Based on my extensive experience, it begs for mercy. It feels strained and sounds metallic, especially under moderate to heavy throttle. My 1998 Accord's 150 HP I-4 puts it to shame in terms of sound and smoothness.
Where can I find the Manufacturers suggested maintenance/service for a 2004 Accord coupe at 60,000 miles? I don't want to pay for extras at the dealer.
Nissmazlover, I agree with your assessment completely. The Accord has been transformed into a bloated luxobarge and it feels like it. Just look at how it handles compared to the Altima Sedan (both as tested by Edmunds). The Altima posted a solid 67.0 mph through the slalom - faster than the supposedly sporty Accord Coupe, and WAY faster than the "I'm-not-even-pretending-to-be-sporty-anymore" Accord Sedan at a lethargic 61.8. The Altima was awarded the highest subjective handling rating of "EXCELLENT". The Accord Sedan couldn't even manage a "GOOD". Best it could do was "AVERAGE".
Stepping from an Altima 3.5 SE directly into an Accord Sedan confirms that it is at least 2 rungs down the handling scale and several rungs down the "fun to drive" scale. A great car for the silver -haired set it seems aimed at (average age of an Accord buyer is now 50 - meaning a whole lot more 60-somethings are buying this thing than 30-somethings) - but it offers nothing whasoever for the family car buyer with even the slightest enthusiast leanings.
Put it this way - if you're considering an Avalon, the Accord Sedan is a very credible (and less expensive) alternative.
You wrote "The difference is that black will hide most of the dirt better than ivory." That may be true, but my 2004 Accord's ivory leather interior still looks clean and great after over 42,000 miles. I've never done anything but about a twice per year vacuuming.
I favor the lighter, brighter, cheerier, cooler-in-summer interiors.
My Accord's ivory interior leather looks great and clean after 60K+ miles. Key is keeping it clean and do not eat inside car. Black leather interior looks sporty. I noticed 80% plus of exterior color of '08 Accord are conservative color. Honda may aim to the middle-aged customers to sell this model. I love all those colors except the flashy red. The silver is OK too. The other colors are all acceptable to me.
...I favor the lighter, brighter, cheerier, cooler-in-summer interiors.
Blane's point is not lost out here on the left coast. My 6M coupe vid der Ivory cheer and brightness helps when the fog rolls in..................and this sailor knows fog.
Since she totaled her Subaru recently, my wife just picked up her 2008 Accord EX-L with a "lighter, brighter, cheerier, cooler-in-summer interior" last night.
Great info ! Adds a few more points to Honda's reputation as an engineering (efficiency?)-driven company. My 03 V-6 is just slightly more gas-guzzling than my wife's 03 4-I, as a case in point. Honda apparently figured out that DOHC's benefits won't be realized in normal driving, so why bother with the added weight and complexity.
My Ivory leather is nice, but I have to clean it a lot, and shoe marks on the ivory plastic trim are hard to get off. Black is good to hide the dirt, but just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's not there. Black can be as dangerous as McDonalds coffee :surprise: if the sun shines on it all day. It seems the Gray interior would be the best in terms of not showing the marks so much, and not getting as hot as the Black. I find the Ivory looks great, with the two tone colors. Black looks more sporty. The Gray, although the best for keeping it clean, just seems like too much of one color. I remember test driving a Red Accord in 92, and the outside was great looking, but the inside was all Red (even the head liner) and it was just too much.
The Gray, although the best for keeping it clean, just seems like too much of one color. I remember test driving a Red Accord in 92, and the outside was great looking, but the inside was all Red (even the head liner) and it was just too much.
As far as the gray goes, I like that it makes the interior sort-of two-tone (black and gray). The black is just...well...black! Lots of it, although it doesn't have the headliner like you talked about in the 92!
We had a maroon 1993 Accord, and it came with the gray interior (best car we ever owned). Our "Rosewood" Accord (brownish gray outside) had the all-red interior, but dad totaled it in a rainstorm when it was only months old . DUH DAD!!! Haha. He was unhurt, luckily.
