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Based on my extensive experience, it begs for mercy. It feels strained and sounds metallic, especially under moderate to heavy throttle. My 1998 Accord's 150 HP I-4 puts it to shame in terms of sound and smoothness.
Stepping from an Altima 3.5 SE directly into an Accord Sedan confirms that it is at least 2 rungs down the handling scale and several rungs down the "fun to drive" scale. A great car for the silver -haired set it seems aimed at (average age of an Accord buyer is now 50 - meaning a whole lot more 60-somethings are buying this thing than 30-somethings) - but it offers nothing whasoever for the family car buyer with even the slightest enthusiast leanings.
Put it this way - if you're considering an Avalon, the Accord Sedan is a very credible (and less expensive) alternative.
Jaeger
You wrote "The difference is that black will hide most of the dirt better than ivory." That may be true, but my 2004 Accord's ivory leather interior still looks clean and great after over 42,000 miles. I've never done anything but about a twice per year vacuuming.
I favor the lighter, brighter, cheerier, cooler-in-summer interiors.
Blane's point is not lost out here on the left coast. My 6M coupe vid der Ivory cheer and brightness helps when the fog rolls in..................and this sailor knows fog.
best, ez....
As far as the gray goes, I like that it makes the interior sort-of two-tone (black and gray). The black is just...well...black! Lots of it, although it doesn't have the headliner like you talked about in the 92!
We had a maroon 1993 Accord, and it came with the gray interior (best car we ever owned). Our "Rosewood" Accord (brownish gray outside) had the all-red interior, but dad totaled it in a rainstorm when it was only months old
Also a black exterior is very hot. Just place your hand on a black car in the sun which is next to a white car. In the summer you probably won't be able to keep your hand on the vehicle.
Also black exterior shows dirt almost immediately after leaving the car wash. Light colors especially silver matellic almost show no dirt except when exposed to mud, etc.
I live in Texas, my 1998 Accord has black exterior (gray interior). My 2006 TL has silver exterior and black interior. And while I could have picked any exterior color on the TL (I like silver in that car because it helps bring out the character lines), but black interior with carbon-fiber/aluminum trim was must have.
We just picked up a Polished Metal over Black Cloth LX, this will be our 5th car with a black cloth interior. We really prefer the look and it "looks" cleaner longer in my opinion. BUT, I live in Vermont so there aren't a lot of super hot summer days.
The last time I was a regular Town Hall poster was 1998, is isellhondas still around? Happy to be back.
Any fun stuff I should know about? (08 LX 5spd)
thanks.
Thoughts?
Connect your ipod with a Male to Male headphone type cord that is plugged into your cars aux input, and turn your ipod on, then adjust the volume to halfway, and it will play, but you will have to control the music via the ipod, not the actual stereo system.
Good luck!
You got the right cable, the male to male cord, that looks like headphone plugs on both ends? Well that will be the only cord to work anyway
I'm buying the 08 Accord Coupe this week, which by the way, makes the Altima coupe look like a very old car. But as far as the Sedans go, while the Accord is a bit bigger, it exudes class and sophistication. While the Altima is a boring piece of dred with very absurd HUGE tail lamps. The Altima styling is limp and gets lost in traffic while the heads snap when an Accord fly's by.
The very very cheap, dull looking Altima interior (always a sore thumb for Nissan)pales to the upper crust sophisticated cabin of the Accord. The honda just looks and feels so much better. You feel better just getting in the door.
While the CVT of the Altima has a bit more umph during take off, I'll take feeling the gear changes any day over the CVT that has more problems (rattles, noise) than you can shake a stick at. Go to any car forum and read all the complaints about the CVT. Ive driven the Accord and Altima, and IMO.......its not even close. The Accords style, cabin, powertrain, fit and finish, reliability, resale...is head and heels better than the tin can, cheap Altima.
