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Buy the Sport and enjoy the added equipment. After a month you will be used to the side sills.
You can't see them when you are driving anyway.
Life is too short to allow something as minor as side sills to become a significant factor in your purchase decision.
Just noticed there is a litte "wing" on the back of the roof - so it gets worse.
While I consider the looks of a car to be fairly unimportant, I do draw the line at tasteless (in my opinion), tacked on, go fast items that serve no purpose.
Has anybody added cruise to a Honda before.
Do you mean after market? if yes then no.
My 96 Civic EX 5sp manual came with cruise.
If you really want factory, and you don't like the sport - you may want to look at buying one from Canada - as we get 3 models - base, lx, and sport. A lx is a sport without all the flair.
While the engine rpms are higher with the manual, I completely agree...I'm going for the manual as well.
I am too lazy (and don't know the formula) to actually convert gear ratios to X mph at Y rpm, but I found a website that shows results comparable to the 2002 Civic 1.7 5-speed I drive occasionally.
http://www.f-body.org/gears
It calculates a Fit Sport MT to hit 80 between 3700 and 3800 rpm, while the AT would do 80 between 2800 and 2900 rpm. About a 900 rpm difference. The Civic I have driven is supposed to be about 100 rpm less at 80, but I have found it to be completely bearable even at slightly higher speeds.
Anything is better than my 3-speed AT Corolla at 80! The engine is indeed roaring at that point. :surprise:
...but the engine braking is excellent.
http://www.met.ca/fit
Unless you guys are playing a trick on me.
I block ip ranges and some countries on my firewall - maybe you are on one of them?
Can you tell me your ip - just the first 3 octects will suffice...
It just drives me nuts that the AT revs so much lower. It is just not fair.
A fit with a 6 speed manual would be amazing. Keep the first 5 gears the same as they are now and add a 6th gear that brings revs down closer to the automatic. How did Nissan beat Honda to an efficient 6 speed manual (in the Versa). :confuse:
The Honda dealer there was from Colonial Honda, and he had no information to offer, other than "I can beat anyone else's price, so come see me, when you're ready to buy."
Thanks!
Sorry if I'm asking these "worrisome" questions. I've just gotten impatient waiting for the Fit all these years.
I thought I'd start another thread, just for keeping track of data, so other viewers don't have to keep searching and searching (and searching!) other threads, just to get a list, numbers or the pictures.
I'll start off by posting the information for accessing high-resolution photos that were included in the press kit, given out at the 2006 NAIAS in Detroit.
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I've got something set up under MyOtherDrive.com, where I set up an account with separate folders containing the base and sport images, along with zip files, containing all images.
First Field: DewaltDakota$yahoo^com, Next field: dewaltdakota
(of course, replace the "$" with "", and "^" with ".")
Note: The above information gets you in as a "friend", where you can download and view, but not add images.
Once in, you'll see a folder at the top, labeled "2007 Honda Fit", with subfolders "Base" and "Sport." From there, you can choose from the thumbnail images to preview, or directly download the full size image (3000x1982). The zip files are listed at the end of each group of thumbnails.
I believe you have to have Javascript enabled, in order to be able to view the pictures.
Within the first post, I've provided the information for accessing the high-res photos.
CarSpace uses your Edmunds forums ID and password and sets up in a snap. If you have any questions about CarSpace, feel free to ask me. And while you're at it, pop in and visit MY CarSpace :P
http://www.carspace.com/pf_flyer
It's a great way to find others with similar interests, share photos, scan the automotive news of the day, check out the blogs...
Stop in to MY CarSpace and ask to be my friend
http://www.carspace.com/pf_flyer
http://www.whatcar.com/car-review-summary.aspx?NEW_USED=1&MA_TYPE=1&MA=14&RT=358- &Submit1=GO
Or.. you could try going on the English Honda website (www.honda.co.uk)
Hope this has been a help to some of you!! James
Thing is, as said before, it seems as though the manufacturers do not want to have a "budget" car get the same or better MPG than their "premium" hybrids...which is probably why the US gets the "new" trannies that rev so much higher... Same with Scions...xA and xB have the same engine and trans as the old Echo, yet get worse MPG due to the high final drive ratio. People on http://www.scionlife.com/ have discussed swapping in the lower final drive from the Echo, thus reducing revs and increasing fuel economy...
As far as cruise, it's a simple deal to add aftermarket...a couple wires, screws, and some sticky tape...couple hundred bucks at a customizing shop. If factory cruise does not have steering wheel controls, then the wheel shouldn't have to be changed to install...might need to check a sport model to see what the cruise looks like. If it has steering wheel controls, and the wheel needs to be changed, bring your wallet. Dealer would probably charge $4.5 billion or so... Personally, I'd not pay a dealer so much to install something so simple just to get a short warranty.
Anyway, I spent a lot of time (multiple times actually, so I wouldn't hog it) in the driver's seat, trying to get it adjusted so it was comfortable. And I did find a setting that was tolerable, if I put my hands low on the wheel. My left leg was not too badly off, although the car really needs a dead pedal--it's odd to me that a tossable car like this doesn't have one. Also my right leg was up in the air a bit, but I will probably not take long trips in the car so it should not be an issue.
