mpbowman, In terms of TOWING capacity there is almost no difference between the F-250 and F-350.
In terms of CARRYING capacity the F-250 can carry about 1500 pounds safely. The F-350 can carry about 3000 pounds safely. These estimates are based upon my '99 F-250, SC and diesel. Your results may vary.
I've been told by a trustworthy service advisor that the only difference between the F-250 and F-350 is the spring capacity and shocks. The frame and suspension is the same.
So, if you need to carry the weight go woth the 350.
I think that your payload numbers are off a bit. My '98 dodge quadcab 1500 4x4 has a payload just under 1500# and I have carried over 2,000# in it. A superduty with the v10 should have a payload over 3,100#. Never looked up a 350 as I have no interest in dreiving a brick around.
jcmdie, Without considering center of gravity calculations or specific axle loading the numbers are derived as follows.
My F-250 Super Duty, Super Cab, long bed, moderately loaded tool box, full of fuel and driver weighs 7060 pounds on a certified scale. The GVWR is 8800 pounds. Not wanting to exaggerate, that's "about 1500 pounds". As I recall, the F-350 has a GVWR of 10,000 pounds. An F-350, similarly equipped should weigh about what my F-250 weighs. Hence the F-350 capacity should be "about 3000 pounds".
I have no doubt that your truck or either of the F-Series could carry a heavier load. It is just my preference not to carry the heavier load.
"My F-250 Super Duty, Super Cab, long bed, moderately loaded tool box, full of fuel and driver weighs 7060 pounds on a certified scale"
I know what you're trying to say, Rich, but all that stuff listed above is ALSO included in you payload. The bottom line is like you stated, if the trucks weigh about the same the diff in payloads gonna' be the diff in GVW. I would venture to guess all the stuff listed above weighs close to 800lbs putting your payload at "about" 2300 lbs.
From this site, a super duty, lariat, super cab, 4wd SB has a payload of 2,994 pounds and a towing capacity of 13,700#. This is with the 5.4 liter engine
modvptnl, You're right! But how much of the "total" payload is usable? Me 230, stuff in tool box (and the box) 400, fuel 250. Easy over 800 pounds. So then my truck probably weighs 6000 to 6200 dry for a 2600 to 2800 payload. (Remember that diesel is a heavy sucker! Ford even has a different shock specification for diesels.) Really, I wouldn't want to carry much more than 1500 pounds. That would still leave me below the 8800 GVWR.
Was told by my dealer today that my F250 4x4 SD will be delayed because Ford has stopped building SDs with steel wheels. Supposed to be a supplier problem. No scheduling dates or build dates. Also, no date to return to building. Anyone else heard this?
I ordered my new 2001 SD crew last week. Was also told that the steel wheels were not available and would hold up the order. I just upgraded to the optional wheel and the order went through. You may want to consider this.
Thanks for the info Steven. I amended my order and hopefully I will get a build date soon. I had the order in for 4 weeks before I found out it was on hold. Ford never told me -- I just asked for a scheduled date or build date and that's when the dealer told me.
This is for you folks that are waiting for your SD to come in. Tell your salesperson to give you the VIN# as soon as the dealer receives it, Then go to...www,bnsf.com Then go to tracking tools and follow directions. Should work good!!!
I know this was addressed before but I can't find it...Have "01 250 sc lb v10 1700 miles...LOVE IT!! but... I have the power trailer tow mirrors and the passenger side is just standard glass,can't see worth a darn.Saw something about replacing the glass with excursion mirror?Can anyone fill me in? thanks
I happen to love the flat mirror. It allows you to tilt the mirrors down to the point that you can see your tires. I don't want the objects to be closure than the appear...I want to see the true to life. If you back trailers often enough you should appreciate this.
I ALWAYS put the spot mirrors on everything I own. This is for the rest of my highway driving.
BUT....I do not put them in the bottom corner of the mirror as suggested on most packages. I put them in the upper outside corner.
To answer your question about Excusion mirrors...it was stated the best/cheapest way to go is to get a replacement mirror glass ONLY. Don't get the whole mirror, too expensive. Replace the glass or have a local bodyshop do it for you.
My question is ...do they make the convex mirror in the trailer tow mirror style? Drove through a Ford lot today,they had Excursions with the regular mirrors that were convex but the trailer tow ones were not. I agree Fortuf that the flat are nice sometimes but for in traffic lane changes,etc. you can't see real well on the pass. side. THANKS!
