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Honda offers LX, EX and SE grades
People should have the choice - do I want a bare bones CR-V or an upscale version with leather, signal mirrors, heated mirrors, head lamp washers etc.
So Honda has decided for me - that I can't afford it?
Well, they haven't decided for you, but they have reached the conclusion that it would not be very profitable to build a higher-end, more expensive model; likely after a lot of market research (things like that aren't decided in an hour). You'd likely be a minority of people willing to pay $30k+ for a 4-cylinder only SUV based on a Civic, with 5-passenger seating only. You have to remember, for that kind of money, you get a nicely equipped Pilot.
"A somewhat off-topic thought -- I've read that in the summer of 2007, the redesigned Mini-Cooper will offer the option of a twin turbo, four cylinder diesel. (plus a non-turbo and turbo version of the premium gas-powered four)"
I find the one with electric motors in the wheels even more interesting. I believe the turbos -diesel included since the recent addition of ULSD- will come out. If only bmw had their diesels here also -330d & 530d for example- then we'd see many more diesels now other than the E320, Touareg V10, and Gran Cherokee.
Back on topic now?
-Cj :P
My observations:
The new liftgate design solved my biggest concern with the exterior design, even with a full spare being replaced with a donut.
The "smiley face" front is not very appealing, but it's better than the pictures of the Euro version. I would just have to imagine that the vehicle was telling me to "have a nice day" whenever I got in to drive it.
The power to weight ratio and the 4wd system seem to be appropriate for this vehicle.
The cargo system is adequate for my purposes.
I didn't like the puckering of the leather seats in the picture on the Honda site, so I will opt for the EX with cloth seats, thus foregoing a heated tooshie.
The tilt and telescopic steering column are useful features for a man of my size.
I'd prefer a power driver's seat, but I'll check out the functioning of the manual one.
The safety features of six airbags, a front crumple zone, daytime running lights etc are outstanding.
My maintenance concerns from past problem areas of the CRV are as follows:
Has the location of the oil filter been moved, or other action taken by Honda designers, to preclude the possibility of oil leaking onto hot engine parts? It would be best if the "human error" component of this problem has been removed entirely from the equation.
Is the PTTR issue "ancient history"? Varmit wrote a marvelous treatise on this subject in a "read only" CRV forum. Did Honda make any changes to the 2006 or 2007 models to address this issue from their perspective?
Has the A/C compressor failure issue been addressed by Honda in the most recent model years?
This forum has many participants with outstanding technical expertise who are wlling to share their knowledge. They are appreciated by us unformed rabble. Have a good weekend. Ralph
The real world mileage differences between them are magnified the more time you spend driving in city traffic because it looks like the V6 city mileage estimate is further from reality than the 4 cylinder city mileage estimate.
I think Honda's made a good gamble. If you want cheap power you buy a RAV4. If you want handling, decent power, and a MUCH nicer interior you buy a CRV. If you want the nicer interior and more power you buy an RDX.
So Toyota wins at cheap power, Honda wins everywhere else.
http://hondanews.com/CatID2031
They are still hiding the pricing:
http://hondanews.com/media_storage/secured/DOC/2007_CR-V_Pricing.doc
Bob
... current Accord: yawn - an old Buick
... Civic sedan: too retarded, no comparison
... RDX: does not visually compare to others in its price range
... Ridgeline: Pontiac Aztek or whatever that abortion was
... New CRV: the Subaru B9 Tribeca buttraped by a Volvo
Honda has some decent concepts, but either doesn't put them on the assembly line or doesn't offer them stateside (like that badass Civic in England). Guess they know what they are doing though.
... Civic sedan: too retarded, no comparison
... RDX: does not visually compare to others in its price range
... Ridgeline: Pontiac Aztek or whatever that abortion was
... New CRV: the Subaru B9 Tribeca buttraped by a Volvo
You say current Accord: Old Buick... I fail to see where this looks like a Buick:
You say RDX does not visually compare to others in its price range. What others are you referring to? The only other luxury compact SUV/Crossovers I can think of are BMW X3 (a design disaster in my eyes) and; well, that's all.