The car had great pickup and handled wonderfully. What did disappoint me was the fact that the leather seats were not all that comfortable. My wife has a '99 Acura CL and even after all these years, the seating surface are still rather plush and comfortable. I thought I read somewhere that Honda was making their seats more "European like". Have not sat in 2006 or 2007 to see if there is a noticeable difference. Would appreciate any feedback from someone who has sat in both.
Odd thing was my wife liked the feel of the Honda seats comapred to her CL's.
2 days ago, I came to a Honda dealer in SF. The sale manager brought out this car to show me. Again and again, I checked it and rechecked in and out closely and very carefully on every single smallest item. It's truly a piece of state of the art, piece of fine art and also a piece of great engineering. I will not need to test drive it. Just buy it. Period.
In the other room, there is a guy who keeps complaining on all kinds of problems with the '08 Accord V6 "he bought" (???). I am strongly suspecting that guy works for Toyota, Nissan or other competitors to throw big lying SH. into these forums. He just needs to return that car to the dealership to get his money back. I believe they will be more than happy to pay him back 200% of whatever he paid for his imaginary...SH. FYI, I am currently having 4 Accords, 3 of them are V6 EX. So, I know Honda's quality.
Connect the cables securely on both ends.
Turn on the iPod and car stereo.
Make sure the volume is up on both.
Make sure an audio track is actually playing on the iPod.
Make sure the radio mode is set to AUX.
When we listen to the radio or CD's our volume rarely breaks 10.
Not an issue really, but something to note for new owners for sure.
We did about 100 miles though the lovely state of Vermont today. Car was REALLY nice to drive, never once fidgeted in my seat either (like in my Mazda6), very comfortable and supportive.
Now that I'm used to the clutch, shifting is great. It's weird how the electronic throttle "hangs" the revs though, I need to work on my shifting technique. Took it up to about 5k rpms today, the power builds quickly up there but I'm trying to take it really easy for the first 500-600 miles. :P
I've decided to swap the stock Dunlops for a set of same-size Nokian WR's right away, about the only true all-season tire out there. With the sale of my Mazda's snows, and hopefully some credit for my OEM tires, it should be pretty much a wash moneywise and I'll feel a lot better driving this winter.
...We did about 100 miles though the lovely state of Vermont today......
Now that I'm used to the clutch, shifting is great..................
........what sort of fuel mileage does one get motoring thru the lovely state of Vermont?
You've 4 cylindros...........are you getting 30 - 35?
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I'm hopeful of 30mpg in combined driving once she's broken in. I do nearly 20k miles a year, 50-50 rural VT 2 lane highway and relatively relaxed "city" driving. My V6 Mazda6 did that in a regular 23-24 mpg over the 19 months I had it.
Does anyone know if this mirror and the mount for it will fit the new 2008s?
There info only mentions up to 2006 and I don't know if the mirror mounts are on a 2008 are any different than a 2006-2007.
The bad thing about installing outside temp gauges is that you will have to fish wire from the gauge to wherever you mount the outside temperature sensor. So, factory installed would have been best, but it may still be worth installing rather than having to pay for an EX-L when you don't want leather.
I think any stereo shop should be able to install it.
If I buy an EX, I'd probably get new speakers and have them do all the installation in one trip.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-ACCORD-COMPASS-TEMPERATURE-REAR-VIEW-MIRROR- - - - - - - - - - - - -NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33699QQihZ018QQitemZ280173197257
I am also a Accord lover (owned 3) as well as Mazda- kind of amazed though that anyone would advocate buying a brand new design without even driving it ??
Reason is I have done extensive reseraches and participated in many different discussion forums focusing on this new car. Therefore, I know exactly what I want, strengths and weaknesses of this car including smallest single component of the car. I will not make hasty decision without sufficient researches and good judgment.
Not sure how to interpret that statement. Does that mean that the bumper cover was damaged, as well as a whole bunch of stuff behind it? So rear quarter panels, trunklid, etc was all intact....and it is all internal damage to the tune of $6500?