I ordered an F-350 CC TD LB SRW and am thinking I want to change the color to Bright Amber, but haven't seen it. The color chips are too small for me to get the idea. Does anyone have Bright Amber, how do you like it, and what do you compare it to? Is it too much? Are we talking about a big orange pumpkin?
My dad has a Y2K F350 CC DRW 4x4 Lariat in Bright Amber. It is different. It's a good looking color and you won't see to many vehicles on the road in that color. I would say go for it.
I know there has been a lot of talk about the MPG of the F-250 V10. It seems that most people are giving ratings at 65-75 MPH. Is there anyone who is guaging their V10 milage at about 55 MPH? Also, I was wondering what peoples thoughts were on whether to go with a V10 or the 5.4 V8 in a F-250 SD/SC 4x4?
For only about $500 more you get the V10, and will never say I wish I had more power. The gas mileage difference doesn't exixst. But now I have heard of a $1000 rebate for V10 equipped trucks. Its a no brainer even without a rebate.
I noticed above that a couple of guys made mention of working with fleets of Ford diesels. I can get a great deal on a F-350 chassis cab with diesel and 6 speed. My question is if any of you have experience with an F-350 with a dumper? How much payload was left after installing a dumper? I am not looking to haul dirt and gravel every day but once or twice a year. More often will be mulch, bark, logs and brush. Any help would be appreciated.
I have a F250 crew 2wd sb 3.73 rear end with 6.8 ?V-10. I would not consider under any circumstance the 5.4 for this truck unless I lived in totally flat country and never intended to do anything but cruise the highway empty, which is not what these trucks are for. I think a 5.4 with a 3.73 would be a disappointing work truck. I agree with fordtuf,.....spend the $500 and don't look back.
ORDERED MY F-250 SD/CREWCAB/SHORTBOX/V10/XLT LARIET FULLY LOADED .I DRIVE ABOUT 40 KM. TO AND FROM WORK EACH DAY IN MANITOBA CANADA AND GET A AVERAGE OF 400 KILOMETERS PER TANK /EMPTY.IN THE SUMMER I PULL A 28.5 FT.TERRY 5TH WHEEL AND GET AVERAGE OF 375 TO 390 KL. PER TANK AT 100 TO 120 KM. PER HR .THIS TRUCK IS FOR PULLING AND YOU HAVE TO TRY IT TO BELEAVE IT AND I HAVE HAD FORD TRUCKS ALL MY LIFE.IT WAS DELIVERED WITH LIMITED SLIP IN 1999 BUT THE DEALER DID NOT KNOW IT WAS AVIL. TILL I READ IT HERE.THEY WERE NOT HAPPY BUT CHANGED THE ORDER TO INCLUDE IT .JUST ORDERED NEW 2000 FORD EXP. POWER /MANUAL TRAILER MIRRORS AND THEY JUST BOLT ON IN PLACE OF THE ELEPHANT EARS IT CAME WITH .THE NEW MIRRORS COST ME $395.00 can.money but they look better and are 6 inches narrower then the old one ,and give me better vision when pulling which is the main reason for me buying the truck since i hope to retire in 2 years and hope to have it all outfitted by then so we can hit the road in style.
I am currently in the market for 2001 F-250 Super Cab Lariat. The only interior that is currently available is medium parchment. The brochure says that medium graphite is an option for "late availability." Does anyone know the date for "late availability?"
f250dilemma you are right to look hard at this problem. If you are counting on this being your only vehicle and are forced to drive it in town a lot, I would consider the shorter Supercab. I have the crew cab short bed and it is a real chore to park in diagonal spots and parallel spots are just about out of the question. The total length difference is about 15", wheelbase difference is about 14" and the turning circle is 4 feet different. If you can live with the super crew instead you might want to consider it strongly. I love my truck for what it is but if we are going in to town we go out of our way to use the Suburban which is a sports car compared to the truck. If you have detailed questions let me know at gglasscock@home.com
rhwoodpecker - Thanks for the info on the CC. We're also looking at the Chevy super crew, but have two little kids still in car seats. I think the back seats on the Chevy are a little larger than the Ford. Safety for my kids is a real big issue here. I'm not comfortable how the car seats hang over the edge of the seats in either extended cab truck, that's why we're looking at the crew cab. It's going to be a secondary vehicle/work truck. I'd like to drive it when it snows and to cut down on the mileage on my car too. The F150 crew is out because of the VERY short bed. I would like to be able to drive it confidently and not have to plan my trips around parking problems. I really love the truck, but we're both a little apprehensive about the size. Any more comments or any experience with extended cabs? Thanks!
