2007 Honda CR-V

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  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    It needs some opening for cooling. But I do think they could have pulled that "upper grill" downward so that it stretched from hood to bumper. It would look more like the Pilot.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Yeah, I know that styling is subjective. I hear that all the time from Aztek and Tribeca fans. That hasn't stopped an unfavorable public reaction from hurting sales. Based on polls and the many postings we've seen, this CR-V is controversial, at best. And even controversial is enough to put a damper on sales.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That's an improvement, for sure. 5 minutes with Photochop and you put 20 Honda designers out of work. :D

    Actually, though, I think it would look better if the bumper went straight across, instead of the hood dipping down.

    Eh, that's nit-picking, the 'chop is a big improvement.

    -juice
  • heinrich44heinrich44 Member Posts: 6
    Thanks. Been watching too much american hot rod or something... I can see it needs some space for air flow - and maybe a blown hemi
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    This pic is too big, so please click here:

    http://www.cycloneinjapan.com/upload/files/46/07stream-002.jpg

    Check out the grille, when the bumper lines up with the upper half, it doesn't look half bad. They should have done this with the CR-V.

    Also, here's a rear pic:

    http://www.cycloneinjapan.com/upload/files/46/07stream-007.jpg

    The rear windows dips below the side ones for better visibility backing up. They could have done this since the spare tire was moved. The overall shape is just sharper, sportier.

    Thoughts?

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    will look better in person than in pictures.

    Bob
  • master1master1 Member Posts: 340
    I cannot stand Honda's apparent new windshield design. Why is it so big? The new Civic also has that stupid huge windshield.
    More heat enters the car this way, and it looks rediculous.
  • joecarnutjoecarnut Member Posts: 215
    How about aerodynamics and it gives the interior a more roomy feel?
  • heel2toeheel2toe Member Posts: 149
    The front of the new Civic is shaped thusly because of Euro pedestrian safety ratings.
  • kwhkwh Member Posts: 68
    SOLD, heinrich! That's all it would take. The rest of the car looks ok. I would trade for a new CR-V with your design or a bland, plain, normal front - but as I have posted before no one wants an ugly car. I will wait to see the car in person but the pictures on here make the new CRV look like it has been in a wreck. I blew up the picture of the green CRV and it looks like the bumpers actually overlap onto the headlights. That cannot be possible (can it?) so I want to see what they really look like later. Like varmint one person in a large group of people can look at an Aztek and say "Oh well, looks are subjective" when everybody else is saying OMG whay an ugly car. I really hope the front end does not look as bad as these pictures as I will have to start all over again - thought it would be real simple just to trade a 2004 for a 2007 - did not expect such a bizarre looking car from Honda.
  • mjsnd80mjsnd80 Member Posts: 48
    Some very high quality photos posted here. Thank you.

    I have a 2005 EX, and appreciate the gound clearance in Maine winters; so the lower ground clearance is my biggest concern with the new model.

    The 07 CRV looks fine. Even the front end is fine. If it has a longer wheelabse and even more seating room inside - that's all good too.

    The only problem I have with the front end is that they're keeping with the same garbage about dealer-added fog lights!! On most small SUVs, they're either standard or a low-cost option/package item. Honda Dealers charge some $400 to fill those round "blanks" on the front of your car.

    EX-L? Any chance on a Power Seat in that???
  • mjb56mjb56 Member Posts: 170
    Is there any discussion of Blue Tooth or a third row seat on the Pre-order fact sheet?
  • bostnwhalrbostnwhalr Member Posts: 128
    I'm thinking that the CR-V is starting to merge into the new Honda Stream given it's supposedly low ground clearance. Come to think of it, the original CR-V was derived from the Civic, which makes it a decendent of the Honda Civic Wagon 4wd model....
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I know someone mentioned the new CRV has less ground clearance. If so, the pictures sure don't show that. If it is reduced, it's not by much. From the images I've seen I'd guess the GC to be at least 7.5 inches.

    Bob
  • yysyysyysyys Member Posts: 51
    Minimum Ground Clearance is down to 5.12 inches vs. 8.1 inches in the 2006!
  • wheelz4wheelz4 Member Posts: 569
    from an Autoweek spot on Honda's plans for a turbo diesel engine (200 hp, 200 lbs-ft torque), where the CR-V would be one of the more likely recipients...not coming for 2-3 years though...
    Anyway, the comment by John Watts of American Honda was this:
    "Watts also said the Honda Division may need to add another SUV to its lineup."

    "We don't know what it will be yet," he says. "Maybe something between a minivan and a SUV. But we do need something between the CR-V and the Pilot."

