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BMW 335i 2007+

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  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Member Posts: 1,926
    Yep, it's just a style thing. Just as a convertible costs more than any of the models. You pay more money for, literally, less car. I've never understood the logic in that. :confuse: There's not that much "technology" that goes into convertibles.
  • flightnurseflightnurse Member Posts: 2,217
    Supply and Demand, more Sedans are built then coupes, its pretty simple...
  • dhanleydhanley Member Posts: 1,531
    I think there is a difference--the coupe comes with the sport suspension by default. There are a few other small things, IIRC.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    Is that true for the xi coupe?
  • dhanleydhanley Member Posts: 1,531
    Ah, you're right. My brain had a hard time coming to grips with AWD+coupe. ;)
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    Yeah, it does seem like a weird combination.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,533
    they may be a starbge combination, but on the road here in NY, the onle 3er Coupes I see are 328xi. Maybe the opccasional 335i Coupe. But 90% 328xi.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • flightnurseflightnurse Member Posts: 2,217
    Come out west, here in PHX I see more 335i coupes, then 328i coupes..
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,533
    northeast, people are AWD crazy and they think they need AWD for the maybe 5X a year it snows.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Member Posts: 1,926
    Seems like anybody north of the Mason-Dixon line think AWD is mandatory. I don't get it. No sooner than it snows up there, they have the snow plows out. I went up to NY/NJ in December one year, and the roads were as clean as a whistle as far as snow/ice was concerned. There was the very occasional spot of black ice, but there's no drive configuration that can do anything about that. Physics is as physics does.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    Not mandatory, but highly recommended. I agree though, seeing a lot of 328xi. Also, lot of G35x.
  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    It's a great traction advantage for people in the know. There is no thinking just fact.

    Regards,
    OW
  • r34r34 Member Posts: 178
    The city is ok but the suburbs may not be that good. I would not drive a RWD in winter especially after the storm we had yesterday and last week.
  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    It only takes one bad one to know the benefit. Both drive trains have their strengths/weaknesses. AWD gets the traction nod.

    Regards,
    OW
  • dhanleydhanley Member Posts: 1,531
    Eh--i live in chicago, burbs, rwd, no DSC at all. It's not a problem. Throw snow tires on there, and you can zip past the AWD SUV's who think they can run all-seasons all year.

    AWD is way, way way, way, oversold. It only helps you accelerate in the snow, not turn or stop, and the latter two are what keeps you safe in the snow. And people who think it gives them a "traction advantage" never switch to snow tires.
  • cctdicctdi Member Posts: 82
    The ground clearance for 335xi is one inch higher than 335i which is about 5.2; I got a 07 S8, the car gets as low as 3.7 inches, gets scratched easily on the front chin, not good on the accumulated snow roads either, otherwise I would have gotten the 335i with clearance about 4.2 in the line with A4 and E-Class. Yes, here in South Jersey, I really don’t have to deal with too much snow. I got 06 Highlander Hybrid and 07 Touareg V10 TDI and I need no more awd car, somehow, the cars with less than 5 inches ground clearance do not sit too well in my mind.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    AWD is way, way way, way, oversold. It only helps you accelerate in the snow, not turn or stop, and the latter two are what keeps you safe in the snow.

    I disagree, ever get stuck on a major throughfare? I buy AWD because I live in a temperate climate with the propensity toward snow. Accelerating in the snow is the advantage of AWD especially with 4 snow tires. Having the front wheels bite into a turn is also an advantage. As far as stopping goes...well we all have to stop. So AWD mitigates two of the three points you made.

    Throw snow tires on there, and you can zip past the AWD SUV's who think they can run all-seasons all year.