Take into consideration what type of carseats you are using. There is no headrest in the back seat. If your kids are tall and require a booster seat their heads will be glass high unless you use boosters that have a back. Take you kids and seats and try one out. I have four kids 8, 6, 4, and almost 2. I agree with your assessment on most of the seats in the super cabs. The bottom of the seat does not work too well with some car seats. I had a Chevy ext cab before this Crew cab and boosters worked well with it. Kids 30lbs and up. And the Fisher Price seat we had worked well too. The only drawback is that the seats are so vertical that sleeping on the road was tough because their heads would flop around. The crew cab seat is more reclined like a car and they rest better. We have taken several 5-7 hour trips pulling a camper in the crew cab and it works well. If you live somewhere that is hot in the summer I strongly recommend the darkest tint you can get. I did not get it and the A/C doesn't really do that great of a job in the peak summer months. You will also like steps. Small kids climbing in and out of it are scary.
I ordered a F-250 Lariat Super cab on Oct. 16. The dealer said it should take between 10 and 12 weeks to come in. Does anyone have any recent experience as to the time it took to receive this truck. Thanks in advance. Bob
I am thinking of replacing my F150 w/ a 2000/2001 F250 SD CC SB/PSD. Does anyone know if Ford has fixed the problems with premature brake system failure/rotor warpage? I have had nothing but good luck out of my F150 expect for brake problems. Thought it was just my truck with its 160K miles and the amount of driving I do. Let me know if Ford has corrected this problem that is evident in the 99/2000 F250 line.
A friend has put in an aftermarket chip in his '99 F250 PSD. He claims that he has gotten about a 5 mile/gallon increase in economy. His horsepower and torque has also increased (especially noticeable when acceleration from a stop; there is not the characteristic lag in power). Does anybody here have any experience or knowledge concerning these chips? Do they void the factory warranty? Are they available for early '90s gas engines? Thank you for your help.
Not sure if these are backup orders or not. Sounds like most dealers tell customers that delivery will be in about 6-10 weeks. Course, that's a month difference. I ordered our 250 SD PwrStroke on 10/5 and am still waiting. Supposed to have been built 11/20, released by factory 11/21, and now, who knows. I check bnsf.com twice a day since 11/21 and still no record of it having been either accepted for shipment or shipped. Dealer told me it should be here week of 12/7. Will wait and see.
jbeard, the chips affect the turbo diesels much more than the gas because it's able to modify fuel delivery and turbo boost. with gas v10, the performance increase is much less than the powerstroke.
jimveta, thank you for the info and the web sites. I suppose that there will also be less of a fuel economy gain in gas engines as well. I am not sure if the chip will be cost effective (1 or 2 miles per gallon difference probably would not be worth it).
Hey Guys, Thanks for all the scoop/advice/opinions. With the help of all of you I think I made the most informed decision I could have ever made. And now I have the best truck I've ever owned.I took delivery on a 2001, F250,cc,v10 on 10 Nov 2000. It's all you guys said it would be! But, the Owners manual recommends 5W-20. I live in the southeast sun belt, pull a 4500lb travel trailer. What oil should I use? And when should I make that first change? Thanks for your time and response.
Mobil 1, MOTORCRAFT oil filters or Mobil 1 filters. If you can't find 5W-20, use 0W-30 in winter, 5W-30 in summer. I would change at first 3,000 mi, then 6,000 after that regardless of type of driving. Check maintenance and synthetic oil posts. If i bought a high end truck, I would use best of everything (zymol wax, synthetic lubricants, best car soap.....)
I placed my order for 2001 f250 sd crew cab in mid July, and I am still waiting. I was calling the ford customer service number sometimes 2 times a week. They kept telling me that it was on materials hold, but couldn't say what specifically. They also kept telling me that the dealer had better info, and that I should contact them. They couldn,t give me anything but lame excusses. Sure can't wait to get it.
Hi Realtor7, I ordered my F-250 in Sept. Build date is between the 4th and 11th of Dec. Dealer called me 2 weeks ago to tell me about a delay on my truck due to the chrome steel wheels. I had to order the delux aluminun wheels to get the order moving. Later.
