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Dude, that's some crazy stuff. You are probably right. At this point tho, I couldn't imagine parting with something I haven't gotten yet.
If the thing levitated, had outstanding styling, was a sports car or had the 100mpg fuel injection technology the oil companies supposedly stole to increase profits that would be a mitigating factor but otherwise....
Happy Hunting
--jjf
My FIT has excellent MPG, at anywhere from about 30-33 MPG in the city driving, and 35-38 HWY. The steering control is excellent, almost like a force feedback, and you can really feel the electronic steering stabilization really working. Just to test it out, I was zipping around corners listed as 45 at around 70, and this thing hugged the turns like it was stuck to them by magnets. As far as the paddle shifters on my sport version, yeah, they could have done without those, as they really aren't needed, but it's nice to have if I ever feel like driving a standard again.
The sound system is great, with the six speakers and all, but I will upgrade later I am sure. The seating is nice and roomy, and cargo space isn't an issue at all. The different modes are wonderful, as now I can pretty much choose how I want to store stuff on longer trips. You have to be sure to remember that the vehicle sits pretty low to the ground on the sport model, as I found out the hard way when I scraped the underside of the front bumper.
The alloy wheels look pretty gay, I should say though. DEFINATELY going to get those switched out. The new windshield wipers are nice, and do an excellent job. I also got the blue trim, to match my car color, and the full nose cover, and the muffler cap. Everything all together, and I paid about 1,000 less than MSRP, and am paying 345 for 60 mo. It would be lower, but I am sitting with a bankruptcy from 3 years ago, and have a few bills to pay off. So, I got mine for about 16,200 before interest, and am sitting at a 10% APR. I will refinance after June 07, when my bills are all paid off, and try to get the price down to 300 or less.
All in all, the vehicle is gret, handles like a dream, and the MPG is unbelieveable. I have never been happier with a new car, it's everything I ever wanted. It's worth a hassle if you need to wait, in my opinion. I just wish it had accessories like seat covers made for it, and floor mats should never be an "option" on any vehicle, they should be standard.
I ordered my Storm Silver Metallic Fit Sport on 9-2-06 at a dealership outside of Pittsburgh. The saleswoman said it would be here sometime in the first two or thee weeks in December. Not hearing from her, I called her two weeks ago to check in on things. "The car is on a boat in the middle of the Pacific Ocean...will be here by Christmas." The conversation finished with her telling me to look for a call from her the following week. Not hearing from her again, I called last Thursday. Turns out the car was built on 11-25, but is still NOT on the boat. Forget delivery before Christmas. Maybe before the new year if I'm lucky. But until that time, I'm attempting to wait patiently. That whole "patiently" thing has a lot to be desired, though. It's nice to know I'm not the only one in this boat. I wonder how long I have to wait... :confuse: and I wonder how long I can hold out. It's worth it...right?
NO WAY - NO HOW
I ordered my Storm Silver Metallic Fit Sport on 9-2-06 at a dealership outside of Pittsburgh. The saleswoman said it would be here sometime in the first two or thee weeks in December. Not hearing from her, I called her two weeks ago to check in on things. "The car is on a boat in the middle of the Pacific Ocean...will be here by Christmas." The conversation finished with her telling me to look for a call from her the following week. Not hearing from her again, I called last Thursday. Turns out the car was built on 11-25, but is still NOT on the boat. Forget delivery before Christmas. Maybe before the new year if I'm lucky. But until that time, I'm attempting to wait patiently. That whole "patiently" thing has a lot to be desired, though. It's nice to know I'm not the only one in this boat. I wonder how long I have to wait... and I wonder how long I can hold out. It's worth it...right?
I *WISH* I was on your boat, so to speak. Just talked to my dealer and he now tells me my dec/jan date is now feb sometime but he has no clue when. UGH. SOmeone just shoot me now!
I am waiting on a manual, so I can understand if it takes longer but I just wish I knew that up front so I could have ordered it from another dealer (not that I know that would have helped, because I do not). I thought at the time I ordered I was like third on the list but later I find out that they couldnt even order my MT till around thanksgiving time.
Anyone else with this issue?
