That is correct. The humming noise is virtually gone. It used to be loud and annoying. As I mentioned in previous messages, the noise was loud at any speed, including between 60-65mph, when the rpm was between 2100 and 2300. It was particulaly more obvious at cruising speed because the rpm was right in that range. In lower speed, one tends to accelerate and ease off very often so it was tougher to keep the rpm in that range.
Yes, the repair was under warranty. My van had less than 2K miles and was only 1 month and 1/2 old at that time.
You need to get your dealer to reproduce the problem before they accept to fix it.
Please let me know what your dealer says about the humming problem. I just called and spoke to my dealer about the problem and they asked me to bring it in for them to diagnose the noise issue. The soonest I'll be able to bring it in is probably in a couple of weeks. If possible I will request a mechanic to drive it or sit in the passenger seat so they can hear it also.
Hi I got my new Honda Odyssey today and the same Humming sound! I noticed first at 70MPH, but then I noticed at lower speed as well while accelarating. It really is annoying specially with BRAND NEW CAR!!! Is there anything we can do??? :mad:
I live in oregon where lemon laws are supposedly weak. So not sure about that yet. If anyone here has some experience with lemon laws, I will really appreciate the insight.. Is it worth doing that, what kind hassels does one go thr? etc...
i took stn5900's post to the dealer and test drove with a tech. they are ordering a replacement A pipe for me. I will let you know if a new A pipe actually fixes the humming/vibration problem i am experiencing..later
Is this humming issue tied to only the 2006 model? I haven't noticed one from a 2005, and don't recall seeing it when I did my research early last year. What changed?
I plan on buying an Odyssey within the next couple weeks and have a question about the audio system. I understand that the Touring model has an auxilliary input located in the armrest of the third row - is this correct? Does this input exist on other models, like the EX-L?
I have an EX-L with RES/Nav and it has the rear jacks. I guess the question would be, does a non-RES have the jacks if you're not shopping for that model.
some '05 owners have complained about it. It isn't an issue for me (we bought our EX-L in Dec. 2004).
I do notice a slight "lugging" noise at about 2100 rpm, with a light touch on the gas (that is, cruising, not passing through that RPM range). Not noticable or objectionable, and I only even pay attention (sometimes) because I read all these stories. I don't consider it a "defect", it's just part of the personality of the van.
Now, without trying out other vans (from the people complaining here) I honestly can't say if their's are any different than mine. I have found in the past that people have different tolerance levels for mechanical noises. So it is entirely possible that my van is identical to the one that someone here wants to give back under the lemon law.
And, I am generally very anal about noises that don't belong (rattles for instance), so if there was a noise/vibration that seemed like a problem, I would freak out about it.
But honestly, I can't say if I just happened to get a good unit, or I just don't notice things that bother other people.
Each person's level of noise tolerance is different. There is a definite noise at certain rpms with the cylinder deactivation activated. It is inherent with that operation. It does not bother me.
I have noticed engine knocking when the motor is cold and under acceleration I brought it to the attention of Honda and was told it is normal for this engine. The noise goes away once operating temperature is reached. Neither noise effects the superb power and smoothness of the Odyssey.
If you truly have engine knocking I would get it taken care of as that condition is very hard on engines. Some engines have an anti-knock sensor that changes engine settings to stop the knocking.
I owned several honda and nissan before. I have never experienced the humming noise/vibration i am experiencing with my ody. My wife and kid also complain about the humming noise. This is a design flaw, not beause we are a small group if people that are sensitive to noise (i don't think the group is small though).
I just had my A-pipe replaced for my 06 ody. Mixed results.
Pros: It did reduce (not eliminate) the hum from 45mph-55mph.
Cons: Now the van hums when it idles (did not do it prior to the replacement). You can feel the vibration on the steering wheel. Still have the vibration/hum at 70mph.
Recommendations: At this point and time, I am undecided if the replacement was worth it.
As I have mentioned in one of my previous posts, I think this is an inherent problem with the Odyssey and the exhaust system. This noise, at that frequency, is amplified by the Odyssey's cabin like a guitar does when a string is hit.
