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2007 Mazda CX-9



  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    All I know is that you can't build one on the website with both. I wouldn't think it was worth $8k if you couldn't get it that way. I'd just have aftermarket lcd's put in both headrests, and it would still be cheaper than the factory version with just one screen.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Does anyone know for sure that DVD is not available w/ sunroof?

    The Rear Seat DVD Entertainment System is not available with a moon roof. To be honest with you, with the thousands you will be saving going with the CX-9 over the MDX, just go to Best Buy or Circuit City and purchase and have them install a DVD entertainment system.

    You have to ask yourself if a factory entertainment system is really worth thousands more?
  • I would never let the availbility of DVD entertainment dictate the choice of car, particularly because, as you say, there is so much aftermarket stuff out there.

    I was pretty fortunate with my moonroofed CX-7 that I could've got the OEM DVD system if I had wanted it. After looking at the Mazda entertainment system, though, I thought it was cheap and NOT a good value. Frankly, it LOOKED like a tacked-on aftermarket unit. I think I ended up spending $200 on a cheapie dual 7" screen unit that slings over the headrests. Granted, we only use it for long-haul vacation trips, but it serves its purpose for a lot less than the Mazda option.
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    I priced out a sytstem with 4 screens for $1400, which included:

    An indash 6.5" lcd w/ dvd player and 5.1 surround, backup camera, 7.3" lcd in the sunvisor, (2) 7" lcd's in the headrests, (3) wireless headphones, and a center channel speaker

    It makes you wonder why most manufacterers charge upwards of $1200 for their systems with just one 7" screen.
  • gls69gls69 Posts: 24
    I need to replace my wife's 1997 Volvo 850 T-5 which she likes because it has good power, handles well, and can fit two dogs (which she trains for hunting). This may be a strange request, but could anyone comment on a Mazda CX-9 vs a Mercedes GL 450? I am not interested in the price difference. I am mostly interested in a vehicle that holds two dogs + paraphenalia, but that handles as much like a sports car as possible. She also doesn't care about Nav, DVD, etc since we don't have kids and the dogs don't watch the DVD. Also, she already has a Toyota Tundra double cab 4x4 which she uses purely in the field, but it is too big for commuting and bringing the dogs along.
    Thank you in advance for your opinions.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,992
    If you don't need the three rows of the CX-9, you could look at the CX-7 right now and see what you think in terms of space and handling.
  • gls69gls69 Posts: 24
    Good suggestion. We will look at the CX7. In the interim is there any data available on skidpad, slalom, etc on the CX7 vs CX9.
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    The CX-7 is pretty high up in terms of sportiness, like the Acura RDX. Depending on the size of your dogs, you may find it a bit small. The CX-9 gets some of the Zoom-zoom DNA, but it won't be as sporty due to it's size (16" longer than the CX-7). There's 47 cu. ft. behind the second row. I guess it's a bit of a trade-off.

    The GL450 is a much tougher vehicle than the CX-9 in terms of it's chassis. The CX-9 is best relegated to onroad duty, but it is a bit more spacious inside than the Mercedes. Reliability is better for the Mazda, but quality of material definitely goes to the Mercedes. I suppose you get what you pay for in that respect.
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    Here's what "Automobile" magazine had to say about the CX-9 interior:

    "... the interior of the Grand Touring model mixes color and trim in a cool, sophisticated way that even the Lexus RX350 can't match."

    I've driven the RX350 and was very impressed by its interior. Is the Mercedes better than the Lexus?
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    I'm sure it is a bit better. Mercedes uses better leather and cloth materials. They don't have many hard surfaces. The comparison they made seems to be more about flow and design rather than materials.
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    "I'm sure it is a bit better. Mercedes uses better leather and cloth materials"

    How do you know this?
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    I read alot. I'm not really going on personal experience. More on the experiences of others. They may be biased, but if they are, there sure are alot of them.
  • I am interested in the CX-9 to replace my current SUV. I found this information on Mazda's corporate site dated 10.30.06.

