Well good for you sleep real well knowing your headlights are ok...oh by the way honda bought back my 2008 accord this morning because of the headlight problem..mine did flicker every 20 seconds as always stated and I won the arbitration hearing. based on a safety defect with no fix. I have to go out of town for a few days but a lot more will be posted on here over the weekend. If you think honda is your friend think again. For those of you on here that supported my efforts thanks..for the others tune in over the weekend for the real story of how honda operates. Enjoy driving those cars with "normal characteristics".
I know little things like that can really annoy people. I don't think it would bother me, to be honest. How would I even know, unless someone complained about the lights from an ongoing motorist?
I once took Honda to arbitration for a squeak near the moonroof that they couldn't get rid of. I believe they gave me a $800 credit or something like that. I moved on after I got the credit . . I guess the ratttle didn't bother me as much afterward, or I thought, that is life.
I have heard the new Accords don't rattle like the older ones used to. Is that true?
My 96 and my 06 are eerily similar in the rattle department. I have one rattle per car. (Not bad for 191k and 46k miles, respectively).
The front pass. seat squeaks/rattles over pavement that isn't glass smooth if someone's not in it, and the seat is adjusted all the way back. Put someone in it, or scoot it forward, and it goes away.
I've got a new (admittedly minor) rattle in my 06 coming from either the driver's door, or the back driver's-side door, but I haven't figured it out yet. May have something in a door pocket I don't remember.
I love my 2008 Accord Sedan EXL V6. But hate the little squeaks here and there from interior noises. The glove box droops, plastic around the auto gear shifter makes creaking sounds. I can see why maybe people spend a little more money for a Lexus, or Infinity.
This sounds absolutely crazy, but when I get in my car, I often hear a word or phrase like "Hello" or "Are you ready?". Most of the time, the words or phrases happen when I first open the door, but they also occur while I am driving. At first, I thought my wife and friend were crazy, then I thought I was crazy, now many have heard it. It sounds like it comes from right under the radio in the center. I have everything but the navigator system and I was wondering if maybe it "talks" and a microchip is somehow being activated. I assure you I am sane and this is a serious question.
I recently bought a 2008 Honda Accord Coupe w/out satellite radio and had Tweeter (which is no longer in business) install a dash kit (Metra 99-7874). When the car heats up, either due to the heat on hot days or in winter due to the heater, the dash kit starts to sound junky, making a crackling sound, especially when the car goes over coarse pavement. I don't think it is the radio, but the dash kit which seems to be made of a plastic materia. Does anyone have this kind of problem and any advice on what i can do. Can't bring it back to Tweeter as it went out of business.
I have the 2008 EXL V6 coupe and I also had to have the brakes replaced at 15K miles. They did not charge me for it. I am now at 22K and they are telling me that my back brakes need to be replaced AGAIN. I don't see how 7k miles would wear out brakes. I live in the Phoenix, AZ area so it's not like I'm driving down steep inclines riding my brakes. Anyone else having this problem?
What dealer in Phoenix did not charge you for replacing your rear brakes? I had to dish out almost $400 for my 15,000 mile maintenance at Right Honda...
My 16 month old 2008 Accord Sedan EXL V6 simply turned off while going 35 mph. Would crank but not start. Towed to dealership and checked out. Timing belt "shredded". The cause was not exactly determined, but a series of failures led to the timing belt and, of course, to the valves being destroyed. A repair is underway. :confuse:
Anyone hear of such a potentially dangerous (good thing we had pulled off of I-95) mechanical failure on a car with less than 34,000 miles?
By the way -- no warning lights, no sounds out of the ordinary. In fact, it was running like a top, as usual, until it stopped.
I will be very interested to hear their diagnosis of why this happened--the belt on the Accord is supposed to be good for 100k miles before replacement, isn't it?
Is the tension on the belt maintained by oil pressure? If so, and if you haven't kept records of oil changes, then the dealership and/or the manufacturer may claim neglect, and decline to cover the cost of your repairs.
One more thought--could malfunctioning VCM have triggered this failure?
This is a serious flaw....... A slight misalignment of all pullies/sprockets that the timing belt goes around ( just like A/C, Alt., P/S belts) could cause fast wear of timing belt. A frozen timing belt tensioner (just like frozen outer belt tensioner) could cause destruction of timing belt.
A timing belt made out of some flawed process/material could also fall apart on its own under normal use.
Oil pressure, driving fast/slow has no effect on timing belt. Too hot or too cold climate could make the belt go sooner than its 105K mile service interval but not at 34K miles.
Just make sure this repair is well documented. If it happens again, it is clearly a case of an engine put together not quite right. Make sure service manager puts down on your service order as when the next timin belt change is due and stick to it.
Hopefully, it was something as simple as a bolt not being torqued enough, and the problem will not happen again. Let us know what they determine as the cause.
The dealership service department was directed by Honda to repair the damage.... the service dept has reservations about whether they can fully restore the motor to its proper compression. This afternoon we'll find out.