You say Civic... no comparison; I beg to differ, remember both the Civic and this new Audi debuted at the same time, so neither copied another company:
You say the CRV was a Subaru(insert nasty verb here) by Volvo... What cues does the CR-V from the Subaru? The CR-V has a very broad front grill, where the Subaru is the opposite, a very small snout. And I'd assume that you are referincing Volvo's vertical taillight design when you mention it in this discussion; well, it's been around on the CR-V for ten years, I think you're gonna have to get past that; its here to stay.
The more conservative US Civic already looks wild enough compared to the super plain styling of the Corolla.
-Cj :P
Bob
When I look at the seats in the folded position, they do not seem to lay flat at all like it says in the description. Then I looked at some other picture, and it had the seats collapsed all the way up so all you could see was the carpet?
Can someone with experience tell me about this cargo area? I usually leave my seats in my Jeep folded down and it is a FLAT surface for the dogs to stand and stick their heads out the window.
Please help me understand the process of these seats. I need the area to be FLAT, not seats sticking up 4-6 inches up.
Thanks.
(yes, I am new)
the middle one (rdx?) is going to be the worst.
Not sure if this helps but the views on the Honda website
http://automobiles.honda.com/cr-v/index.aspx
seem to indicate that your dogs would be able to get their noses out the rear windows. Click on KEY FEATURES>SEATING CONFIGURATIONS. You'll need to look closely at the alignment of the seats folded up with the rear windows. Also see the pics in post #553 in this forum. Near the bottom of the photos is one looking in from the rear with rear seats folded up. It looks like there is plenty of room.
We have a dog also and that is a consideration for us.
But the back seats do fold down very flat with I think the bottom or backs of the rear seats rolled up against the rear of the front seats.
If you look at the photos on car and driver under multimedia and then photos, Photo" 082920061407585723 will show them lying very flat.
Personally, I would prefer it if the seats just folded flat in one step, without using up the floorwell space. That is one feature I really appreciate about my 05 Outback -- just fold the seatback forward with one button, and you're left with a totally flat load floor that runs the full length of the rear of the car. And, the rear footwells are still available to stash boots, bags, gear, etc. That has become my "go-to" spot for ski boots or grocery bags.
Thanks.
Thanks to you and others for the insight and help on the seating in the back. I can see it from the photos now, but need to make sure this is THE ONE when it comes on the lot. I will take my dogs with me to have them test drive the cargo space. hehe. I did that with the Mazda 3 and was glad I did, b/c it turned out to be too small and not enough headroom for one of my dogs. I didnt think he was that tall, it's just that the roof line was so low. Also, those seats in the Mazda 3 didnt fold all the way flat, which made them stand up taller.
Thanks again.
1- What is the pricing on the EX-L?
2- Does it come standard with a moonroof?
TIA.
Thanks for saying it a lot better than I could.
They haven't released the pricing yet.
2- Does it come standard with a moonroof?
I believe the EX and EX-L both come standard with the moonroof.
If you go to Honda News you will find documents telling the differences between trims and lots of other specifications and info and sometime in the near future the MSRP prices.
You intend to bring TWO DOGS along on a test drive?
I DO want to make sure they fit. They are part of my family. The Mazda guy let me do it.
"Due to the success of the competing Toyota RAV4, a V6 engine may also be offered for the North American market."
-Cj
Excellent idea to take the dogs to the showroom. "One experiment is worth more than a thousand opinions."
The new CRVs should be at dealers around 28 Sept.
The likelihood of seeing a diesel CRV in North America by 2006 is equivalent to finding Elvis Presley still alive being chauferred around in a stretch white Accord Limo in Clearwater, Florida.
Oh well!
I've fit two greyhounds in the back of a 1999 CR-V. But that's without crates.