    Yes a lumbering SUV, not my Forester XT.
  • mk0974amk0974a Member Posts: 8
    Hi Guys,

    I own a 2007 BMW 335i coupe and just moved to the Minneapolis area and I was wondering if any of you had recommendations as to which is the best BMW dealership when it comes to servicing the car and also with a good detail shop? My car is sapphire Black and so I'm really careful about the paint and wanted to know if anyone also had recommendations when it came to car washes and detail shops in the twin cities area. Thanks a lot for the info guys!
  • rworrellrworrell Member Posts: 149
    Hi, mk:

    We're in Mpls (Hopkins, actually) and we've bought from both in-town dealers (Sears and Motorwerks). Really, they both provide great service. MW is a little more high pressure on the sales side, but they both are excellent for service. They can be sticklers about loaners if you didn't buy from them (and this is allowed by BMWNA--I checked), but maybe you can explain that you just moved here and see if they'll make an exception for you.

    I'm not sure where you are living in the TCs, but I can recommend both Mint Condition and Sterling Enterprises for excellent detail work (the owner of Sterling is in the local BMW Car Club--nice guy, but a little pricey).

    Once you're out of service or for any non-warranty work now, Orr Autosport in Eden Prairie is definitely the place to go. They do very good work at reasonable prices, plus they provide a lot of support to the local car club.

    Welcome to the Twin Cities!
  • jmarounjmaroun Member Posts: 151
    To my knowledge, usually every three years, BMW updates minor body styling elements in their cars. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The 2006 330i sedan body style is comming up to the three year mark. Is there any word on upcomming style changes? I leased a 330i in 06. I hope to get the 335i coupe who's body style has been around since 07. It's nice but a touch bland, and the interior is identical to my 330's. Other than the twin-turbos, and two less doors, there's not much more to look forward to compared to the 330i.

    Any word on possible changes for the 09 models?

    Joseph
    San Diego
    my blog: http://www.carspace.com/blogs/enthusiastsdilemma08
  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    "To my knowledge, usually every three years, BMW updates minor body styling elements in their cars. Please correct me if I'm wrong."

    That doesn't always hold true. The 1997 debut of the E39 5-Series (which was released in late winter or early spring of 1996) lasted through the summer of 2000, effectively meaning that specific look lasted four and a half years. The new(er) E60 5-Series is similar in that the four model years between 2004 and 2007 look identical, and the "freshening" of the 2008 was so slight that unless the two versions were side-by-side, you'd be hard pressed to tell which was which.

    That said, that doesn't mean that BMW won't freshen the E90 for 2009. ;)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • flightnurseflightnurse Member Posts: 2,217
    The 335i sedan and coupe should get some HP increase, the 135i has 6 more HP then the 3 series. But for less then 5K you can have your 335i beat the new M3 just go to www.vishnutunning.com and check it out. Thier 335i walks from a E55...
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    According to BMW's website, the 335 and 135 both have 300hp.
  • flightnurseflightnurse Member Posts: 2,217
    At the Detriot autoshow it was posted that the 135 had 306hp, and it was posted on BMW website as well. I took a pictiure of the posting at the show but its VERY hard to read it. I do know that when BMW first posted the HP figures on thier website for 135 it was rated 6 hp more then 335.. I guess someone didn't like that.
  • mk0974amk0974a Member Posts: 8
    Hey thanks for the information - i'm actually in Eden Prairie, but am only going to be here for six months, so hopefully no need for any non-warranty work! I think I'm going to try Sterling Enterprises to have the car detailed once we get a few days of clear weather in. Any other 335 coupe drivers in the twin cities area on the board?
  • rworrellrworrell Member Posts: 149
    You realize you may not have picked the best 6 months of the year from a weather standpoint, right? ;)

    If you're in EP, it might be easier for you to work with Mint Condition. Not only are they in EP, but they will do a local pickup and dropoff of your car--pretty convenient service. We've used them a couple of times--you'd be happy with either Sterling or them, but the convenience might tip it to using Mint Condition.
  • mk0974amk0974a Member Posts: 8
    lol, trust me it wasn't by choice - but I have to move every six months for my job. When i first bought the car last March, I was in Connecticut and we had a really bad snow storm and I was surprised how well the car held up with summer tires. However, since then the car has gotten progressively worse in the snow (I'm guessing the wear on the tires) and since I move around I haven't gotten snow tires because it would be a pain to lug them around. Are you using snow tires? Other then the snow I really have enjoyed this car, I think for the money there's nothing else out there with this combination of speed and luxury.
  • rworrellrworrell Member Posts: 149
    Yes, I have Dunlop Winter Sport M3s mounted on separate wheels so I can swap them out in winter/spring. Just so you know (I'm not from MN and this really surprised me), even though the coldest weather usually ends in February, the snowiest weather is often in March and April. Summer tires are probably not going to cut it here if we get some decent snow.