    Mazda Starts Production of the CX-9, its Second Crossover SUV for the North American Market

    - Line-off ceremony held at Hiroshima's Ujina Plant No.1 -
    HIROSHIMA, Japan—Mazda Motor Corporation today held a ‘line-off’ ceremony for the CX-9 crossover sport-utility vehicle (SUV) being built for the North American market at the Ujina Plant No.1 near its global headquarters in Hiroshima. Hisakazu Imaki, Mazda's representative director, chairman of the board, president and CEO, along with approximately 450 staff—comprised of several senior executives, union representatives and employees—attended this ceremony. The Mazda CX-9 will be arriving in North American showrooms in early 2007.

    “The CX-9 will be the latest addition to Mazda's product lineup in the all-important North American market, joining the Mazda CX-7, which went on sale there in May”, said Hisakazu Imaki. “CX-9 is a key model aimed at raising the visibility of Mazda in North America and will be an integral part of building the brand. Furthermore, to keep on providing the best Zoom-Zoom products that will exceed our customers' expectations around the globe, we must continue our efforts as 'One Mazda' to build even higher-quality vehicles.”

    The Mazda CX-9 is a seven-seat crossover SUV designed and engineered specifically for the North American market. The CX-9 showcases Mazda's unique design and strong, dynamic driving performance as well as an up-market interior with class-leading space and unmatched versatility. The CX-9 debuted at the New York International Auto Show in April 2006, earning high marks for its versatility and remarkable styling that makes a clean break from traditional medium-sized SUVs.
  • This info was found on the Canadian Website for Mazda under the "Vehicle Comparison" tool (does not include delivery charges):

    GS 2WD: $39,595
    GT 2WD: $43,955
    GS 4WD: $41,595
    GT 4WD: $45,955

    :surprise: :(
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    That's the equivalent of $34k to start out in US dollars. I wonder why the big markup. :confuse:
  • 07xle07xle Posts: 177
    Socialism at work!
  • nxs138nxs138 Posts: 481
    Yep, Canadians can get reamed when it comes to prices. But then again, you don't see many huge SUVs in Canada as you do here in the US, so maybe the lower demand for SUVs this size increases the price.

    The same thing goes for luxury/near luxury cars: I remember when I bought my Audi back in 2000, my buddy in Canada priced it out and the exact same model would have cost him $15k more! I laughed and laughed at him.
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    So you should just go to Canada for the medicine and not the cars. :)
  • So bad I can't buy a car in US and drive it to Canada. This SUV has a lot of goodies but the prices seem high. If I just need a 2WD, I will go for Honda Odyssey. To me, a 2WD CX-9 is just a van and Honda is more spacious, better milage, better re-sale value and so on. My problem is that I do need a 7 passenger(not 5+2 kids) 4WD and with all the options, the CX-9 is $50K! I wish Mazda Canada can offer 0% financing to compensate the high price.
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    I actually doubt that resale is higher on the Odyssey. The crossover market is hot. The 3rd row should be fairly comfortable in it for adults too. You might be able get an AWD Toyota Sienna. I'm not sure if it's available in Canada though.
  • nxs138nxs138 Posts: 481
    $50k CDN is an outrageous price for a CX-9. They won't be selling much of them at that price. Then again, a top of the line Odyssey can run you almost $50k CDN, so it's a matter of choosing what best fits your lifestyle.

    As Arumage said, the crossover SUV market is hot right now, and will probably remain hot for several more years to come, so the minivans might depreciate more through the years as people make a transition.
  • First, I think I should go into a little background of myself...

    My mother drives a 2004 Acura MDX Premium. Wonderful SUV to say the least. Why did we purchase it over a Honda Pilot? Pretty much because we came up with such a large list of positives:
    *higher quality leather
    *firmer, yet more supple ride (if that makes sense)
    *more power
    *longer warranty
    *better door panelings
    *thicker carpeting
    *quieter interior
    *more ambient lighting
    *standard wood trim that looks better than the optional one in the Pilot
    *Acura dealership experience
    *Acura brand name

    Now to some, those things may seem trivial, but to us (like many other Americans) those little things which make a luxury vehicle a luxury vehicle are deal breakers. That's not to say a Pilot is bad, but the MDX just comes off as a different flavor of coffee.

