Stories from the Sales Frontlines

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    No, it just go's to show that people don't care where they shop as long is the PRICE is lower than others.

    Sad...
  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    well, in today's world, the 7-11 (or WaWa for us Philly centric.....)

    Down here in South Florida, the 7/11's were called U-TOTEM STORES, but they were either bought up by the Southland Corporation (7/11 Stores) or they were forced to change the name of the stores because of the obvious politically incorrect naming of the stores. The stores used to have totem poles as a logo which was insensitive to the Seminoles.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,517
    I know that Wawa is setting up some stores in Fla., just not sure exactly where. Try one if you see it. They make great sandwiches at the deli.

    I won't go into a 7-11 unless there is absolutely no other choice. I find them to be rundown, nasty, and poorly run. Talk about taking a valuable brand and running it into the ground.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,386
    They were so good to me when I first came here. I was such a little "piss ant" at first.

    Richard, I think we ALL were at first- at least I know I was. That said, the spelling and grammar on some forums(cough-mazdas247.com-cough) drives me up the wall. Cars that have a "raddle" in the dash, a "lose break peddle," or a scratch on the front "bumber."
    Idiots.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Veggies are the biggest profit center a store has.

    I am getting different figures. Seems gross profit margin might be 40%, but there is 20% spoilage. And then there are high overhead costs...very labor intensive selling fresh fruit and vegetables.

    I have this information;

    strawberries - grocery store markupsAbout 20% of all produce offered in grocery stores is thrown away before it's even sold due to spoilage, resulting in a 50% to 75% markup, Richards says. Niche products, such as berries, which don't have a long shelf life and come from smaller sellers, may have even higher prices.

    Then I have pretax profit;
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    I will try to find more...but net profit in a grocery store is only 2% to maybe 6% total.
    profit fruit and vegetables

    It is much easier for a store to stock prepackaged and frozen foods, I think.

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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    I walked into KFC and got in line (Don't know why I didn't use the drive thru).

    I never use the drive thru. Once when I was with Son # 2 he stopped at one. We were on our way to a Lowes or HD (I can't remember now) and he wanted to save time so he pulled into a Mc Donalds drive through. It was early in the morning and all he wanted was an OJ. I wanted to go inside, have a seat and discuss his shopping list and have my coffee in there. Nope, too much in a hurry for him to do that so I ordered a coffee with cream and sugar thinking they would put it on the side. Wrong. When I took the first sip of it I almost spit it out all over his dash. Too damn much sugar. I Had to go in and get it corrected. The girl apologized and said, "I was still thinking about how the guy ahead of you ordered his. He wanted 5 sugars and tripple cream. I think I got the cream part right, though. Sorry". :sick:

    I told him that he had the patience of Job.

    I'd say you are the one with the patience. I'd have left long before I heard anything about potato wedges, beans or biscuits. :(

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    I was such a little "piss ant" at first.
    Richard, I think we ALL were at first- at least I know I was.


    Good observation RR. I think when you come on at first you take an adversarial position. That's the way most forums are. Make a point and come in swinging.

    I think we have evolved quite a bit around here. There are a few minor flare ups but for the most part we have all mellowed with age.

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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    I hate to disappoint Mrs. J. but the new Walmart will NOT cause the other chains to lower their prices.

    I think they will and I have some inside info to support that. When Son #1 finished his MBA he went to work at the corporate center of the big local food chain in the Burgh area, the one Mrs. j thinks has prices that are too high. This chain had recently bought a small chain of about 20 stores in the Cleveland area and they were known as the low price food store in that area. They had monthly business meetings and they all but laughed about the competition of the other local food store chain in this area. All they cared about was how to compete with Walmart when they are both in the same area.

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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    They were so good to me when I first came here. I was such a little "piss ant" at first.