The Maroon color in the Rosewood Accord (92) was much better, and the head liner and everything above the dash was a different color, so that was cool. The Red Accord I drove had Red everything. It was a brighter red, and it was on the head liner and everything else. I couldn't handle that much bright red.
A black interior will be very hot in the summer, especially upon entering the vehicle after it has been sitting out in the sun for several hour or even 15 or more minutes. The hot house effect is very effective.
Also a black exterior is very hot. Just place your hand on a black car in the sun which is next to a white car. In the summer you probably won't be able to keep your hand on the vehicle.
Also black exterior shows dirt almost immediately after leaving the car wash. Light colors especially silver matellic almost show no dirt except when exposed to mud, etc.
I think the issue around black and hot is overrated. OTOH, I think black is hot!
I live in Texas, my 1998 Accord has black exterior (gray interior). My 2006 TL has silver exterior and black interior. And while I could have picked any exterior color on the TL (I like silver in that car because it helps bring out the character lines), but black interior with carbon-fiber/aluminum trim was must have.
From my experience, the best exterior color is brown (Rosewood Brown) because it is the color of dirt. All you really notice is the lack of shine. My present car is Black, and yes it gets very hot. Impossible to wash a Black car in direct sunlight, because it will dry faster than you can rinse, and the water spots will be almost permanent. Of course when it is clean, it looks great.
We test drove one with a tan interior and it already looked dirty with 16 miles fo test drives on it.
We just picked up a Polished Metal over Black Cloth LX, this will be our 5th car with a black cloth interior. We really prefer the look and it "looks" cleaner longer in my opinion. BUT, I live in Vermont so there aren't a lot of super hot summer days.
The last time I was a regular Town Hall poster was 1998, is isellhondas still around? Happy to be back.
Does the 08 Accord have any interesting "easter eggs?" Hidden features within the radio controls, odo readout or whatever? Lost of cars seem to have these now, certain button pushes access extra digital readouts or whatever, VW is sort of "famous" for this.
Alright, 3rd question in a row... any trick to getting the stereo to "see" an iPod? We connected my wife's iPod to the jack under the armrest, pushed AUX and it's not playing at all. No ideas from the manual.
Well, When hooking an ipod up to your ipod, your stereo system will not recognize it as a device, rather it will as an auxilary input.
Connect your ipod with a Male to Male headphone type cord that is plugged into your cars aux input, and turn your ipod on, then adjust the volume to halfway, and it will play, but you will have to control the music via the ipod, not the actual stereo system.
bvd, that's what we are expecting, and what we did, but it just wasn't working, maybe we have a bad cable? Got it from best Buy and not a cheapie either ($13). We'll try again tomorrow.
hmmm, well, check your ipod, check the connection, check your stereo, literally it should be that simple. If it still does not work then, you need to take that to a dealer, and show them.
You got the right cable, the male to male cord, that looks like headphone plugs on both ends? Well that will be the only cord to work anyway
opinions are like butt cheeks...everyone has one. But for the life of me, I got a complete different opinion of the new Accord. Mentioning the Altima with the Accord is like comparing a luxury limo to a ford pinto. The Accord has it all over the cheesy, cheap looking Altima.
I'm buying the 08 Accord Coupe this week, which by the way, makes the Altima coupe look like a very old car. But as far as the Sedans go, while the Accord is a bit bigger, it exudes class and sophistication. While the Altima is a boring piece of dred with very absurd HUGE tail lamps. The Altima styling is limp and gets lost in traffic while the heads snap when an Accord fly's by.
The very very cheap, dull looking Altima interior (always a sore thumb for Nissan)pales to the upper crust sophisticated cabin of the Accord. The honda just looks and feels so much better. You feel better just getting in the door.