I am glad to be able to keep the Fit on my shopping list, and if it rides and drives well it will probably be my next car (I need to drive the Accent, Versa, and Yaris though, and need to see how the Fit fares in the IIHS tests). I did notice a few cost-cutting moves, however, which allow Honda to sell the car for such a low price. For one, all the surfaces inside are hard--even the fabric panels on the doors are glued over hard plastic. (In contrast, the Versa has really cushy padded armrests on the doors.) The hard plastic is mostly good-looking, but it does remind the owner, "Yes, this is an economy car--what did you expect?" For another thing, the carpeting is the cheapest I have ever seen in a car. It looked like the fibrous trunk mats that you find in inexpensive cars. I wonder how it will clean up and hold up, especially under the driver's left foot where there is no dead pedal, just this thin carpeting. And while the mirrors fold, there are no protective strips on the doors (hello, door dings!). But those could be added aftermarket. Another thing that would be nice to have are the shingle-style rear seat headrests that many cars have now, so the rear seats could be folded without removing the headrests.
One thing I have a little concern about: I reached under the wheel wells and found that the rear wells are not closed, that is, they go all the way up into the D pillars. Since I live in the Rust Belt, and I can envision snow/slush/salt being thrown up from the rear wheels into this space, should I be concerned?
I was really impressed with the interior room with and without the seats folded down. I sat in the Civics, Corollas, Mazda3s, and none of them felt as big in the back seat as the Fit. Even though I've read about that interior room here and elsewhere, It's still surprising to see it for yourself in a car of that size. I was also able to find what seemed to be a comfortable driving position, and it seemed as though it would be pretty comfortable, even on longer trips (I'm 6'2"). I thought the sport model looked better in person than the base model did. Everything seemed more proportional on the sport. The tires on the base look too small for it. The "boy racer" add-ons actually make the sport look more finished IMHO. A lot of people who had never heard of the Fit seemed favorably impressed by what it had to offer. According to one of the Honda folks at the desk, they won't be available to test drive here in the Twin Cities until late April.
The carpeting in the cargo area only covers the center of the floor. The edges are open to the plastic deck below. I'd want to get one of those WeatherTech cargo area liners to keep it clean. The C-pillar visibility looked no worse than the Civic's, although those A-pillars are pretty thick. Just waiting for April now, to test drive one!
The passenger room is really incredible for a car its size. About the only car in its class that comes close, or exceeds the Fit, is the Versa, and the Versa is longer and does not have a flat load floor. To me, the Civic's rear seat had much more leg room than the Fit, but of course the Fit is a lot more versatile and also costs a lot less. And you can't put anything under the rear seat of any of the other cars!
The Sport model looked pretty good, but I can do without the sills, spoiler, and bigger wheels. I think the Fit is a bargain at $13k. At $15k the value proposition starts getting iffier for me.
The other thing I appreciated was the two-tone upholstery in the Fit. The Aveo, Xa, and Aerio all were shown with all-black interiors, both upholstery and interior plastic. It made them look like a cave. With the big windows, and the two-tone seats, the Fit looked much brighter inside.
I'd like to be able to put up a gate and keep them in the far back if there's room. Otherwise, I'll put the back seats down and let them ride atop those.
mklein
Fit accessories
http://www.honda.co.jp/dog/honda-car/fit/
even though it's in japanese, or
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.honda.co.jp%2Fdog%2Fhon- da-car%2Ffit%2F&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
for the partial translation.
There are going to be more new inovative cars in the near future, so I will bide my time.
When the Yaris, Fit, Versa, new Scion all hit, hopefully their will be enough supply. If not no big. They are just small low end cars.
Granted, with reports of the MT being dropped to 10% of production
I haven't really decided which if any of these cars I will go with. I like the styling of the Yaris, but the Fit seems to have a better overall package.
"" with only 4 possible choices, getting what you want with the Fit should be relatively easy compared to the competition. ""
That seems to be a bit of an oxymoron in itself. I might just like a base no frills hatch with a cruise...no luck there with anyone I guess.
Signing up for cars when you can't drive one, see one, or even get a firm price, just isn't my style I guess.
Just a little venting.
Several of us have had the chance to drive the Fit or Jazz in another market (or at the very least have seen it), so we do know a thing or two about the car and how it is in the real world. In your case, as you mentioned you don't know which car you want to go with, so it's a better idea that you wait and test drive them all.
I personally have been waiting for the Fit, and I am not very interested in the others. Sure, I will go check them out and test drive them, but I wanted to make sure I had a chance to get the exact Fit I wanted. My primary objective in that sense was to get the 5MT. I know manuals aren't popular in the United States, so I figured getting one of those later on could be difficult. My assumption turned out to be true with the recent news that only 10% of the allocation for the US market will be manual.
I think almost everyone who has signed up for the Fit has given a fully-refundable deposit. If we end up dissatisfied during the test drive or with the final price, we can easily get our money back...no questions asked. At least that's the agreement with my dealer.
1. Cavernous cargo room. 21 cubic feet with the back seats up, and it shows. Amazing
2. Magic seat is truely magic. It took me 15 seconds to figure out how to fold the back seats, one handed. It took me another 30 to have the front seat folded flat in relax mode. A truely great invention.
3. Amazing comfort. This car is 7 inches shorter than my 94 Corolla yet has more leg room and head room than the Toyota. Hell the Fit has more room for the driver than does the Camry and the Accord, at least in head room!
4. Spectacular interior, the wheel is a wheel of substance and the manual transmission is smooth as silk. The radio,(on a regular non sport model) looks like something out of an Acura TSX, and all materials feel top quallity.
Based on what I saw and compared to the Corolla, Yaris, Scions A and B, Civic, Versa and Sentra, the Fit conquers all. It truely is the greatest economy car ever made by man, so far.
I saw a Jazz in Nassau 3 years ago and was very upset we couldn't get this excellent people hauler stateside. Hopefully Fit does well enough here that Honda and other Japanese companies start considering other B and even A class vehicles for the NA market.
Say, did that shifter kind of dig into your hand, with the ball missing?
It really is a shame that they have to take off anything that could be stolen because people will steal anything that isn't nailed down. (And even some things that are!)