    With the Dunlops, I've never had a problem with my RWD 335. Great car!
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,533
    This afternoon I saw a gorgeous 335i Coupe.... Sparkling Graphite with Red Leather and Sport Package. It was stunning. I'm not usually a fan of the ubiquitous Silvers & Greys out there, but I really dig Sparkling Graphite. On paper (or the computer screen), it isn't all that impressive of a color, but it really looks great on the live sheetmetal. My Mom has an '08 328xi Sedan (Sparkling Graphite/Black Leather) that caught my eye and made me into the color.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    Nice!

    I love black but I'd take this color also. The red is stunning but a statistical ticket magnet color!

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    Regards,
    OW
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,533
    Red is not only stunning, but very easy to keep looking good. It is almost as easy to care for as a Silver or White car. It doesn't look dirty unless it is caked in salt and shines so nicely when cleaned and waxed.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • jmarounjmaroun Member Posts: 151
    I'm currently debating colors. Here are my opinions:

    Black: The ultimate nocturnal embodiment of the car and it seems to represent the 3series' original and truest ethos. The draw back with black is that the paint absorbs/blocks much of the car's beauty. Beauty in details and the car as a whole is hidden forever unless you focus and get a close look. On the other hand, black brings the car true beauty unto itself in any lighting.

    White: This color really shows off the car's exterior beauty most completely. Everything is exposed simulataneously and immediately, from side panel surfaces, to the front lower fascia. For example, the front lower fascia in white looks aggressive and sporty because the edges along the very lowest surfaces can be seen in all their glory while in black are invisible and are easilly dismissed as shadow. White gives the most to the eye. White however lacks a touch of Id so to speak. I believe that could be alleviated by tinting the windows slightly..but tinting may not be legal in your state. (not sure if legal in California)

    Montego Blue: I believe Montego Blue lies inbetween Black and White in terms of optical nudity. Equally so from an emmotional sense. Montego blue has a touch of playfullness to it that on one hand is irresistable and refreshing yet on the other lowers its integrity (seriousness).

    These are just my impressions and I would appreciate your opinions on the car's exterior and interior colors. I'm not sure which car I'll pick..but I'm leaning towards Montego Blue.

    Joseph
    San Diego
    my blog: http://www.carspace.com/blogs/enthusiastsdilemma08
  • clemboclembo Member Posts: 253
    I just ordered 335 cab in Montego Blue w/saddle on saturday. I decided to get a 335 a few weeks ago but was pondering the color for a while. The color choices aren't great - too many grey's and silvers that are similar. The Monocao Blue looks very dark and almost black. I did see a black car w/red interior that looked great if you want to get a little loud. The white w/tan looks good as well.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,208
    Congrats, lucky you! Which dealer did you order from, Herb? Gallery?

    Today was bonus/raise announcement day at work. I think I can order that Aveo I've had my eye on... :sick:

    Just kidding, somewhat. Better than expected, but still just too many practical ways to apply the extra scheckels... Just a minute, there's someone at the door... IRS? Anybody know what the heck IRS stands for? :surprise:

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • clemboclembo Member Posts: 253
    Hi Dada,

    I ordered from Wagner in Shrewsbury, that is who I got my A8 from and they are close to where I live. I have an older 330 cab that I got from Gallery, they are fine but service is a hassle there.