    As for myself, I drive a 2006 MAZDA3s Grand Touring 5-door automatic with navigation, Bose, moonroof, Sirius, bumper step plate, wheel locks, moonroof deflector --- pretty much fully-loaded. I cannot sum how much I love this car! The sporty handling, the abundance of features (HID headlamps, LED taillights, rainsensing windshield wipers, etc), the gorgeous looks, and the low price are just part of the plethora of praise I give my car.

    Now onty my current situation...

    My mother is looking for a new SUV. It must have a navigation system in it because after not getting one in her MDX and me getting one in my 3, she has come around after seeing how impressive my 3's nav is. Logically, we have looked at both Acura and Mazda first since we service our cars at David McDavid Acura and El Dorado Mazda.

    First, we looked at the RDX. You can tell where Acura took cost-cutting measures on the interior of the RDX because the door panelings (aside from the top-notch leather door inserts) are just average plastic. Everything else on the vehicle was great. The navigation system has a large 8" screen, restaurant reviews, and traffic rerouting. The carpet is quick thick, and the headliner is soft and padded. All in all, the RDX seems like an entry-level luxury SUV because it gets the job done well.

    Then, we looked at the CX-7 when I got my second oil change. The coolest feature was the advanced keyless entry, which the RDX does not have. However, the rest of the vehicle was kind of so-so, especially for only 3K less than an RDX with navigation. The leather was of the same above-average grain as the 6, the dashboard was made of hard plastic, the door panelings were hard plastic, the steering wheel did not telescope, the Bose CenterPoint system (while better than my 3's basic Bose) could not compare to the ELS 5.1 in the RDX, there was no Bluetooth, no restaurant reviews, no traffic rerouting, etc. Now for a mainstream brand, not having all those goodies is fine...but for a vehicle that's only 3K less than a luxury vehicle, that pricing scheme doesn't make sense. For us, the RDX won by a long shot.

    Like the RDX, the MDX includes the ELS 5.1 audio system with the same superb navigation system. It adds LED taillights, power tilt/telescoping wheel, even higher-quality leather, even thicker carpeting, auto-leveling headlamps, and more.

    After carefully reading up about the CX-9 online, we have put it right up there on our list. It's got Bluetooth, a navigation system (however, it's the same one as the CX-7's which cannot compare to Acura's, but it's still a good value nonetheless), ambient lighting, leather door panels, and a more powerful Bose audio system (though I'm not holding my breath as the Bose in my dad's 05 STS - the 15-speaker 5.1 - isn't all it's hyped up to be...just like my 3's), memory seats, HID headlamps with manual leveling control (which is fine by us), LED taillamps, and more. In the end, it will be about 4K less than a comparable MDX.

    So either we go for the sportier, more luxurious, more technologically-advanced SUV (MDX) or the more practical, cheaper, sleeker SUV (CX-9). Like they say, you get what you pay for... :)
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    The CX-9 should be a great alternative to the 2004 MDX, but it's probably not completely up to par with the new 2007 MDX. It's $8k cheaper though so that should definitely help, and it uses regular fuel instead of premium.

    I know it's probably not up to par name-wise, but the upcoming Hyundai Veracruz is a valid alternative too. It has a better power-to-weight ratio and will be available with all the same options (more if they bring all the same options the Koreans get). Hyundai is really stepping up the luxury quotient on this model. They even considered bringing it out under a new luxury brand they intend to create in the near future. (They are working on a RWD V8 sedan too.) It debuts in January at the Detroit auto show, but there are lots of pictures floating around already.

    List of features: (Translated from Korean, not sure if the US models will get all of this):

    300X Value

    17" Nophlange Alloy Wheels
    Class-leading stain-proof cloth seats (Tri-Coat Swade Material)
    Manual Air-Con
    MP3 Audio System
    Wheel arch/Side Garnish
    Signal Lamp installed Exterior Mirrors
    ECM Interior Mirror
    Rear Spoiler
    Aero-Blade Wipers
    LED Door-Courtesy Lamps
    Dual Front Airbags