    Mike...take his word on that. There ain't no one in here that he didn't try to correct. I think I was his favorite pupil. :blush:

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    I won't go into a 7-11 unless there is absolutely no other choice. I find them to be rundown, nasty, and poorly run. Talk about taking a valuable brand and running it into the ground.

    Wow, sounds like a Wal Mart! :D
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,853
    Wawa is by far the thing I miss most about living in the Philadelphia area. A close second and third are decent Cheesesteaks and Soft Pretzels.
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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    "I cant get no nothing right!!"

    Yes, you can. You got that cute little boy who knows all of the car brands by heart. :D

    Richard
  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,172
    edited March 2013
    I never use the drive thru.

    I try not too.

    Last week my wife was at a meeting around dinner time and wouldn't be home for a while. I went to Long John Silvers and decided to go through the drive-thru. There was a sign out front saying "Help Wanted" (This is pertinent). I ordered a No. 4 (I think) dinner (2 fish and 3 chicken). The girl said, "There are two sides with that".

    I then ordered fries and hushpuppies which is what I thought everything came with. :confuse:

    When I got home there was about a half a pound of fries and a dozen hushpuppies. That was it - no fish & no chicken. :mad:

    Since the store is only a few minutes from my house I went back and got the fish and chicken - and more fries and hushpuppies...LOL.

    Never again. No wonder they were looking for help.

    What was wrong with the wifes Legacy?

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  • boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    Thanks Richard, I was just kidding with my purposely poorly written sentence.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Thanks Richard, I was just kidding with my purposely poorly written sentence.

    And, he wrote it in Canadian.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    edited March 2013
    This conversation went on for another two people! Then she had to order for herself.

    I don't know why the clerk didn't tell the lady to write up her order so he could take care of the other customers.

    Reminds me of when you're in a line at the cash register, and a new cashier appears and just says, I am starting a new line over here. Instead they should ask the next person in line to come to their register. Especially when the one already at the register can't find her credit card or can't decide which sweater she really wanted.

    At Key West we went to see this marker. There were about 20 people waiting in a lineup to take their picture standing next to it. One family with 5 obnoxious kids and 4 obnoxious adults tried to pose in every possible position and combination and took about 20 pictures. It would be nice to snap 2 or 3 or even 4 pictures if you really have to, not make people wait for 10 minutes while you snap pictures you will never look at again.

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  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    edited March 2013
    I agree with you. I personally dislike Walmart stores - they tend to be messy, not too clean, often rundown (unless recently renovated or open). My biggest issue are register lines - they're long and the register clerks are slow. The only place I may consider to go is this new Walmart neighborhood mart store, open in place of shuttered Albertsons (opposite Publix store I go to on regular basis). I went there once, just to check it out, was not that impressed, but their fresh produce section seemed decent. I still don't think Publix is in danger of losing my business, but I might come to that Walmart a few times.

    In comparison, Publix stores are simply nicer places to be and shop. I decided that my time, comfort and aggravation are not worth the price difference, I can afford it. However, even as I don't like shopping at Walmart, it is beyond me, how anybody would be so presumptuous and block a business opening in their neigborhood. They must have a lot of contempt for those less fortunate, for whom those extra few bucks on their receipt is really big deal. Kind of "I know better than you what's good for you" attitude that our society is plagued with.

    By the way, traditional supermarkets in 20s and 30s last century were also called all sorts of evil names, job destroyers being a mild one. They introduced a vertical supply system allowing for cheaper acquisition of goods directly from the manufacturer. The backlash was orchestrated by local warehouse owners, who tended to be typical VIP in small local communities. So being supporter of local churc choire, or scout troop, they felt like being entitled to their margins. Some states had even prohibitions laws against selling at discount or buying directly at the manufacturer, which today seems hard to believe. Free market means free market - if there is somebody who can do it better, quicker, cheaper, and there are enough people who think they want to pay less rather than more, the "outrage" of that can't be stopped.

