of the chevy v. the driveline loss being less on the Titan?

    I'm in this debate right now. Tomorrow I will see how the Armada tows the 9000lb Cigarette Boat I bought. If it doesn't tow it to my liking, then I'll be doing a hard comparison of the Armada to a Sierra 2500HD with Isuzu Diesel Engine....

    -mike
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I don't know anything about that Mike, but I do know Toyota is about to introduce their very own 4.5L V8 diesel in the Aussie Land Cruiser 70-series.

    Here's a blog entry I put up on Straightline last month on this engine.

    http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/2259

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
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    The Armada towed the Cig Boat without a problem at 65mph on the NJTP and the GSP today about 25 miles or so. Very impressed felt lighter than the 22ft boat from last year in terms of sway.

    -Mike
  • mick14mick14 Member Posts: 30
    That is flippin' awesome!!!!!!!!!! I tow a friend's boat too sometimes for him but not anywhere near 9500 lbs. I think I tow 6500-7000 or so. I thought you could do it.

    :shades:
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    No doubt that a Diesel would get better milage towing it, but the 5.6L engine in the Titan/Armada was real strong. There was a long incline on the NJTP over the Newark Bay Bridge, thought it would be killer. Trans dropped down to 3rd but didn't wind out to real high rpms. I'm guessing that the triple axle trailer made a big difference in that it carried most of the weight and kept the tounge at the perfect weight so as not to cause the rear of the truck to be too heavy or too light.

    -mike
  • haropharop Member Posts: 59
    Thats nice to know and looks great :)
    Just curious... Did you used "tow mode"?

    -haro
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Yeah I always use tow mode when towing, not sure what it does, if anything. I believe it keeps you in gears longer rather than hunting around. We'll see how it does when it's got fuel and some gear in it.

    -mike
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