Same delay here. Ordered F-250 SC PS 4x4 October 5th and as of now, no delivery date in sight. Dealer told me the first of November build was on delay due to the steel wheel problem. Changed my order to the aluminum wheels right then and the truck was built on November 20th. Now I am waiting for delivery. Wonder why it takes so long to get a truck here from Kentucky? Oh well, at least it was built, so they tell me!
Be careful my truck toured the state of Ill.for a month by train before it was unloaded and trucked to WI. Took 38 days from time of leaving factory in Kentucky to Naperville,Ill. I think my truck must of caught the eye of a passing young Mustang going the other way, so it followed her around the state. Ford said they had no answer why it toured Ill. Hope you get your truck soon, it's worth the wait.
If you're having problems with your F-Series Super Duty, or have advise for those with problems, please visit Pickups Topic 2504, Ford F-Series Super Duty problems. Thanks for your participation. ;-)
Fixin' to buy a 250 SD v10 cc Lariat...question is I want to get the PTO option but don't think it is available with the 4sp auto. Is that true? I won't give up the auto for the PTO but the PTO would be nice. Also, I am trying to decide between the Captain's chairs and the split bench...does the bench seat 3 people comfortably? If not, I will just get the Captain's chairs. Thanks to all of you for great info. I have read all of the posts. That's how I decided on the V10. Can't wait. Take care.
HI TO ALL YOU V10 OWNERS. MY 2001 F250 SD CC REPLACES A 96 460CID THE V10 WALKS ALL OVER THE 460. TO THE MOTOR OIL MOBIL MAKES 5W20 IN THE CLEAN BLEND GOOD LUCK ON GETTING IT. IT'S NOT ON THE MARKET YET. BUT MOTORCRAFT BRAND "MADE BUY MOBIL" HAS IT AND IT'S BUY IT AT THE DEALERS ONLY. HOW NICE OF FORD. CALL YOU'RE DEALER FOR THE STICKER SHOCK TO. P.S I ORDER MY TRUCK AUG 15TH AND DROVE IT HOME SEPT 20TH TO ALL YOU GUYS WAITING HANG IN THERE THE TRUCKS ARE WREATH IT.
My 2001 F250 XLT SD CC 4X4 is on order (pleased to be a part of the gang)! I'm comming straight from a Nissan p/u (what can I say, I married into it) I believed the Ford scheduled-production-date of Jan. 1 until I read of all the delays.. we will see. All the SD's seem to have a dramatic rack. For aesthetics, I’m planning on adding a 2” front lift to make it a little more level. Comments? Will this mess with the ride?
Can someone please explain this one to me? (POT) My dealer said that it was a after market device that would allow me to run a pull system (water pump, etc.) off of the Transmission should something like that be needed so I didn't order it. He also said that it would also take away from torque and reduce gas silage. Is he correct?
I don't know the answers to many of your questions, but I do have some answers. 4. 3.55 ratio with PSD? No, the lowest is the 3.73.. However remember the stock tires on a SuperDuty are larger than the F150 tires. So the end ground ratio of a SuperDuty with a 3.73 is just about the same as an F150 with 3.55.
5. Is the Limited Slip worth it? I think so. I only have an 4x2 SuperDuty and the limited slip has helped numerous times on wet fields etc.. (not much snow here yet in NC).
I've not heard that it will hurt MPG's, but your dealer is right that unless you have some aftermarket equipment that would used it, its useless. Dump trucks and many commercial vehicle use a PTO to drive equipment like winches, hydrolic pumps and who knows what else.. The average person has no need for this feature.
Comments
In terms of TOWING capacity there is almost no difference between the F-250 and F-350.
In terms of CARRYING capacity the F-250 can carry about 1500 pounds safely. The F-350 can carry about 3000 pounds safely. These estimates are based upon my '99 F-250, SC and diesel. Your results may vary.
I've been told by a trustworthy service advisor that the only difference between the F-250 and F-350 is the spring capacity and shocks. The frame and suspension is the same.
So, if you need to carry the weight go woth the 350.
Rich
Without considering center of gravity calculations or specific axle loading the numbers are derived as follows.
My F-250 Super Duty, Super Cab, long bed, moderately loaded tool box, full of fuel and driver weighs 7060 pounds on a certified scale. The GVWR is 8800 pounds. Not wanting to exaggerate, that's "about 1500 pounds". As I recall, the F-350 has a GVWR of 10,000 pounds. An F-350, similarly equipped should weigh about what my F-250 weighs. Hence the F-350 capacity should be "about 3000 pounds".