The noise I had was drastically reduced with the A-pipe change. I still can hear some humming noise in the 2200 rpm range. I also drove two other Odys. They all exhibit the same humming noise but at a much lesser degree. My van is now pretty much like the other two I drove. So, I am happy with it.
Consider yourselves lucky since your van does not hum that much. How about this for comparison: my 05 Odys van is lot louder (10 dB at least, 6dB means double) than my 97 Olds van . It is also louder than any older Odys at the 2200RPM -2400RPM. It is like a broken muffler sound. That is to me a design flaw since the engine operates quite a bit on that RPM range (40 MPH around town and 62-67 MPH on hwy). They may have their air induction design screw-up and it just resonates. If it resonates at 6500 RPM, then it is not that bad since most of us do not want to destroy our engine, but 2400 RPM resonance is down right bad engineering. Otherwise, this is a very excellent vehicle in drive, handling, acceleration, satety,...
re: the guitar (maybe the thread should be strumming noise), perhaps trying either a stiffer or more compliant rubber grommet (don't know what they are actually called) for the exhaust system hangers, or changing the number or location of hangers whould change the resonant frequency of the exhaust system if that is the source.
perhaps someone with a lift could do some experimentation along those lines.
This "engine knocking noise when cold" might not be a "spark knock", but rather it may be a piston slap. Assuming that you have the correct engine oil in the crankcase, and it is at the proper level, try warming up the engine prior to driving the vehicle.----(I know that this is not recommended in the owner's manual. Just start the engine on a cold morning, and let it idle for 5 to 10 minutes in Park.)----- If the "knock" is no longer present, (when you start to drive the vehicle), I would think that it is an expansion issue with the pistons. If this is the case, bring this to the attention of the selling dealer. I would also consider purchasing an extended warranty on this vehicle, because if nothing is done about this problem by the dealer, you will have some engine issues in the future, when the mileage accumulates and the engine wear increases. In addition, keep the oil and filter changes up-to-date. Keep all of your service records. A smart move would be to have the dealer perform all of the oil and filter changes, so there is NO QUESTION about the maintenance, when a problem shows up with the engine! ------ Best regrads. -----Dwayne
right. you might have luck taking it to an independant shop and asking them to put it on the lift so you can take a look if you don't have the proper equipment at home. i'm sure you'd want to make sure there is no physical contact of the exhaust system to any part of the under-carriage except for the hangers and the rubber grommets. i'd pull a rubber grommet and check it's stiffness. if it appears very stiff, i'd try one more compliant / flexible. if very flexible, i'd try to go more stiff.
i'd make sure any heat-shielding attached to the undercarriage, or CAT, or muffler, or exhaust manifold, etc was firmly attached and not loose to vibrate.
this presumes the issue is a standing wave / resonance set up on the pipe, as opposed to IN the pipe. If the problem is IN the pipe, well the approach to mitigation I think would be different.
i don't know if it is a problem since i've had my van only a month but i've never experienced such a great deal of"engine braking" in any other vehicle i've owned...when driving at around 25 mph or less occasionally i'll let off the gas and coast, almost immediately i notice a considerable amount of engine braking, more so than other cars...is this normal or should i have it checked out? thanks
All Hondas have significant engine braking on declining surfaces. Both my Accord & Odyssey downshift abruptly on hills.
I'm not sure about your problem though. My Accord tranny has a mind of its own and does not shift like other cars. Lets say the downshifts are unpredictable. The Honda techs will probably tell you it is normal unless the computer is showing an error code. Can't hurt to have it checked out.
Hello...I have a 2005 Odyssey and have experienced MANY of the issues being discussed.....First problem I had was the wistling noise from the windshield at 40 MPH...this problem was addressed by replacing the entire winshield....NOW we have a VERY loud reving noise when car is heated up and we are traveling at lower speeds and mostly when turning into the driveway or in parking garages....it usually happens AFTER we have traveled awhile and car is warmed up.....ANY SUGGESTIONS???? dealer says this is normal...I have this var for another 3 years...I don't know if I can take it...the noise is EXTREMELY LOUD...please advise.....