I hope it is worth it.
But if my current crappy car can't hold on that long, I might have to start looking for something other then what I really want.
He claimed that he didn't want to give me that info because it was frequently unreliable, and he had gotten other customers upset by providing those figures, which later turned out to be wrong. I suspect he was just being defensive, but have any of you had experiences where you actually saw the dates and they were later changed?
I've read of one case on either this forum or FitFreak where someone was told that their car had been shipped, then was later told that it had not been shipped yet, but in that case the customer had only the salesperson's word, and the salesperson may just have been blowing them off.
I have 2 basic questions. First, what would be the typical wait time we might expect before receiving a car that one particular dealer is telling us is "slated for Production in the next few weeks"? It seems to me that that would likely be a very long time, if it's not even built yet. Also, he tells me that this car they have 'slated for production' is exactly what we're looking for. Do dealers actually know what is 'slated for production' for their particular dealership before it's built, or should I assume this is a case in which they'd simply try to trade around to get our car once they get whatever they get, unless they *happen* to get lucky enough to get what we're looking for?
Thanks in advance for any helpful advice!
As I understand the system, Honda allocates a certain number of Fits to the dealer based on their previous sales volume. (In the case of the Fit, I'm told that it is based on last year's sale of Civics.) The dealer has no choice in what they get, only whether they will take a certain car or not. For example, they may get an allocation of two Storm Silver Sport Automatics, one Lunar Mist Base Automatic, and one Milano Red Sport Manual. If a customer has given them a deposit on any of those, they obviously say they'll take it. Since the Fit is in such high demand, they'll probably also take any other cars allocated to them, with the idea that they can either sell them from stock or trade with another dealer. In your case, the dealer is probably talking about a car they ordered for stock, although they might have taken it because someone had put a deposit on it, then cancelled the order later - that happens a lot because people get tired of waiting.
Next the dealer gets a notice that their order has been approved, then an estimated build date, then an actual build date with the VINs of the cars, then a date the cars were shipped from Japan. It's not clear to me if they get any other notices before the cars actually arrive.
I've put all this together from previous postings on this group and FitFreak, and from what my dealer told me. Since people don't always use the same terminology, I'm not sure this is 100% correct; there may be other steps. And, as I noted in the post just above yours, the salesman I dealt with says that you can't trust the dates anyway!
and hyes 6 weeks is a good estimate on how long after production it should arrive at the dealership.
He suggested we put down a deposit and then he'd put the allocations department to work to try to trade one of the two they have coming in this month for one like we're wanting. I'm rather leery of putting down a deposit, though, without some kind of timeframe -- last time I put down a deposit on a high-demand vehicle, the dealer kept us waiting for 7 months always claiming it'd be 'just a few more weeks' before finally admitting he hadn't done anything whatsoever to try to trade for the vehicle we wanted, and we were no closer to getting one than we had been the day we placed the order.
It seems to me that the dealer ought to be able to see if there's a vehicle available for trade *before* I put down a deposit. I suppose that theoretically that could leave them in an awkward position should they arrange a trade and the buyer then decline to take the car, but given the speed with which Fits are flying off the lots, I doubt they'd have a difficult time finding another buyer for it. Is it fairly common practice to require a deposit before attempting a trade?
I may try offering to put down a deposit if they'll agree to add a line saying that I automatically get my deposit back if they haven't acquired the car I'm looking for by a certain date.
I'd keep searching around, if you have the patience for it. Just keep repeating that you don't want any add-ons and won't buy from any dealer that insists on them, and you'll probably eventually find one willing to deal with you on those terms.
I have a Fit ordered that's supposedly slated for early January production, they're telling me I'll get it at the end of February, we'll see though.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Don't worry about driving in the mountains - look forward to it instead. Keep your gas tank full, watch out for animals, and don't get overconfident when road conditions are slippery. Our trip was delayed for 5 hours because they closed the road for an accident on the icy roads.
I've run across people wanting as much as $800 above title and tags for documentation fees, and one guy even wanted $500 for temporary tags on top of an $800 documentation fee. It takes some work, but there are dealers out there who will sell for car price (use the 'build and price your fit' feature at the Honda web site to see what that should be for your configuration), tax, title, and tags. I'd just say goodbye to anyone asking for a document fee on top of that.