While the CVT of the Altima has a bit more umph during take off, I'll take feeling the gear changes any day over the CVT that has more problems (rattles, noise) than you can shake a stick at. Go to any car forum and read all the complaints about the CVT. Ive driven the Accord and Altima, and IMO.......its not even close. The Accords style, cabin, powertrain, fit and finish, reliability, resale...is head and heels better than the tin can, cheap Altima.
Took an EX-L V6 for an extended test drive yesterday to see if I could notice any VCM issues. Must admit I was pleasantly surprised when I noticed very little. I tried to pay attention to see if there were a sudden surge especially when the ECO light cam on. Noticed an ever so slight difference but nothing that was earth shatterng.
The car had great pickup and handled wonderfully. What did disappoint me was the fact that the leather seats were not all that comfortable. My wife has a '99 Acura CL and even after all these years, the seating surface are still rather plush and comfortable. I thought I read somewhere that Honda was making their seats more "European like". Have not sat in 2006 or 2007 to see if there is a noticeable difference. Would appreciate any feedback from someone who has sat in both.
Odd thing was my wife liked the feel of the Honda seats comapred to her CL's.
If one likes power (a bit more HP) and fast acceleration he/ she goes with Altima. I am going to buy a '08 Accord V6 sedan EX-L w/ Navi soon, not the Altima or Camry, etc. I look at the long run overall value and resale value of the Accord.
2 days ago, I came to a Honda dealer in SF. The sale manager brought out this car to show me. Again and again, I checked it and rechecked in and out closely and very carefully on every single smallest item. It's truly a piece of state of the art, piece of fine art and also a piece of great engineering. I will not need to test drive it. Just buy it. Period.
In the other room, there is a guy who keeps complaining on all kinds of problems with the '08 Accord V6 "he bought" (???). I am strongly suspecting that guy works for Toyota, Nissan or other competitors to throw big lying SH. into these forums. He just needs to return that car to the dealership to get his money back. I believe they will be more than happy to pay him back 200% of whatever he paid for his imaginary...SH. FYI, I am currently having 4 Accords, 3 of them are V6 EX. So, I know Honda's quality.
Hey, welcome back! As soon as I saw your prior post in th PP discussion I recognized your name and wondered where you had been - glad to have you part of the community again!
I just tried hooking my iPod up to my 08 CRV radio using AUX input. It didn't work at first but I played around with the radio modes and it worked fine. You have to make sure the volume on both the radio and the iPod are turned up midway and experiment with mode and other buttons on the radio. I forget what I did exactly and the Accord radio may be different anyway. Chances are it's not the cable.
You shouldn't have to "play around" with random buttons to get it to work. It should be straightforward.
Connect the cables securely on both ends. Turn on the iPod and car stereo. Make sure the volume is up on both. Make sure an audio track is actually playing on the iPod. Make sure the radio mode is set to AUX.
It was a volume issue, with the iPod at about 50%, the car volume needs to being the 20's to hear it (we never tried it that high yesterday).
When we listen to the radio or CD's our volume rarely breaks 10.
Not an issue really, but something to note for new owners for sure.
We did about 100 miles though the lovely state of Vermont today. Car was REALLY nice to drive, never once fidgeted in my seat either (like in my Mazda6), very comfortable and supportive.
Now that I'm used to the clutch, shifting is great. It's weird how the electronic throttle "hangs" the revs though, I need to work on my shifting technique. Took it up to about 5k rpms today, the power builds quickly up there but I'm trying to take it really easy for the first 500-600 miles. :P
I've decided to swap the stock Dunlops for a set of same-size Nokian WR's right away, about the only true all-season tire out there. With the sale of my Mazda's snows, and hopefully some credit for my OEM tires, it should be pretty much a wash moneywise and I'll feel a lot better driving this winter.