If this happens only on turns, first suspicion would be the power steering unit. Try to duplicate the noise by turning the steering wheel while sitting still.. Also, call around and talk to other Service Managers.......
I also suspect that I might have an issue with my brand new Odyssey's power steering unit. I get a quick whine when it starts in cold weather and the other day I noticed the whine at low speeds while maneuvering in a parking lot (the van was very warm at that point). I also face the problem many other owners have reported of loud humming from the engine. This is not related to VCM from what I can tell since the ECO light is not on when I hear this noise. It is a noise that kicks in as the van pushes slightly above 2,000 rpms and the noise stops once I get further into the 2,300 to 2,500 rpm range. Otherwise I really love the van.
It's been a while since I posted anything on Edmunds, but I recently bought my wife a new 06 Ody EX-L. We've only had it a few days - have only put about 50 miles on it so far. I've read through all of the posts on this thread and so far I haven't noticed anything abnormal.
I just bought a EX-L a few days ago and have already put over 300 miles. I have not come across any of the issues that have been mentioned here. Am I missing something or is there a better way to test for these problems. :surprise:
Bought our 06 the very end of 05. First week we started experience a very noisy power steering pump after the vehicle warmed up, especially when turning at slow speed or sitting still. First the dealer blead any air that they claimed was in the line. That did not fix so brought back a second time. Key is to bring it in when they can witness the noise - that took a few dealer visits to figure out that if it is not making the noise and they have not seen the problem in the past, it will be difficult for them to fix of course. In our case we drove it a while to get warmed up and then took to dealer. The second time they continue to work with engineers at Honda. First they replaced the power steering - still did not fix. They flushed the entire system with new fluid and that seemed to fix. Maybe the original fluid was contaminated then when it warmed up was when the problems would start. Turns out that some of the other dealers were seeing the same problems so make sure your repair service calls around to other repair shops if they claim they have never hear of the problem.
I am now have a clunking sound in the suspension on the right front wheel. Vehicle only has 4200 miles. Will be taking in again to see what is going on there - hopefully just something related to work done on power steering system.
I think I will wait and make sure all the bugs are worked out of the Honda FWD Truck before trading my Z-71.
Let me guess - it hums (very loud) after warming up. Full flush of the power steering fixed the problem on our 06 van. First the bled the system. Next they changed the power steering pump. Last thing they did was flush the entire sustem with new PS fluid. I suspect this is a new problem introduced just recently because just now are the dealers becoming familiar with the problem.
We purchased our 2005 Ody EXL-NAV in Jan 05. On a trip to Northern Michigan last May (with 7,000 miles on the van) our power steering pump started making the same noises as yours and other forum members. We called the Honda Dealer in Traverse City to see if we could safely drive the van back home. The Service Rep at Williams Honda was extremely helpful and stated that they had already replaced several power steering pumps on the 2005 Ody model and yes we should be able to get home ok. Upon our return we took our Ody to our local dealer, Hinderer Honda, and they replaced the power steering pump. Unfortunately 6 months later the pump started making noise again, but never when I was close to Hinderer Honda! Yesterday, once again miles from home, the pump was so noisy that I thought it would lock up. I called Hinderer Honda this morning and they stated that Honda agrees that they have noise problems with the Ody power steering system and recommends replacement of the power steering reservoir as a temporary fix. (Permanent fix still in the design stage?) We will inform you of the results. We also have an intermittent problem with the drivers power window control: None of the windows can be opened from the drivers master control switch and/or the drivers window auto up/down function will not work. Problem clears itself when you open and close the drivers door so I suspect that the Door Multiplex Control Unit needs to be replcaed. In closing. this is our second Ody, the first a 2000 EX is still in the family with no major problems and +160,000 miles. Even with the problems on my 2005 I continue to be a Honda fan because they have provided great customer support to me.