    To finish with less combative atitude, I only add I can understand that sometimes a particular location may not be suitable for a large store due to traffic or other considerations. That would be a legitimate reason to disallow such business. I simply don't think the "principle of we don't like Walmart, so we won't let you open" is a valid one. If people trully did not like Walmart, it would quickly find that out by having low sales. Otherwise, it's just couple of yahoos thinking they know better and imposing their will on others.

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  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    The Rolls price was not negotiable.

    You mean no cashback, low interest, or holdback? Outrage. I'm not buying any today, not until they come to senses and lower the price by 80%. ;)

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    The Rolls price was not negotiable.
    You mean no cashback, low interest, or holdback?


    Yeh, you buy one of those and they will probably try to talk you into buying a mop n glo special.

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  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    dino, you summed up what I was attempting to say about Walmart much better than I did.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,691
    edited March 2013
    >chicken pot pie.

    Don't eat too many of those... 50% calories from fat, and many other categories are huge compared to daily intake for a normal person.

    Not to shake salt on your parade:

    Serving Size (gms) 400
    Calories 790
    Calories from Fat 410
    Total Fat (gms) 45
    Saturated Fat (gms) 37
    Trans Fat (g) 0
    Cholesterol (mgs) 75
    Sodium (mgs) 1970
    Carbohydrates (gms) 66
    Dietary Fiber (gms) 3
    Sugars (gms) 7
    Protein (gms) 29

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  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Reminds me of my BIL. He was telling me he stayed at a motel that didn't have a free breakfast. He took his early morning walk and around the corner there was a motel that did have a free breakfast. He walked in like he was staying there and had a nice breakfast.

    You just gotta learn how to work the system.


    That unfortunately isn't working the system - that's stealing.

    I can't believe you - a small business owner - would condone stealing of product.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,621
    That . . . isn't working the system - that's stealing.

    I wondered if I was the only one thinking that -- apparently not.
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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    I hope that your son is correct. It would be nice if Walmart had some real competition. It would also please many customers like Mrs. J.

    Richard
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    "I think I was his favorite pupil."

    The lessons must have been poorly taught. I finally gave up on you. :P

    Do you remember Greenpea? He actually loved the corrections and maintained that he was learning quite a bit. He was such a nice young man who had a drinking problem for a while. Then he had romance problems. He finally drifted away from here, but I hope that he's doing well.

    Richard
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    LOL! I knew that. You write really well.

    Richard
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    We had a similar experience at that marker. I never did understand why the couple in front of us had to take 100 pictures. It took us about 15 seconds to snap two pictures and we were gone.

    Richard
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    Yikes! The name should be changed to Poison Pot Pie. That is exactly why I avoid fast food restaurants---the ingredients will kill you. Still, now and then, a little cleansing of the body with some grease is a good thing. :P ;)

    Richard
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,072
    Here are some cars seen at Walmart:

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    RE: Hotel Breakfast Stealing,

    When I was on the road alot a few years back, many guys would walk across to a different hotel if theirs didn't have a free breakfast. I always thought it was wrong.

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  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    That is exactly why I avoid fast food restaurants---the ingredients will kill you.

    Everything in moderation...

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    edited March 2013
    dino, I asssume your post was directed to me?

    A new store in a neighborhood is either a welcome addition or a store that adds nothing to an area. If the city leaders choose to block a Wal Mart from moving in, I don't think that is presumptuous or being mean spirited.

    For many of us who are anti Wal Mart it's a matter of what we think of their stores in general and their model of doing business. It is not some attempt to block availibility of (maybe) lower priced products to less fortunate people.

    I happen to volunteer two days a week dispensing food for a ehole lot less than Wal Mart charges...FREE to the homeless and others who live in my community who are struggling to buy food. In addition we support local Tent Cities to the tune of several hunderd dollars every year. I spend many hours every month on community projects often spending my own money in the process.

    If I were in charge of running Wal Mart, I wouldn't WANT to build a store in a community that didn't want our presence. I'm sure there are a lot of places where they would welcome a new Wal Mart.