Not sure yet, I'm at 3/4 of a tank on the gauge and have done about 150 miles. Gas gauges are rarely linear though. This is the first 150 miles on the car. Unless I'm mistaken, my LX doesn't have a MPG meter of any sort (I know the CRV we test drove did)
I'm hopeful of 30mpg in combined driving once she's broken in. I do nearly 20k miles a year, 50-50 rural VT 2 lane highway and relatively relaxed "city" driving. My V6 Mazda6 did that in a regular 23-24 mpg over the 19 months I had it.
thanks Pat, glad to be back. I think I was buying my new 98 Passat the last time I posted regularly here. I've had that car and 2 Mazda's since and thought the new Accord was a good time to come back to the fold. :shades:
An outside temperature gauge only comes factory installed on EX-L models and the dealer accessory that shares the display with the trip odometer (and you have to keep swapping back and forth to switch from miles to temp) is only for the 2003-2007 models anyway.
Does anyone know if this mirror and the mount for it will fit the new 2008s? There info only mentions up to 2006 and I don't know if the mirror mounts are on a 2008 are any different than a 2006-2007. The bad thing about installing outside temp gauges is that you will have to fish wire from the gauge to wherever you mount the outside temperature sensor. So, factory installed would have been best, but it may still be worth installing rather than having to pay for an EX-L when you don't want leather.
I think any stereo shop should be able to install it. If I buy an EX, I'd probably get new speakers and have them do all the installation in one trip.
"I will not need to test drive it. Just buy it. Period. "
I am also a Accord lover (owned 3) as well as Mazda- kind of amazed though that anyone would advocate buying a brand new design without even driving it ??
Reason is I have done extensive reseraches and participated in many different discussion forums focusing on this new car. Therefore, I know exactly what I want, strengths and weaknesses of this car including smallest single component of the car. I will not make hasty decision without sufficient researches and good judgment.
The seats in my 08 V6-L are definitely firm (typical European design) and you sit on them not in them. On a long ride, most people find a firm seat to be more comfortable. It will be interesting to see if the seats soften up a bit with age. Comfort is very subjective and seat design will always be a tradeoff.
While traveling at night at 65+ in my two week old V6-L/Navi, had a pickup truck pulling a long stake trailer pull across both exit lanes directly in front of me. I slammed on the brakes and the car stopped in what felt to be an impossibly short distance with no excitement or harsh body/suspension movements. Unfortunately, the guy in the older Acura behind me didn't and totaled the front end of his car. Although the damage to my car was $6500, the only visible evidence will be a new bumper cover. The ability to absorb and dissipate energy is very impressive for this vehicle.
Oh! sorry, Foster. Driving at night or in foggy condition is dangerous. My brand-new '05 Accord hybrid also got hit in the rear when my son drove it years ago. Thanks for good info. of the brakes.
Although the damage to my car was $6500, the only visible evidence will be a new bumper cover
Not sure how to interpret that statement. Does that mean that the bumper cover was damaged, as well as a whole bunch of stuff behind it? So rear quarter panels, trunklid, etc was all intact....and it is all internal damage to the tune of $6500?
Anyone know if there is a way to program the car to either NOT have the door locks automatically lock or to have it automatically unlock ALL 4 doors when the car is turned off?
Auto Door Unlocking The auto door unlocking feature has five possible settings: Make sure the shift lever is in the Park (P) position (A/T vehicles). Turn the ignition switch to the ON (II) position, and open the driver’s door. Push and hold the rear of the master door lock switch on the driver’s door. You will hear a click, and after about 5 seconds, you will hear another click. Release the switch, and within 5 seconds, turn the ignition switch to the LOCK (0) position. The driver’s door unlocks whenever you turn the ignition switch to the ACCESSORY (I) position. All doors unlock when you move the shift lever to the Park (P) position (A/T vehicles). the driver’s door unlocks when you move the shift lever to the Park (P) position. This is the default setting on M/T vehicles. All doors unlock whenever you turn the ignition switch to the ACCESSORY (I) position.
Hi, I've never leased before and I was wondering if I'm getting a good deal.