The RES on my 2005 odyssey was working fine until the past month and then the sound stopped working. I can't get any sound out of the wireless headphones or wired headphones except a small amount of static. This is the case regardless of trying to listen to the DVD, CD, radio, aux input. I have changed the batteries and moved the many volume controls all over the place - the static volume is the only thing that changes. The static in the wireless is significantly louder (although it is only very noticeable when the volume is on the highest) when in the headphone reception area (2nd and 3rd rows as opposed to the front row or outside the vechicle.) I can't think of anything that may have caused this change in the RES audio. The DVD picture is fine. The rear speakers work fine also. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.
I have a 2005 Touring with RES and NAV and I am having the exact same problems with the headphones. I can hear static in the headphones, which gets louder/quieter when I adjust the volume on the headphones.
That is just one set of headphones. The other set does not work at all. I will be heading to the dealer today. Anyone else having the same problem?
help--- my 2005 odyssey makes very loud humming, or the noise is like an air raid warning when it first starts, or when the air raid warning is ending. it only does it after the car is driven several miles. and its really loud and makes one feel like something is about to go.seems to me like a bearing is maybe going bad. please tell me what you think, thank you very much as honda doesnt know. this is our 4 th odyssey and probably our last
I have a new 2006 Odyssey (2 months) the power steering was making noise. I have had it replaced already. I also have a wind sucking noise that is audible at slower speeds, windows up. It tends to go away after warming up. My biggest complaint is the MPG. In-town short trips getting 14-15 MPG. I am not a fast heavy foot driver. Interstate I average 20-22 MPG. Is anyone else having poor gas mileage. People I ask with Honda's seem to get better mileage, especially the earlier 2000's.
When backing out of garage MIL came on simultaneously with TCS light. No previous history. Scanner says knock sensor circuit malfunction, Hoping it was a fluke I reset MIL and drove. Within 15 miles on highway the MIL light and TCS light again came on. After returning home scanned again with the same fault code -- knock sensor malfunction. The TCS light can be turned off by just cycling TCS switch. I've seen similar threads but none seem to indicate the final conclusion/fix. Thanks in advance!
Your van's MPG numbers are normal. they're real world numbers for minivans. I got the same numbers for my 05 Odys after a year of ownership. My 97 Olds minivan has the similar numbers eventhough it is ~400 lbs lighter and with far less hourse power. Honda EPA MPG may be too inflated and very tough to achieve.
I have a 2006 Odyssey EX-L with no problems as far as I am concerned. I find the issue about a humming noise very interesting. If you get 100 people to analyze your "noise" you will get 100 different responses. Proving in a court of law that this is a serious defect will be very difficult. Have you eliminated the effect tires? Tire pressure? Have you eliminated the effect of the road surface? Does the grade or make of gas make any difference? Does it change with the load in the vehicle. Does it change with temperature. What level of noise is acceptable? How will you measure that? What if is is acceptable one day and then not the next?
hey i cannot believe what is wrong with this van,,, first i start to hear humming noise at about 200 miles only when idle,now its almost all the time when i let go of gas pedal.. wow its unreal,and none of the honda people dont know what im talking about... no way they sell thousands of this cars a month,and BTW this van is omly 1month old and already DVD player gave upKEEP SAYING LOADING,I CANT BELIEVE how manny more trips to dealer im gona have for the next 3 years.... :mad:
'06 Ody w/2400 Miles, maintenance minder:Loose gas cap. Followed owner manual, retightened, no resolution. Went to dealer who reset maintenance minder, checked possible EVAP Leak, per computer but say they found nothing wrong. Van was idling between 500-1000 RPMs at time of initial computer warning, problem still persists, after computer reset. Dealer claims nothing wrong, but engine ran quieter and @Lower RPM before computer warning. Dealer just giving me the blowoff until warrantee expires? Possible causes? Is vehicle emission system, engine being damaged? Anyone else have common experiences? Bought a Honda figuring on better quality vehicle and service? Slightly frustrated. Chgoody. :confuse:
This humming noise is rather easy to hear and notice. Both my wife and I noticed it the first day we took the delivery of our 05 Odys. Even before that we had an old GM van and it did not sound that bad.