    So, the rumours of the CR-V's apparent shrinkage appear to be true, if Honda thinks there is room in between the new CR-V and the Pilot for another vehicle....and with the 'minivan' reference, this 'new' vehicle would most likely have 6-7 seats, so the rumours of the CR-V remaining a 5 seat vehicle would also appear to be true. However, if this vehicle is not even in the planning stages yet, the Mazda5/7 seat Rav4/Outlander/Santa Fe/Kia Rondo will be racking up mucho sales until Honda finally gets a foot in this market quite a few years down the road.
    Sad......
  • carquerycarquery Member Posts: 35
    Has anyone heard anything as far as the mileage for the new CRV? I'm waiting for it to compare against the new RAV4. Many in that forum say that their 4-cyl RAV4s are getting mid-20s MPG which is pretty attractive for a vehicle of that size. If the CRV pulls off similar mileage, then it would be a good alternative. I'm pretty much crossing off the RDX, because the combination of the turbo and premium gas don't bode well for MPG. Any thoughts/rumors?
    Thanks!
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    That's gotta be wrong. 5.1" is less than my WRX (6.1" according to Edmunds), and the new CRV has a ton more ground clearance than the WRX.

    Maybe there's something hanging down that these images don't show, but I doubt it. 5.1" must be a typo. Let's wait for the "official" specs to be released before going too far with this.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That can't be write, or maybe that's just the FWD model or something. 5" is in the normal range for a car.

    -juice
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    The RDX is listed at 6.5" of clearance. Most likley because the SH-AWD diff is a fairly large unit for such a small vehicle.

    It's possible that the CR-V also has a large diff (VTM-4?). With smaller tires holding it up, the diff would ride lower.

    I doubt this scenario quite a bit, but it is technically possible.

    The rumors of low ground clearance, a small cargo space, and other details are many of the reasons why I've been so hard on this new CR-V. However, I'm starting to read rumors from credible sources which contradict what yysyys is posting.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Subaru raised the Forester and softened the suspension a little bit, so maybe Honda and Subaru are switching places. LOL

    The Forester would have to grow a bit, though.

    -juice
  • spindspind Member Posts: 5
    The pre-order fact sheet did not state anything about Blue Tooth or third row of seating. I was at the NYC auto Show this year and I spoke with Honda. They did inform me that the 07 CR-V was slatted for a third row of seating, but I have not heard anything else since.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    That's pretty much what I was writing earlier. If this new CR-V has traded cargo space for better handling (what the rumors were saying), then Honda has built a new Forester (or old RAV4).

    But now I'm hearing those rumors are not true. We'll see.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    The one big difference is the green house. The Forester has always had giant windows all around, good visibility, low beltline. It looks lower than it is because of that beltline.

    Subaru is on the side lines watching the RAV4 launch and now the CR-V, hopefully they'll nail the next generation.

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Subaru is on the side lines watching the RAV4 launch and now the CR-V, hopefully they'll nail the next generation.

    True, but they won't be able to make any major (reactive) changes at this point, as the design is pretty much locked in by now.

    Bob
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    There's a lot more than just the beltline making the Forester appear low to the ground.

    I'm with Bob on the issue of changes. In past years, Subaru has released the Forester fairly early in the calendar year. What are we expecting... spring of 2007? At this point, I expect all the basic details have been nailed down.

    If the original rumors are correct about the lack of cargo space and other details, Subaru would have to make very few changes. Stretch the back seat, bump up cargo volume by a few cubes (65-67), not make it ugly... that could be enough to topple this 2007 CR-V in this market.
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    I agree. 5.1" cannot be right. That's what I get with my TL, I think. Looking at the pics, I would guess at least 7.1".
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    Does anyone know what they've done with the parking brake lever? With the new console and shifter, I don't supppose they were able to use the same clever and ingenious design as in the 2gen CR-V?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, it should debut in May of '07 or so.

    CR-V pretty much has the stage to itself this fall, right? Any other major new intros this fall?

    Well, I guess the new Outlander, I still haven't seen any of those yet. Santa Fe, too.

    But Honda may have timed it right, the hype from the RAV4 should die down by then, the CX7's popularity also.

    Wait a sec, though, isn't the Edge due this fall?

    -juice
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    I doubt it. The RDX has a foot brake which is consistent with many other Honda Acura vehicles. I suspect there's little reason to change that.

    No brake... no full-size spare... no fish tub... no table... no character!!
  • drive62drive62 Member Posts: 637
    I don't supppose they were able to use the same clever and ingenious design as in the 2gen CR-V?

    This reminded me about another thing people complained about when the 2G debuted, the parking brake placement. Now it's "ingenious". LOL.
  • togadelictogadelic Member Posts: 21
    TOTALLY AGREE
  • togadelictogadelic Member Posts: 21
    the parking brake and the shifter where they are in the gen 2 crv is perfect

    get that crap out of the way so there is more room to spread out your legs and get comfy

    why waste all that area with a pile of plastic for a center console that takes up usefull room?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    It's unique, maybe even clever, but I don't think it's ingenious. People new to the vehicle often can't find it, so it's a bit of an ergonomic error if you ask me.