I was quoted $269 total with $1000 down which is for MV fees and 1st month's payment. This is for the Accord LX with 12,000 miles. Which for me is good, because I own an 2003 Altima and it only has 39,400 on it so I don't need more than 12,000.
But anyway, can you tell me if I'm getting a good deal. From reading some of the board, it sounds like it is. By the way, I am in New Jersey. Oh and another thing, I do not understand the Rate Lease Money Factor and the CAP., Would appreciate if you can explain that to me.
Another long trip this weekend in my 08 EX-L, I4 with auto tranny. After the trip, I feel somewhat compelled to slightly revise my prior options about the car. I like it . . I don't love it! I have nearly 3000 miles on the odometer now and two things are becoming apparent. First, road noise really is an issue. I wouldn't say the problem is unacceptable. But, the amount of wind noise which enters the cabin is not consistent with the quality of the rest of the car. It definitely is a low-point!! The doors simply do not seal well enough. A skate-boarder rode past me yesterday at an intersection and I noticed that I could easily hear his little pops and bumps as he rode past. Above 70mph, my "upgraded" stereo starts to loose audio fidelity as it tries to fight with exterior wind noise. I dont' think it is a reason to not buy this car. But, as I drive it more and more on long trips, I'm disappointed
Second, I'm not thrilled with the I4 engine. Of course, this is my first automatic transmission - and perhaps that is the problem. Also, this is the biggest car I have ever driven with a 4cyl. But whatever the reason, the I4 engine seems gutless when the transmission is in overdrive. Even on very slight hills, the transmission shifts to 4th to maintain 80mph. The transmission does not hunt for gears and the shift is impressively smooth. But, it shifts almost every time. It helps immensely to not use cruise control. I guess I would expect my car to maintain 80, on cruise control, without having to shift so often. I take pride in being a smooth driver. If you ride with me, you shouldn't know I'm driving 80-90mph. This engine just doesn't allow smoothness. . . . you have to put your foot in the throttle, allow the transmission to shift down and race the engine to get much meaningful horse power. The car feels like it is working fairly hard to maintain 80mph. [Although it may have been the added control of a manual transmission, I swear my 98, 4cyl. Accord had as much low-end umph as this car has.]
Still love the interior and the handling of my new car! But, honestly, I'm wondering if I might have been happier spending the extra $4k and parking an 07 TL in my garage :confuse:
Although I can’t comment on wind noise, but am surprised because even my 1998 Accord suppresses it very well. It takes strong wind gusts to make their presence felt. Road noise is another issue (again, largely addressed via use of softer compound tires).
As far as transmission logic goes, that’s the way grade logic works. Yours is an I-4, it is the same in my TL. Even though the car has enough thrust to tackle low speed driving (under 41 mph) and minor hills, it will keep things going in fourth gear for more responsiveness. Perhaps also useful when the car is loaded, as it prevents gear hunting.
I’m also surprised that you’re having issues with the engine at 80 mph. In my 1998 (which will be rated somewhere around 140-145 HP/145 lb-ft under new standard, weighs about 3200 lb and has a 4-speed auto) feels confident even at 80 mph. It is easy to go 90 mph and not feel it (and it happened this morning). I was fortunate to see some cars braking in front of me at a distance, and there was a cop parked on the side, so I gave a glance to my speedometer, and glad that I did.
That car is rock solid (in terms of engine, suspension and steering) at speeds above 75 mph. Unless you were having to deal with strong winds, I find it hard to believe that the new Accord wouldn’t be the same or better. And I live in one of the windiest cities in the USA (its not the windy city, but the real windy city Dallas).
In the never ending quest for fuel mileage, a 5-speed automatic provides excellent fuel mileage, but you can't change the law of physics. What does your tach read at 80MPH in the OD gear? Check the torque curve of the I4 engine at that RPM - it's probably not at its maxima, thus your transmission will downshift into 4th for even a slight grade requiring acceleration under cruise control applications.