    I suggest that you stop being so responsible and spend the bonus on you. Maybe a chip and a set of Pilot Sports for the TL and enjoy the spring. I didn't tell my wife about ordering the 335 until I got home from the dealer. She was a little upset but then I remineded her that although I probably spend a little too much on cars, it is better than spending my extra $ on a younger girlfriend - she shut up then.
  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    Anybody know what the heck IRS stands for?


    335 I-Rally Sport!

    Regards,
    OW
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,208
    Good advice, Jim. I think I need a several step program to remove this problem I have with spending on myself... Of course, if EMC stock would just get back to $100pps, maybe, just maybe... Nah, just like in '00 I probably wouldn't be smart enough to sell. :(

    Gallery is under big time construction, looks like BMW/Mazda biz is good. Or they're jealous of Herb's new Lexus store (I call it the Lexus Plantation), trying to keep up with the Chambers.

    Come spring, Toyo's replace the Dunlop WinterSports and the Zaino ritual begins again on the TL!

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,208
    "335 I-Rally Sport!"

    Funny, I didn't know that the 335 had their own Agents? So, when the 335 I-Rally Sport Agent comes back, all I have to tell him is that I don't have a 335, go away! Thanks, OW!

    Savin' the bonus for an XK... which could lead to an X-Wife. :blush:

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,375
    Red is not only stunning, but very easy to keep looking good. It is almost as easy to care for as a Silver or White car. It doesn't look dirty unless it is caked in salt and shines so nicely when cleaned and waxed.

    And, just like picking the fastest wheel design, weight is an important factor with paint as well. Solid colors weigh less as they lack the additional mass of the metal particles found in metallic hues.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • dhanleydhanley Member Posts: 1,531
    Plus, there's no metal flecks to reflect radar. Red is a "stealth color". No one will see you. ;)
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    Plus, red often has no clearcoat.

    Just watch out - it's the likeliest color to oxidize
  • elanzillottaelanzillotta Member Posts: 6
    Hey guys,

    I've got an 07 335 with 15k on it. I know run flat performance tires don't last that long but I've already had to replace one tire a couple of months ago and I just discovered a bubble in a second tire today (most likely due to potholes and crappy streets in Los Angeles). And as you know the potenzas cost a pretty penny. My question to you guys is:

    1) Do any of you buy another set of less expensive (non run flat) performance/sporty everyday driving tires and swap them for everyday use? I'd just have to buy a jack and a spare I suppose. And once the lease is up you can just put the run flats back on? If so, what specific tires do you recommend?

    2) If the above is not recommended, what websites can you find good deals on Potenza's. Or if you're in the LA area, what tire shops can you recommend.

    Any advice is well appreciated.

    Thanks, Eric L. :confuse:
  • clemboclembo Member Posts: 253
    You and I must both have the same "hold EMC disease", I have lost a couple of new cars in depreciation of that stock. The Gallery folks will never be able to keep up with Herb, he has unlimited capital at his disposal, ultimately customers like us win with better dealership options.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,533
    So last Friday on My Dad's way to work while waiting at a light to make a left turn, somebody pulls out over a double yellow line to cut off a tractor trailer. In his haste, he swerves and totally takes out the driver's side mirror on my Dad's '07 X5 si. Thankfully my Dad and his 2 passengers (7 month old Great Danes, Mollie & Maddie) were not hurt. By the time My Dad realized what had happened, the guy was a mile down the road. :mad: Then a nice roack hits the windshield about 10 minutes later. Bad news. The entire mirror is shot. The windshield has to be replaced. The mirror will be just under $1000 to replace and the windshield will cost about $1500 installed :sick:

    Needless to say my Dad was less than happy that day. But I always like to look at the bright side of things. Last night he dropped his truck off at the dealer to get fixed. My phone rings and he says "Guess what they gave me as a loaner car?" I say "I don't know, a 328xi wagon?"

    Dad: "No"
    Me: "an X3?"
    Dad: "No"
    Me: "Mom's car? (which is an '08 328xi)"
    Dad: "Close, a 335xi"
    Me: "Are you joking? How's it drive?"
    Dad: "I don't know, I'm just getting into it now, but I knew you'd be excited so I had to call and tell you"

    Fast forward to today. I was itching to snatch the keys from his desk all AM. We were so busy at work. He eats lunch, I eat lunch. Finally at about 3:30pm in the pouring rain I get a chance.