I don't know what standard sales tax on vehicles is in Arizona, but that info shouldn't be too hard to come by. Tags and licensure IME shouldn't add up to any more than $200 at the very most, though I don't know about Arizona's fees in particular.
BTW, $600 in markup fees probably is close to average, or even a bit low -- but it's probably also avoidable, if you're willing to keep walking out until you can find a dealer willing to sell without a markup. Out of 20 or 30 dealers contacted, I found only 2 willing to do that, so it's not necessarily easy -- but they are out there. If you want the window tinting you can always have it done just as well and much less expensively yourself after you pick up the vehicle
Still, for the value conscious shopper, its good to know that the Yaris can be had for nearly 1k less with similar safety features.
Anyone have opinions on the extended warranty ($1500/100,000 miles)?
We have never had a problem with any of our five previous Hondas that would have been covered by an extended warranty. In fact, the total we paid for repairs on all five Hondas together (excluding routine maintenance and collision damage) is less than the cost of the extended warranty we were offered on the Fit.
Are you waiting on a MT or an auto?
It is my understanding they had to wait with my end of july order for somewhere around thanksgiving because of the timing of the production, so I wonder.
Thanks in advance.
and hyes 6 weeks is a good estimate on how long after production it should arrive at the dealership.
What differences are there with the manuals vs the autos? I ordered a manual, and I get a sense that they have a certain period of production devoted solely to manuals but I have no clue.
Please help! and thanks for whatever you can tell me.
I'd keep searching around, if you have the patience for it. Just keep repeating that you don't want any add-ons and won't buy from any dealer that insists on them, and you'll probably eventually find one willing to deal with you on those terms.
The only extra I wanted was installed floor mats and that was what I signed up for in the "contract".
I hesitate to call around because many places are saying they ahve buyers for all that are ordered and its a question of someone rejecting one, and even then you have no way of knowing what they ordered added on so you might have to pick up those add ons if someone cancels.
I am waiting on a MT, and now my current radiator is leaking so I am left with the dilemma...do I put a few hundred bucks into a piece of crap while waiting 8-10 weeks for a car, do I call around and pay more for add ons I didnt want, or do I just go on a hunt for a car I dont want made by someone other then honda?
Grrrr....
Still, for the value conscious shopper, its good to know that the Yaris can be had for nearly 1k less with similar safety features
Does the yaris have ABS available? IMO that is worth a bit of the extra as well as the satisfaction of buying a car that will last 200-300K miles. Plus it has plenty of other interior goodies, and I dont know if the 1000 price difference given includes basics like AC and CD player. Then there are those two doors, the magic seat, keyless entry, and cruise that i will get with my Fit. (Whenever the hell it gets here!)
I might have found a slightly better deal with enough effort, but there's not a lot of difference between invoice and MSRP on this car, so I'm happy enough. The order was placed with one of only two dealers out of 30+ we contacted who didn't either ask for more than MSRP or inflate the price with unwanted accessories or fee-padding. I'm happy with the dealer individually, but the shopping process itself was quite a headache and I'm very glad to be done with it.
Like I said, though, I'm happy with the deal I eventually arranged. And I'll be even happier once the car gets here!
Probably in response to the Fit, Toyota now offers a "package C" which combines power doors, steering, CD, ABS, and curtain air bags, plus sliding rear seats. I haven't competitively priced the yaris, but one Phoenix dealer offered me $15,631 otd. ("Your IDP*:$ $13924.00 [+] $1127.84 Tax, $205.00 Title & License $ 5 AZ tire Tax & $369 Doc fees= Out the Door: $15630.84").
The deal-breaker against Yaris for me is the two side doors, versus four for Fit. Worth it, if you think about a baby carseat. Plus Fit's cargo space is more than Yaris. I've owned Toyota's my whole life, currently own an Echo (highly recommend), and actually prefer the simplicity of yaris's insides compared with the Fit. But the doors and cargo are enough for me to wait a couple months as long as I can find msrp plus no add ons for the Fit. And that's the rub!