With a number of vehicles using a 5-speed auto and an I4, the typical RPM at 70 is around 1800 to 1900 RPM. An I4 will be "gutless" at that RPM level - it's normal. Unless you have a torquey V8 turning that low of an RPM, you can't expect any usable torque even with a very efficient torque converter in a conventional automatic transmission, or grade logic for that matter.
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Based on my extensive experience, it begs for mercy. It feels strained and sounds metallic, especially under moderate to heavy throttle. My 1998 Accord's 150 HP I-4 puts it to shame in terms of sound and smoothness.
Stepping from an Altima 3.5 SE directly into an Accord Sedan confirms that it is at least 2 rungs down the handling scale and several rungs down the "fun to drive" scale. A great car for the silver -haired set it seems aimed at (average age of an Accord buyer is now 50 - meaning a whole lot more 60-somethings are buying this thing than 30-somethings) - but it offers nothing whasoever for the family car buyer with even the slightest enthusiast leanings.
Put it this way - if you're considering an Avalon, the Accord Sedan is a very credible (and less expensive) alternative.
Jaeger
You wrote "The difference is that black will hide most of the dirt better than ivory." That may be true, but my 2004 Accord's ivory leather interior still looks clean and great after over 42,000 miles. I've never done anything but about a twice per year vacuuming.
I favor the lighter, brighter, cheerier, cooler-in-summer interiors.
Blane's point is not lost out here on the left coast. My 6M coupe vid der Ivory cheer and brightness helps when the fog rolls in..................and this sailor knows fog.
best, ez....
As far as the gray goes, I like that it makes the interior sort-of two-tone (black and gray). The black is just...well...black! Lots of it, although it doesn't have the headliner like you talked about in the 92!
We had a maroon 1993 Accord, and it came with the gray interior (best car we ever owned). Our "Rosewood" Accord (brownish gray outside) had the all-red interior, but dad totaled it in a rainstorm when it was only months old
Also a black exterior is very hot. Just place your hand on a black car in the sun which is next to a white car. In the summer you probably won't be able to keep your hand on the vehicle.
Also black exterior shows dirt almost immediately after leaving the car wash. Light colors especially silver matellic almost show no dirt except when exposed to mud, etc.
I live in Texas, my 1998 Accord has black exterior (gray interior). My 2006 TL has silver exterior and black interior. And while I could have picked any exterior color on the TL (I like silver in that car because it helps bring out the character lines), but black interior with carbon-fiber/aluminum trim was must have.
We just picked up a Polished Metal over Black Cloth LX, this will be our 5th car with a black cloth interior. We really prefer the look and it "looks" cleaner longer in my opinion. BUT, I live in Vermont so there aren't a lot of super hot summer days.
The last time I was a regular Town Hall poster was 1998, is isellhondas still around? Happy to be back.
Any fun stuff I should know about? (08 LX 5spd)
thanks.
Thoughts?
Connect your ipod with a Male to Male headphone type cord that is plugged into your cars aux input, and turn your ipod on, then adjust the volume to halfway, and it will play, but you will have to control the music via the ipod, not the actual stereo system.
Good luck!
You got the right cable, the male to male cord, that looks like headphone plugs on both ends? Well that will be the only cord to work anyway
I'm buying the 08 Accord Coupe this week, which by the way, makes the Altima coupe look like a very old car. But as far as the Sedans go, while the Accord is a bit bigger, it exudes class and sophistication. While the Altima is a boring piece of dred with very absurd HUGE tail lamps. The Altima styling is limp and gets lost in traffic while the heads snap when an Accord fly's by.
The very very cheap, dull looking Altima interior (always a sore thumb for Nissan)pales to the upper crust sophisticated cabin of the Accord. The honda just looks and feels so much better. You feel better just getting in the door.
While the CVT of the Altima has a bit more umph during take off, I'll take feeling the gear changes any day over the CVT that has more problems (rattles, noise) than you can shake a stick at. Go to any car forum and read all the complaints about the CVT. Ive driven the Accord and Altima, and IMO.......its not even close. The Accords style, cabin, powertrain, fit and finish, reliability, resale...is head and heels better than the tin can, cheap Altima.