    I'm a big BMW fan. I'm not a horsepower junkie. I favor balance and handling. I've always said that if I get a BMW to replace my Prelude in 5+ years from now it would be a 328i of a 128i. I got into the 335xiA (saddled with 2 options I wouldn't want, AWD & Slushbox) and fired it up. The engine growled to life. I gave the car a little gas and it lunged forward. I was impressed already. I made a few quick turns and found an empty side street and pushed the gas pedal down half way. Instantly the car gained speed, Like a small V8. I felt like the Millenium Falken in Hyper Drive mode. This car will bring out the hooligan in all of us. After a few minutes, I parked. I want more. My next car (if it is a BMW) will have this motor in it. I can't wait to get my hands on a RWD 335i with a 6-Speed stick and Sport Suspension!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    When I went on the BMW Susan G. Komen Drive For The Cure, I drove everything they had. The 335 compared to the 330 blew me away. That thing is scary fast and you don't even know it. I don't know how BMW did it, they made the good ole 330i seem like it was a second rate car.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,274
    Love the Drive for the Cure..

    I also drove a 335i with sport pkg.... It can get up to 115 MPH very, very fast... Thank goodness for those big brakes!!

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  • dhanleydhanley Member Posts: 1,531
    Yep, that turbo 3.0 is a monster. Even better, you can get a dinan chip, keep your warranty, and get 384hp and 421lb-ft.

    I'm sure it comes with a mode to make you invisible to cops, too. ;)
  • jmarounjmaroun Member Posts: 151
    There's alot of reliability issues being reported for this 335i.
    Especially regarding faulty fuel pump, sticky auto-transmissions, and various electrical problems. That's not even mentioning the high engine temperature problem that's supposed to be fixed with an oil cooler. (not everyone gets the oil cooler).

    It really worries me, even though I'll be leasing. Reliability has its virtues.
    For me, I value a car that brings fun, but also peace of mind, safety, and is hassle free.

    I'm seriously considering a 335i for my next lease. It'll be a manual, so the auto transmission problems won't be an issue. I also won't get the navigation nor Premium package which should reduce the electrical complexity of the car. (basically, I'm thinking of only getting the Sports Package..the rest stock).

    The real question is regarding the faulty oil pump and over-heating issue.
    They say that cars with the Sports package will be issued an oil cooler to solve the high temperature issue, but I still haven't found that stated officially somewhere. A Dinan rep has told me that some 335i's don't come with oil cooler even with the Sports Package. Folks with the faulty oil pump seem to be getting the shaft..some of which must wait an unspecified amount of time for part delivery. Some folks have reported waiting more than a month! Does anyone know the final deal on fuel pump problem?? Will there be a recall?

    I tell ya, all this stuff really makes what should be an easy decision difficult.
    BMW needs to get its act together on this.

    Joseph
    San Diego
    my blog: http://www.carspace.com/blogs/enthusiastsdilemma08
  • 00boxsters00boxsters Member Posts: 202
    I have a 2008 335i and use it daily in an 'average way' since 11/07. I live in south Florida. I have an automatic and no oil cooler. It has been entirely trouble free and on 90 degree days in stop and go traffic and running 80mph plus across alligator alley, it has never over heated. I too was concerned over the banter here and about regarding the overheating issue. For me, it has been a non-issue while being very sensitive to the temp gauge.

    There is little reason to post non-issues but I felt compelled to write this because those numerous past overheating posts (which were legit for the writers) nearly kept me from buying my current ride and missing out on a very satisfying daily experience.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    There's alot of reliability issues being reported for this 335i.

    Other than internet boards, where? Consumers Reports? Newpapers? Credible reporting sources? Would you buy stock based on internet recommendations in chat rooms? I don't, why would I listen to owner complaints if I wouldn't buy stock?
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