    As far as mistreatment of their suppliers, those suppliers KNEW what they were getting into or at least they should have.

    We live five minutes from Costco's National Headquarters and I know several Costco execs. Costco is demanding on their vendors but they can make them a lot of money at the same time. Many vendors won't deal with Costco for that reason. They resent Costco's demands and restrictions.

    If I was selling pickles or toasters I know I would do a LOT of research before entering into an agreement with Wal Mart or Costco. The right fit could yield a LOT of profits but it has to be the right fit!
  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    What was wrong with the wifes Legacy?

    I thought I said there was nothing wrong with her Legacy. Nothing. In fact I also said I told her I want it to run just like that for another 100K miles.

    I'd say all that was wrong was, she was not feeling very well that day. She had a terrible head cold and maybe she thought she heard something. Otherwise I'd say it was driver misconception and hope she never sees this post. :cry:

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  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    Yes, there is a difference between negotiating and stealing...

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  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    edited March 2013
    One thing I agree - if there is no market, if the people don't want them there, they shouldn't come. However, I simply suspect it is some people don't want them there. Even if hundred people showed up on some kind of demonstration against them, it means that 10 thousand minus 100 did not show up. The only way to know for sure that they are not wanted is to let them open and then bancrupt the place by not showing up to shop there. As long as they satisfy formal requirements of all administrative burden (zoning, safety, traffic, etc.), I think it would not be fair to stop them from opening just because a few people feel strongly against them enough to take the rest of the community hostage.

    As I wrote before, regular supermarket chains were greeted with same amount of resentment and vilification from local businesses and interest groups that relied on status quo. This is always the case when one has a true disruptor in the business - there will be a negative impact on some. The presumptuous part is that everybody has to be denied access through administrative means to this business because some will suffer negative consequences. Only market can verify if one is more beneficial than the other. If people rather go to a rundown store and pay less for the merchandise, it is their choice to make, not a few activists who think they know better. I don't shop there but it would not even cross my mind to presume that I know better than a single mother. If Walmart did something criminally wrong they should be punished, but just because a few companies chose poorly by agreeing to their seemingly unreasonable terms, that is not really my problem. Well, it is, but five degrees removed, not enough for me to tell a single mother she can't get access to their stores.

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Well, I have never participated in any kind of a demonstration so even though I would oppose a Wal Mart in our town, I wouldn't be one of the 100 oeople demonstrating.

    I would think though if someone were to poll the other 10,000 people, including me, that the vast majority would oppose the arrival of a Wal Mart.

    Stiil as I said before, were Wal Mart to open, a large percentage of that 10,000 would quickly forget their opposition and shop there.

    Funny how that works once they realize thay can save 1.50 on a tube of toothpaste!
  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    That is tru for sure. People tell pollsters one thing, but they vote with their wallets. I'm always cracked up when somebody says "would you pay a little more for something if it was supporting your town/state/country. People say "sure", but what is a little? I'd say anything less than 10% for items below $100, scaling down with the price. At $10,000 you get probably 1-2% tolerance, if that at all. You know it well, don't you? - all those people willing to save $100 to go out of state - and pay $50 in gas to get it, but that's a different story.

    My point is Walmart should be allowed to conduct their business, as long as their practices are legal. If they satisfy whatever administrative burden there is, they should be let open a store - even if you and I wouldn't go there because we think it's disgusting, or we dislike the company.

    The pickle story is a very good one - but I blame Vlasic much more than Walmart. All Vlasic had to do is say no.

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    edited March 2013
    " All Vlasic had to do was say no"

    My point exactly! They had stars in their eyes and drank the Kool Aid!

    Reminds me of the people who got a "greal deal" on a house because it was 200 yards from the runway at LAX and then complained about the constant noise of jets taking off and landing!
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,072
    All Vlasic had to do is say no.

