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Right now, make what you can sell easily, get into the clear, then start working on fun projects A Fusion SVT or Taurus SHO with a manual would be nice!!
So what engine does it have? How many miles are on it? What region is it located in (west coast, east coast, north or south, middle states etc)? Does it only do it when its cold or does it do it every time you let go of the gas? Is it only on the highway?
You mentioned they fix it for a minute and it comes back, what is that fix? Do you get a check engine light?
Do you have to physically pull over, come to a stop on the shoulder, put the car in park, restart the car, then put the car back in drive and go again? Or can you do it in neutral while coasting?
Just before the 50,000 and time was up I drove to Bill Gill LM in Tacoma for their help in determining why it ran rich. They hooked the car to a huge diagnostic analyzer that published a long sheet which I took to my local dealer's shop foreman. He read it and was amazed. The next day I picked up the 82 with a new computer under the dash which solved the problem.
Diagnosing is best performed by the best equipment which I expect you have.
Thank you for offering to help Roaddog & hopefully he accepts your offer.
To really get a sense of it, pay attention to the pocket in the front doors. You can squeeze it between you fingers and bend it back and forth, and you can tell it's nice, soft touch material all the way through. Some other cars in this class don't bother with the soft touch on this part of the door, but most just simply put a thin layer of soft-touch plastic over cheap hard plastic. You can feel it when you squeeze, or try and bend that pocket.
I just thought it was a really good example of where Lincoln paid attention to the little things on this car.
Also, here's a new review of the MKS from autofiends.com:
http://www.autofiends.com/index.php/2009/01/2009-lincoln-mks-fiend-vs-fiend/
Well, no SH*T! Congratulations for making the MOST irrelevant statement in this entire discussion!
I still like the MKS; I like the S-550 too, about twice as much, since it costs twice as much.
The engineering required to "emulate the S-
Class" costs money, lots of money, which is why the S is so much more to buy. Pretty soon, as with the Lincoln LS, you have a great car, competitive with the German rivals, that you can't sell for what it's worth because it's a Lincoln. Then you can't make any money with it, since you have to sell it at a Lincoln price point, not a BMW price point, and next thing ya know, you have to start de-contenting the car to make it competitive enough to sell at all. Then you drop the concept.
It's not as easy to build a car, sell it at a profit, and keep your company going as it looks.
Looked at an MKS again over the weekend. Some more comments...the leather is nice...it doesn't look as big as it is and I don't think that is a good thing...the back seat seems smallish for such a big car...when the new Taurus is released, I think the MKS may be the plainer of the pair, especially from the side and rear.
Perhaps the MKT will do better in the marketplace, since it stands out more (not so plain)/is obviously bigger and roomier.
MKS - 1535
Genesis - 1056
Maybe all those Superbowl commercials will help...
Given the price of the Genesis and that it is sold alongside the Accent, it is doing very well. Better than Mazda ever did with the Millenia and 929 (again without a luxury division), or of course VW with the very expensive Phaeton (a great car but way out of any VW price range). If Hyundai had a halo division (Courtesan? Privelige? Baromiq?),would not more nouveau riche flock to it?
Lexus made it big by providing dependability along with luxury and genuine luxury features. It will be interesting to see if Hyundai can do it here without a special division. The Hyundai Equus is every bit as expensive and ostentatious as the Phaeton, and it will probably come here. Lincoln and Ford, even though they are doing some creative things now, don't have the cojones to introduce that sort of real luxury machine.
"The MKS doesn't handle as well as my S550 4matic."
This comparison does take the cake...:):):):):)
I think that was more literal than you meant it to be. The average Lincoln owner pre-MKS and MKX/Z was over 70. Upmarket mainstream vehicles will hopefully drop that a bit, or Lincoln will die off with its customer base.
Fleet sales.
TC sales have taken a hit because the car has not been kept up with the times. It is an ancient design lacking 21st century amenities. The DTS design, while getting long in the tooth, is not nearly so backward.
I agree with a previous post. Bring back a little bit of the cushioned ride of the TC in a more up to date car like the MKS and I think it will do very well. It can always be as an option, say with 18 inch wheels. For the people who want to feel the bumps more, put a firmer suspension with 20 inch wheels. I don't care about the ecobost. I don't want something that handles like a BMW, or I would buy that. I want a comfortable ride and I want an up to date interior and exterior with all the electronic toys.
Actually I was being very literal.........
This also usually results in a lot of body roll in corners - made worse by old flexible body on frame architectures like the TC. That's the "boaty" part - like steering a boat.
And while we may have more folks becoming senior citizens that doesn't mean they want the same type of vehicle as the previous generation. Most buyers today want a more controlled ride where you feel connected to the road with good handling.
If the market for boaty/floaty was so good then why isn't Buick #1 in sales? The DTS only sells well to fleets. Same with the Panthers (TC, GM, CV).
As for you last question. I realize it is rhetorical. I admit that I have not driven a Buick since I drove my grandmother's in the 1970's. I take it you feel Buicks float and corner like a boat. I can't say. I can say this. In my part of the country, there are lots of TCs, GMs and CVs. Not as many as pickups, but still a good number, and certainly more than Buicks.
If Ford only sold vehicles in "your part of the country" then maybe they could get by with floaty boaty vehicles. But they don't and the rest of the world doesn't want a rolling overstuffed lounge chair.
How long does the battery on your laptop last? When its brand new? A year later?
This is Hyundai not Toyota or Honda. Too bad it's not GM, Ford or Chrysler.
Yup and if Ford, GM or Chrysler did that, and the batteries lasted a year before needing replacement, everyone would chime in...
That is okay, I think the point still applies...how long does your laptop battery last when its new? When its a year old? When its 3 years old?
If they have the financial backing to do this type or research and make it work, I think its great for them! I think this is part of what Ford, GM and Chrysler are lobbying the government to help with in the US.
Lexus is successful with less sporty luxury vehicles, so why can't Lincoln be - at least until they get new platforms?
I also selected the base engine for any competitor, and no AWD for any model (except the RL, which is required). The results are as follows for maximizing the number of shared features:
MKS vs 5-series: $12,505 less
MKS vs STS: $12,960 less
MKS vs E-class: $18,470 less
MKS vs A6: $7,890 less
MKS vs RL: $7,315 less (AWD for both)
I'd guess that's why trucks and stretch limos are built with frames. If they were of unit body construction, they would need training wheels or they would collapse. Body on frame construction is more durable, can handle more weight, and is much easier to isolate for noise, especially road noise. I.E., the Cadillac DTS has a issue with road noise when compared with a Town Car, and I presume there's really no cost-effective way to resolve the problem. Anyone remember the clunky and creaky 60s-70s unit body Chrysler products? Unit body construction saves weight and increases passenger compartment room, but I'd rather be in an accident in a body-on-frame car than in a unit body accordion. The best solution was the previous generation TC which had a unitized body secured to a perimeter frame; a very solid combination.
BOF is not as safe as the new unitized designs. There are youtube videos showing how body and frame sometimes separate if you want to take a look.
I think this is like the difference between a firm but supportive mattress or chair versus one that is soft and overstuffed. The soft one may feel better at first to some people or to those who haven't tried a firm one, but once you try the firm one you never want to go back because in the long run it's so much better.
There is a reason that BOF cars are dead. No need to resurrect them now.