I have no doubt that your truck or either of the F-Series could carry a heavier load. It is just my preference not to carry the heavier load.
Rich
"My F-250 Super Duty, Super Cab, long bed,
moderately loaded tool box, full of fuel and driver
weighs 7060 pounds on a certified scale"
I know what you're trying to say, Rich, but all that stuff listed above is ALSO included in you payload. The bottom line is like you stated, if the trucks weigh about the same the diff in payloads gonna' be the diff in GVW. I would venture to guess all the stuff listed above weighs close to 800lbs putting your payload at "about" 2300 lbs.
You're right! But how much of the "total" payload is usable? Me 230, stuff in tool box (and the box) 400, fuel 250. Easy over 800 pounds. So then my truck probably weighs 6000 to 6200 dry for a 2600 to 2800 payload. (Remember that diesel is a heavy sucker! Ford even has a different shock specification for diesels.) Really, I wouldn't want to carry much more than 1500 pounds. That would still leave me below the 8800 GVWR.
Rich
Long as people realize that that first 800lbs comes off ANYBODIES payload.
go to...www,bnsf.com Then go to tracking tools
and follow directions. Should work good!!!
but... I have the power trailer tow mirrors and the passenger side is just standard glass,can't see worth a darn.Saw something about replacing the glass with excursion mirror?Can anyone fill me in? thanks
I ALWAYS put the spot mirrors on everything I own. This is for the rest of my highway driving.
BUT....I do not put them in the bottom corner of the mirror as suggested on most packages. I put them in the upper outside corner.
To answer your question about Excusion mirrors...it was stated the best/cheapest way to go is to get a replacement mirror glass ONLY. Don't get the whole mirror, too expensive. Replace the glass or have a local bodyshop do it for you.
Bright Amber. It is different. It's a good
looking color and you won't see to many vehicles
on the road in that color. I would say go
for it.
Its a no brainer even without a rebate.
Thank you for your help.
more than the gas because it's able to modify fuel
delivery and turbo boost. with gas v10, the
performance increase is much less than the
powerstroke.
you may want to check out superchips (they have
your truck i'm sure)
http://www.superchips.com
and maybe hypertech:
http://www.hypertech-inc.com
Thanks for all the scoop/advice/opinions. With the help of all of you I think I made the most informed decision I could have ever made. And now I have the best truck I've ever owned.I took delivery on a 2001, F250,cc,v10 on 10 Nov 2000. It's all you guys said it would be! But, the Owners manual recommends 5W-20. I live in the southeast sun belt, pull a 4500lb travel trailer. What oil should I use? And when should I make that first change? Thanks for your time and response.
oil posts. If i bought a high end truck, I would
use best of everything (zymol wax, synthetic
lubricants, best car soap.....)
Congratulations on truck purchase...
They couldn,t give me anything but lame excusses.
Sure can't wait to get it.
I ordered my F-250 in Sept. Build date is between
the 4th and 11th of Dec. Dealer called me 2 weeks
ago to tell me about a delay on my truck due to
the chrome steel wheels. I had to order the delux
aluminun wheels to get the order moving.
Later.
Pocahontas,
Edmunds.com/Host
I plan to order a 250 4x4 SD PSD CC LWB Lariat and I have a couple questions:
1) Can you order a 40/20/40 with power seats on both sides?
2) Are both seats heated with the heated seat option? This didn't appear to be so on the one I drove. Does one button control both sides?
3) There seems to be some overlap in suspension packages. What exactly are the differences between these packages:
a) Heavy-service suspension
b) max front GAWR
c) camper
d) snow plow
4) Is it possible to order a 3.55 or similar with the PSD? If so, will it kill performance?
5) Anybody have feedback on usefullness of limited slip? I live in snow country.
thanks
Thanks!
Jim
4. 3.55 ratio with PSD? No, the lowest is the 3.73.. However remember the stock tires on a SuperDuty are larger than the F150 tires. So the end ground ratio of a SuperDuty with a 3.73 is just about the same as an F150 with 3.55.
5. Is the Limited Slip worth it? I think so. I only have an 4x2 SuperDuty and the limited slip has helped numerous times on wet fields etc.. (not much snow here yet in NC).