How about this for identification: If the vehicle operates in good RPM range (other than 2200-2500 RPM), the vehicle spurs along real nice. As soon as it hits the bad RPM range, the vehicle sounds like it has a leaky muffler or tailpipe. It is more than twice as loud as normal and it has a booming, low frequency effect. So it is not some of us who have sensitive ears or imagine thing, it is bad vehicles that we're stuck with.
If your vehicle does not have it: congratulations, you're lucky.
As a whole, I like my Odys very much. I love driving it on long distance trip: good handling, ride, performance, solid chassis,... It would be a perfect vehicle if this horrible sound is not there. Hope it is not indicative of mechanical problem: engine, transmission,...
We had the same issue on our '05 model, which started as an intermittent prob and then the headphones stopped working entirely. I was also puzzled as to the cause, but the dealer tracked it to a wire that came off on the unit that transmits the signal to the headphones.
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That is correct. The humming noise is virtually gone. It used to be loud and annoying. As I mentioned in previous messages, the noise was loud at any speed, including between 60-65mph, when the rpm was between 2100 and 2300. It was particulaly more obvious at cruising speed because the rpm was right in that range. In lower speed, one tends to accelerate and ease off very often so it was tougher to keep the rpm in that range.
Yes, the repair was under warranty. My van had less than 2K miles and was only 1 month and 1/2 old at that time.
You need to get your dealer to reproduce the problem before they accept to fix it.
Good luck.
Are you planning to go with the Lemon Law? Please let me know. thanks :lemon:
Please let me know what your dealer says about the humming problem. I just called and spoke to my dealer about the problem and they asked me to bring it in for them to diagnose the noise issue. The soonest I'll be able to bring it in is probably in a couple of weeks. If possible I will request a mechanic to drive it or sit in the passenger seat so they can hear it also.
-Odyssey9
It really is annoying specially with BRAND NEW CAR!!!
Is there anything we can do??? :mad:
Welcome to the club of frustating Odyssey's owner.
I had the same problem with a brand new one too.
Check message #106 for a possible solution to your problem.
It seems very similar to mine.
Good luck
thanks.
weeks and have a question about the audio system. I
understand that the Touring model has an auxilliary
input located in the armrest of the third row - is
this correct? Does this input exist on other models,
like the EX-L?
Thanks for any information...
- Mike in Chicago
I do notice a slight "lugging" noise at about 2100 rpm, with a light touch on the gas (that is, cruising, not passing through that RPM range). Not noticable or objectionable, and I only even pay attention (sometimes) because I read all these stories. I don't consider it a "defect", it's just part of the personality of the van.
Now, without trying out other vans (from the people complaining here) I honestly can't say if their's are any different than mine. I have found in the past that people have different tolerance levels for mechanical noises. So it is entirely possible that my van is identical to the one that someone here wants to give back under the lemon law.
And, I am generally very anal about noises that don't belong (rattles for instance), so if there was a noise/vibration that seemed like a problem, I would freak out about it.
But honestly, I can't say if I just happened to get a good unit, or I just don't notice things that bother other people.
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I have noticed engine knocking when the motor is cold and under acceleration I brought it to the attention of Honda and was told it is normal for this engine. The noise goes away once operating temperature is reached. Neither noise effects the superb power and smoothness of the Odyssey.
Pros: It did reduce (not eliminate) the hum from 45mph-55mph.
Cons: Now the van hums when it idles (did not do it prior to the replacement). You can feel the vibration on the steering wheel.
Still have the vibration/hum at 70mph.
Recommendations: At this point and time, I am undecided if the replacement was worth it.
As I have mentioned in one of my previous posts, I think this is an inherent problem with the Odyssey and the exhaust system. This noise, at that frequency, is amplified by the Odyssey's cabin like a guitar does when a string is hit.
The noise I had was drastically reduced with the A-pipe change. I still can hear some humming noise in the 2200 rpm range. I also drove two other Odys. They all exhibit the same humming noise but at a much lesser degree. My van is now pretty much like the other two I drove. So, I am happy with it.