If you're looking for an idea of how to seats fold, take a look at the current CR-V. The 2007 model uses essentially the same design. It results in a flat floor, but there's less depth than with some other designs.
No crates here.
do they have anything in store for us guys....decent room, good ground clearance, good fuel economy, inexpensive, practical? Pilot?....too big, heavy, pricy & uses too much gas. Element? pain in the [non-permissible content removed] rear "doors", 98lb weakling payload capacity, only seats 4. Maybe they'll bulk-up the HRV (He-RV?!) and bring it out here. Oh well, there's always the RAV4/Outlander/Santa Fe etc. etc.
(You'd think Honda would've learned the basic rules of autodom....you can sell a guy's car to chicks but you can't sell a chick's car to guys....just like you can sell a young man's car to and old man but you can't sell an old man's car to a young man.)
...and on top of all that, they made it ugly too!
do they have anything in store for us guys....decent room, good ground clearance, good fuel economy, inexpensive, practical?
Sounds perfect to me! Do I honestly need a sex-change in order to buy such a car :confuse:
If you want to flaunt your masculinity with a transport vehicle then buy a Hummer.
I think if you're looking for something both masculine and heavy duty, you have a dozen poser SUVs you can choose from. I don't see why Honda has to build exactly the same thing every other company is trying to offer.
It seems to me, this new CR-V is just as useful as the last generation. Buyers never complained about lack of utility despite all the spec racing on these and other forums. The most significant differences include...
1. Greater refinement. Buyers did complain about road noise.
2. More creature comforts and a wider range of packages. Many wanted the SE in the first years.
3. They apparently improved handling significantly. Although handling was never a problem with the 1st and 2nd genertion models, it never hurts to improve something.
4. They goofed up the nose on an otherwise attractive vehicle.
I suggest that instead of being concerned with what marketers have to say, you buy the vehicle that meets your needs.
Though it never was viewed as a macho SUV statement (despite the spare on the rear door), it has lost some of it's endearing practicalities in it's transformation to an even kinder, gentler crossover. (no fish tub, no picnic table, less ground clearance etc.)
That being said, some changes are in fact, welcome. The new interior is much improved, ride & handling as well, and it seems thay've paid attention to the road noise complaints.
It can't touch the RAV4 for it's combination of performance & economy and Mitsubishi's new Outlander should handle at least as well. And it falls well short if the Santa Fe's luxury/refinement/value equation. Add to that styling and the lack of a third row that doesn't cut it compared to all three of the above and I think the CR-V will be in tough.
Anyway, I guess the market will decide....just the fact that it's a Honda and there are many satisfied current CR-V owners out there will count for something.
Men in this segment buy XTerras, Wranglers, etc. Call 'em Sport/Brutes if you want.
But the unibody models were always considered "girly" by the 4x4 crowd. Heck, even the Liberty isn't manly enough for them.
Outlander is based on the Caliber platform, and it makes you wonder just how far they can stretch that. Plus the V6 isn't all that powerful or efficient.
Sante Fe will deliver value, sure, but it's grown much bigger. Tucson is smaller, but probably closer to the CR-V.
Seems to me like Honda just focused on the strengths and aimed for the middle - automatic only, no off roading, adequate power, not-too-big, not-too-small. Goldilocks' crossover.
-juice
Also read about a 4' wider turning radius? That's not good for parking lot maneuvers. But it's one of the few ways it went backwards in user-friendliness that I can see.
-juice
Read this article link from The TEMPLE of VTEC about new 2007 CR-V. Date of test on June 27, 2006 where located at Vancouver, BC in Canada.
[Page 1] Pose no more
[Page 2] Hardware
[Page 3] Exterior and Interior Impressions
[Page 4] On the Road, Conclusions
which happens to be the same audience that has been buying the most CR-V's of all: young moms
I said that.
the wonky door pulls
I also noted those.
Contrary to some early online rumors (where do these things get started?), the 2007 CR-V's cargo area has actually increased slightly
varmint should feel vindicated, it wasn't just him that believed those rumors.
-juice
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