I'll try to get a straight answer about the sequence of failures and pass it on. Thanks.
According to the repair crew, the failure started with the water pump. That went and because of proximity shredded the timing belt which of course threw of the valves and bent them.
The dealership was directed by Honda to repair the works and they did. Runs like a top again.
No explanation why a year-and-a-half old water pump would go, except, "Fluke."
The current Accord is a very nice car. So is the current Camry. Unfortunately for Honda and Toyota, they are up against quite a few other very nice cars. Very nice is no longer good enough to guarantee continued domination of the market.
For several years running, the Accord's reliability has been matched or exceeded by the Ford Fusion and Hyundai Sonata, according to CR. Have these cars (built in Mexico and Alabama, respectively) been taking on too many Japanese vendors?
The truth of the matter is that reliability is a non-issue for most midsize cars now. Aside from the real bottom of the barrel (Chrysler), the current crop of Accord-class cars is an extraordinary group. This makes it harder for the Accord and Camry to differentiate themselves from competitors (Ford, Hyundai, GM) that wouldn't have been taken seriously five years ago.
What is D3? Is it third world? I know both Honda and Toyota have global suppliers that saves them tons of money and quality issues. In that area, they have a good system going.
Although we sold our 2008 Accord EX due to seat comfort issue, the car was well built. What Fusion, Sonata, and Malibu can NOT match is resale value of Accord or Camry. We sold the Accord $2K less than what I paid for 9K miles and 15 months later.
I sold my 1994 Accord (bought new) two year, 30K miles later $1000 less than what I bought it for.
Everyone is catching up with the reliability part, they still have a long way to go for the resale value part.
If you want to change cars every 2-3 years, Accords and Camrys are the best choices. If you keep the car 10-12 years, Fusion, Sonata, Malibu should be fine.
Lets give the new competitors a bit more time and see what they look like after 5 years and 60K. I hope you're right, but several times before I've heard this D3 is much better now, bought their products and been burned down the road. Its interesting how the new Mazda based Fusion looks good, while the Volvo based Taurus/500 has been mediocre. Shows there is no correlation between vehicle price and quality/reliability. The Opel based new GM offerings are a bit tight, but show promise. I think Hyundai needs a bit more work on suspension.
As for differentiating, I was waiting for a rental car awhile back at PHX and the Hertz person told me they actually got a few Accord's. Despite everyone dissing them as fugly, she said they never sit around long before someone rents them. Actually, you don't seem to get Fusions or Malibu's much as rentals any more. The rental hangar queens seem to be Hyundai/Kia and Nissan these days.
As for differentiating, I was waiting for a rental car awhile back at PHX and the Hertz person told me they actually got a few Accord's. Despite everyone dissing them as fugly, she said they never sit around long before someone rents them. Actually, you don't seem to get Fusions or Malibu's much as rentals any more. The rental hangar queens seem to be Hyundai/Kia and Nissan these days.
It might be a regional thing...most of the Ford rental cars have SYNC, which gives you the legally required hands-free interface for phone in most places. As a bonus, it has a USB iPod connection, something Honda still can't seem to get right (although at least they have a connection now, my '07 doesn't and no decent provision to add one).
I am probably going to by a 2008 Honda Accord Coupe that I have been leasing for 3 years (lease is up in July). I put $2 grand down and have been paying about $330 a month. Most sites I search say the value should be about $16 grand and that's what the dealership is offering me as well. Anyone have any differing opinions?
I am probably going to by a 2008 Honda Accord Coupe that I have been leasing for 3 years (lease is up in July). I put $2 grand down and have been paying about $330 a month. Most sites I search say the value should be about $16 grand and that's what the dealership is offering me as well. Anyone have any differing opinions?
Thanks for the help.
$330/month x 36 months = $11,880 +$2000 down = $13,880 that you have paid so far.
What is the residual value written into the lease? Compare that with what you are interested in paying.
And do the math. $13,880 + $16,000 = $29,880. It better be some loaded Accord at that price.
Comments
I once took Honda to arbitration for a squeak near the moonroof that they couldn't get rid of. I believe they gave me a $800 credit or something like that. I moved on after I got the credit . . I guess the ratttle didn't bother me as much afterward, or I thought, that is life.
I have heard the new Accords don't rattle like the older ones used to. Is that true?
The front pass. seat squeaks/rattles over pavement that isn't glass smooth if someone's not in it, and the seat is adjusted all the way back. Put someone in it, or scoot it forward, and it goes away.
I've got a new (admittedly minor) rattle in my 06 coming from either the driver's door, or the back driver's-side door, but I haven't figured it out yet. May have something in a door pocket I don't remember.
phrase like "Hello" or "Are you ready?". Most of the time, the words or phrases
happen when I first open the door, but they also occur while I am driving. At first,
I thought my wife and friend were crazy, then I thought I was crazy, now many
have heard it. It sounds like it comes from right under the radio in the center.