    And all Walmart has to do is say, OK I'll buy all my pickles from someone else. In doing that, Vlasic would have probably had to cut production, lay-off a % of the work force, and break contracts with the farmers growing the pickles.

    It's a double-edge sword dealing with Walmart. On one end its a steady stream of volume, on the other hand they quickly become the only eggs in your basket.

    Many people don't realize many companies that sell to Walmart have divisions exclusively dedicated to handling them. There are many demands they expect from the vendors. POP displays, advertising co-op, markdown money for items that don't sell, etc etc. Even the shipping department has to understand how to pack and ship an order. Walmart has a guide (I've seen it) that explains exactly how to skid, label and deliver products to it's warehouses. You better also not be late with an order, because you will be fined for lost sales, or worse yet stuck with it.

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  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    But that's is the case with every business. I'm not a benovelent father to know what kind of parameters every business could or should work in. The story was Vlasic was a premium brand, but due to their "greed" (or if you like to call it differently "misjudged business expansion opportunity") they thought they could expand sales AND maintain premium margins. They couldn't, which resulted in brand damage and consequently long term business damage. But that was Vlasic's misjudgment, not Walmarts. Going in, they should know whether that can deliver on a given set of parameters, or not. They thought they could, but the reality was different. Again - I blame Vlasic. They were given parameters, if they could not meet them, they should walk away. What is worse - lost business opportunity that wasn't real (price did not support margins), or lost margins, brand and other things because of misjudged reality. It is easy to blame Walmart - but I think they were fair and clear. If enough businesses stood up and walked away, they'd know the real limits.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,072
    When a customer represents a large percentage of your business you do whatever you can for them. It's a give and take. I'm pretty sure that Vlasic figured it could produce the loss leader item and cost average it into all the other lines it sells to Walmart and still come out doing very well. Even a 10% margin when selling to Walmart is a sizable chunk of money.

    In this case it failed, because they hurt sales of their own products. Monday morning quarterbacking it, perhaps they should have raised the price, or created a private label product just for Walmart. "Sam's Pickles" and then in small print on the back "produced by Vlasic exclusively for Walmart" This would have made it less obvious to the casual shopper and not hurt the brand as much.

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Exactlly correct! It is, indeed, a double edged sword and it's a sharp sword that can turn on you quickly!

    The rewards can be great but that bull you are playing with has horns and you had better be aware and realize that friendly bull can quickly turn on you!
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    The story was Vlasic was a premium brand, but due to their "greed" (or if you like to call it differently "misjudged business expansion opportunity") they thought they could expand sales AND maintain premium margins.

    Actually the issue wasn't greed. Reread the article. Walmart approached them to do the gallon jug as a door buster. Vlasic agreed. It was stupid successful but the sales of those gallon jugs reduced the sales of the more profitable smaller jars of sliced pickles. When Vlasic approached Walmart to raise the price or drop the gallon size, Walmart said no and if you drop it we'll drop you.

    Walmart is such a retailing force that many companies can't afford not to do business with them. If they do, Walmart squeezes them on margin. If they don't, they lose business when other retailers are crushed by Walmart.

    BTW - store level employees may not be the finest the world has to offer but their corporate folks are plenty smart and savvy.
  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    I agree. We all can monday morning quarterback. I'm not pretending the decisions are easy or life is fair. It is not. I'm just against "blame Walmart" campaign. I find it funny, I don't particularly like them, but I like to be fair for everybody. If Walmart did something wrong (like that bribing oficials in Mexico), the justice should go after them. But if a business failed to correctly weigh risk vs opportunity and lost its shirt "because of Walmart", I still think it's mostly the businesses' management fault, not Walmart's.