The car had great pickup and handled wonderfully. What did disappoint me was the fact that the leather seats were not all that comfortable. My wife has a '99 Acura CL and even after all these years, the seating surface are still rather plush and comfortable. I thought I read somewhere that Honda was making their seats more "European like". Have not sat in 2006 or 2007 to see if there is a noticeable difference. Would appreciate any feedback from someone who has sat in both.
Odd thing was my wife liked the feel of the Honda seats comapred to her CL's.
2 days ago, I came to a Honda dealer in SF. The sale manager brought out this car to show me. Again and again, I checked it and rechecked in and out closely and very carefully on every single smallest item. It's truly a piece of state of the art, piece of fine art and also a piece of great engineering. I will not need to test drive it. Just buy it. Period.
In the other room, there is a guy who keeps complaining on all kinds of problems with the '08 Accord V6 "he bought" (???). I am strongly suspecting that guy works for Toyota, Nissan or other competitors to throw big lying SH. into these forums. He just needs to return that car to the dealership to get his money back. I believe they will be more than happy to pay him back 200% of whatever he paid for his imaginary...SH. FYI, I am currently having 4 Accords, 3 of them are V6 EX. So, I know Honda's quality.
Connect the cables securely on both ends.
Turn on the iPod and car stereo.
Make sure the volume is up on both.
Make sure an audio track is actually playing on the iPod.
Make sure the radio mode is set to AUX.
When we listen to the radio or CD's our volume rarely breaks 10.
Not an issue really, but something to note for new owners for sure.
We did about 100 miles though the lovely state of Vermont today. Car was REALLY nice to drive, never once fidgeted in my seat either (like in my Mazda6), very comfortable and supportive.
Now that I'm used to the clutch, shifting is great. It's weird how the electronic throttle "hangs" the revs though, I need to work on my shifting technique. Took it up to about 5k rpms today, the power builds quickly up there but I'm trying to take it really easy for the first 500-600 miles. :P
I've decided to swap the stock Dunlops for a set of same-size Nokian WR's right away, about the only true all-season tire out there. With the sale of my Mazda's snows, and hopefully some credit for my OEM tires, it should be pretty much a wash moneywise and I'll feel a lot better driving this winter.
...We did about 100 miles though the lovely state of Vermont today......
Now that I'm used to the clutch, shifting is great..................
........what sort of fuel mileage does one get motoring thru the lovely state of Vermont?
You've 4 cylindros...........are you getting 30 - 35?
..ez..
I'm hopeful of 30mpg in combined driving once she's broken in. I do nearly 20k miles a year, 50-50 rural VT 2 lane highway and relatively relaxed "city" driving. My V6 Mazda6 did that in a regular 23-24 mpg over the 19 months I had it.
Does anyone know if this mirror and the mount for it will fit the new 2008s?
There info only mentions up to 2006 and I don't know if the mirror mounts are on a 2008 are any different than a 2006-2007.
The bad thing about installing outside temp gauges is that you will have to fish wire from the gauge to wherever you mount the outside temperature sensor. So, factory installed would have been best, but it may still be worth installing rather than having to pay for an EX-L when you don't want leather.
I think any stereo shop should be able to install it.
If I buy an EX, I'd probably get new speakers and have them do all the installation in one trip.
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I am also a Accord lover (owned 3) as well as Mazda- kind of amazed though that anyone would advocate buying a brand new design without even driving it ??
Reason is I have done extensive reseraches and participated in many different discussion forums focusing on this new car. Therefore, I know exactly what I want, strengths and weaknesses of this car including smallest single component of the car. I will not make hasty decision without sufficient researches and good judgment.