Consider yourselves lucky since your van does not hum that much. How about this for comparison: my 05 Odys van is lot louder (10 dB at least, 6dB means double) than my 97 Olds van . It is also louder than any older Odys at the 2200RPM -2400RPM. It is like a broken muffler sound. That is to me a design flaw since the engine operates quite a bit on that RPM range (40 MPH around town and 62-67 MPH on hwy). They may have their air induction design screw-up and it just resonates. If it resonates at 6500 RPM, then it is not that bad since most of us do not want to destroy our engine, but 2400 RPM resonance is down right bad engineering. Otherwise, this is a very excellent vehicle in drive, handling, acceleration, satety,...
jt
perhaps someone with a lift could do some experimentation along those lines.
i'd make sure any heat-shielding attached to the undercarriage, or CAT, or muffler, or exhaust manifold, etc was firmly attached and not loose to vibrate.
this presumes the issue is a standing wave / resonance set up on the pipe, as opposed to IN the pipe. If the problem is IN the pipe, well the approach to mitigation I think would be different.
I just changed my oil myself and the oil life meter keeps saying 15%. Does anyone know how to reset this?
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I'm not sure about your problem though. My Accord tranny has a mind of its own and does not shift like other cars. Lets say the downshifts are unpredictable. The Honda techs will probably tell you it is normal unless the computer is showing an error code. Can't hurt to have it checked out.
If this happens only on turns, first suspicion would be the power steering unit. Try to duplicate the noise by turning the steering wheel while sitting still.. Also, call around and talk to other Service Managers.......
Am I missing something or is there a better way to test for these problems. :surprise:
Any help is greatly appreciated.
They flushed the entire system with new fluid and that seemed to fix. Maybe the original fluid was contaminated then when it warmed up was when the problems would start. Turns out that some of the other dealers were seeing the same problems so make sure your repair service calls around to other repair shops if they claim they have never hear of the problem.
I am now have a clunking sound in the suspension on the right front wheel. Vehicle only has 4200 miles. Will be taking in again to see what is going on there - hopefully just something related to work done on power steering system.
I think I will wait and make sure all the bugs are worked out of the Honda FWD Truck before trading my Z-71.
That is just one set of headphones. The other set does not work at all. I will be heading to the dealer today. Anyone else having the same problem?
I've seen similar threads but none seem to indicate the final conclusion/fix.
Thanks in advance!
Your van's MPG numbers are normal. they're real world numbers for minivans. I got the same numbers for my 05 Odys after a year of ownership. My 97 Olds minivan has the similar numbers eventhough it is ~400 lbs lighter and with far less hourse power. Honda EPA MPG may be too inflated and very tough to achieve.
jt
first i start to hear humming noise at about 200 miles only when idle,now its almost all the time when i let go of gas pedal.. wow its unreal,and none of the honda people dont know what im talking about... no way they sell thousands of this cars a month,and BTW this van is omly 1month old and already DVD player gave upKEEP SAYING LOADING,I CANT BELIEVE how manny more trips to dealer im gona have for the next 3 years.... :mad:
Slightly frustrated. Chgoody. :confuse:
This humming noise is rather easy to hear and notice. Both my wife and I noticed it the first day we took the delivery of our 05 Odys. Even before that we had an old GM van and it did not sound that bad.
How about this for identification: If the vehicle operates in good RPM range (other than 2200-2500 RPM), the vehicle spurs along real nice. As soon as it hits the bad RPM range, the vehicle sounds like it has a leaky muffler or tailpipe. It is more than twice as loud as normal and it has a booming, low frequency effect. So it is not some of us who have sensitive ears or imagine thing, it is bad vehicles that we're stuck with.
If your vehicle does not have it: congratulations, you're lucky.
As a whole, I like my Odys very much. I love driving it on long distance trip: good handling, ride, performance, solid chassis,... It would be a perfect vehicle if this horrible sound is not there. Hope it is not indicative of mechanical problem: engine, transmission,...
jt