    300X Deluxe

    18" Nophlange Alloy Wheels
    Deluxe Leather Seats
    Dual-Zone Auto Air-Con& AQS
    Premium Sound 8 Speakers with Subwoofer JBL
    Solar/Privacy Glass
    Active Headrests
    Rear Sonar Parking Assist
    2nd Row Heated Seats
    Centre Console with Coolbox
    Rain-Sensing Aero-Blade Wipers
    Safety Sunroof
    Conversation Mirror

    300VX Luxury

    Adaptive HID Headlights
    Headlamp Washer
    LED Rear Taillights
    Super-vision Cluster
    Driver's Power Seats
    Power Lumbar Support
    Auto Compass
    Luxury Door Scuff
    In-Dash 6-Disc Changer Audio

    300VX Premier

    IMS II
    Power Adjusting Pedals
    Power Front Passenger Seats
    ECM Exterior Mirrors
    VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control)
    Rear Heater/Air-Con
    Power Tailgate
    Safety Sunroof

    300VXL Supreme

    Black Monotone Interior Trim
    Maple Woodgrain
    Black Monotone Leather Seats
    Door Scuff Lamps
    Side/Curtain Airbags

    300VXL Premium

    Premium Leather Seats
    Best-In-Class Leather Quality
    Brown Two-Tone Seats
    Brown Door-Trim
    Black Monotone Interior Trim
    Speed-Sensitive Power Steering
    Power Tailgate
    Safety Sunroof
  • Looking for a crossover where the second row can be positioned up as close as possible behind the front seat (insert the baby carrier into a base that is always strapped in). That way, you can keep the car seat belted in on that seat but also don't have to tumble the seat to get into the third row. No room is needed between that seat and the back of the front seat as the baby isn't big enough to be in a convertible seat yet. I know the CX9 can tumble forward but will it allow you to slide it up on the track and leave it there? Thanks.
  • music287music287 Posts: 116
    OK, I'm biased because we've ordered a CX-9 (for delivery in January/early February) but I looked at the new MDX last week. First, the space for luggage behind the third row is minimal, like the Pacifica. Second, the radical styling we saw in the prototypes is mainly gone. Third, it's way more expensive. We were able to order the CX-9 at $1K over invoice, a price I'm happy to pay since the Acura dealer won't budge from msrp. Oh, and I also don't mind paying for RUG instead of premium. (I know it's only a coupla hundred dollars/year but still...)

    Still happy with our choice. I'll report in February. Our CX-9 is scheduled to be built today in Hiroshima!

  • nxs138nxs138 Posts: 481
    I don't think the RDX will be a hot seller simply because it's too expensive. The top of the line CX-7 with the tech package is $4k less, and overall the CX-7 is selling very well since it gives you the option to pay much less by going to a lower trim. The CX-7 also looks more car-like, which helps with buyers that don't want the traditional "boxy" SUV look. That's something to consider.

    I've taken a close look at the new MDX, but can't bring myself to pay that much as compared to the CX-9. The CX-9 has the same technology (i.e. bluetooth, touchscreen NAV, AWD, etc) for $8k less (taking the MDX with tech/ent package vs. Grand Touring CX-9 with NAV/ent). Interior quality of the CX-9 is supposedly very nice, so that might also be a close comparison to the MDX. Some might argue that the SH-AWD in the Acura is a superior system, but you would only notice at the track. So at this point the $8k difference is due to Acura's position in the marketplace, i.e. trying to compete against Audi/BMW, and not against Mazda of the new GM crossovers (and the Veracruz).
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    Yes, the CX-9's middle row slides up and stays. I believe it's adjustable by 6". The Saturn Outlook/GMC Acadia/Buick Enclave does this too, as well as the Hyundai Veracruz. It seems to be a feature available in all the brand new CUV's.
  • srangersranger Posts: 106
    I ruled out the MDX, RDX and CX7 and several other small to mid SUV/CUV because of their pathetic towing capacity...

    At least the CX9 can tow more than 2000lb...
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    According to Acura, the MDX can tow up to 5000lbs with the tow package. The CX-9 tows 3500lbs. Those differences don't justify the $8k price difference though.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Keep in mind, the Center Point surround sound feature on the 9 spkr Bose system in the CX-7 can only be activated with a CD playing. There is quite a difference. Much clearer then playing the radio.
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