Not sure how to interpret that statement. Does that mean that the bumper cover was damaged, as well as a whole bunch of stuff behind it? So rear quarter panels, trunklid, etc was all intact....and it is all internal damage to the tune of $6500?
From the manual Page 83:
Auto Door Unlocking
The auto door unlocking feature
has five possible settings:
Make sure the shift lever is in the
Park (P) position (A/T vehicles).
Turn the ignition switch to the ON
(II) position, and open the driver’s
door.
Push and hold the rear of the
master door lock switch on the
driver’s door. You will hear a click,
and after about 5 seconds, you will
hear another click.
Release the switch, and within 5
seconds, turn the ignition switch
to the LOCK (0) position.
The driver’s door unlocks
whenever you turn the ignition
switch to the ACCESSORY (I)
position.
All doors unlock when you move
the shift lever to the Park (P)
position (A/T vehicles).
the driver’s door
unlocks when you move the shift
lever to the Park (P) position.
This is the default setting on M/T
vehicles.
All doors unlock whenever you
turn the ignition switch to the
ACCESSORY (I) position.
I was quoted $269 total with $1000 down which is for MV fees and 1st month's payment. This is for the Accord LX with 12,000 miles. Which for me is good, because I own an 2003 Altima and it only has 39,400 on it so I don't need more than 12,000.
But anyway, can you tell me if I'm getting a good deal. From reading some of the board, it sounds like it is. By the way, I am in New Jersey. Oh and another thing, I do not understand the Rate Lease Money Factor and the CAP., Would appreciate if you can explain that to me.
Second, I'm not thrilled with the I4 engine. Of course, this is my first automatic transmission - and perhaps that is the problem. Also, this is the biggest car I have ever driven with a 4cyl. But whatever the reason, the I4 engine seems gutless when the transmission is in overdrive. Even on very slight hills, the transmission shifts to 4th to maintain 80mph. The transmission does not hunt for gears and the shift is impressively smooth. But, it shifts almost every time. It helps immensely to not use cruise control. I guess I would expect my car to maintain 80, on cruise control, without having to shift so often. I take pride in being a smooth driver. If you ride with me, you shouldn't know I'm driving 80-90mph. This engine just doesn't allow smoothness. . . . you have to put your foot in the throttle, allow the transmission to shift down and race the engine to get much meaningful horse power. The car feels like it is working fairly hard to maintain 80mph. [Although it may have been the added control of a manual transmission, I swear my 98, 4cyl. Accord had as much low-end umph as this car has.]
Still love the interior and the handling of my new car! But, honestly, I'm wondering if I might have been happier spending the extra $4k and parking an 07 TL in my garage :confuse:
As far as transmission logic goes, that’s the way grade logic works. Yours is an I-4, it is the same in my TL. Even though the car has enough thrust to tackle low speed driving (under 41 mph) and minor hills, it will keep things going in fourth gear for more responsiveness. Perhaps also useful when the car is loaded, as it prevents gear hunting.
I’m also surprised that you’re having issues with the engine at 80 mph. In my 1998 (which will be rated somewhere around 140-145 HP/145 lb-ft under new standard, weighs about 3200 lb and has a 4-speed auto) feels confident even at 80 mph. It is easy to go 90 mph and not feel it (and it happened this morning). I was fortunate to see some cars braking in front of me at a distance, and there was a cop parked on the side, so I gave a glance to my speedometer, and glad that I did.
That car is rock solid (in terms of engine, suspension and steering) at speeds above 75 mph. Unless you were having to deal with strong winds, I find it hard to believe that the new Accord wouldn’t be the same or better. And I live in one of the windiest cities in the USA (its not the windy city, but the real windy city Dallas).
With a number of vehicles using a 5-speed auto and an I4, the typical RPM at 70 is around 1800 to 1900 RPM. An I4 will be "gutless" at that RPM level - it's normal. Unless you have a torquey V8 turning that low of an RPM, you can't expect any usable torque even with a very efficient torque converter in a conventional automatic transmission, or grade logic for that matter.