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  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    edited March 2013
    Sure, I get it. Life is tough, for everybody. I'm not being facecious, just stating a fact.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,691
    edited March 2013
    Richard,
    The accepted salt intake level is probably higher than it should be. I see 1500 (Mayo Link) for folks older instead of the 2300 mg. My wife and I use very little salt. Bob Evans restaurants have a good chicken pot pie and the amount of salt in it made it almost (almost but it was till tastin' good) made it too much for me. The salt is a preservative.

    I just rarely get that pot pie.

    All,
    The resistance to Walmart almost always comes from local businesses and a group of people against the incursion into _their_ nice neighborhood. The general population in the area usually is in favor. I know of one Walmart where friends of ours had built a nice home at the end of a cul-de-sac. I had stood outside and asked what could happen with that farm field adjacent to their 3/4 acre lot.

    "The farmer said he has no intention of selling."

    Two years later they along with other homeowners are trying to block the Walmart because of a drainage flow which the Army Corps of Engineers was suppose to consider endangered waterways or something. Silly. That was their only hope to block the Walmart which had the option on the land.

    The moral is never build where nothing is next to you unless it's a National Park, et cetera.

    While the Walmarts sometimes are run down (employee problem/manager problem) the clientel is not always the middle class image examples...

    Best Walmart I see is in Canton, MI, next to a Sam's Club, on Ford Road. Brightly lit, clean floors, odd mix of clientel (who probably thought I was odd wearing my OSU knit cap a week ago).

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  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    Wow ... so many things being discussed today.

    Richard, regarding your trip to KFC and the person in line in front of you - I work part-time delivering pizzas. Often, I'll grab the phone and take an order or two when I'm in the store. It frustrates me beyond belief when someone calls in and doesn't know what they want. What should take only 1 or 2 minutes takes far longer. Checking with other folks in the background, arguing about the size of the pizza and the type of crust, etc.

    At the end of my shift, I'll call my wife and ask if there is anything she wants before I come home. She and the step-daughter may have me stop and get them ice cream. I always ask that they text their order to me - this avoids any confusion about what they want, and I have a record of the order in front of me when when I get there.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    edited March 2013
    Serving Size (gms) 400
    Calories 790
    Calories from Fat 410


    Hey you're worse than me watching weight and health. Seems most people aren't too worried about that.

    I would be....almost half of my daily calorie allotment gone on one pie. Pies are not great, too much high calorie crust. If you want to eat a pie at least remove the top, unless you don't care.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    I can't believe you - a small business owner - would condone stealing of product.

    What am I supposed to do, turn him in?

    I don't think the motel cares that much, next time he will probably stay there instead now that he knows. It was a loss leader.

    I couldn't do it myself, but, he is a likeable guy and has a way of getting away with small stuff. In the big scheme of things, it isn't a case worth bringing in the FBI.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    The pickle story is a very good one - but I blame Vlasic much more than Walmart. All Vlasic had to do is say no

    Not that easy. They thought the promotion would be temporary. Walmart liked it so much they made it almost permanent.

    Vlasic wanted to stop the promo, but, Walmart said if they did stop the promo, they would remove their other products from the shelf.

    In the case of Huffy bikes, they asked Huffy to make a cheaper model just for Walmart. It was such a big seller Walmart demanded way more than Huffy could make. They couldn't make profitable bikes for other markets, so they went under.

    It is easy to say don't get into a deal with Wallymart...the fact is you do it but have no idea how they will take advantage of you.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    It's a double-edge sword dealing with Walmart.

    Exactly, the vendors book with rules and regulations is about 6 inches thick. If things aren't delivered in a small window of time you will be fined. If something isn't labelled...like if it falls off, you will be fined.

    There are rules that they can have you ramp up production. One jewellery maker thought it was great that he got the contract for Walmart. Then they wanted him to produce more as he was obligated to do. He couldn't make jewellery for his other clients. Then Walmart kept demanding discounts....he ended up folding because he was losing money and had no other customers.

    This isn't ethical, it's just being nasty. Some people think if they can ruin someone else that is brilliant...better if you can prosper and your suppliers can prosper.

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