I have everything but the navigator system and I was wondering if maybe it "talks"
and a microchip is somehow being activated. I assure you I am sane and this is
a serious question.
Would crank but not start. Towed to dealership and checked out. Timing belt "shredded". The cause was not exactly determined, but a series of failures led to the timing belt and, of course, to the valves being destroyed. A repair is underway. :confuse:
Anyone hear of such a potentially dangerous (good thing we had pulled off of I-95) mechanical failure on a car with less than 34,000 miles?
By the way -- no warning lights, no sounds out of the ordinary. In fact, it was running like a top, as usual, until it stopped.
Is the tension on the belt maintained by oil pressure? If so, and if you haven't kept records of oil changes, then the dealership and/or the manufacturer may claim neglect, and decline to cover the cost of your repairs.
One more thought--could malfunctioning VCM have triggered this failure?
A timing belt made out of some flawed process/material could also fall apart on its own under normal use.
Oil pressure, driving fast/slow has no effect on timing belt. Too hot or too cold climate could make the belt go sooner than its 105K mile service interval but not at 34K miles.
Just make sure this repair is well documented. If it happens again, it is clearly a case of an engine put together not quite right. Make sure service manager puts down on your service order as when the next timin belt change is due and stick to it.
Joe
Thanks.
the service dept has reservations about whether they can fully restore the motor to its proper compression. This afternoon we'll find out.
I'll try to get a straight answer about the sequence of failures and pass it on. Thanks.
The dealership was directed by Honda to repair the works and they did. Runs like a top again.
No explanation why a year-and-a-half old water pump would go, except, "Fluke."
Glad it didn't Fluke-up at 80mph.
Meow. That's catty.
The current Accord is a very nice car. So is the current Camry. Unfortunately for Honda and Toyota, they are up against quite a few other very nice cars. Very nice is no longer good enough to guarantee continued domination of the market.
For several years running, the Accord's reliability has been matched or exceeded by the Ford Fusion and Hyundai Sonata, according to CR. Have these cars (built in Mexico and Alabama, respectively) been taking on too many Japanese vendors?
The truth of the matter is that reliability is a non-issue for most midsize cars now. Aside from the real bottom of the barrel (Chrysler), the current crop of Accord-class cars is an extraordinary group. This makes it harder for the Accord and Camry to differentiate themselves from competitors (Ford, Hyundai, GM) that wouldn't have been taken seriously five years ago.
Although we sold our 2008 Accord EX due to seat comfort issue, the car was well built. What Fusion, Sonata, and Malibu can NOT match is resale value of Accord or Camry. We sold the Accord $2K less than what I paid for 9K miles and 15 months later.
I sold my 1994 Accord (bought new) two year, 30K miles later $1000 less than what I bought it for.
Everyone is catching up with the reliability part, they still have a long way to go for the resale value part.
If you want to change cars every 2-3 years, Accords and Camrys are the best choices. If you keep the car 10-12 years, Fusion, Sonata, Malibu should be fine.
Joe
As Catbert says "PURRR -"
Lets give the new competitors a bit more time and see what they look like after 5 years and 60K. I hope you're right, but several times before I've heard this D3 is much better now, bought their products and been burned down the road. Its interesting how the new Mazda based Fusion looks good, while the Volvo based Taurus/500 has been mediocre. Shows there is no correlation between vehicle price and quality/reliability. The Opel based new GM offerings are a bit tight, but show promise. I think Hyundai needs a bit more work on suspension.
As for differentiating, I was waiting for a rental car awhile back at PHX and the Hertz person told me they actually got a few Accord's. Despite everyone dissing them as fugly, she said they never sit around long before someone rents them. Actually, you don't seem to get Fusions or Malibu's much as rentals any more. The rental hangar queens seem to be Hyundai/Kia and Nissan these days.
It might be a regional thing...most of the Ford rental cars have SYNC, which gives you the legally required hands-free interface for phone in most places. As a bonus, it has a USB iPod connection, something Honda still can't seem to get right (although at least they have a connection now, my '07 doesn't and no decent provision to add one).
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Honda-adds-437000-cars-to-apf-2428558261.html?x=0<b
I am probably going to by a 2008 Honda Accord Coupe that I have been leasing for 3 years (lease is up in July). I put $2 grand down and have been paying about $330 a month. Most sites I search say the value should be about $16 grand and that's what the dealership is offering me as well. Anyone have any differing opinions?
Thanks for the help.
I am probably going to by a 2008 Honda Accord Coupe that I have been leasing for 3 years (lease is up in July). I put $2 grand down and have been paying about $330 a month. Most sites I search say the value should be about $16 grand and that's what the dealership is offering me as well. Anyone have any differing opinions?
Thanks for the help.
$330/month x 36 months = $11,880 +$2000 down = $13,880 that you have paid so far.
What is the residual value written into the lease? Compare that with what you are interested in paying.
And do the math. $13,880 + $16,000 = $29,880. It better be some loaded Accord at that price.