From the manual Page 83:
Auto Door Unlocking
The auto door unlocking feature
has five possible settings:
Make sure the shift lever is in the
Park (P) position (A/T vehicles).
Turn the ignition switch to the ON
(II) position, and open the driver’s
door.
Push and hold the rear of the
master door lock switch on the
driver’s door. You will hear a click,
and after about 5 seconds, you will
hear another click.
Release the switch, and within 5
seconds, turn the ignition switch
to the LOCK (0) position.
The driver’s door unlocks
whenever you turn the ignition
switch to the ACCESSORY (I)
position.
All doors unlock when you move
the shift lever to the Park (P)
position (A/T vehicles).
the driver’s door
unlocks when you move the shift
lever to the Park (P) position.
This is the default setting on M/T
vehicles.
All doors unlock whenever you
turn the ignition switch to the
ACCESSORY (I) position.
I was quoted $269 total with $1000 down which is for MV fees and 1st month's payment. This is for the Accord LX with 12,000 miles. Which for me is good, because I own an 2003 Altima and it only has 39,400 on it so I don't need more than 12,000.
But anyway, can you tell me if I'm getting a good deal. From reading some of the board, it sounds like it is. By the way, I am in New Jersey. Oh and another thing, I do not understand the Rate Lease Money Factor and the CAP., Would appreciate if you can explain that to me.
Second, I'm not thrilled with the I4 engine. Of course, this is my first automatic transmission - and perhaps that is the problem. Also, this is the biggest car I have ever driven with a 4cyl. But whatever the reason, the I4 engine seems gutless when the transmission is in overdrive. Even on very slight hills, the transmission shifts to 4th to maintain 80mph. The transmission does not hunt for gears and the shift is impressively smooth. But, it shifts almost every time. It helps immensely to not use cruise control. I guess I would expect my car to maintain 80, on cruise control, without having to shift so often. I take pride in being a smooth driver. If you ride with me, you shouldn't know I'm driving 80-90mph. This engine just doesn't allow smoothness. . . . you have to put your foot in the throttle, allow the transmission to shift down and race the engine to get much meaningful horse power. The car feels like it is working fairly hard to maintain 80mph. [Although it may have been the added control of a manual transmission, I swear my 98, 4cyl. Accord had as much low-end umph as this car has.]
Still love the interior and the handling of my new car! But, honestly, I'm wondering if I might have been happier spending the extra $4k and parking an 07 TL in my garage :confuse:
As far as transmission logic goes, that’s the way grade logic works. Yours is an I-4, it is the same in my TL. Even though the car has enough thrust to tackle low speed driving (under 41 mph) and minor hills, it will keep things going in fourth gear for more responsiveness. Perhaps also useful when the car is loaded, as it prevents gear hunting.
I’m also surprised that you’re having issues with the engine at 80 mph. In my 1998 (which will be rated somewhere around 140-145 HP/145 lb-ft under new standard, weighs about 3200 lb and has a 4-speed auto) feels confident even at 80 mph. It is easy to go 90 mph and not feel it (and it happened this morning). I was fortunate to see some cars braking in front of me at a distance, and there was a cop parked on the side, so I gave a glance to my speedometer, and glad that I did.
That car is rock solid (in terms of engine, suspension and steering) at speeds above 75 mph. Unless you were having to deal with strong winds, I find it hard to believe that the new Accord wouldn’t be the same or better. And I live in one of the windiest cities in the USA (its not the windy city, but the real windy city Dallas).
With a number of vehicles using a 5-speed auto and an I4, the typical RPM at 70 is around 1800 to 1900 RPM. An I4 will be "gutless" at that RPM level - it's normal. Unless you have a torquey V8 turning that low of an RPM, you can't expect any usable torque even with a very efficient torque converter in a conventional automatic transmission, or grade logic for that matter.