    -juice
  • yysyysyysyys Member Posts: 51
    Honda will be offering the new CRV in at least three different combinations. Two-wheel drive, four wheel drive and an upscale version with upgraded interior.
    The two-wheel drive should come in at around twenty two thousand and the upscale version will price in at around thirty thousand.
    Honda has always tried to capture the cost conscious consumer who wants value and reliability.
    With features such as grade logic, which senses the grade of incline and down shifts automatically for you, they certainly have made big strides.
    Honda is thinking of offering a hybrid version in order to compete against Toyota.
    One thing for sure whatever the final design and options for the 2007 Honda CRV you can be sure Honda will add a few unique options to set it apart from the competition.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    What's your source for that price info? $30 sounds high to me.

    -juice
  • drive62drive62 Member Posts: 637
    The '06 SE has an MSRP of $26K. You are saying Honda will introduce a redesigned model with one of the trim lines costing $4000 more than the current highest priced model? That would be very un Honda like. That would make the top of the line '07 CR-V more expensive than some models of the Pilot and Odyssey.

    Seems like Honda has listened to everyone and finally made this a non entry level vehicle. Oh well, there's always Hyundai.
  • yysyysyysyys Member Posts: 51
    http://www.cars.mu/?page_id=48
  • drive62drive62 Member Posts: 637
    I wasn't commenting on the ingeniousness of the design. I was pointing out another case of what some considered a liability for the (then) new '02 that now someone thinks is ingenious.

    I'm sure the same will be happen for the new model in terms of it's features. "Hate 'em", "hate 'em" "hate 'em"....when the new model is coming out ('12??) "I love 'em" ;) .
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    new 2007 CRV is going to blow the doors off the competition

    Really? With no V6, no 3rd row, no GPS, and the underbite it's going to blow the doors off the new RAV4?

    Laugh with me, everyone. :D

    Oh my, read about the "reliable" 2007 MDX, how would they know if it's not even out yet? Then they proceed to call it "small" and "an ideal hobby based racer". :confuse:

    Definitely a candidate for the automotive site Booby Prize.

    -juice
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    I'm with you on this one. Albeit it's still early, but from available info, I'm thinking the new CRV has trouble matching up with the RAV -- in terms of styling, price, luxury, power, performance, equipment (don't forget the RAV has Hill Descent and Hill Start Assist too). Honda and Toyota quality and reliability are probably even. The only advantage the CRV has may be Honda's "safety for everyone" theme, where traction and stability control and all the airbags are standard across the board.
  • drive62drive62 Member Posts: 637
    It would have been nice if the article spelled the vehicle's name correct.
  • drive62drive62 Member Posts: 637
    ...from available info, I'm thinking the new CRV has trouble matching up with the RAV -- in terms of styling, price, luxury, power, performance, equipment (don't forget the RAV has Hill Descent and Hill Start Assist too).

    I assume "available information" includes Toyota's posted prices for the RAV4. If so, I think you will be wrong on the price aspect. The base RAV4 with 2WD has an MSRP of $20905, and that's before you add options to bring it in line with a current CR-V LX (pricing Toyota's is like pricing a domestic...options, options and more options). Even with the supposed $30k model I think there will be a CR-V base model lower in price than the RAV4. I could be wrong.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Toyota does a-la-carte so prices can be lower or higher, it all depends upon equipment. Most seem to be $22-28k, though, that's the sweet spot for the segment.

    -juice
  • drive62drive62 Member Posts: 637
    Forget sweet spot, $28k for a small SUV would leave a sour taste in my mouth.

    Currently a top of the line CR-V can be had for under $23k. Other models are under $20k. That's a far cry from $28k.
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    "...$28k for a small SUV would leave a sour taste in my mouth."

    I wouldn't say that's true just because it's small. You have to look at what else it offers.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That's where the RAV4 is selling and in much, much higher volumes than last year.

    A low price by itself does not sell an SUV, look at the outgoing RAV4. You could get those in the teens, that didn't help it.

    -juice
  • ew3074ew3074 Member Posts: 20
    I do think that Toyota's cars are more reliable than Honda's while Honda uses better interior material than Toyota's. In fact, consumer report scored the toyota highest in terms of reliablity.
  • suvtimesuvtime Member Posts: 58
    All this talk about Honda missing the boat by not offering 3rd row seating on the the upcoming CR-V makes me laugh. Have you seen the 3rd row in the RAV4? Its useless. Even the bigger Highlander took a few slams when Toyota added a third row to it a few years ago. It was still too small. I own a Pilot and think that its about as small of a vehicle that you could buy and get a useful 3rd row. That being said, even the Pilots 3rd row is only OK for kids or people I don't like.

    I'm pleased that Honda resisted the idea of a 3rd row in a vehicle of this size.
  • ew3074ew3074 Member Posts: 20
    but with 3rd row seats is better than without 3rd row seats. At least you can choose if you wanna use it or not..but in CRV, you have no choice
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