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juice = Subaru and GM = Subaru, so it makes sense.
But how does a blue Chevy = a beige Honda?
The current model has had an Ivory interior for several years. With proper attention it doesn't get any dirtier than any other color.
The connection to Subaru is that GM used the WRX platform to underpin the Borrego concept car, which was a 2 seat pickup with a turbo boxer 4 engine. It had a lot of neat ideas, but Chevy could not build it for under $20k so it remained a concept.
Now that GM sold it's shares (8.7% of FHI is now owned by Toyota) the Borrego is just a curiosity and a trivia question. :shades:
-juice
No offense to the platform, but it should be. Best to leave that sort of thing to Manx.
WRX was probably too small a platform anyway.
Isn't BBorego also the name of a Toy car manufacturer?
-juice
You lose the flip-up glass, though, for quick/small items.
3 to 1, so it's better.
-juice
I never whacked my head on the swing gate of my old CR-V. I am tall enough to have clobbered myself with the lift gate of my MDX. My brother got a nasty little gash once helping me unload baby gear.
With the CR-V, I could open the rear glass and put a leash on my greyhounds before I opened the full gate. With the MDX, I have to climb in the back seat, get the hounds facing forward, attach the leashes, walk around back, open the gate, and grab for the leashes before they see a squirrel and hit 40 mph going after it.
A swing gate also doesn't interfere with long items (skis, lumber, etc.) loaded on the roof rack. A lift gate can.
There are pros and cons to each design, but how you use the vehicle will make the most difference.
From a purely aesthetic perspective, I think the relocation of the spare from the tailgate to inside the cargo area is a very significant, and long-desired, change. That alone makes the new CR-V look classier and more upscale.
I think Toyota's inability to, or decision not to, make the same move is a major detriment to the overall look of the RAV4. Obviously merely my opinion, as it does not appear to be affecting sales.
Was the cargo space affected by the change in the spare locatioN?
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Can't tell. They haven't released official specs. And, quite frankly, if the new specs are lower, there're no way to know if moving the spare is responsible.
That said, relocating the spare has resulted in us getting a donut instead of a real tire. Another good reason for the swing gate.
link
You do have to duck a bit....
As I've trudged through ski resort parking lots, I've counted many vans and SUVs with vertical gashes on the rear glass. Those come from someone opening the liftgate and having it come into contact with the sharp edges of a ski. It's not exactly a rare event.
Actually, the thing that made me think of it was the warning in the assembly instructions for a new ski rack I just purchased.
I guess I should put it this way... You cannot open a liftgate while items long enough to hang over the back are in place.
The two vans I've owned have always let me open the hatch about 90 degrees even with canoes overhanging the back or 10 foot oars on top. Even my Outback isn't too bad that way. I have wished for an opening window many times on the hatch though.
Maybe some pics will help (it's a bit hard to find photos of the CR-V with the rear door open).
I'll disagree as well. The (6) 2x10x16's on my Passat wagon on a Yakima rack were in the way of the hatch when I discovered that my bungees were inside.
The email invites you to list your CRaVings....was a pre-selected list like chocolate, etc. Too bad, as I was all set to list "occasional 3rd row seating", "excellent fuel economy combined with respectable performance" and "attractive styling" as some of my cravings for the new CR-V!
Subaru went to a donut for '06 for no particular reason (cost cutting?). A full-size spare still fits, but you'd have to buy it yourself. I did this for my wife's Legacy. At the very least if you get a flat, the full-size flat tire will fit in there.
In the new CR-V, you'll have a dirty flat next to all your cargo. Maybe it's time for run-flats in this segment, but even those are epensive to replace.
Skis belong on the roof! That's what the roof rack is for. Inside the snow/ice melt and you end up with a damp interior.
Perhaps I'd feel differently if my skis had cost me $1000+.
-juice
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A couple pair of skis, including bindings --- > $1K easy.
My old BMW 325xiT wagon have had a full size spare inside. Did not take up any extra space. It was helpful when I scratched one rim.
Full size spare is nice just for the fact that you get a spare rim. That, and an extra tire. And no problems driving for a long time after a flat.
Bob
Cheap bastards.
This is not good. The reclining feature was very good for installing car seats... Makes it much easier to find a good position for my daughter when she wants to sleep or wants to stay awake and look around...
In the first generation CR-V, you could make a bed out of the seats. The second gen didn't tilt quite far enough. IT made something more like a lounge chair. You can see what I'm talking about with the pic below.
http://us.tnpv.net/pv/2002/08/19/HON2002081941941_pv.jpg
Everything we've been reading from that particular member has matched up with the RDX. And looking at the RDX's back seat, I can tell that it does not recline. The place where it latches to the "wall" of the vehicle prevents it.
http://us.tnpv.net/pv/2006/04/12/HON2006041230805_pv.jpg
So, yeah, there's a very good chance the CR-V loses that feature, as well.
The more I look at this new CR-V, the less I like it.
"By staying true to its principles, the Japanese automaker is making buckets of money in a tough market, says Fortune's Alex Taylor."
The world catches up to Honda (Forbes)
Bob
Maybe I'll comment about my Ford Motor Company/General Motors rant over there for a new audience. :P
Since you have "seen" a vehicle that is not even out yet and stated your highly negative opinions you will be moving on to another vehicle to post about, right??
I know they said the CRV will shrink, but if the RDX is any indication of the CR-V's size I am now upbeat about it.
Actually the room behind the rear seats "looks" similar to other mid-size SUVs. And when the seats are folded there is definitely plenty of room. They do something different with the rear seatbacks when you fold down the seats. The seat backs lie sort of vertical against the front seatbacks so the rear seat bottoms lie flat.
Also definitely wider and I like that as I'm a little wide myself.
I didn't attempt to drive it as that really wouldn't be a legitimate comparison.
I hope the CR-V gets better mpg than the RAV4 as that would seal the deal for me..
Assuming that is true, the vehicle has lost a bit of rear leg room. Though going from great to merely good isn't a bad thing. Most of the interior volume increase is going to be in width. The track of the vehicle is almost 2" wider. In short, most passengers should be content.
However, there's a significant loss in cargo space. While the space between the wheel wells has increased, the overall volume and utility of the cargo area has been diminished. The outboard rear seat bolsters do not fold with the rest of the seat. So they stay in the way of loading cargo onto the seat back. The roof line is also significantly lower.
And that doesn't make sense. Why would Honda give up 50K units sales per year? That is substantial addition to Honda's overall sales numbers.